Re: [Vo]:a paper needed for the paradigm shift in LENR

[mixent]

In reply to  Peter Gluck's message of Fri, 9 Oct 2015 12:39:59 +0300:
Hi,
[snip]
>http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/10/leonid-urutskoev-phenomenological-model.html
>A very important paper- I think, and new thinking- essential.
>Peter

I have been afraid of this for 20 years. :( If this were the only type of
reaction, it could mean LENR would primarily be useful for production of
elements/isotopes that are in low supply, rather than as a source of energy.

However it may also be possible to provide starting combinations where no good
low energy match is possible, forcing the process to release considerable
energy.

BTW this sort of process appears to crop up whenever the reaction site is
flooded with electrons.
(See also Proton21 in Russia, and even Mills' latest efforts may be an example.)

I wonder if one of their (inadvertent?) criteria was that the products be stable
nuclei?

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:a paper needed for the paradigm shift in LENR

[Axil Axil]

Like so much in this universe, it comes down to input, process, and output.
The output from lenr can take many forms based on linkages in the process
mechanism. These outputs include light, particles fragments, particle
creation like muons and electrons, magnetism, RF, shock waves, heat, XUV
and x-rays and sometimes gamma.

It takes knowhow to get the energy produced by LENR to come out as heat.
But it would be better if the energy came out as electrons.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:24 PM,  wrote:

> In reply to  Peter Gluck's message of Fri, 9 Oct 2015 12:39:59 +0300:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/10/leonid-urutskoev-phenomenological-model.html
> >A very important paper- I think, and new thinking- essential.
> >Peter
>
> I have been afraid of this for 20 years. :( If this were the only type of
> reaction, it could mean LENR would primarily be useful for production of
> elements/isotopes that are in low supply, rather than as a source of
> energy.
>
> However it may also be possible to provide starting combinations where no
> good
> low energy match is possible, forcing the process to release considerable
> energy.
>
> BTW this sort of process appears to crop up whenever the reaction site is
> flooded with electrons.
> (See also Proton21 in Russia, and even Mills' latest efforts may be an
> example.)
>
> I wonder if one of their (inadvertent?) criteria was that the products be
> stable
> nuclei?
>
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>
>