Re: [libreoffice-website] Funding banner, amount and proposal

2011-02-22 Thread Matt Sturgeon
The script converts the current amount into a percentage, and then
converts the percentage into pixels (for use in the width of the bar.)
Currently 100% is 50'000 EURO and 100% is also 330px. The script also
prevents the percentage from being higher than 100%.
The way we should logically allow the script to show higher values is
to set the script's target higher (once 100% is reached) and also
hard-code the text percentage on the banner, or have two percentages
(one out of 50'000, which can go over 100%, and another out of the new
goal, which cannot go over 100%.) The second would be used for the
progress bar (since it needs a limit on it's highest value) and the
first (unlimited) would be used for text.

On 22 February 2011 07:13, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Hi Marc,

 Marc Paré wrote on 2011-02-21 20.29:

 As the funding amount of 50k Euro is approaching its goal, will we cut
 the funding drive off once it reaches 50K or will we stay the course for
 the balance of remaining days? I would vote to keep going for the course
 of the remaining days as per SC decision:

 indeed - 50k is the stock capital, so anything on top of it will directly go
 into our budget, like money for a marketing budget, travelling budget and
 the like. I definitely want to keep the race open, and will post some
 details and ideas soon. :-)

 Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Funding banner, amount and proposal

2011-02-22 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Matt,

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Matt Sturgeon mtt...@gmail.com wrote:
 The script converts the current amount into a percentage, and then
 converts the percentage into pixels (for use in the width of the bar.)

Minor detail: it doesn't use the percentage (as that is rounded right
away), but computes also the pixels using the amount.

 Currently 100% is 50'000 EURO and 100% is also 330px. The script also
 prevents the percentage from being higher than 100%.

exactly - for reference:

public function Banner() {
//return new DataObjectSet(); /* return empty DataObject set to
disable the banner */
/* no banner for fi_FI */
if ($this-Locale == fi_FI) {
return new DataObjectSet();
}
$currentdonations = 37900; /* update me */
/* 2011-03-21 23:59:59 is deadline */
$seconds = mktime(23, 59, 59, 3, 21, 2011) - time();
$days = floor($seconds/86400);
$percent = min(100, round($currentdonations / 500));
$pixels = min(330, round($currentdonations * 3.3/500)); /* width of
bar is 330px */
$vars = new DataObjectSet(new ArrayData(array(
Metertext  = $currentdonations.€ ($percent%),
Meterwidth = $pixels,
Bannertext = $days. days left)));
return $vars;
}

 The way we should logically allow the script to show higher values

I'd just wouldn't show a progress-meter at all then
But no matter what is decided, adjusting the php/templates accordingly
is rather easy...

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Marc Paré
Document Freedom Day is fast approaching, and as I understand we are 
also supporting this day, maybe we should also consider putting one of 
their banners on our website to advertise the day. We should do all we 
can to support our ODF choice of file formats.


Cheers

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-22 16:11, Marc Paré a écrit :

Document Freedom Day is fast approaching, and as I understand we are
also supporting this day, maybe we should also consider putting one of
their banners on our website to advertise the day. We should do all we
can to support our ODF choice of file formats.

Cheers

Marc




I also see that the Sponsors for the DFD site are Google and Oracle.[1]

Cheers

Marc

[1] http://documentfreedom.org


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Matt Sturgeon
Howabout one of their banners, tweaked to go onto the libreoffice branded
banner we made for the foundation challange?

On 22 Feb 2011 21:12, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Document Freedom Day is fast approaching, and as I understand we are
 also supporting this day, maybe we should also consider putting one of
 their banners on our website to advertise the day. We should do all we
 can to support our ODF choice of file formats.

 Cheers

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-22 16:20, Matt Sturgeon a écrit :

Howabout one of their banners, tweaked to go onto the libreoffice branded
banner we made for the foundation challange?

On 22 Feb 2011 21:12, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com  wrote:

Document Freedom Day is fast approaching, and as I understand we are
also supporting this day, maybe we should also consider putting one of
their banners on our website to advertise the day. We should do all we
can to support our ODF choice of file formats.

Cheers

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Not sure if the website could handle two banners at the top. I am sure 
Christian will have some advice for this.


Cheers

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Matt Sturgeon
Well if all else fails we could always go for a full width...

On 22 Feb 2011 21:34, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 2011-02-22 16:20, Matt Sturgeon a écrit :
 Howabout one of their banners, tweaked to go onto the libreoffice branded
 banner we made for the foundation challange?

 On 22 Feb 2011 21:12, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Document Freedom Day is fast approaching, and as I understand we are
 also supporting this day, maybe we should also consider putting one of
 their banners on our website to advertise the day. We should do all we
 can to support our ODF choice of file formats.

 Cheers

 Marc


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 Not sure if the website could handle two banners at the top. I am sure
 Christian will have some advice for this.

 Cheers

 Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Marc, *,

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 2011-02-22 16:20, Matt Sturgeon a écrit :

 Howabout one of their banners, tweaked to go onto the libreoffice branded
 banner we made for the foundation challange?
 [...]
 Not sure if the website could handle two banners at the top. I am sure
 Christian will have some advice for this.

Hmm - not sure what advice you expect - there is no room to have two
banners at the same time, all the banners that are in the works use
the available space, so to display two banners, the design would need
to change, but that's obvious, no need to get advice from me, but
maybe I misunderstood...

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Matt Sturgeon
I'm assuming this date clashes with the challenge?

On 22 Feb 2011 21:43, Christian Lohmaier 
lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Marc, *,

 On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 2011-02-22 16:20, Matt Sturgeon a écrit :

 Howabout one of their banners, tweaked to go onto the libreoffice
branded
 banner we made for the foundation challange?
 [...]
 Not sure if the website could handle two banners at the top. I am sure
 Christian will have some advice for this.

 Hmm - not sure what advice you expect - there is no room to have two
 banners at the same time, all the banners that are in the works use
 the available space, so to display two banners, the design would need
 to change, but that's obvious, no need to get advice from me, but
 maybe I misunderstood...

 ciao
 Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-22 16:46, Matt Sturgeon a écrit :

I'm assuming this date clashes with the challenge?



Yes, Date of DFD is March 30th. Now that I look at the LibreOffice site 
there isn't much space on the actual site to do this kind of thing 
except for the Challenge banner area.


I guess there may not be any space to show our support for DFD other 
than on a page which would not give it enough presence IMO.


Cheers

Marc



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Matt Sturgeon
Is this worth wasting 150-odd pixels of verticle real estate?
If so it should be a 100% width banner for a day or two.

Else: Maybe we could temporaraly reduce the size of the animated screenshots
and stick it under that, to the right of the Download LibreOffice 3.3
link...

Otherwise I don't see this happening.

Basically, the question is how much are willing to compromise our design to
promote this, and how long are we willing to do it for.

On 22 Feb 2011 21:55, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 2011-02-22 16:46, Matt Sturgeon a écrit :
 I'm assuming this date clashes with the challenge?


 Yes, Date of DFD is March 30th. Now that I look at the LibreOffice site
 there isn't much space on the actual site to do this kind of thing
 except for the Challenge banner area.

 I guess there may not be any space to show our support for DFD other
 than on a page which would not give it enough presence IMO.

 Cheers

 Marc



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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Marc, all,

Marc Paré schrieb:

Le 2011-02-22 16:46, Matt Sturgeon a écrit :

I'm assuming this date clashes with the challenge?



Yes, Date of DFD is March 30th. Now that I look at the LibreOffice site
there isn't much space on the actual site to do this kind of thing
except for the Challenge banner area.

I guess there may not be any space to show our support for DFD other
than on a page which would not give it enough presence IMO.


This would be an entry for a news section on the homepage - where we can 
point to our PRs as well.


But as we only provide News from the TDF Blog, I think the DFD should be 
mentioned there... (I'm quite sure that one of the SC members would be 
interested to provide a blog entry.)


A PR might inform about the variety of local activities by LibreOffice 
community members. I read some comments on the marketing site, but would 
like to have them collected at the wiki:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DFD

Best regards

Bernhard

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-22 17:06, Matt Sturgeon a écrit :

Is this worth wasting 150-odd pixels of verticle real estate?
If so it should be a 100% width banner for a day or two.

Else: Maybe we could temporaraly reduce the size of the animated screenshots
and stick it under that, to the right of the Download LibreOffice 3.3
link...

Otherwise I don't see this happening.

Basically, the question is how much are willing to compromise our design to
promote this, and how long are we willing to do it for.



Maybe we could afford 1 day on our front page somewhere. If we could 
somehow find space somewhere, I think it is worth it as ODF is at the 
core of our software. Promoting ODF should always be at the top of our 
agenda as it is our default format(s).


Maybe add it to our screenshots? Not sure how that would look though. We 
would have to test it out on the test site.


Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Matt Sturgeon
I feel a blog post is perfect. But maybe post a banner somewhere on
the homepage (or if we find nowhere, then full width banner) for a
single day in addition?

I'd like to see a banner on the day, but for the longer-term promotion
a blog-post saying the day is coming up is more suitable.

On 22 February 2011 22:14, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:
 Hi Marc, all,

 Marc Paré schrieb:

 Le 2011-02-22 16:46, Matt Sturgeon a écrit :

 I'm assuming this date clashes with the challenge?


 Yes, Date of DFD is March 30th. Now that I look at the LibreOffice site
 there isn't much space on the actual site to do this kind of thing
 except for the Challenge banner area.

 I guess there may not be any space to show our support for DFD other
 than on a page which would not give it enough presence IMO.

 This would be an entry for a news section on the homepage - where we can
 point to our PRs as well.

 But as we only provide News from the TDF Blog, I think the DFD should be
 mentioned there... (I'm quite sure that one of the SC members would be
 interested to provide a blog entry.)

 A PR might inform about the variety of local activities by LibreOffice
 community members. I read some comments on the marketing site, but would
 like to have them collected at the wiki:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DFD

 Best regards

 Bernhard

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Matt, Marc, all,

Matt Sturgeon schrieb:

[...] But maybe post a banner somewhere on
the homepage (or if we find nowhere, then full width banner) for a
single day in addition?

I'd like to see a banner on the day, but for the longer-term promotion
a blog-post saying the day is coming up is more suitable.


I personally don't like a full width banner - not even for one single day.

Even if we support ODF to the best of our possibilities, to me it is not 
more important than LibreOffice itself (I know that others might 
disagree on this point). Therefore I don't want to see a banner putting 
our logo even more in the background than we already do with the present 
banner.


And removing more space on the page content in height should be avoided 
IMHO. On my screen the content has only 490px in height on the main page 
and the second level navigation reduces it for another 35 px.


Adding a full width banner (assuming it would be only 60 px high) would 
reduce the visible content here by at least 12% - with a higher banner 
(90px is much more likely including any necessary whitespace) this would 
go up to nearly 20%.


What would be possible:

As the fundraising will be finished on March 21st, a new banner could be 
created for the DFD day on March 30th replacing the other (new) banner 
with thank you for funding our foundation - and keep on donating for 
just one day.


But at the moment I don't have the time to work on this...

Best regards

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Matt Sturgeon
On 22 February 2011 22:52, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:
 As the fundraising will be finished on March 21st, a new banner could be
 created for the DFD day on March 30th replacing the other (new) banner with
 thank you for funding our foundation - and keep on donating for just one
 day.

Oh, the funding will be finished by then? Great. I should have paid
more attention to the dates.


Link me to the site where DFD's banners are, and I'll knock something
up to replace the current banner for a few days.

In the mean time, how many days can we sacrifice our donate banner
for? And  should we put a text link Donate now somewhere?

Alternatively, I could attempt to design two banners (a reduced width
donate now banner, and a DFD banner) to sit side-by-side from March 22
to March 30.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Matt,

Matt Sturgeon schrieb:

On 22 February 2011 22:52, Bernhard Dippoldbernh...@familie-dippold.at  wrote:

As the fundraising will be finished on March 21st, a new banner could be
created for the DFD day on March 30th replacing the other (new) banner with
thank you for funding our foundation - and keep on donating for just one
day.


Oh, the funding will be finished by then? Great. I should have paid
more attention to the dates.


Link me to the site where DFD's banners are, and I'll knock something
up to replace the current banner for a few days.


Mark already sent a link somewhere:
http://documentfreedom.org/2011/artwork.de.html


In the mean time, how many days can we sacrifice our donate banner
for? And  should we put a text link Donate now somewhere?

Alternatively, I could attempt to design two banners (a reduced width
donate now banner, and a DFD banner) to sit side-by-side from March 22
to March 30.

I would like to see a Thank you (and keep on donating) banner in full 
width for at least one week.


So I'd propose to have a small DFD banner (just the logo and March 
30th at it's side) together with a smaller Thank you banner for the 
(29th and) 30th March. We would have to create a dedicated DFD page 
(perhaps the wiki page) where we can link from the DFD banner, 
containing information on local activities and a link to the DFD page.


But this seems to have a bit more time, so I'll put this task to the 
heap of later to be worked on topics...


Best regards

Bernhard

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Italo Vignoli

On 02/22/2011 10:11 PM, Marc Paré wrote:

Document Freedom Day is fast approaching, and as I understand we are
also supporting this day, maybe we should also consider putting one of
their banners on our website to advertise the day. We should do all we
can to support our ODF choice of file formats.


I'm working with FSF on this subject. Please wait.

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-22 17:08, Italo Vignoli a écrit :

On 02/22/2011 10:11 PM, Marc Paré wrote:

Document Freedom Day is fast approaching, and as I understand we are
also supporting this day, maybe we should also consider putting one of
their banners on our website to advertise the day. We should do all we
can to support our ODF choice of file formats.


I'm working with FSF on this subject. Please wait.

Thanks Italo, Bernhard, Matt and Christian. Also thanks to Matt for 
offering to help out with the banner(s).


Bernhard, I hope that Matt can still go on and put forth a proposal for 
a banner?


Matt, the DFD artwork is here: 
http://documentfreedom.org/2011/artwork.fr.html


Italo, Google and Oracle show as sponsors. It would be nice if we could 
get on to the sponsor page. If we could not do it financially, perhaps 
we could do it with manpower help. We could perhaps help them out with 
marketing materials? Or any other help they may need with the site?


Cheers

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Matt Sturgeon
Has a you can still donate banner been agreed on/proposed yet?

On 23 Feb 2011 02:30, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Le 2011-02-22 17:08, Italo Vignoli a écrit :
 On 02/22/2011 10:11 PM, Marc Paré wrote:
 Document Freedom Day is fast approaching, and as I understand we are
 also supporting this day, maybe we should also consider putting one of
 their banners on our website to advertise the day. We should do all we
 can to support our ODF choice of file formats.

 I'm working with FSF on this subject. Please wait.

 Thanks Italo, Bernhard, Matt and Christian. Also thanks to Matt for
 offering to help out with the banner(s).

 Bernhard, I hope that Matt can still go on and put forth a proposal for
 a banner?

 Matt, the DFD artwork is here:
 http://documentfreedom.org/2011/artwork.fr.html

 Italo, Google and Oracle show as sponsors. It would be nice if we could
 get on to the sponsor page. If we could not do it financially, perhaps
 we could do it with manpower help. We could perhaps help them out with
 marketing materials? Or any other help they may need with the site?

 Cheers

 Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Matt Sturgeon
How is this looking?
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Donate_and_DFD_Banners_600x60.png

I took the elements and fonts from the DFD stuff, and put it on a
Document Foundation branded banner.

There should be enough room to use the left-hand banner for the full
time from completion (at least date completion. Maybe financial
completion?) to the day (the 30th).

Does anyone know the hexadecimal for the brown-ish colour used instead
of grey on the donate banner?

I need to know also what has to go on the donate banner.


When complete the two banners will be split into two files, but for
now it is easier to work with one.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Document Freedom Day banner on our website

2011-02-22 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 23/feb/2011, at 03:30, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:

 Italo, Google and Oracle show as sponsors. It would be nice if we could get 
 on to the sponsor page.

Working on this subject as well.
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