Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!
In reply to francis 's message of Tue, 3 May 2011 06:09:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] Scott and I have collaborated and communicated at length regarding a Casimir theory based on relativistic contraction of the longer vacuum wavelengths which still appear full length to an observer inside the cavity instead of the present theory where the longerwavelengths are simply upshifted to higher frequency inside the cavity. As I understand it, they are not normally upshifted. They are excluded altogether, because they are too long to fit in the cavity. It's precisely because they are excluded that they press on the outside, but not on the inside walls of the cavity, hence producing a pressure that pushes the walls together. Only the wavelengths greater than the cavity dimensions are responsible for this, and since these represent but a minute fraction of the total, the force is very small, until the walls get very close together. That's because as they approach one another, the excluded wavelengths get shorter and shorter, representing an ever increasing amount of vacuum energy. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!
Robin, I had the same original displacement concept until recently and I think it is roughly equivalent to the up shifted term Scott and Thomas introduced me to. The issue with the displacement concept is it carries with it an image of a vacant portion of space where the displaced wavelength used to reside. While my relativistic theory doesn't exactly match either concept the up shifted concept Thomas Prevenslik first introduced me to comes from a thermal dynamic perspective of Casimir effect - I used to consider this the other camp for Casimir theory vs. the displacement camp that I was more comfortable with - Thomas comes at this from a perspective of thermal dynamics and will argue the plates are not pushed together and that ether doesn't need to exist to explain the effect, he explains the effect as an imbalance created by up shifting causing the plates to self attract. Although my relativistic concept now represents a new 3rd option/camp I chose to refer to the up shifting version as the alternative because it already deals with what I consider a misconception of there being a vacancy - the energy summation is still reduced because energy content reduces with wavelength until some cutoff frequency beyond which it is meaningless to integrate, therefore an up shifted spectrum will also sum to a lower energy total. For a while I just went with the idea that the vacancy got filled in with shorter wavelengths but the up shifted concept already handles that issue plus it is an easier transition to the relativistic concept because it already has the same remote perspective of faster wavelengths inside the cavity... the only thing it lacked was my position that the wavelengths would appear unchanged to a local observer in the cavity... which as I have said previously is more in keeping with the changes in energy density, anomalous increases in C transition time thru the cavity as measured externally and Claims of variation of radioactive decay rates. Regards Fran Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! mixent Wed, 04 May 2011 00:28:40 -0700 In reply to francis 's message of Tue, 3 May 2011 06:09:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] Scott and I have collaborated and communicated at length regarding a Casimir theory based on relativistic contraction of the longer vacuum wavelengths which still appear full length to an observer inside the cavity instead of the present theory where the longerwavelengths are simply upshifted to higher frequency inside the cavity. As I understand it, they are not normally upshifted. They are excluded altogether, because they are too long to fit in the cavity. It's precisely because they are excluded that they press on the outside, but not on the inside walls of the cavity, hence producing a pressure that pushes the walls together. Only the wavelengths greater than the cavity dimensions are responsible for this, and since these represent but a minute fraction of the total, the force is very small, until the walls get very close together. That's because as they approach one another, the excluded wavelengths get shorter and shorter, representing an ever increasing amount of vacuum energy. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
RE: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!
Jones, the Reifenschweiler effect would represent a downshift - there are also claims that reflect an up shift where the radioactive decay rate is accelerated. This fits more my posit of segregation due to Casimir suppression where the lower density inside a Casimir boundary is balanced by an increased density spread over the outer surface of the plates. This would also explain why suppression can accomplish dilation so cheaply compared to spatial acceleration because it is a balanced effect. The Reifenschweiler effect would apply to gas atom with an affinity to migrate into the sails of the outer plates while claims of accelerated delay would apply to gas populations with an affinity to migrate into the cavity -probably just physical properties like charge and size that effect the average migration path.I think the cavity will always be more concentrated and the acceleration claims far more prounounced than claims of delay because the outer plates represent a large very shallow reservoir while the cavity and transition between represent a more concentrated fast moving stream. Regards Fran _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:53 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! If ZPE radiation is being upshifted in a cavity then the Reifenschweiler effect would more likely be an increase in the decay rate, not a decrease. This is because the nucleus would be over-stimulated in the sense of the induced gamma effect, and it would decay faster, not slower. If seems more likely that radiation is being neither upshifted or downshifted, at least in the Reifenschweiler effect. Unlike many observers, I see the decay rate of the tritium in the Casimir cavity (from the perspective of the tritium itself) as NOT changing ! ...but instead some of the beta decay is being ported into a ZPE sink instead, so it only appears to us, outside the cavity ,that the decay rate it is slower than it was. IOW some of the radiation goes into Dirac 'reciprocal space' or a correlate, and we simply do not see it in 3-space, but from the standpoint of the rate itself and the tritium itself - nothing has changed. This can explain the Rossi heating effect when you substitute IRH (inverted Rydberg hydrogen) for tritium. More on that later. Jones From: Roarty, Francis X Robin, I had the same original displacement concept until recently and I think it is roughly equivalent to the up shifted term Scott and Thomas introduced me to. The issue with the displacement concept is it carries with it an image of a vacant portion of space where the displaced wavelength used to reside. While my relativistic theory doesn't exactly match either concept the up shifted concept Thomas Prevenslik first introduced me to comes from a thermal dynamic perspective of Casimir effect - I used to consider this the other camp for Casimir theory vs. the displacement camp that I was more comfortable with - Thomas comes at this from a perspective of thermal dynamics and will argue the plates are not pushed together and that ether doesn't need to exist to explain the effect, he explains the effect as an imbalance created by up shifting causing the plates to self attract. Although my relativistic concept now represents a new 3rd option/camp I chose to refer to the up shifting version as the alternative because it already deals with what I consider a misconception of there being a vacancy - the energy summation is still reduced because energy content reduces with wavelength until some cutoff frequency beyond which it is meaningless to integrate, therefore an up shifted spectrum will also sum to a lower energy total. For a while I just went with the idea that the vacancy got filled in with shorter wavelengths but the up shifted concept already handles that issue plus it is an easier transition to the relativistic concept because it already has the same remote perspective of faster wavelengths inside the cavity... the only thing it lacked was my position that the wavelengths would appear unchanged to a local observer in the cavity... which as I have said previously is more in keeping with the changes in energy density, anomalous increases in C transition time thru the cavity as measured externally and Claims of variation of radioactive decay rates. Regards Fran Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! mixent Wed, 04 May 2011 00:28:40 -0700 In reply to francis 's message of Tue, 3 May 2011 06:09:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] Scott and I have collaborated and communicated at length regarding a Casimir theory based on relativistic contraction of the longer vacuum wavelengths which still appear full length to an observer inside the cavity instead of the present theory where the longerwavelengths are simply upshifted to higher frequency inside
RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!
ops - didn't see the rest of your post which I will reply to ON list after lunch but YES I do think any radiation or reaction that INITIATES inside the cavity will downshift on the exit path! _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:53 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! If ZPE radiation is being upshifted in a cavity then the Reifenschweiler effect would more likely be an increase in the decay rate, not a decrease. This is because the nucleus would be over-stimulated in the sense of the induced gamma effect, and it would decay faster, not slower. If seems more likely that radiation is being neither upshifted or downshifted, at least in the Reifenschweiler effect. Unlike many observers, I see the decay rate of the tritium in the Casimir cavity (from the perspective of the tritium itself) as NOT changing ! ...but instead some of the beta decay is being ported into a ZPE sink instead, so it only appears to us, outside the cavity ,that the decay rate it is slower than it was. IOW some of the radiation goes into Dirac 'reciprocal space' or a correlate, and we simply do not see it in 3-space, but from the standpoint of the rate itself and the tritium itself - nothing has changed. This can explain the Rossi heating effect when you substitute IRH (inverted Rydberg hydrogen) for tritium. More on that later. Jones From: Roarty, Francis X Robin, I had the same original displacement concept until recently and I think it is roughly equivalent to the up shifted term Scott and Thomas introduced me to. The issue with the displacement concept is it carries with it an image of a vacant portion of space where the displaced wavelength used to reside. While my relativistic theory doesn't exactly match either concept the up shifted concept Thomas Prevenslik first introduced me to comes from a thermal dynamic perspective of Casimir effect - I used to consider this the other camp for Casimir theory vs. the displacement camp that I was more comfortable with - Thomas comes at this from a perspective of thermal dynamics and will argue the plates are not pushed together and that ether doesn't need to exist to explain the effect, he explains the effect as an imbalance created by up shifting causing the plates to self attract. Although my relativistic concept now represents a new 3rd option/camp I chose to refer to the up shifting version as the alternative because it already deals with what I consider a misconception of there being a vacancy - the energy summation is still reduced because energy content reduces with wavelength until some cutoff frequency beyond which it is meaningless to integrate, therefore an up shifted spectrum will also sum to a lower energy total. For a while I just went with the idea that the vacancy got filled in with shorter wavelengths but the up shifted concept already handles that issue plus it is an easier transition to the relativistic concept because it already has the same remote perspective of faster wavelengths inside the cavity... the only thing it lacked was my position that the wavelengths would appear unchanged to a local observer in the cavity... which as I have said previously is more in keeping with the changes in energy density, anomalous increases in C transition time thru the cavity as measured externally and Claims of variation of radioactive decay rates. Regards Fran Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! mixent Wed, 04 May 2011 00:28:40 -0700 In reply to francis 's message of Tue, 3 May 2011 06:09:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] Scott and I have collaborated and communicated at length regarding a Casimir theory based on relativistic contraction of the longer vacuum wavelengths which still appear full length to an observer inside the cavity instead of the present theory where the longerwavelengths are simply upshifted to higher frequency inside the cavity. As I understand it, they are not normally upshifted. They are excluded altogether, because they are too long to fit in the cavity. It's precisely because they are excluded that they press on the outside, but not on the inside walls of the cavity, hence producing a pressure that pushes the walls together. Only the wavelengths greater than the cavity dimensions are responsible for this, and since these represent but a minute fraction of the total, the force is very small, until the walls get very close together. That's because as they approach one another, the excluded wavelengths get shorter and shorter, representing an ever increasing amount of vacuum energy. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
RE: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!
Jones Beene wrote on Wed, 04 May 2011 06:54 [snip] Unlike many observers, I see the decay rate of the tritium in the Casimir cavity (from the perspective of the tritium itself) as NOT changing ! [/snip] Jones, I agree the rate is unchanged from the perspective of the tritium.. BUT I think tritium is in a HIGHER vacuum energy density because the decay is retarded. I think the Reifenschweiler effect tells us the tritium is experiencing a higher vacuum energy density associated with either the External walls of normal Casimir geometry or repulsive Casimir geometry. I am convinced time dilation is accomplished so easily by nano geometry suppression compared to the energy needed for spatial displacement is because the AVERAGE vacuum energy density remains unchanged above the nano scale- The quantum effect of the geometry is able to SEGREGATE the density into opposing reservoirs of different intensity and volume much more easily at and below the nano scale. The difference between these opposing reservoirs creates a permanent negative pressure conduit between them when the opening is sufficiently small such that the suppression keeps the reservoirs from becoming depleted. The outside of a cavity is a shield such that the reduced density inside means the external surface gradient accumulates pressure at an accelerated rate compared to normal matter that is exposed on all sides - or you could look at it as back pressure from the propagating vacuum wavelengths as they translate/up shift into the cavity. IMHO It would maintain a shallow reservoir of increased energy density spread over the entire exterior surface of the cavity. [snip]...but instead some of the beta decay is being ported into a ZPE sink instead, so it only appears to us, outside the cavity ,that the decay rate it is slower than it was. - IOW some of the radiation goes into Dirac 'reciprocal space' or a correlate, and we simply do not see it in 3-space, but from the standpoint of the rate itself and the tritium itself - nothing has changed.[/snip] Yes, although with Reifenschweiler effect you are talking about a repulsive Casimir geometry that increases vacuum energy density, this effect is just the same as spatially accelerating the tritium to near C such that it appears to slow from our perspective- when it returns to earth we seem to have aged greatly from it's perspective but it will then start aging at the same rate as us again since it is now in the same inertial frame. This is a mirror to the attractive Casimir phenomenon that lowers energy density inside a cavity. The hydrogen inside a normal Casimir geometry experiences LOWER energy density, deceleration or negative acceleration where it is the universe outside the cavity that appears to be racing away near C and when the hydrogen returns from the cavity it discovers that we, outside the cavity, have not aged while it has experienced years of time and chemical reactions. Regards Fran Jones Beene Wed, 04 May 2011 06:54:39 -0700 If ZPE radiation is being upshifted in a cavity then the Reifenschweiler effect would more likely be an increase in the decay rate, not a decrease. This is because the nucleus would be over-stimulated in the sense of the induced gamma effect, and it would decay faster, not slower. If seems more likely that radiation is being neither upshifted or downshifted, at least in the Reifenschweiler effect. Unlike many observers, I see the decay rate of the tritium in the Casimir cavity (from the perspective of the tritium itself) as NOT changing ! ...but instead some of the beta decay is being ported into a ZPE sink instead, so it only appears to us, outside the cavity ,that the decay rate it is slower than it was. IOW some of the radiation goes into Dirac 'reciprocal space' or a correlate, and we simply do not see it in 3-space, but from the standpoint of the rate itself and the tritium itself - nothing has changed. This can explain the Rossi heating effect when you substitute IRH (inverted Rydberg hydrogen) for tritium. More on that later. Jones
Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Wed, 04 May 2011 08:14:54 -0400: Hi Fran, [snip] Robin, I had the same original displacement concept until recently and I think it is roughly equivalent to the up shifted term Scott and Thomas introduced me to. The issue with the displacement concept is it carries with it an image of a vacant portion of space where the displaced wavelength used to reside. I see this a strength, not a weakness. Note that if black holes increase density, then you *need* a decrease in densitywhich leads to another thought. If a magnetic field is caused by pile up of aether in front of a moving charged body, then there should be a decrease in density behind it. :) While my relativistic theory doesn't exactly match either concept the up shifted concept Thomas Prevenslik first introduced me to comes from a thermal dynamic perspective of Casimir effect - I used to consider this the other camp for Casimir theory vs. the displacement camp that I was more comfortable with - Thomas comes at this from a perspective of thermal dynamics and will argue the plates are not pushed together and that ether doesn't need to exist to explain the effect, he explains the effect as an imbalance created by up shifting causing the plates to self attract. Milonni wrote a paper that was based on attraction. I think this is in Phys. Rev. A, #25 page 1315 (1982). You may find it of interest. Although my relativistic concept now represents a new 3rd option/camp I chose to refer to the up shifting version as the alternative because it already deals with what I consider a misconception of there being a vacancy - the energy summation is still reduced because energy content reduces with wavelength Do you mean increases with increase in wavelength, or increases with decrease in wavelength? until some cutoff frequency beyond which it is meaningless to integrate, therefore an up shifted spectrum will also sum to a lower energy total. For a while I just went with the idea that the vacancy got filled in with shorter wavelengths Note that because E = h*frequency, shorter wavelengths (higher frequency) represent more energy. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 4 May 2011 06:53:02 -0700: Hi, I think there is a much simpler explanation, involving more or less T being absorbed into the Ti. When it's in the lattice the weak beta radiation is stopped by the metal. When the T is a free gas, the beta radiation is not prevented from reaching the detector. If ZPE radiation is being upshifted in a cavity then the Reifenschweiler effect would more likely be an increase in the decay rate, not a decrease. This is because the nucleus would be over-stimulated in the sense of the induced gamma effect, and it would decay faster, not slower. If seems more likely that radiation is being neither upshifted or downshifted, at least in the Reifenschweiler effect. Unlike many observers, I see the decay rate of the tritium in the Casimir cavity (from the perspective of the tritium itself) as NOT changing ! ...but instead some of the beta decay is being ported into a ZPE sink instead, so it only appears to us, outside the cavity ,that the decay rate it is slower than it was. IOW some of the radiation goes into Dirac 'reciprocal space' or a correlate, and we simply do not see it in 3-space, but from the standpoint of the rate itself and the tritium itself - nothing has changed. This can explain the Rossi heating effect when you substitute IRH (inverted Rydberg hydrogen) for tritium. More on that later. Jones From: Roarty, Francis X Robin, I had the same original displacement concept until recently and I think it is roughly equivalent to the up shifted term Scott and Thomas introduced me to. The issue with the displacement concept is it carries with it an image of a vacant portion of space where the displaced wavelength used to reside. While my relativistic theory doesn't exactly match either concept the up shifted concept Thomas Prevenslik first introduced me to comes from a thermal dynamic perspective of Casimir effect - I used to consider this the other camp for Casimir theory vs. the displacement camp that I was more comfortable with - Thomas comes at this from a perspective of thermal dynamics and will argue the plates are not pushed together and that ether doesn't need to exist to explain the effect, he explains the effect as an imbalance created by up shifting causing the plates to self attract. Although my relativistic concept now represents a new 3rd option/camp I chose to refer to the up shifting version as the alternative because it already deals with what I consider a misconception of there being a vacancy - the energy summation is still reduced because energy content reduces with wavelength until some cutoff frequency beyond which it is meaningless to integrate, therefore an up shifted spectrum will also sum to a lower energy total. For a while I just went with the idea that the vacancy got filled in with shorter wavelengths but the up shifted concept already handles that issue plus it is an easier transition to the relativistic concept because it already has the same remote perspective of faster wavelengths inside the cavity... the only thing it lacked was my position that the wavelengths would appear unchanged to a local observer in the cavity... which as I have said previously is more in keeping with the changes in energy density, anomalous increases in C transition time thru the cavity as measured externally and Claims of variation of radioactive decay rates. Regards Fran Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! mixent Wed, 04 May 2011 00:28:40 -0700 In reply to francis 's message of Tue, 3 May 2011 06:09:29 -0400: Hi, [snip] Scott and I have collaborated and communicated at length regarding a Casimir theory based on relativistic contraction of the longer vacuum wavelengths which still appear full length to an observer inside the cavity instead of the present theory where the longerwavelengths are simply upshifted to higher frequency inside the cavity. As I understand it, they are not normally upshifted. They are excluded altogether, because they are too long to fit in the cavity. It's precisely because they are excluded that they press on the outside, but not on the inside walls of the cavity, hence producing a pressure that pushes the walls together. Only the wavelengths greater than the cavity dimensions are responsible for this, and since these represent but a minute fraction of the total, the force is very small, until the walls get very close together. That's because as they approach one another, the excluded wavelengths get shorter and shorter, representing an ever increasing amount of vacuum energy. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!
Axil, Scott and I have collaborated and communicated at length regarding a Casimir theory based on relativistic contraction of the longer vacuum wavelengths which still appear full length to an observer inside the cavity instead of the present theory where the longerwavelengths are simply upshifted to higher frequency inside the cavity. We don't deny the possibility of nuclear reactions but feel they are subsequent to an energy rich ZPE reaction where fractional h2 is repeatedly rectified into fractional h1 in an asymmetrical motion where fh1 is unimpeded but fh2 opposes any change in energy density which discounts the amount of heat needed to disassociate the covalent bond. The h2 doesn't simply come to a stop because it has to obey constant motion of gas based on HUP [our ZPE connection]. There are other methods of extraction like Haisch and Moddel but my point is they all share this initiating environment where ZPE makes probable otherwise improbable nuclear reactions. It may explain some oddities like changes in radioactive decay rates and perceived increase in C propagating through a cavity when measured outside the cavity and IMHO should work very much like the MAHG was intended without any nuclear consequences but there is also a possibility that a nuclear reaction cannot be avoided as a book balancing type of reaction as proposed by Jones Beene. Regards Fran Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! Axil Axil Mon, 02 May 2011 16:38:48 -0700 *We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! Re-Read the many posts by Fran Roarty and me.* What does this theory (Relativistic Casimir Cavities) say about the items that interest me; the production rate of tritium if any, or the production of U-233 from thorium-232 or PU-239 from U-238? How does this theory relate to other cold fusion reactions in general? Does this theory support the NI + H - Cu reaction? Can this theory transmute 40 some odd elements from just H? Does it explain the consumption of 1 gram of H2 per day without leakage? On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Wm. Scott Smith scott...@hotmail.comwrote: We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! Re-Read the many posts by Fran Roarty and me. This potentially explains transmutation and heat production. Look at the patents by Modell and Haisch where they propose circulating a gas through Casimir Cavities. Scott -- Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 16:13:20 -0400 From: janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Let us exercise some common sense in terms of dimensional analysis. Let us exercise some common sense in terms of dimensional analysis. As revealed on the Rossi web site as follows: Dear Mr Mauro Rossi: 1- we consume about 1 gram of hydrogen in 24 hours 2- I never saw neutrons and neutrinos, with exception of few times, when I saw neutrons, captured in bubble columns, but for a very particular experiment I made by myself, being very dangerous. 3- No, I didn't. Warm regards, A.R. One gram of hydrogen per day is a HUGE amount of hydrogen inputted into a closed system and consumed. Where could it all be going? If one hydrogen atom transmutes 1 nickel atom into copper that means about 64 grams of copper would be transmuted every day. Since we know that there is only 100 grams of nickel used in the Cat-E, the theory that nickel fusion with hydrogen just does not add up. There are about 30 some odd elements transmuted in addition to copper present in the Cat-E ash. Where did they come from and how are they formed? The theory that Rossi puts forward on what happens atomically in the Cat-E just does not make sense. If the Cat-E can run for 6 months without shutdown, then about 180 grams of hydrogen enter the Cat-E. Where does it all go? If the Cat-E can run for two years without shutdown, about 730 grams of hydrogen enter the Cat-E. Where does it all go? Constrained by common sense, does anyone have a theory that can deal with these facts that have been revealed by Rossi. Wouldn't the gas pressure rise in the reaction vessel over time if all that hydrogen was fed into the Cat-E?
Re: [Vo]:We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities!
*“We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! Re-Read the many posts by Fran Roarty and me.”* What does this theory (Relativistic Casimir Cavities) say about the items that interest me; the production rate of tritium if any, or the production of U-233 from thorium-232 or PU-239 from U-238? How does this theory relate to other cold fusion reactions in general? Does this theory support the NI + H - Cu reaction? Can this theory transmute 40 some odd elements from just H? Does it explain the consumption of 1 gram of H2 per day without leakage? On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Wm. Scott Smith scott...@hotmail.comwrote: We have a theory: Relativistic Casimir Cavities! Re-Read the many posts by Fran Roarty and me. This potentially explains transmutation and heat production. Look at the patents by Modell and Haisch where they propose circulating a gas through Casimir Cavities. Scott -- Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 16:13:20 -0400 From: janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Let us exercise some common sense in terms of dimensional analysis. Let us exercise some common sense in terms of dimensional analysis. As revealed on the Rossi web site as follows: Dear Mr Mauro Rossi: 1- we consume about 1 gram of hydrogen in 24 hours 2- I never saw neutrons and neutrinos, with exception of few times, when I saw neutrons, captured in bubble columns, but for a very particular experiment I made by myself, being very dangerous. 3- No, I didn’t. Warm regards, A.R. One gram of hydrogen per day is a HUGE amount of hydrogen inputted into a closed system and consumed. Where could it all be going? If one hydrogen atom transmutes 1 nickel atom into copper that means about 64 grams of copper would be transmuted every day. Since we know that there is only 100 grams of nickel used in the Cat-E, the theory that nickel fusion with hydrogen just does not add up. There are about 30 some odd elements transmuted in addition to copper present in the Cat-E ash. Where did they come from and how are they formed? The theory that Rossi puts forward on what happens atomically in the Cat-E just does not make sense. If the Cat-E can run for 6 months without shutdown, then about 180 grams of hydrogen enter the Cat-E. Where does it all go? If the Cat-E can run for two years without shutdown, about 730 grams of hydrogen enter the Cat-E. Where does it all go? Constrained by common sense, does anyone have a theory that can deal with these facts that have been revealed by Rossi. Wouldn’t the gas pressure rise in the reaction vessel over time if all that hydrogen was fed into the Cat-E?