Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
The dream state is cognition deprived of kinesthetic and visual sensory inputs -- inputs which are imputed via confabulation. Other sensory inputs are still available and that is why you will frequently wake up to a sound which you were incorporating into your dream in some way. The urge to urinate is, like the sound that wakes you, sensory input that is available to your dreams. Dream interpretation like that which we read from H Veeder is, shall we say, exaggerated. On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:34 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: from http://dreammoods.com/cgibin/dreamdictionarysearch.pl?method=exactheader=dreamsymbolsearch=urination *Urination * To see urine in your dream represents the feelings you have rejected. Alternatively, the dream may be a pun on your pissy attitude. To dream that you are urinating symbolizes a cleansing and a release of negative or repressed emotions. Depending on your dream context, urination is symbolic of having or lacking basic control of your life. You are literally pissed off and not expressing yourself in a positive or constructive manner. To dream that you are urinating in public symbolizes a lack of privacy in some personal matter. Alternatively, the dream means that you are trying to establish your boundary and mark your territory. To dream that someone is urinating on you means that you are feeling the emotional burden of this person. They are dumping all their feelings on you. Alternatively, the dream symbolizes your lacking sense of self-worth. If you dream that you accidentally urinated on yourself or wet your pants, then it implies that you are on the verge of an emotional outburst. You are desperate to release all the feelings that you have kept bottled up inside of you. harry On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: A recent news item: http://time.com/66459/portland-reservoir-pee/ Portland Dumps 38 Million Gallons of Water After Man Pees in Reservoir April 17, 2014 The city plans to dump 38 million gallons of water after authorities say a 19-year-old urinated in a large, uncovered reservoir during an early morning jaunt with two other friends, even though the contamination likely poses little risk . . . Little risk is incorrect. This poses absolutely no risk. Birds and other animals defecate into reservoirs at a far higher rate than this. This is an example of the kind of unscientific thinking that has dogged society in recent years. I say it is OFF TOPIC in the title, but it is actually somewhat on topic. Some of the resistance to cold fusion comes from this kind of anti-science attitude. Here is a comment about this I wrote on Slate: This is an example of unscientific, irrational thinking. This is same kind of nonsense that causes people to doubt the efficacy of vaccinations. The city of Portland should resist doing this because it is not scientific and there is absolutely no technical or medical justification for it. Officials who understand science should not give in to mass hysteria based on ignorance. That is a dangerous thing to do. In this case it merely wastes water, energy and money. In other cases it may endanger the public. Irrational fears cause decision makers to put far too much emphasis on some preventive measures, which means they do not have the resources to deal with other measures that would do more good. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 11:57 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The dream state is cognition deprived of kinesthetic and visual sensory inputs -- inputs which are imputed via confabulation. Other sensory inputs are still available and that is why you will frequently wake up to a sound which you were incorporating into your dream in some way. The urge to urinate is, like the sound that wakes you, sensory input that is available to your dreams. Dream interpretation like that which we read from H Veeder is, shall we say, exaggerated. True, but the act of urinating into a communal reservoir as well as the reaction could both have symbolic overtones similar to those found in dream interpretation. Harry On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:34 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: from http://dreammoods.com/cgibin/dreamdictionarysearch.pl?method=exactheader=dreamsymbolsearch=urination *Urination * To see urine in your dream represents the feelings you have rejected. Alternatively, the dream may be a pun on your pissy attitude. To dream that you are urinating symbolizes a cleansing and a release of negative or repressed emotions. Depending on your dream context, urination is symbolic of having or lacking basic control of your life. You are literally pissed off and not expressing yourself in a positive or constructive manner. To dream that you are urinating in public symbolizes a lack of privacy in some personal matter. Alternatively, the dream means that you are trying to establish your boundary and mark your territory. To dream that someone is urinating on you means that you are feeling the emotional burden of this person. They are dumping all their feelings on you. Alternatively, the dream symbolizes your lacking sense of self-worth. If you dream that you accidentally urinated on yourself or wet your pants, then it implies that you are on the verge of an emotional outburst. You are desperate to release all the feelings that you have kept bottled up inside of you. harry On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: A recent news item: http://time.com/66459/portland-reservoir-pee/ Portland Dumps 38 Million Gallons of Water After Man Pees in Reservoir April 17, 2014 The city plans to dump 38 million gallons of water after authorities say a 19-year-old urinated in a large, uncovered reservoir during an early morning jaunt with two other friends, even though the contamination likely poses little risk . . . Little risk is incorrect. This poses absolutely no risk. Birds and other animals defecate into reservoirs at a far higher rate than this. This is an example of the kind of unscientific thinking that has dogged society in recent years. I say it is OFF TOPIC in the title, but it is actually somewhat on topic. Some of the resistance to cold fusion comes from this kind of anti-science attitude. Here is a comment about this I wrote on Slate: This is an example of unscientific, irrational thinking. This is same kind of nonsense that causes people to doubt the efficacy of vaccinations. The city of Portland should resist doing this because it is not scientific and there is absolutely no technical or medical justification for it. Officials who understand science should not give in to mass hysteria based on ignorance. That is a dangerous thing to do. In this case it merely wastes water, energy and money. In other cases it may endanger the public. Irrational fears cause decision makers to put far too much emphasis on some preventive measures, which means they do not have the resources to deal with other measures that would do more good. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/04/draining-reservoir-after-urination-incident-shows-tenuous-grasp-of-science/ In an interviewhttp://www.vocativ.com/tech/internet/portlands-teen-urinator-speaks-whiz-seen-round-world/with Vocativ, the teenager in question, Dallas Swonger, denied urinating in the reservoir at all, stating he actually hit a wall instead. I leaned up against the wall and pissed on it, Swonger said. Swonger also contested the cleanliness of the reservoir prior to his actions: I’ve seen dead birds in there. During the summer time I’ve see hella dead animals in there, Swonger told Vocativ. In 2011, Shaff told the *Mercury* that the reservoir is not shut down for nature's transgressions. If we did that, we'd be shutting it off all the time. We fish out animals or things that have blown in all the time, Shaff said. The reservoir will reportedly cost $35,000 to clean and had just had one of its twice-yearly cleanings three weeks ago. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: A recent news item: http://time.com/66459/portland-reservoir-pee/ Portland Dumps 38 Million Gallons of Water After Man Pees in Reservoir April 17, 2014 The city plans to dump 38 million gallons of water after authorities say a 19-year-old urinated in a large, uncovered reservoir during an early morning jaunt with two other friends, even though the contamination likely poses little risk . . . Little risk is incorrect. This poses absolutely no risk. Birds and other animals defecate into reservoirs at a far higher rate than this. This is an example of the kind of unscientific thinking that has dogged society in recent years. I say it is OFF TOPIC in the title, but it is actually somewhat on topic. Some of the resistance to cold fusion comes from this kind of anti-science attitude. Here is a comment about this I wrote on Slate: This is an example of unscientific, irrational thinking. This is same kind of nonsense that causes people to doubt the efficacy of vaccinations. The city of Portland should resist doing this because it is not scientific and there is absolutely no technical or medical justification for it. Officials who understand science should not give in to mass hysteria based on ignorance. That is a dangerous thing to do. In this case it merely wastes water, energy and money. In other cases it may endanger the public. Irrational fears cause decision makers to put far too much emphasis on some preventive measures, which means they do not have the resources to deal with other measures that would do more good. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
Any similarity with Fukushima leaks is... not to be discussed, to avoid flame war. we should think in banana, or similar concepts, like in Eyjafjoll, in flight time . what shock me today is that the corporations who have the data surreder to the scaremongerers, and either shut up, or collaborate with those manipulators.. to save their image or even to make money... the collaboration of the victims of scaremongering with the scaremongerer is a tragedy of evidence based science. Not a surprise that cold fusion and it's undeniable and never seriously challenged evidence are ignored. Evidences have not been an argument in science since 50 years. 2014-04-19 4:02 GMT+02:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: So, it was in the part that is just a reservoir, that is before processing and distribuition? Heh? Yes. A large outdoor pond. That kind of concern is so odd. It is symptomatic of modern ignorance. People nowadays in the U.S. seem to know nothing about nature, or bacteria, or the concept of risk factor, or (in this case) the proportional difference between a ~50 ml of urine and 38 million gallons of water. Here is an example of modern ignorance. At a county fair many years ago a farmer showed a little boy how to milk a cow. The little boy was alarmed and ran away. Shortly after that, the boy came back with his parents who were outraged at the farmer. They said he was telling the boy disgusting stories about where milk came from. It took the farmer a while to calm them down and show them it is true, and milk really does come from cow udders. I read that in a newspaper. It could be apocryphal. Even if it is, I have seen enough real incidents like this to know that people are as ignorant as that, and as far removed from the facts of life. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
Once I thought that science was a beautiful and honest endeavor. The principles that it embraces appear wondrous when viewed from an idealistic point of view. Perhaps that ideal is still accurate when one observes the behavior of individual inventors or small groups that operate without the impediments of the establishment. Unfortunately, the expenses associated with modern cutting edge science research are too massive to be undertaken by any one individual and must therefore be controlled by a concentrated few. We have failed in selection of those with the purse strings and perhaps in the entire concept of control. Often those making the decisions as to where money should be spent are not capable of performing this task in a manner that they should. Cold fusion research is a prime example of how sadly misdirected these people can become. The media seems to reinforce the ignorant decisions that guide most major research. I guess you can not blame them since their limited knowledge of the important fields of study forces them to access those in charge of the current scientific thought when they write articles or generate critics. An individual research scientist does not have a chance when offering resistance to this type of overwhelming noise. And the pseudo skeptics add additional retardation to honest discovery by accusing anyone that does work not accepted by the mainstream establishment as being frauds. It is a wonder than any truly new idea ever penetrates the gauntlet within a reasonable time period. Would we even enjoy the modern world to any extent were it not for individuals and small independent teams such as the Wright Brothers? I hope that one day that sort of genuine creative thinking will find the freedom that it deserves. I doubt that this will occur within my lifetime. Dave -Original Message- From: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com To: Vortex List vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Apr 19, 2014 4:20 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason Any similarity with Fukushima leaks is... not to be discussed, to avoid flame war. we should think in banana, or similar concepts, like in Eyjafjoll, in flight time . what shock me today is that the corporations who have the data surreder to the scaremongerers, and either shut up, or collaborate with those manipulators.. to save their image or even to make money... the collaboration of the victims of scaremongering with the scaremongerer is a tragedy of evidence based science. Not a surprise that cold fusion and it's undeniable and never seriously challenged evidence are ignored. Evidences have not been an argument in science since 50 years. 2014-04-19 4:02 GMT+02:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: So, it was in the part that is just a reservoir, that is before processing and distribuition? Heh? Yes. A large outdoor pond. That kind of concern is so odd. It is symptomatic of modern ignorance. People nowadays in the U.S. seem to know nothing about nature, or bacteria, or the concept of risk factor, or (in this case) the proportional difference between a ~50 ml of urine and 38 million gallons of water. Here is an example of modern ignorance. At a county fair many years ago a farmer showed a little boy how to milk a cow. The little boy was alarmed and ran away. Shortly after that, the boy came back with his parents who were outraged at the farmer. They said he was telling the boy disgusting stories about where milk came from. It took the farmer a while to calm them down and show them it is true, and milk really does come from cow udders. I read that in a newspaper. It could be apocryphal. Even if it is, I have seen enough real incidents like this to know that people are as ignorant as that, and as far removed from the facts of life. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
Yes--the control in ideas is worse than it was in the time of Galileo. However, he was at the front end of a renaissance. Bob - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason Once I thought that science was a beautiful and honest endeavor. The principles that it embraces appear wondrous when viewed from an idealistic point of view. Perhaps that ideal is still accurate when one observes the behavior of individual inventors or small groups that operate without the impediments of the establishment. Unfortunately, the expenses associated with modern cutting edge science research are too massive to be undertaken by any one individual and must therefore be controlled by a concentrated few. We have failed in selection of those with the purse strings and perhaps in the entire concept of control. Often those making the decisions as to where money should be spent are not capable of performing this task in a manner that they should. Cold fusion research is a prime example of how sadly misdirected these people can become. The media seems to reinforce the ignorant decisions that guide most major research. I guess you can not blame them since their limited knowledge of the important fields of study forces them to access those in charge of the current scientific thought when they write articles or generate critics. An individual research scientist does not have a chance when offering resistance to this type of overwhelming noise. And the pseudo skeptics add additional retardation to honest discovery by accusing anyone that does work not accepted by the mainstream establishment as being frauds. It is a wonder than any truly new idea ever penetrates the gauntlet within a reasonable time period. Would we even enjoy the modern world to any extent were it not for individuals and small independent teams such as the Wright Brothers? I hope that one day that sort of genuine creative thinking will find the freedom that it deserves. I doubt that this will occur within my lifetime. Dave -Original Message- From: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com To: Vortex List vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Apr 19, 2014 4:20 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason Any similarity with Fukushima leaks is... not to be discussed, to avoid flame war. we should think in banana, or similar concepts, like in Eyjafjoll, in flight time . what shock me today is that the corporations who have the data surreder to the scaremongerers, and either shut up, or collaborate with those manipulators.. to save their image or even to make money... the collaboration of the victims of scaremongering with the scaremongerer is a tragedy of evidence based science. Not a surprise that cold fusion and it's undeniable and never seriously challenged evidence are ignored. Evidences have not been an argument in science since 50 years. 2014-04-19 4:02 GMT+02:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: So, it was in the part that is just a reservoir, that is before processing and distribuition? Heh? Yes. A large outdoor pond. That kind of concern is so odd. It is symptomatic of modern ignorance. People nowadays in the U.S. seem to know nothing about nature, or bacteria, or the concept of risk factor, or (in this case) the proportional difference between a ~50 ml of urine and 38 million gallons of water. Here is an example of modern ignorance. At a county fair many years ago a farmer showed a little boy how to milk a cow. The little boy was alarmed and ran away. Shortly after that, the boy came back with his parents who were outraged at the farmer. They said he was telling the boy disgusting stories about where milk came from. It took the farmer a while to calm them down and show them it is true, and milk really does come from cow udders. I read that in a newspaper. It could be apocryphal. Even if it is, I have seen enough real incidents like this to know that people are as ignorant as that, and as far removed from the facts of life. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
Terry sez: Urine from the bladder is normally sterile of bacteria except in the case of urinary tract infection. Also, under extreme conditions where there is no available water supply people have resorted to drinking their own urine. As a last resort they might not have survived if they had not. I believe there are certain religious rituals that require the drinking of one's own urine. It's kind of like participating in a Klingon tea ceremony. For a human, it's an honor to be asked to participate in a Klingon test-of-courage ritual of drinking a mildly poisonous brew. It is however highly advisable that humans take an antidote before commencing. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_tea_ceremony Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com
RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
A more extended version of the Klingon tea ceremony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcoibx3uwTU Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com
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We use it in Alaska to make the grass grow and to supplement the snowshoe hare's diet when they are around --they like urea--or potentially the salt. I know they love plywood made with urea based glue. They chew it to no end. Bob - Original Message - From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:12 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason Terry sez: Urine from the bladder is normally sterile of bacteria except in the case of urinary tract infection. Also, under extreme conditions where there is no available water supply people have resorted to drinking their own urine. As a last resort they might not have survived if they had not. I believe there are certain religious rituals that require the drinking of one's own urine. It's kind of like participating in a Klingon tea ceremony. For a human, it's an honor to be asked to participate in a Klingon test-of-courage ritual of drinking a mildly poisonous brew. It is however highly advisable that humans take an antidote before commencing. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Klingon_tea_ceremony Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
from http://dreammoods.com/cgibin/dreamdictionarysearch.pl?method=exactheader=dreamsymbolsearch=urination *Urination * To see urine in your dream represents the feelings you have rejected. Alternatively, the dream may be a pun on your pissy attitude. To dream that you are urinating symbolizes a cleansing and a release of negative or repressed emotions. Depending on your dream context, urination is symbolic of having or lacking basic control of your life. You are literally pissed off and not expressing yourself in a positive or constructive manner. To dream that you are urinating in public symbolizes a lack of privacy in some personal matter. Alternatively, the dream means that you are trying to establish your boundary and mark your territory. To dream that someone is urinating on you means that you are feeling the emotional burden of this person. They are dumping all their feelings on you. Alternatively, the dream symbolizes your lacking sense of self-worth. If you dream that you accidentally urinated on yourself or wet your pants, then it implies that you are on the verge of an emotional outburst. You are desperate to release all the feelings that you have kept bottled up inside of you. harry On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: A recent news item: http://time.com/66459/portland-reservoir-pee/ Portland Dumps 38 Million Gallons of Water After Man Pees in Reservoir April 17, 2014 The city plans to dump 38 million gallons of water after authorities say a 19-year-old urinated in a large, uncovered reservoir during an early morning jaunt with two other friends, even though the contamination likely poses little risk . . . Little risk is incorrect. This poses absolutely no risk. Birds and other animals defecate into reservoirs at a far higher rate than this. This is an example of the kind of unscientific thinking that has dogged society in recent years. I say it is OFF TOPIC in the title, but it is actually somewhat on topic. Some of the resistance to cold fusion comes from this kind of anti-science attitude. Here is a comment about this I wrote on Slate: This is an example of unscientific, irrational thinking. This is same kind of nonsense that causes people to doubt the efficacy of vaccinations. The city of Portland should resist doing this because it is not scientific and there is absolutely no technical or medical justification for it. Officials who understand science should not give in to mass hysteria based on ignorance. That is a dangerous thing to do. In this case it merely wastes water, energy and money. In other cases it may endanger the public. Irrational fears cause decision makers to put far too much emphasis on some preventive measures, which means they do not have the resources to deal with other measures that would do more good. - Jed
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On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:34 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: If you dream that you accidentally urinated on yourself or wet your pants, then it implies that you are on the verge of an emotional outburst. And, from my experience blush, you have pissed your pants in your sleep.
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
Was it in what part of the process cleaning of the reservoir? In my city's it seems the last stage is covered. 2014-04-18 19:33 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: A recent news item: http://time.com/66459/portland-reservoir-pee/ Portland Dumps 38 Million Gallons of Water After Man Pees in Reservoir April 17, 2014 The city plans to dump 38 million gallons of water after authorities say a 19-year-old urinated in a large, uncovered reservoir during an early morning jaunt with two other friends, even though the contamination likely poses little risk . . . Little risk is incorrect. This poses absolutely no risk. Birds and other animals defecate into reservoirs at a far higher rate than this. This is an example of the kind of unscientific thinking that has dogged society in recent years. I say it is OFF TOPIC in the title, but it is actually somewhat on topic. Some of the resistance to cold fusion comes from this kind of anti-science attitude. Here is a comment about this I wrote on Slate: This is an example of unscientific, irrational thinking. This is same kind of nonsense that causes people to doubt the efficacy of vaccinations. The city of Portland should resist doing this because it is not scientific and there is absolutely no technical or medical justification for it. Officials who understand science should not give in to mass hysteria based on ignorance. That is a dangerous thing to do. In this case it merely wastes water, energy and money. In other cases it may endanger the public. Irrational fears cause decision makers to put far too much emphasis on some preventive measures, which means they do not have the resources to deal with other measures that would do more good. - Jed -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
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Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Was it in what part of the process cleaning of the reservoir? I do not think so. If they were scheduled to clean the reservoir soon, I guess it would be okay. They do have to dump out the water and dredge reservoirs from time to time. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
So, it was in the part that is just a reservoir, that is before processing and distribuition? Heh? That kind of concern is so odd. 2014-04-18 21:12 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Was it in what part of the process cleaning of the reservoir? I do not think so. If they were scheduled to clean the reservoir soon, I guess it would be okay. They do have to dump out the water and dredge reservoirs from time to time. - Jed -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Portland wastes millions of gallons of water for no reason
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: So, it was in the part that is just a reservoir, that is before processing and distribuition? Heh? Yes. A large outdoor pond. That kind of concern is so odd. It is symptomatic of modern ignorance. People nowadays in the U.S. seem to know nothing about nature, or bacteria, or the concept of risk factor, or (in this case) the proportional difference between a ~50 ml of urine and 38 million gallons of water. Here is an example of modern ignorance. At a county fair many years ago a farmer showed a little boy how to milk a cow. The little boy was alarmed and ran away. Shortly after that, the boy came back with his parents who were outraged at the farmer. They said he was telling the boy disgusting stories about where milk came from. It took the farmer a while to calm them down and show them it is true, and milk really does come from cow udders. I read that in a newspaper. It could be apocryphal. Even if it is, I have seen enough real incidents like this to know that people are as ignorant as that, and as far removed from the facts of life. - Jed
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On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: It is symptomatic of modern ignorance. People nowadays in the U.S. seem to know nothing about nature, or bacteria, or the concept of risk factor, or (in this case) the proportional difference between a ~50 ml of urine and 38 million gallons of water. Urine from the bladder is normally sterile of bacteria except in the case of urinary tract infection. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine
