Re: [Vo]:Website on LENR Fuel Preparation
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: True. But maybe not a showstopper. Thin film gold is used in computer boards and plugs. If the gold can be effectively captured and recycled perhaps this could be made to work. I do not think the goal would transmute the way host metals sometimes do. I think this would be cheaper than using palladium. An interesting question here is whether the host material is a catalyst or whether it is consumed under LENR. I don't imagine we know enough at this point about the various processes and setups to say for sure one way or another or to generalize. But it is possible that some substrates, such as palladium, are essentially inert under LENR, while others, such as nickel, gold or carbon, will instead be consumed. In the latter case, recycling would not be possible. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Website on LENR Fuel Preparation
Mr. Basgall has responded to the questions below with the followinghttp://lenr-coldfusion.com/2012/09/12/universal-lenr-reactor-fuel-preparation/#comment-74 : RobL: I dont’ know for sure that the gold or the triangle shaped wire would make any difference at all in the LENR reactions. After reading the Celani experiments using the ISOTAN wire from the mechanical view I felt he was on a path to commercialization by the logic using the ISOTAN wire. The process to create the fissures or cracks in the wire he disclosed was causing the wire to become more brittle. Subsequent that the Storms video came out and he described his process in an understandable way in my opinion. He described the cracks and fissures and I have seen those before after using nickel and chrome powder in a special torch to fix damaged hydraulic rods. Since many claims of photon exchanges in the LENR process I thought of how reflective gold was and when I checked it out the melting point was just a few degrees under the nickel and it is soft compared to most metals. When the hot metal droplets hit the cold nickel only a small point will stick to the base wire and when the rollers smash those little cold balls of soft metal the fissures are formed on the outside of the base wire allowing it to keep it’s tensil strength. The triangle shape was the simplest way to grip the wire without damaging the outer fissure flakes. That shape can be gripped easily as it is rotated to form sharp spiral edges which dipoles like to exert fields from. In the Celani experiments I saw that the wires had insulation and were lose so I knew for a commercial product there could be no lose wires so to speak I designed a way to hold the wires at a specific tension apart from one another using eight fuel rods. Thus also eliminating the possibility of cell contamination due to fiber insulation. Also using macro scale logic the Storm predictions, the Celani experiments and the others working with LENR explain many delta exchanges for the electron capture. Many statements of resonance so I figured no limitations let’s acoustically vibrate the wire and possibly a resonance will stimulate an event LENR. This is highly speculative however we are attempting to make something like the physicist theory, a base to start standardization through using commercially available fuel wire. So if we have known facts like Storms and Celani offer, and those known facts are reduced to a standard mechanical form so everyone can use, then we have something to compare. Thank you RobL for showing interest in the LENR fuel and keep picking things apart because that’s the only way we can help LENR develop, “things are logically deduced by knowing what doesn’t work as well as establishing the cause that makes it work”. Round wire is more difficult to focus angles at projected targets. The hydrogen finds the fissures, while loading and unloading and I deduced it may stimulate a LENR reaction to hold the wires taught and vibrating. Robert Lynn wrote: OK, I'll bite Why gold coated and why does it need to be of triangular form? Basically why would that make any positive difference? Adding gold coating is the antithesis of trying to find a cheap fuel, and Celani has been doing fine using round wires - also seems that round that would give more opportunity for consistent processing and for the hydrogen to get in around the wires. On top of which I don't think that you want large thick bundles of fuel in a reactor if there is a positive temperature coefficient to the reaction. Want thin layers with good cooling everywhere to prevent run-way hot spots from forming, or perhaps powder in a fluidised bed where the powder rapidly convects. Doesn't really seem to be adding much to the public knowledge base (unless I missed something).
Re: [Vo]:Website on LENR Fuel Preparation
OK, I'll bite Why gold coated and why does it need to be of triangular form? Basically why would that make any positive difference? Adding gold coating is the antithesis of trying to find a cheap fuel, and Celani has been doing fine using round wires - also seems that round that would give more opportunity for consistent processing and for the hydrogen to get in around the wires. On top of which I don't think that you want large thick bundles of fuel in a reactor if there is a positive temperature coefficient to the reaction. Want thin layers with good cooling everywhere to prevent run-way hot spots from forming, or perhaps powder in a fluidised bed where the powder rapidly convects. Doesn't really seem to be adding much to the public knowledge base (unless I missed something). On 13 September 2012 15:01, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Vortex-L, I hope that this is new: http://lenr-coldfusion.com/2012/09/12/universal-lenr-reactor-fuel-preparation/ Respectfully, Ron Kita, Chiralex Doylestown PA
RE: [Vo]:Website on LENR Fuel Preparation
RE: why triangular shaped? Pointed edges increase the electric field strength... -Mark Iverson From: Robert Lynn [mailto:robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:34 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Website on LENR Fuel Preparation OK, I'll bite Why gold coated and why does it need to be of triangular form? Basically why would that make any positive difference? Adding gold coating is the antithesis of trying to find a cheap fuel, and Celani has been doing fine using round wires - also seems that round that would give more opportunity for consistent processing and for the hydrogen to get in around the wires. On top of which I don't think that you want large thick bundles of fuel in a reactor if there is a positive temperature coefficient to the reaction. Want thin layers with good cooling everywhere to prevent run-way hot spots from forming, or perhaps powder in a fluidised bed where the powder rapidly convects. Doesn't really seem to be adding much to the public knowledge base (unless I missed something). On 13 September 2012 15:01, Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Vortex-L, I hope that this is new: http://lenr-coldfusion.com/2012/09/12/universal-lenr-reactor-fuel-preparatio n/ Respectfully, Ron Kita, Chiralex Doylestown PA
Re: [Vo]:Website on LENR Fuel Preparation
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: Adding gold coating is the antithesis of trying to find a cheap fuel . . . True. But maybe not a showstopper. Thin film gold is used in computer boards and plugs. If the gold can be effectively captured and recycled perhaps this could be made to work. I do not think the goal would transmute the way host metals sometimes do. I think this would be cheaper than using palladium. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Website on LENR Fuel Preparation
Meant: I do not think the GOLD would transmute the way host metals sometimes do. Voice input error. It would be better to use cheap materials. - Jed
