Re: [libreoffice-website] Upcoming change to macOS downloads in 24.8

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Martin, *,

On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 8:51 AM Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:
>
> Would it be possible to keep building the lang packs with help AND ui 
> localizations (and the latter just overwrite the existing ones in the new 
> install) and also build an English only install dmg, just like now?
> So - all the lang pack that are being built now remain the same, just add an 
> all-in UI LO installer and en-US UI LO installer ...

What would be the point of that? That'd be confusing as heck for a
user looking for a download, wouldn't it?
Your suggestion only makes sense if there are strong arguments against
the all-UI-langs package. And also against the "compromise" to have a
cleanup-script/instructions on how to remove unneeded translations to
reclaim diskspace.

As someone would have to create multiple versions of installsets and
manage those on mirrors, I'd obviously not be happy with having to
offer both styles, and even as an end-user I don't really see the
point.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Upcoming change to macOS downloads in 24.8

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Patrick, *,

On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 2:48 AM Patrick Luby  wrote:
>
> Current installer - Built master with the following commented-out 
> autogen.input lines:
>#--without-helppack-integration
>#--with-lang=ALL
> Proposed installer - Built master with the proposed change’s patch and with 
> the following autogen.input lines:
>--without-helppack-integration
>--with-lang=ALL

you're omitting dictionaries/writing aids here, and those are the biggest chunk

> This resulted in the following installation sizes:
>1809 MB  Current installer
>2030 MB  Proposed installer
>
> That’s an increase in disk usage of approximately 221 MB.

Size of all dictionaries/writing aids is 422MB already, and all .mo
files are 243MB, so your numbers aren't really plausible..

And to stress it: not saying that is a bad change.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Upcoming change to macOS downloads in 24.8

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Patrick, *,

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 8:57 PM Patrick Luby  wrote:
>
> It’s great to hear that this upcoming change is feasible.

Be ready for some pushback from a handful users though - while on
Windows every UI language is included in the installer, only the
language matching the Windows' UI language is installed by
default/others have to be selected manually in custom setup (and also
have option to pick individual dictionaries/writing aids.
But mac users will get everything installed, and since macs generally
have only little storage in their base configurations, some users
might be vocal about "wasting their diskspace"

Certainly not a problem in itself, after all the appstore version also
is just as large/includes all languages already - it is just that
you'll only hear from those who are "annoyed" and not from those who
don't care or are happy about the changes.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Upcoming change to macOS downloads in 24.8

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Patrick, *,

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 4:01 PM Patrick Luby  wrote:
> […]
>   https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/163158
>
> With the above patch, the macOS installation set will look like the following:
>
> - The main installer will include UI localizations for all languages but no 
> local help
> - The language packs will be replaced with help packs
>
> So, the reason I am writing is I assume that the download page will need to 
> be modified. Questions:
>
> 1. Is it feasible to copy the Windows download page layout for only 24.8 and 
> later?

That will be handled "automagically" by the website if the naming
scheme will be consistent with Windows, it will recognize it as main
installer + helppack and add corresponding download buttons for the
help instead of the langaugepack for 24.8 and will use the langpack
buttons for the older releases.

> 2. Is there any way that I can help implement any necessary modifications?

The only thing necessary is that the filenames of the generated
packages then are
LibreOffice[Dev]__MacOS__helppack_.dmg instead of
LibreOffice[Dev]__MacOS__langpack_.dmg

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Download page

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Annabelle, *,



Annabelle Wübbelsmann  schrieb am Mo., 28. Aug. 2023,
11:09:

> Hi,
>
> on the download page
>
> https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download-libreoffice/
>
> in the section "Operating Systems" there are two entries for Windows.
>
> 1. Windows
> 2. Windows x86_64 (Windows 7 or newer required)
>
> Shouldn't the first one named like "Windows x86 (Windows 7 or newer
> required)"?
>

Yeah, I guess we can switch that to read Windows (32bit) and Windows
(64bit)..

Ciao
Christian

>

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Italian translation of LO website - is something stuck?

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Emiliano, *,

On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 10:33 PM Emiliano Vavassori
 wrote:
> Il 19/05/23 12:13, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:
> […]
> > To have translated sidebar buttons you
> > need to provide translated content in silverstipe backend on the
> > download page.
> > the "Sidebar Button" field labeled "Sidebar buttons, see
> > https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1023; the ticket shows
> > sample syntax
>
> Thanks for the information. I will involve the translation group on this
> specific snippet and get back to the list/to you in private when ready.

No need for me here - it is treated as regular page content, so just
saving the file in the backend will do the trick.
(if the content box is empty, it defaults to the English sidebar, if
there is content, that will be used instead - there's no need to use
the button style, but since the css/html for that might not be obvious
the sample syntax for those is provided in the redmine ticket)

> > but for some
> > reason the exported files on the website server do not have the string
> > for italian (but for a couple of others)
>
> In the meantime Marina did a quick check for other languages and it
> seems Italian is indeed not the only one (for sure we know of partial
> translations on Spanish, French and Chinese zh-cn). But I am sure you
> have a better understanding of its impact as of now.

While I don't know exactly why the strings were missing, at least now
the export did work as expected.

> > Not problems like that - the translations aren't synced regularly
> > (then again strings also change very rarely), but I was not aware of
> > incomplete transfer of strings.
>
> Yeah, well, it doesn't make sense to check each week for translations,
> indeed. I hoped there was a simple, less manual way to deal with it, but
> no need for it if complicates too much and doesn't give much of an
> advantage.

When I write manual it is not so bad as having to copy each string
manually, but to do some cleanup of the files. For example remove
entries with no/empty translation so that the content will not just
disappear and similar stuff.

And the strings completely missing from the old export/showing up in
only some just has been not reported/missed earlier - Last time when
German team mentioned the missing GPG strings I naturally only focused
on them, and those were there...
So automated mechanism wouldn't really have helped here.

> […]
> Is there an easy way to recognize which parts are still managed in
> Silverstripe and the ones that are in Weblate, apart of the obvious
> "check in Weblate, if the string is not there then it is managed in
> Silverstripe"?

It can be summarized as such: If it is not a simple page type, but for
example a page of type DownloadPage or DonatePage, then chances are
high that large parts of those come from weblate/are autogenerated.
everything else is is in silverstripe directly

> Do you think it is feasible to have some backups for that work and/or a
> responsible person on each NLP, that are able to verify and in case
> deploy modifications to the website or it will be mostly
> useless/painful? I think the Italian NLP project already had someone,
> but I think he is not so much present anymore.

If you mean people maintaining localized websites? Nope, no fallback
for those, and I guess having the pages handled automatically / not
having an incentive to log in to the site to update it for each
release along with the content of the English page also not changing
often/at all didn't help in having active people. Basically you only
have to create a localized page once, and then don't have to care
anymore...
If you mean backups of the translations: weblate stores them in a git
repository.

> With "Git managed site" you meant similar to what happens/have happened
> with TDF website (so based on Hugo)? Is there any foreseeable time-span
> in which you think that could land?

Yes, so far the development on the sample site has been done with
hugo, but I currently don't know a concrete date, but I'd certainly
hope it will be completed this year/in the next months.

> >> What's the expected workflow around
> >> updating NLP pages?
> >
> > That's still manual, introducing new strings into the system would
> > require manual update of the strings that are available in weblate,
> > and then exporting strings from weblate to silverstripe is also manual
> > since the yaml file needs to meet certain formatting standards/cannot
> > be used directly.
>
> Ah, that's quite a bummer - but I guess it is something we can live with
> for as long as needed to move to a new platform, also given the low
> frequency of the task.

Yes, and as written above: the steps are manual, but not overly
complex... A

Re: [libreoffice-website] Please publish my new Extension release PicTool 0.0.9

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Kai,

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 11:29 AM Kai Struck  wrote:
>
> Thank you very much!

Access to the extensions should be restored again, sorry for the inconvenience.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Italian translation of LO website - is something stuck?

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 12:13 PM Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> […]
> I think it might have been a bug in one of weblate's dependencies that
> got updated meanwhile, at least when I export the italian website file
> now I get the DonateTimeHeader string...

FYI: update the live site with the translations from weblate and from
what I can see it worked as expected this time/brought over all
translations from weblate. (that the german legal text is not
translated on the donate text also is by design, that's why a
placeholder is used for that in the string)

As for Hugo: similar translation system will likely be used for the
download page and donate pages - just makes sense to have translation
mechanism for automatically generated pages.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Italian translation of LO website - is something stuck?

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Emiliano, *,

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 10:40 PM Emiliano Vavassori
 wrote:
>
> It has been brought to my attention by Italian NLP leaders that the
> LibreOffice website, when viewed in Italian, breaks on translations (for
> example, check out what happens on the download page in italian [1]; the
> right-sided buttons are not translated and I see their values are in the
> HTML code not translated.

That is expected/by design. To have translated sidebar buttons you
need to provide translated content in silverstipe backend on the
download page.
the "Sidebar Button" field labeled "Sidebar buttons, see
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1023; the ticket shows
sample syntax

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> Or the donations page [2]: the second part of
> the page is not translated at all). This seems to be a long standing
> problem (probably years) and we would like to ascertain there is no
> misunderstanding in the understanding between TDF and the volunteers, here.

Oh, should not have been a problem for years. Maybe a problem years
back when the strings were added to the website but were not available
on weblate, but that's long fixed since then.

> Translators affirm that the untranslated parts of the website are indeed
> available and translated inside Weblate. I honestly cannot judge if this
> is true or not ATM, but it is quite evident there are some not
> particularly nice partial translations there.

I can confirm that e.g the donateyour time string is translated in
weblate (and while a recent change was done only a few days ago for
italian, it already was translated prior to that) - but for some
reason the exported files on the website server do not have the string
for italian (but for a couple of others)

> Are you aware of any issues in applying new translation efforts on the
> website?

Not problems like that - the translations aren't synced regularly
(then again strings also change very rarely), but I was not aware of
incomplete transfer of strings.

> Is Weblate the right tool to source for website translations,
> then, or this is still Silverstripe?

A clear "it depends" (see above) - some parts are translated in
weblate (mostly the static downlaod page and donate page strings), but
other parts like project-specific stuff like sidebar buttons where
each NL project might have different coverage/focus is done in
silverstripe.

And honestly the migration to new website took/takes longer than
expected, it was already decided long ago that the website system will
change to the git managed site, so no real work was done on the old
site..

> What's the expected workflow around
> updating NLP pages? Does the same issue occur also on other NLP
> projects' websites? Is there an automation pipeline to get newer
> translations applied directly from Weblate to the NLP-specific website
> or it is still manual work?

That's still manual, introducing new strings into the system would
require manual update of the strings that are available in weblate,
and then exporting strings from weblate to silverstripe is also manual
since the yaml file needs to meet certain formatting standards/cannot
be used directly.

I think it might have been a bug in one of weblate's dependencies that
got updated meanwhile, at least when I export the italian website file
now I get the DonateTimeHeader string...

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslatable string on website

[Christian Lohmaier]

HI Annabelle, *,

On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:10 PM Annabelle Wübbelsmann  wrote:
> The string has translated in weblate five mounts ago, but on the website
> it is still no translated. Is there a problem with it?

Some problems with different expectations of the details of the file
format between the yaml that weblate creates and the yaml that the
website expects - but should be solved now, the strings are finally
active on the site.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Untranslatable string on website

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Annabelle, *,

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 10:01 AM Annabelle Wübbelsmann  wrote:
>
> are there some news to this topic?

Ups, forgot about that one since it wasn't a simple change but needed
some minor reshuffling first to fit into a translatable string, but it
is now available in weblate.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: INFRA: download server/mirror brain down atm.

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:54 AM Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
>>
> our mirrorbrain vm is having issues, download.documentfoundation.org is down.
> watch https://status.documentfoundation.org/ or #tdf-infra on irc for
> updates on the topic.

FYI: should be fully operational again. If you still experience
trouble, please mail hostmas...@documentfoundation.org or join
#tdf-infra on IRC...

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] INFRA: download server/mirror brain down atm.

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

our mirrorbrain vm is having issues, download.documentfoundation.org is down.
watch https://status.documentfoundation.org/ or #tdf-infra on irc for
updates on the topic.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Using the new design for the LibreOffice Persian website

[Christian Lohmaier]

HI Hossein, *,

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 7:01 PM Hossein Noorikhah  wrote:
> We have completed the translation of the strings for the new design of the
> website into Persian:
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/website/newdesign/fa/
> So I think it is great to have the new design activated for Persian.
> https://fa.libreoffice.org/

Note that only some of the automatically generated elements of the
site are translated in weblate, the main portion of a site would need
to be created in the CMS as free-form text content.

So if you don't already have an account on TDF SSO, please create one
and then you can use that user to login to
https://www.libreoffice.org/admin - then please poke to have your
silverstripe (user that is created automatically) granted the
permissions to edit the Farsi/Persian site. It is populated with a
skeleton of the English site, but feel free to completely cut that
down to only relevant information.

> There are two issues remaining:
>
> 1. TDF weblate admins should kindly add Persian as a new language in the
> website extensions translation, so we can translate it:
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/new-lang/website/extensions/

Done. Idea was to have l10n team leaders be able to do do that
themselves for the non-LibreOffice core projects where there are
hundreds of files), but our group/role layout doesn't contain the
necessary permission for that ..

> 2. Persian/Farsi is an RTL language, so there should be some design changes
> to the website template so that it supports RTL languages. Many things
> should be mirrored, including the position of the logo on the top left; It
> should be moved to the right of the page. Is there a git repo for the theme?

the templates are in
https://github.com/tdf/newdesign_wip/tree/master/themes/libreofficenew
- however we're in the process of redesigning the site completely, so
probably not worth spending too much effort into adding proper RTL
support into the existing mess

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Change the Japanese website download page translation

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Shinji,

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 9:59 PM Shinji Enoki  wrote:
>
> At Weblate, I think the translation of the Web into Japanese has been 
> completed.
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/website/newdesign/ja/
>
> However, when I check the website, there are some untranslated
> strings, such as the version description.

Yes, the files are not automatically synced - weblate creates slightly
differently formatted yaml that silverstripe's parser doesn't like, so
there is a little cleanup required/updating is a manual process.

> Is the description of each version managed by weblate? Or is it
> managed in a different way?

The description lines are per codeline, not updated for each individual version.

> I think this page doesn't seem to be managed by Silvertripe.

It is managed by Silverstripe, but automatically filled based on what
downloads are available, so only parts of the page are edited in the
CMS-backend (like sidebar and other elements), the rest is assembled
by Silverstripe and translated using the yaml files (and translation
is done in weblate)

> Could you fix this issue?

Done now, sorry for late reply.

> Or what should we do?

To translate the entries in the sidebar area: add corresponding
translated entries into the page content in the /admin/pages area of
the site. If nothing is specified, it will use the English default.

ciao
Christain

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Re: [libreoffice-website] "Necesita otro idioma" link is broken on ES Download page

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Rainer, *,

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:49 PM Rainer Bielefeld
 wrote:
> Christian Lohmaier schrieb:
> > Can you still reproduce it?
>
> for me on
> <https://es.libreoffice.org/descarga/libreoffice/>
> the hyperlinks with red highlighting
> <https://imgur.com/KRyacdY>
> do not work.

Ah, so that's just some broken static links someone added, I only was
looking at the automatically generated parts (the links in the framed
download box in the center).

Fixed those (removed the other OS one, since there's no separate page,
but rather the dropdown selection only)..
Thx a lot

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] "Necesita otro idioma" link is broken on ES Download page

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Marc,

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 3:50 PM Marc Paré  wrote:
>
> FYI, the "Necesita otro idioma" link on the Spanish page
> [https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?type=rpm-x86_64=7.1.0=es]
> is broken and leads to nowhere. It should lead to the languages page
> here
> [https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/?type=rpm-x86_64=7.1.0=pick].

Can you still reproduce it?
https://es.libreoffice.org/descarga/libreoffice/?type=rpm-x86_64=7.1.0=pick
works fine for me...

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: ANN: weblate update this weekend (start on Fri evening)

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 8:03 PM Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:

> I'll update our instance of weblate to the latest 4.4 version this
> weekend, starting Friday evening. There'll be a multi-hour downtime
> since one of the updates require larger database operations.

The update to 4.4. is complete and the components have been unlocked again.

> After the update is complete, I'll also create the 7-1 projects and
> update master templates accordingly.

Creation of the 7-1 projects has been triggered, but fully
indexing/adding is still in progress.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] ANN: weblate update this weekend (start on Fri evening)

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

I'll update our instance of weblate to the latest 4.4 version this
weekend, starting Friday evening. There'll be a multi-hour downtime
since one of the updates require larger database operations.

The updatepath (4.1.1 we use currently → 4.2.2 → 4.3.3 (that step is
the one that takes a while) → 4.4 is being tested on a separate
testing VM with a much smaller dataset to keep times in check.

Components will be locked during that time, so no translation is
possible during the whole process.

Weblate should be available for translation again on Saturday.

After the update is complete, I'll also create the 7-1 projects and
update master templates accordingly.

(I'll send another message when everything is done)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] The Document Foundation Mirrors - outdated list

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Rainer,

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 6:29 PM Rainer Bielefeld
 wrote:
>
> I found this list:
> 
>
> If it's really required, it should be updated,

It is constantly updated, of course it uses what we have in our mirror
database, so it can happen from time to time that some URLs change/are
no longer valid or having temporary issues - that being said…

> currently it contains
> several invalid hyperlinks, see
>  on OnlyOffice.
> Links with problems are highlighted red or yellow, ones with grey
> highlighting have not been tested.

… whatever tool you used to check those links doesn't know what to do
with rsync URLs - you flagged all of the rsync ones with red…

> And there should be a hint "last edited -mm-dd", so that visitors
> can assess how reliable information on the page might be.

Broken link is a broken link, no timestamping will change that.

Anyway, we'll check with mirror admins for the broken links and
fix/remove the broken links in the next weeks.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Contributing a template for the LO template/extension site - how?

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Drew, *,

On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 11:42 PM Drew Jensen  wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> Pretty much the subject line is the entire email.
>
> I have a template, pretty much ready, to offer and don't know how to do that.

https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/using-this-site-as-an-extension-maintainer

HTH,
ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] new extensions site hooked up to SSO -ready to use the backend

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:39 AM Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:10 PM Christian Lohmaier
>  wrote:
> > […]
> > Unless we hear from fundamental problems, the plan is to switch
> > instances/the dns over in the next days.
>
> Headsup: Since there were no major concerns, we'll go ahead and do the
> switchover tomorrow.
>
> (we'll add corresponding rewrites to the URLs so that old URLs to the
> extensions will continue to work on the new site)

as you might have noticed, the site is now live - the switch was
delayed because of the DSGVO concerns that were raised.. Shortly after
the switchover overager rewrite rules broke search and some URLs were
not working as they were supposed to, but those had been fixed shortly
after...

As for the submissions that were done on the old site after the
extensions were imported to the new site: Those will be transferred in
the next few days.

I'm sure people will now start to give their feedback, and there are
already some additional improvements queued. The new basis makes it
easier to iterate faster and do little tweaks along the way.

ciao
Christian

ciao
Chrisitan

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Re: [libreoffice-website] new extensions site hooked up to SSO -ready to use the backend

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:10 PM Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> […]
> Unless we hear from fundamental problems, the plan is to switch
> instances/the dns over in the next days.

Headsup: Since there were no major concerns, we'll go ahead and do the
switchover tomorrow.

(we'll add corresponding rewrites to the URLs so that old URLs to the
extensions will continue to work on the new site)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] New extensions and templates website for testing

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Stephan, *,

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:41 AM Stephan Bergmann  wrote:
> An extension like
>  has a
> "Release List" section with a table where one column is labeled
> "Compatibility" (listing "3.3" for Release 1.0.0 in the case of the
> extension mentioned earlier).
>
> * What is the meaning of that compatibility entry?  (Is it e.g. the
> minimum or the maximum version of LO that the extension is compatible with?)

That's minimum version of LibreOffice the extension is compatible with

> * How does the information presented there relate to an extension's
> dependencies

It currently doesn't - the way it works was taken from the old
instance, aka the maintainer of an extension specifies the version, it
is not read from the extension itself/cannot tell from that listing
what kind of parameter is used in the extension.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] new extensions site hooked up to SSO -ready to use the backend

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

following up to the previous update
http://go.mail-archive.com/quukPZ168NyXVOhU49titYsW2u8=

we can announce that the site is now open for use with TDF's single-sign on.

Some more detailed instructions on how to use the backend are documented
here:
https://vm135.documentfoundation.org/en/using-this-site-as-an-extension-maintainer

Unless we hear from fundamental problems, the plan is to switch
instances/the dns over in the next days.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] TDF Jitsi instance issues with 20+ people

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Emiliano, *,

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 2:49 PM Emiliano Vavassori
 wrote:
> Il 13/03/20 16:22, Florian Effenberger ha scritto:
> > Disabling video did not help.
>
> I don't know if that can help, but what came to my mind is that the
> default settings for video in Jitsi is HD. Since there are no specific
> options for the audio, I would expect that this quality settings could
> have some impacts on the audio part of the stream as well. Decreasing
> audio quality a bit shouldn't be an issue.

We had a little loadtest today to get some more insights (thanks to
all who joined in!) - and the issue we discovered is not load on the
server (at least not with the increased resources assigned to the VM)
or the server's bandwidth, but rather the load on the client machines
with many participants.

Android app didn't cope at all, and I got the stretched audio and huge
delays and unresponsive UI. On laptop with one instance connected in
chrome, and another one in firefox it didn't affect my listening
experience, but there were audio-problems when I was talking -
CPU-load on the laptop was maxed out, and after closing the firefox
instance others could hear me again without artifacts. So that is in
line with Drew's feedback - as long as your machine can keep up, you
should not have any problems hearing others. And when it is just at
the edge of managing the load, it is the sending that causes problems
first.

> […]
> > I'd propose
> > - assinging more resources to the VM -> Cloph, can you have a look?

Done - machine has now double the vcpus compared to before and didn't
max out during our testing today, so while it might have been tight in
the last meeting, it should not be a problem with future ones.

> > - finding out if there was any major spike in traffic on the VM recently
> > -> also Cloph, can you have a look?

Today's test also involved using video streams (while still waiting
for more participants to join) - and network traffic stayed below
200Mbps outgoing for the VM, and other VMs on the same hypervisor also
didn't have much outgoing traffic, so we're well within Gigabit
connectivity limits

> > - have a fallback plan to have a proper meeting
>
> That's the difficult part.

Yeah, that's a little tricky.. :-) So current recommendations to
reduce load on your system:
* Avoid android app when joining call with many participants - the
app/your phone likely won't be able to cope.
* Use audio-only mode, don't send any video streams and don't request
any video streams
  This can be done by using Settings → Manage Video Quality and
picking [x] low bandwidth or by joining with
  
https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/meetingroomname#config.startAudioOnly=true

Smaller improvements can be had by not using grid view, but the
default with the strip at the side, and likely by hiding the list of
participants.
People having connection issues should monitor their local system
resource usage/whether CPUs are maxed out and the problems are caused
by that.

> Now back to my findings. I've invested some hours of my time (and I will
> do again this afternoon, if possible) on learning more on Jitsi and its
> guts. My primary source of information at the moment are this video:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj8a6ZRgehI
>
> And the documentation bits on the GitHub project:
> https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet
>
> My first take on this is that cascading (in the sense of deploying
> multiple servers in different parts of the world) would not solve the
> participants number issue per se;

Yes - as far as my understanding of the problem is so far: won't help
for single meetings with lots of participants. Is more suitable for
achieving lower latency in regional meetings meetings - but once
people from different regions join that benefit is gone – or to scale
up for lots of simultaneous meetings with few people.

> We have already pointed out the two most probable source of bottlenecks:
> * Network
> * CPU

yep, but looks like those seem to be a problem on the client :-)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Dutch download pages wrong way around

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Martijn, *,

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 2:23 PM Martijn Dekker  wrote:
>
> The download pages for the Dutch version are the wrong way around: Fresh
> offers the Still version (6.2.8), and Still offers the Fresh version
> (6.3.3).
>
> https://nl.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fris/
> https://nl.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-rustig/

Changed that now - btw: that is the "Codeline to show on this page"
setting when using the split design variants.
If you want to switch to the newstyle where both are displayed
simultaneously, set the version code to 999

Also the portable download page wasn't updated in ages - there the
shortcode also needs updating for the codeline.
(And NL-projects are fee to only link to the language variant that
includes their language, no need to link to both - only difference is
set of languages included)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please enable static strings from Pootle

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Michael,

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 7:52 PM Michael Wolf  wrote:
> Christian Lohmaier schrieb:
>
> But, wonders never cease! It works for both hsb and dsb now! I used 999
> now, 9.9 did not work and 999 initially, either.

> But still two questions remain: There is a one string in English on the
> download page:
>
> 1. "Key management software for the new OpenPGP feature (external site)"
>
> "Key management software" is a link. Where can I translate it? It seems
> to be new because it is in English on German website as well.

Ah, those are hardcoded still - somehow overlooked those.

> 2. The website shows still two download sites. It should be **one**
> download page.

If you want to keep the old sites around to not break links, you can
turn them into a redirector page.
(On Settings tab when viewing a page).
So switch to Redirector page and pick your main download page.
Or just unpublish and remove from staging area to completely delete the page.

> And finally, the Donate page must still be in new style.

Delays in build for 6.3.0 alpha/6.2.4 pushed that back, sorry for that.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please enable static strings from Pootle

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Michael,

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 11:42 PM Michael Wolf  wrote:
>
> There is a link to a helppack on Sorbian download pages: "English
> fallback". It leads to the English helppack as fallback because there is
> no Sorbian help until now. Is it possible to link to the German helppack
> instead?

Is possible, what should the label be for that?

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please enable static strings from Pootle

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Michael, *,

On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:48 PM Michael Wolf  wrote:
>
> Christian Lohmaier schrieb:
> > a) How to get new-style download page:
> >Answer:  Specify "999" as Codeline to show, that should display the
> > newstyle one.
>
>
> as it has become apparent now that hsb and dsb still use oldstyle
> download page: What does it mean "Specify "999" as Codeline to show"?

In the backend, on the main Content tab, there's an entry box for
"codeline to offer on this page (major.minor)" - below the ones for
navigation label and subtitle.

When you use the special value 999 it will use the newstyle pages,
otherwise it will use the split pages (see other mail)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please enable static strings from Pootle

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Michael, *,

On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 11:28 AM Michael Wolf  wrote:
> > To answer a couple of questions:
> > a) How to get new-style download page:
> >Answer:  Specify "999" as Codeline to show, that should display the
> > newstyle one.
>
> I think I needn't do that. I assume that I already have the newstyle
> download pages:
>
> https://hsb.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-stable/
> https://hsb.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/
>
> or don't I?

Those variants are not what I was referring to as "newstyle" -
newstyle in this case refers to the combined download page that lists
both codelines on the same page, as is the case on
https://www.libreoffice.org/download

Nothing wrong with the separate style, however for those you need to
make sure you specify the correct codeline (in major.minor notation) -
both fresh and still (that is what is preferred over "stable", since
both fresh and still are considered "stable" in the usual meaning)
pages show the 6.2 line for hsb, since for nonexisting versions (that
doesn't match the "magic value" to request newstyle) it defaults to
the latest version, so you can keep the fresh page at 9.9, but the
still (in your case stable) one should be configured to show the 6.1
codeline at the moment.
Once 6.3.0 gets released, the stable should be changed to 6.2 codeline
(6.3.x then is fresh, 6.2. is stable, and 6.1 is EOL/obsolete then)

> > b) Sidebar content
> >
> > Sidebar labels are not part of the strings translatable in pootle, due
> > to the varoius links / different targets that NL-projects might use
> > instead of the default English ones.
>
> Hm, I don't know anything about it. Did Martin ask that? Do you jog my
> memory?

Oh, didn't reply to you specifically, but it was brought up in previous mails.

> >> still a question: There is a long text to the right of the new Donate
> >> page (see www.libreoffice.org/donate or, in German,
> >> de.libreoffice.org/donate).
> >
> > That's intentional, as it is the legal text that is not meant to be
> > translated. Feel free to not include the placeholder and instead point
> > to the German website instead.
>
> This issue is settled for me. I found the text on Silverstripe. It is
> already translated.

Might be a misunderstanding/Maybe I wasn't clear enough.
{germanlegaltext} placeholder in the translation string will be
replaced by the German text.

> > c) newstyle donate:
> >
> > Currently no user-configurable setting to switch between old and
> > newstyle, that's a whitelist in the backend. Will start rolling out to
> > newstyle for compatible currencies in the next days.
>
> For me this is the last task that should be still done for hsb and dsb.

OK, will switch tomorrow.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please enable static strings from Pootle

[Christian Lohmaier]

HI Michael, Martin, *,

Sorry, I didn't see the forest with all the trees in the way...

Now I finally got what strings are still lacking, expect them to show
up in pootle later today.

(stripe, amount, intermediate page)

ciao
Christian

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 3:02 PM Michael Wolf  wrote:
> […]
> Clicking the button "Mittels Kreditkarte spenden" an image gallery
> appears with English text.

That is not part of silversripe, but rendered by Stripe directly, so
not translatable, and part of the data-protection stuff... (i.e. TDF
never sees the donor's credit card details, they are only submitted to
Stripe)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please enable static strings from Pootle

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 2:43 PM Michael Wolf  wrote:

To answer a couple of questions:
a) How to get new-style download page:
  Answer:  Specify "999" as Codeline to show, that should display the
newstyle one.

b) Sidebar content

Sidebar labels are not part of the strings translatable in pootle, due
to the varoius links / different targets that NL-projects might use
instead of the default English ones.

So you get the English list of items when you didn't specify your own
in the "custom sidebar box"

> still a question: There is a long text to the right of the new Donate
> page (see www.libreoffice.org/donate or, in German,
> de.libreoffice.org/donate).

That's intentional, as it is the legal text that is not meant to be
translated. Feel free to not include the placeholder and instead point
to the German website instead.

c) newstyle donate:

Currently no user-configurable setting to switch between old and
newstyle, that's a whitelist in the backend. Will start rolling out to
newstyle for compatible currencies in the next days.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Tiny MCE strange behaviour

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Daniel,

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 5:15 PM Daniel A. Rodriguez
 wrote:
>
> I'm trying to add HTML code but the editor messes up.
> See https://i.postimg.cc/rmr0fDKz/20190421-114013.jpg

Would be easier to judge if you just pasted the whole text into email
or do a real screenshot.

> The code on the right is what I'm pasting into tiny mce through html
> option. And what you can seenon the left is what happens after trying to
> save it.

I think there's a tag mismatch somewhere, but hard to tell

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please enable static strings from Pootle

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 9:52 AM Florian Effenberger
 wrote:

> Cloph, is there any update? Did you manage to roll out the updates to
> Pootle on Saturday?

The remaining cut-off strings had been fixed (another error in the
po2yaml script that converts from pootle's po to the yaml files with
multiline strings) - but I forgot to flush the cache, so some of the
old truncated strings still were served.

Also today I added the few changed/added strings that were not
translatable so far on the donate-page to pootle.

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please enable static strings from Pootle

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Michael,

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 5:57 PM Michael Wolf  wrote:
>
> Partially translated content is not acceptable for a translator if he
> has already translated everything.

I think I found the issue - the po2yaml script seems to ignore all
strings that are split to multiple lines, so while the strings are in
the templates, and are indeed translated in pootle, the final file
that is added to silverstripe doesn't contain it.

I'll fix that tomorrow.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please enable static strings from Pootle

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Michael, *,

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:27 PM Michael Wolf  wrote:
>
> Thank you for your information. I'm very impatient now because I had to
> wait already more than two weeks up to now. And next week it will be
> more than three weeks then.

Sorry for the delay, but end of vacation this time did unfortunately
clash with some infra issues..
But I finally managed to add hsb and dsb to the Zend framework, so the
translations are now picked up.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Today's infra outage

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:46 AM Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> […]
> Unfortunately bugzilla's db had to be restored from backup, so not all
> comments/updates to bugs are reflected yet  (timeframe of ~11 hours
> between backup and begin of outage, around 80 updates) - they'll be
> restored from the mail notifications tomorrow.

Update on that: This also had been done now, except for a handful
issues that were created during the period (and where the id was
snatched from another bug that was filed after bugzilla was restored)
and that are being refiled right now.

ciao
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[libreoffice-website] Re: Today's infra outage

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:45 PM Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
>
> a small update on the infra outage today (affecting bugzilla and
> askbot mostly, and for some time also other services):

bugzilla and askbot have been restored.
Unfortunately bugzilla's db had to be restored from backup, so not all
comments/updates to bugs are reflected yet  (timeframe of ~11 hours
between backup and begin of outage, around 80 updates) - they'll be
restored from the mail notifications tomorrow.

ciao
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[libreoffice-website] Today's infra outage

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

a small update on the infra outage today (affecting bugzilla and
askbot mostly, and for some time also other services):

The cause has been identified (gluster's self-heal failed after a
hypervisor went down) and infra is working on restoring the remaining
services.
That might still take until later tonight to avoid creating further
inconsistencies..

keep an eye on
https://status.documentfoundation.org/ for further information and updates

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please enable static strings from Pootle

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Michael,
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:50 PM Michael Wolf  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to repeat my request: Please activate static strings from
> Pootle for dsb.libreoffice.org and hsb.libreoffice.org.

Ah, this is a little trickier than first thought - zend framework that
is used by silverstripe doesn't know about hsb/dsb, thus the langauge
files aren't picked up...

but working on it...

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Minutes from the Tue Sep 18 infra call

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

Guilhem Moulin  schrieb am Di., 18. Sep. 2018,
19:31:

> Participants
>
> [Cachet]
>+ TODO: subscribe IZBot to the feed. Can cachet push updates to it?
> Brett:
>  don't think so
>

IZbot can subscribe to RSS feeds, but burrently there's no plugin installed
that would accept remote triggers.
But since IZBot also is on TDF infra, it cannot pass on all outages ;)

Ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] l10n of LO website(s)

[Christian Lohmaier]

HI *,
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:00 PM Florian Effenberger
 wrote:
>
> this thread has been around for some months now and I didn't see further
> topics. From what I heard some items have been addressed in the
> meantime, but I wanted to check back if there are still pending obstacles.

Only things left are the stable and testing indicators on the
old-style download page (that is the type/classification as on the
download server, i.e. stable directory vs testing directory)
for that I'll add strings Donwload.ClassificationStable and
Download.ClassificationTesting.

and the issue with the subsitevirtualpages not allowing to have
localized title/lable. A ugly workaround would be to have the virtual
page hidden and to create a site-local virtual page that then has the
page from the other subsite as backend, but that's kinda ugly, I'll
check whether one can extend the SubsiteVirtualPage with a data
extension to have the title/navigation label translatable.

And what's left is how to deal with the footer / translations - the
suggestion to use the Privacy Policy (localized term for privacy
policy), Imprint (localized term for imprint) is easiest to keep
consistent, so I think that's the way to go. (So expect
Homepage.PrivacyPolicyLabel, Homepage.ImprintLabel, to appear this
week)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Language not "picked" correctly

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Tim,
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 3:35 PM Tim-L  wrote:
>
> I am currently using Ubuntu 18.04 - - Language - en_US.UTF-8(en_US)

Note that the download page can only look at your browser's langauge settings.
>
> When I go to the download page for the newest LO version 6.0.4 x86_64
> (deb)  I keep getting the English (GB) version files.

So if you indeed configured your browser's langauge preferences to
list en-US before en-GB, please go to the download page and let it
display the page source, at around line 120 or so there's the
user-agent info and langauge settings that the site uses to determine
a matching download candidate.

Paste that debug info and we can see whether it's possible to adjust &
improve the detection.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: planet.documentfoundation.org

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Mike,

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Mike Saunders
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can someone with admin rights for planet.documentfoundation.org please
> add Andreas' blog?

Ah, read twice - as he already is added - he wants the URL changed, so can do...

Although not a requirement to limit yourself to LO only on planet..

ciao
Christian

>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:planet.documentfoundation.org
> Date:   Wed, 23 May 2018 00:26:19 +0200
> From:   kainz.a 
> To: i...@documentfoundation.org
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to add my new and LibreOffice only blog to the planet:
>
> https://colibreoffice.wordpress.com/
>
> in my other blog post (http://kdeonlinux.wordpress.com/) which is
> already linked to the LibreOffice planet, I also post kde specific stuff
> so I would prefer to have only the colibreoffice.wordpress blog linked
> to the planet.
>
> thanks
> Andreas Kainz
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] l10n of LO website(s)

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Martin, *,

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As always I am writing this with best intentions for LO; so: I would like
> to point to some problems regarding the l10n of the official LO website(s).
>
> 1) There is a new (or updated) string on the download page(s), that is not
> localizable:
> "Older versions of LibreOffice (may be unsupported!) are available in the
> archive" 
> It should be added to pootle to be localized ASAP.

True - that was added recently, and will be added to pootle later
today or tomorrow.

> 2) The new download page is only available on the English page and still
> not localizable or available to l10n sites and in Pootle;

Also true - we wanted to sort out bugs in terms of usability with that
one first, finalize on the design before deploying it to others.

And while I mightnot have replied to your post in particular, I'm
pretty sure that has been stated in the past already.

> 3) Since 2) we are stuck with "old" download page that has only one version
> so we duplicate this page for both stable and fresh downloads; but there is
> a caveat: the substring " (stable)" is present on both pages,

Both are stable versions as opposed to the development/pre-release
ones (AKA beta/rc)

> so you can
> see how the "fresh" page looks now on the Slovenian and German sites (with
> word stable written in the title) - advertising the "fresh" version as the
> "stable" one:
> https://de.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/
> https://sl.libreoffice.org/prenosi/najnovejsi-libreoffice/

There is fresh and still, not fresh and stable

> 4) The donation page is also an old one, not available for l10n, so we have
> to use old donation page on l10n sites.
> I think this is the issue in redmine, there might be more:
> https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2462

Same reason basically as with the donate page, we wanted to run some
tests first to make sure it doesn't mess up with the donations that
pay all the bills...
I think we can have the strings of the donate page in pootle same time
as the one with the archive.

> 5) Someone deleted localized Slovenian pages for Imprint, Privacy Policy
> and Credits and replaced them with direct links to English pages, also they
> appear in the Slovenian menu as "Imprint", "Privacy Policy" and "Credits".

We need to make sure that all pages have current data - legal stuff is
annoying sometimes :/

> This was done without contacting me, the maintainer of the Slovenian site.

True, sorry for that. But unfortunately we have many nl-sites that are
rather stale, so we cannot wait for everyone in all cases.

> I understand legal issues with "Privacy Policy" that might have to be in
> English, but as editor of the Slovenian website I cannot allow menu items
> to be in English nor can I allow pages "Imprint" and "Credits" to appear in
> their content in English - please make these pages l10n-able ASAP as
> possible. For the time being I removed the "Credits" subpage from the menu
> and left the other two for legal issues.
> Also I want my localization strings back, I am the author, no one can
> delete my work - I need to reuse those strings.

There's history of previous versions in silverstripe, so no reason to
be all that upset about changing of pagetype. furthermore there is
waybackmachine or similar, that might also have your page indexed...

> 6) I really support this 3-year old ticket, it is essential for us l10n
> site maintainers:
> https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/901

We had something like this in the past and it wasn't really used, but
I'll look into that once more.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: cs website new design - Pootle strings

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Florian Effenberger
<flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> Raal wrote on 2018-01-15 at 17:28:
>
>> I would like to have Czech new website published in time in 6.0 release or
>> before - with or without translated donations page. Please, is it possible?

Sorry for not replying earlier - switched the site live over to
newdesign one last week.
If there are still issues, please make sure to poke again.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Infra call on Tue, Jan 16 at 17:30 UTC

[Christian Lohmaier]

HI *.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Guilhem Moulin
 wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 at 18:47:41 +0100, Guilhem Moulin wrote:
>> The next infra call will take place at `date -d 'Tue Jan 16 17:30:00 UTC 
>> 2018'`
>> (18:30:00 Berlin time).
>>
>> See https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/infra for details; agenda TBA.
>
> Reminder: that's tomorrow!

Sending such a statement just before midnight is kinda misleading :-)

Tuesday is *today* :-)

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: Localization in venice language of www.libreoffice.org

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Veneto ABC <veneto@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Christian Lohmaier,
>
> We have finished to localize the site in VEC.
> May you setup the DNS for "http://vec.libreoffice.org;, please?


Done. I took the liberty to actually point the downloadpage for fresh
to 5.4 and still to 5.3

And also update the portable version shortcode. Note that you don't
need to add both the reduced-langauge variant and the full language
one, you are free to point to only one of each.

ciao
Christian
(might still take a while until all DNS servers picked up the change)

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Re: [libreoffice-website] TDF website on mobile

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Florian Effenberger
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Brett Cornwall wrote on 2017-07-18 at 09:52:
>>
>> The main page has horizontal scrolling for me on Firefox for android as
>> well as LineageOS's Jelly browser. The Libreoffice and TDF logos
>> side-by-side are causing the overflow.

Seem you mean LibreOffice and Document Liberation logo..

> indeed!
> Italo, thanks for trying to fix it - can you poke Cloph for help with the
> error message and wear the hat on correcting the page?


Italo already did some changes to the page, and I added back the logos.

The current design is using explicit tables (eek!), changed that to
inline-block for the links/images, that allows them to reflow.

I'll leave the final review/publishing the draft to Italo

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Localization in venice language of www.libreoffice.org

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Veneto ABC  wrote:
> How much time is it necessary for the administrators to create the site and
> give me the operation? I need to publish at last part of the site for next
> weekend.

Was waiting for the list of people to grant access, as described at
the top of the wiki page Sophie linked to:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT

###
If you would like to have an area for your language (in the form of
http://XX.libreoffice.org where XX is your language code) on the
Silverstripe CMS, please:

request on the website mailing list the creation of a site and give
the name of it and the language code to use
in the same message,

list all members of your team that should have access to the admin
interface and give the e-mail address and a user name of all the
members in order to create an account for them
state whether to grant author or publisher right,
who to set as subsite admin(s). If none is specified, first one to
request the site will be entered as subsite admin, all others as
publisher.
###

anyway, created the subsite based on the italian one (i.e. copied the
structure of the italian site) - and for now the langauge is also set
to italian, as silverstripe doesn't now about vec yet

to edit login at https://www.libreoffice.org/admin with your email and
your password (triggered a password-reset link earlier today) and pick
Venetian NL project from the dropdown at the left if it isn't
automatically switching to that site.

Once you have some basic content there (you can switch between editing
and preview using the button at the lower right), the DNS can be
setup/the site made public.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] No Khmer website?

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Mike, *,

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Mike Saunders
 wrote:
>
> On this page: http://www.libreoffice.org/community/nlc/
>
> There's a link to the Khmer website: http://km.libreoffice.org
>
> But that just says "The requested page could not be found". Should we
> remove the link, or is the site being worked on?

Remove the link. While a subsite exists in silverstripe, only the
frontpage has been touched - and that back in 2015...
No localized/locale-specific content on there. (same for olddesign one
- touched three years ago and no locale-specific stuff)

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] odfauthors site down for maintenance/migration to different host

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi  *,

want to let you know that odfauthors site is down for moving to new host/vm.

Sorry for the late notice.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Slow LibreOffice downloads from mirrors

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Mike,

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Mike Saunders
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> TDF got an email from someone in Germany, complaining about very slow
> downloads of LO 5.3. This was also posted on Facebook:
>
> "I am trying to download the latest version. But the speed of download
> is very low. Have more people the same problem."
>
> Any thoughts on what should be the cause? I've tried asking which
> particular mirrors are affected and will report back when I get some info...

Unless we know the specific mirror: no.
Download wasn't slow for me, but then again
download.documentfoundatino.org / mirrorbrain will redirect to a
random mirror serving the region of the user.

Might be that a wrong geo-ip listing make mirrorbrain pick a mirror
from another country, might be that indeed one of the mirrors in
Germany is slow (but typically they are very powerfull, at least for
VDSL users in Germany they'll always manage to saturate the downstream
bandwidth)

So we need the concrete mirror, and if it didn't pick a mirror from
the expected region, also the IP.
You can also tell the affected people to append .mirrorlist to the
download.documentfoundation.org URL / use the "info" link on the
download page to manually pick a mirror.

e.g. 
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/5.3.1/win/x86/LibreOffice_5.3.1_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist

Note that there was a hiccup that resulted in only a tiny fraction of
the mirrors being listed, causing too much load on the remaining ones.

The remaining mirrors should pop up in the next minutes.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] New download page -how to localize?

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

At the moment it is limited to the main site/no translation possible at
this point. Version 9.9 can now be used though as convenience method to
always correspond to the latest version.

Ciao
Christian

"Luca Daghino"@Libero  schrieb am Sa., 04.02.2017,
1:44:

> Hello,
> Any website admin could explain how to recreate the new download page on
> NL sites?
> I just tried but I can't see any particular download page to create;
> also adding the 9.9 version (as on the main site) doesn't work...
> Any hidden code somewhere?
> Thank you! :)
>
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Re: [libreoffice-website] missing language on the website

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Marina, *,

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Marina Latini
 wrote:
> Hi all,
> from LibreOffice 5.2.4 we have the VEC localization available but,
> although the package is available in the repo, the VEC language isn't
> listed here[0]
>
> [0] http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?lang=pick

Thanks, fixed, although not sure about the native term

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Error on site

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Hi *,

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Florian Effenberger
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Rob Westein wrote on 2016-09-22 at 07:31:
>>
>> I guess I do not have the authorisation to see & modify these parameters.

Those are auto-generated on what is still available on the mirrors -
so the bug was not that 5.2.0 was still listed, but that 5.2.1 was
not.
Fixed that.

ciao
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[libreoffice-website] Reminder: Monthly Infra call tomorrow 18:00 UTC - with poll to find a new timeslot

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi,

as reminder:

the next regular infra call will take place tomorrow, Wednesday, Sep
21st, 1800 UTC.

For details and a preliminary agenda, please see:
https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/infra

As attendance in previous calls has been poor, and at least some
people mentioned scheduling conflicts as the reason, there's now a
poll for a new timeslot:

http://doodle.com/poll/7agdzx4xux4yzsk9

Please make sure to at least block out the  slots where you can not
attend at all, so  at least you have the *chance* of dialing in.

And of course feel free to add your own agenda items!
The call is not limited to infrastructure administrators, but to the
whole LO community. So if you  want something discussed, add it to the
agenda in the pad linked to above (ok if you cannot attend yourself,
but then provide a little background info as well please)

Ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Bugzilla: Software error: Can't connect to database"

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Thomas, *,

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Thomas Hackert  wrote:
> Hello @ll,
> while trying to search for a bug in Bugzilla, I am getting the
> following error message:
> 
> Software error:
>
> Can't connect to the database.
> Error: FATAL:  the database system is starting up
> FATAL:  the database system is starting up
>   Is your database installed and up and running?
>   Do you have the correct username and password selected in
> localconfig?
>
> Steps to reproduce:
> - Just go to https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/
> You will immediately see the above mentioned error message ... :( I

Yeah, and in fact the VM  was restarted at the point - so the "Fatal"
error was that the database was in fact still initializing,
You shouldn't have gotten t he message all the time from 9am til the
afternoon. Once in the morning, once in the afternoon, but not all the
time in between). So sure you weren't getting a cached copy of the
error page only? Or you just had good timing :-)

Anyway, the shuffling around has an end now, and from what I can tell
all services (including askbot that was part of the problem) have been
run smoothly since last night/today.

If you still experience problems, please let us know right as you hit
them, preferably with also a quick ping in #tdf-infra channel on
freenode.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Web Developer

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Nicolò, *,

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 3:12 PM, nicolò altamura  wrote:
> Dear Web Team of The Document Foundation,

Sorry for the late response, we have been quite busy with some
restructuring of our infra and some personal reorga...

> My skills are: English Language, HTML, CSS, JS, C and others.
> I said others because I'm learning a lot of language (included php,
> C++ ).

That's nice to hear :-)
For the main website, we're usinng silverstripe, which is php based
backend with a typical templating language that is rather simple to
work with (the usual control structures to hook into the variables,
everything that is not a control statement is just output as it is
written).

> It would be an honor to participate in this team.
> I hope you enjoy me!
> Thanks for all :)
>
> PS: I saw some bugs on your mobile layout, but great work with libreoffice

Oh, we'd love to hear about those bugs, and even more so if you could
provide a fix to that layout :-)

The css surely has room for improvement, so it would be great if you
could help out with that.
https://github.com/tdf/newdesign_wip/tree/master/themes/libreofficenew
is where the code for the templates lives. (note that it includes
stuff that is not actually used, so probably the more foolproof
apporach is to just load a page and see what's included and tweak
that.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Forum Intermittent Access

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Florian Effenberger
<flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2016-08-17 at 17:10:
>>
>> The reason was a problem with the database index, it should be
>> recovered now and back in action.
>
> thanks a lot for jumping in and looking into it, much appreciated! However,
> it looks as if the site is down again - any idea what's happening? Do we
> have a general load problem maybe?

Tweaked the database settings, should be snappier again, although
there's still is some problem. (re)starting postgresql seems to take
forever and a day...

ciao
Christain

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Forum Intermittent Access

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Florian, *,

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Florian Effenberger
<flo...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> peterwt wrote on 2016-08-17 at 11:24:
>>
>> I spoke too soon - https://ask.libreoffice.org is down again now.
>
>
> indeed - I tried to logon, seems the load is quite high.
> Cloph, any idea what the culprit might be, is there lots of load on the
> hypervisor?

The reason was a problem with the database index, it should be
recovered now and back in action.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Reminder: Monthly Infra call tomorrow (each month, 3rd Wednesday, 18:00 UTC)

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi,

as reminder:

the next regular infra call will take place tomorrow, Wednesday, Aug
17, 1800 UTC.

For details and a preliminary agenda, please see:
https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/infra

Topics this weeks include the reasons for the the hiccups that occured
in the last days and short overview of hypervisor/virtualization
framework used.

Feel free to add your own agenda items!

Ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] End of Gmane

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
 wrote:
>
> Gmane website is stopped :
> https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/

https://www.mail-archive.com/gossip@mail-archive.com/msg01537.html

Jeff Breidenbach (admin of mail-archive.com) writes:
"[…]
I don't know exactly what the change will be, but The Mail Archive
will do anything we can to help. I've contacted Lars and made that
clear. […]"

So while I don't think this will involve a nntp gateway, at least
there likely will be a way to have the data of gmane-only archives
copied to mail-archived.com (well, at least there's the offer, depends
on how it all turns out in the end...)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] End of Gmane

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Jean-Baptiste, *,

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
 wrote:
>
> Gmane website is stopped :
> https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/

Not yet. He just communicates that he is thinkging about shutting it
down/at least partially.

I think there is no  problem in shutting down t he webinterface part.
I personally never find that  easy to use, at least I'm always annoyed
when a google search points to gmane and then you have to click around
to see the thread and the whole post - it just had too many different
views.

Of course the nntp bridge is the one thing that makes it unique, and I
don't think theres's any other service that would offer NNTP access to
mailinglists.

We have our own archives, use mail-archive.com (for which we even put
a link to the post in the archive in the message header, so when you
have the mail locally and want to point someone else to it you can
copy the link from the message, and don't need to search in
webinterface, e.g.
http://go.mail-archive.com/XRjfH0ooZGZ6DHAF9JOdK9BChgo= is link to
your message) and nabble, so there's no loss of information in case
gmane really shuts down, just

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Services outage: gerrit, jenkins, bugzilla ...

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Norbert Thiebaud  wrote:
> Due to a multiple disk failure event on falco these services are
> currently offline
>
> We are working on restoring them...

gerrit, bugzilla and jenkins back up.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] "NoReverseMatch" error when selecting "Version 5.2.0.0" on crashreport.libreoffice.org

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Thomas, *,

On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Thomas Hackert  wrote:
>
> Is this an expected error?

Not expected, caused by a non-TDF-build crashreport

> And is this OK to report it here, or
> should I open a bug / Redmine ticket for it?

Right now, the crashtest website is maintained by moggi and in flux,
so ping on #libreoffice-dev (or -qa) is preferred, Markus is not
subscribed to the website list.
I pinged him/pointed to your mail:
14:20  cloph_away: I have seen the problem already but need to
fix it in the db, it is not a problem introduced by me but a broken
crash report from a non-TDF build

So nothing to be done for this problem...

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Switch Lithuanian website to the new design

[Christian Lohmaier]

I didn't yet pull new translations. If you did translate the new design.po,
then strings will be translated on weekend.
ciao Christian

Modestas Rimkus <modestas.rim...@gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 21.07.2016,
12:52:

> 2016-07-21 13:22 GMT+03:00 Christian Lohmaier <
> lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com>:
>
>>
>> Did make the switch. Note that the url-segment of the homepage must be
>> "home" - I did change that.
>>
>
> ​Thanks Christian! However, strings form Website project in Pootle didn't
> make it to the new design - now Download and Donate pages​
>
> ​and a few other labels are in English​. How can that be fixed?
>
> Regards,
> Modestas
>

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Switch Lithuanian website to the new design

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Modestas Rimkus
 wrote:
> I know it must be the holiday season, but still maybe there's someone able
> to switch the design?
>
> 2016-07-14 8:58 GMT+03:00 Modestas Rimkus :
>
>> I think I have the main pages ready for the new design, I'll continue
>> translating more when the site's live.
>>
>> Christian, please make the switch for lt.libreoffice.org. Thanks!

Did make the switch. Note that the url-segment of the homepage must be
"home" - I did change that.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Remember to adjust download shortcodes / version filter in download pages for 5.2

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

seems that not all projects did update the prerelease shortcode to
point to 5.2 line yet,

http://it.libreoffice.org/download/pre-release/ for example even has
pointers for 4.3 and 4.4, so it never will be listed there...

(only the automatic listing at the bottom of the download pages will
list it: http://it.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ )

so please make sure to adjust:

* prerelease downlaod page:
  [devDL,ver="5.2"]
  → devDL tags should be added with version 5.2 and 5.1


* portable versions:
  [portableDL,type="Standard",ver="5.1"]  and/or
[portableDL,type="All",ver="5.1"]
  should be added for version 5.1 and 5.0 ("All" is all language
build, "Standard" is the reduced language version, feel free to only
link one of them)

* download pages themselves:
  "codeline to offer on this page (major.minor)" 5.1
  → make sure it shows 5.1 version, feel free to use that for both
fresh and stable at this point (as 5.0 is already EOL, and update
check will offer update to 5.1.4)

Of course you're not obliged to use the shortcodes/have links to
versions in them. But if you do, please make sure to update them.

If you don't use them, remove the shortcodes completely and either
point to the english page or add text explaining that the available
versions are listed at the bottom of the download page.

Suggestions on how to improve the handling of this for nl-projects or
other questions regarding the shortcode → please to the
website@global.libreoffice.org mailinglist only (ideally in a new
thread, with the subject adjusted to the question at hand)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Account to translate website into Lithuanian

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi,

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Modestas Rimkus
 wrote:
> Hello? Can anyone help me with the account?

Created the account - you should have received a password-reset mail.
log in via https://www.libreoffice.org/admin and pick lithuanian
project from the dropdown at the left if not automatically selected
for you.

Once you're happy with the site, poke the list again and it can be
switched to the newdesign version.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Limit to upload files

[Christian Lohmaier]

If the upload starts, but then is cut off, I need to find the timeout that
triggered.. I did test with an 18MB file. Before the change the upload was
rejected immediately, after the change it was successful...

Eliane Domingos de Sousa  schrieb am Di.,
07.06.2016, 0:38:

> Hi Florian,
>
> No!
>
> Now, I have a new message:
> Sorry your upload failed
> Total: 1 Files 24.27 MB
>
> Before you ask, it's not a problem in my internet connection. I checked!
>
> Best,
>
> Eliane Domingos de Sousa
> Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil
> Brazilian LibreOffice Community
> Em 06-06-2016 12:44, Florian Effenberger escreveu:
>
> Hi Eliane,
>
> Florian Effenberger wrote on 2016-06-01 at 14:09:
>
> Cloph, can you have a look at this one?
>
>
> can you try if the issue has been fixed?
>
> Thanks,
> Florian
>
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-website] email problem with bugzilla, as well as for nable... :-/

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Peter,

On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Peter Gervai  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Copied from 
> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/70011/please-fix-your-email-system-at-bugzilla/
> :
>
> Bugzilla registrations fail on sender verified systems due to buggy
> sender for registration email verification mail:

Well, pretty common to use something a noreply-style address for these
kind of stuff.

/me added corresponding config though.

> I would have registered to nabble and post this on the web but nabble
> is pretty misconfigured, too:
>
> response to "RCPT TO:" from mwork.nabble.com
> [162.253.133.43] was:
>   550 5.1.1 : Recipient address rejected: User
> unknown in virtual mailbox table
>
> *sigh* Senders should be deliverable.

We don't manage nabble, nabble offers a forum-style frontend to our
mailinglists, so that request needs to be sent to nabble.

> Would be extremely friendly to have these fixed.

For bugzilla: done, but as mentioned:  not fixable by TDF for nabble.
When you register to the list directly, no such problem. (besides
registration is optional - if you send mail without being subscribed,
it will  end up in moderator's queue)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Add my blog to libreoffice planet

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Xisco Faulí  wrote:

>
> Have you had time to take a look at it?

You're funny. You write (to the reply that I'd need the URL to your
feed) that you "believe it's done now".  So I also believe everything
is done, someone else added the blog in the meantime/no action needed.

So if it is *NOT* done now, then I'm still waiting for the URL to your blog.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] FINISHED: Pootle downtime / translations.documentfoundation.org

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 2:52 AM, Elanjelian Venugopal
 wrote:
> The site is still not functional. I could not yet see any content in the
> files. -e.

As the stats are still generated, you don't see links that would
switch you into tranlsation mode, but when you switch from browse to
translate manually, you'll see the data.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: UPDATE: Pootle downtime / translations.documentfoundation.org

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Alexander Werner
 wrote:
>
> the database migration is currently running, but due to the amount of data
> in our database and the not very efficient design of MySQL regarding ALTER
> TABLE operations it is taking longer than expected.

FYI: still running ALTER TABLE

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Website Problem

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Robert Nye  wrote:
> Hi
> Goodness knows you make it hard to find a way to communicate with your good
> selves!!!  When I went to donate for using the program I received this
> message which I could not get past:
>
> Security token doesn't match, possible CSRF attack.

This means that you either had the page open for very long before
submitting the form (then the token expires), or that you're using a
proxy that incorrectly hands out an old copy of the page (then the
token in the page doesn't match the token the site assigns to your
browser).

CSRF (cross site request forgery) protection is mean to prevent
attacks, having people visiting a malicious site to trigger requests
to form they didn't actually visit.

So it should not show up when you reload the page and try again.
Thanks a lot :-)

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Some links broken on Governance page of main LO site

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Mike,

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Mike Saunders
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Going to About us -> Governance leads to this page:
> https://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/governance/
>
> Some of the links (eg "The Board of Directors" and "The Membership
> Committee") produce error messages like:
>
> "Action 'board' isn't available on class Page_Controller."

That message is shown because no 404 error page was created on the tdf
site - did that now, so you get a default "page not found" style page
instead of something cryptic about the internal workings of
silverstripe.

> Not sure if this is a temporary thing as it's the first time I've checked on
> the main LO site...

It's a bad link, as Klaus-Jürgen did point out, but whether the link
needs to change, or the page should be created is of course the real
question.
You can create redirector pages in silverstripe to have old links
work, while not altering the new layout of the site.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] New user request for website management

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Antonio, *,

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:23 PM, elcico2001 एल्चिको
 wrote:
> Hello all,
> Any admin could please give editing and publishing permissions to Antonio
> Faccioli (cc'ed), member of the italian community?
>
> Mail: antonio.facci...@libreitalia.it
>
> Thank you :)

Done. Triggered pw-reset mail. If you don't see it in your inbox, make
sure to also look in spam folder.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Add my blog to libreoffice planet

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Xisco,

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Xisco Faulí  wrote:
>
> Recently I have created a new blog where I'll post some of the changes I've
> done in Libreoffice. Could you please add it to the libreoffice planet
> aggregator?

If you had included the URL to your blogfeed, it would have been added
by now :-)

so it needs another mail-roundtrip...

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Bouncing messages - l...@it.libreoffice.org

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 12:17 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको  wrote:
> […]
> I quite often receive messages about bouncing messages...

It's always the same cause, but as people don't read other peoples' threads...

> But worst... in these last days I don't receive back all messages I send to
> the l...@it.libreoffice.org list. Messages get to the list (I can see them
> in the web archives), but I don't get them back in my mail account.
> Anybody could check this strange behaviour?

This is not strange. It is just  DMARC at play.

yahoo employs DMARC policies that say to reject  mail that looks like
it comes from yahoo (i.e. is sent from a yahoo address), but doesn't
have a valid signature added by yahoo.

As the mailing list modifies the message (adds footer, adds tag into
subject), the signature yahoo adds is invalid, and thus mail providers
that respect dmarc either flag the message as spam (gmail does this
nowadays, previously it did reject them completely), or refuse to
accept the message.

> Di seguito, l'elenco dei messaggi restituiti:
> - 1282

That is your message http://go.mail-archive.com/6VD6RKY1_csmq_jsseu6duNBMbQ=
Message-ID: <57018a23.4000...@yahoo.it>
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 23:24:51 +0200
Subject: Re: [it-l10n] [wiki] Faq/General/it completata

You are posting from yahoo.it, and no wonder yahoo itself respects its
own policy and refuses the message. There is nothing we can do about
that. Just don't use a email address from a provider that  uses dmarc
for mailinglists.

ciao
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[libreoffice-website] wiki account creation temporarily disabled

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

due to recent spam attack, we temporarily disable new account creation
in the wiki.

Thanks for your understanding.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Donation in Bitcoin: minimum amount is only enforced client side

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Victor, *,

On Saturday, March 12, 2016, Victor Grousset/tuxayo 
wrote:
>
>
> In the donation page, when choosing Bitcoin, the minimum donation amount
> is only enforced on the client side.
>

Yes, since it's not processed by silverstripe, but handed over to
bitpay...  There it is important that the value that is displayed there is
the value that gets deducted from the donator's wallet..

And it's mainly convenience to use a control where you can
incremnet/decremet, that way there's no confusion about what character is
decimal separator for example, and minimum amount is to be in the same
ballpark as the other  methods, IIRC 0.01 bitcoin now is a little more than
3€


> Is this a problem ?
> There are no fixed fees with Bitpay, so it's can't really be "exploited".
>

Yes, indeed (at least AFAIK) - so not really a problem. If people want to
donate less, they're free to inject their own values :-)

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Fullscreen mode for embedded videos on LO site, New Features page?

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Hi Mike, *,

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Mike Saunders
 wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Thanks to whoever embedded my 5.1 New Features videos on here:
> http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/new-features/
>
> We were just talking on the German list about the full-screen button
> (bottom-right) being disabled for the videos. Was this done deliberately for
> a specific reason?

No, the HTML-editor used by silverstripe uses a whitelist of allowed
tags and attributes, and allowfullscreen was not listed, so it was
stripped before being saved to the database.

I updated the configuration so tinyMCE (the editor) now doesn't strip
the allowfullscreen attribute anymore, and updated the new-features
site mentioned above accordingly.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice 5.1 website content

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Rhoslyn, *,

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Rhoslyn Prys  wrote:
> Could I receive the English text of any changes to the LibreOffice website?
> I'd like to update the Welsh translation for 5.1.

There have not been significant changes to the website for 5.1 - the
release notes only link to the corresponding headings in the wiki.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Give Feedback not working

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Peter,

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 11:11 AM, peterwt  wrote:
> The give feedback link at the bottom of the page opens the page.

What page? I assume ask.libreoffice.org as that's the only one that
comes in mind that has feedback link at the bottom..

Thanks, confirmed the problem and filed ticket in redmine...

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Translating the big green buttons

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
<jbfa...@libreoffice.org> wrote:
> Le 30/01/2016 12:40, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
>> <jbfa...@libreoffice.org> wrote:
>>> Le 29/01/2016 18:58, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
>>>> [...]
>>>> see the redmine ticker for a snippet you can use as basis for your own 
>>>> buttons.
>>>
>>> I just did that for the French website, it works but the translated
>>> buttons do not contain the icons as in the not translated case.
>>
>> Because you didn't include the characters that make up the icon.. The
>> template in the redmine ticket includes  for example, this is missing from the one you added to
>> french site.
>
> I copy exactly the html block of the redmine ticket. I just tried
> again and it appears that the html editor removes strings like " class="fa fa-wrench> fa-2x">"

Ah, I see the problem.

The editor's config for allowed tag has an entry "-em/i[class]" which means

allow em tags and i tags with class attribute, but treat them the the
same and prefer em tag (so something would be saved/passed to
silverstripe as something. The leading "-" means to ignore
empty elements. as so  will become
 and since it is empty removed completely.

so the solution is to use  instead - the class specification tells use
font-awesome, and use fa-wrench icon, in double-size (that will result
in a css rule that prepends the character representing the symbol
(U+f0ad) in the font, the non-break spece on the one hand to add some
padding between symbol and label, and of course also to not result in
an empty element that would a also get removed..

I'll update the comment in the redmine ticket. accordingly.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Translating the big green buttons

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 8:39 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
<jbfa...@libreoffice.org> wrote:
> Le 29/01/2016 18:58, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
>> [...]
>> see the redmine ticker for a snippet you can use as basis for your own 
>> buttons.
>
> I just did that for the French website, it works but the translated
> buttons do not contain the icons as in the not translated case.

Because you didn't include the characters that make up the icon.. The
template in the redmine ticket includes  for example, this is missing from the one you added to
french site.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Migration to the new website

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Paweł, *,

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Pawel K.  wrote:
>
> Can you give me more tips how to migrate to new design (like libreoffice.org
> or de.libreoffice.org)?

it's been a while and elcico provided pointer to the wiki (
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT ) - but so far not
much did change in polish site on  newdesign host.

What was/is the problem?

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Translating the big green buttons

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Pedro,

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pedro Albuquerque
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I seem to recall there was some kind of tutorial on how to add some code
> to get the 4 big green buttons on the right of the download page
> translated.
> Can some one please, point me there? Thank you.

You can replace the whole set by using the "Custom Sidebar" field in
the CMS backend.  If it is empty, the English default labels are used,
other whatever you put in there.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Translating the big green buttons

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi,

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Christian Lohmaier
<lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Pedro Albuquerque
> <palbuquerqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I seem to recall there was some kind of tutorial on how to add some code
>> to get the 4 big green buttons on the right of the download page
>> translated.
>> Can some one please, point me there? Thank you.
>
> You can replace the whole set by using the "Custom Sidebar" field in
> the CMS backend.

correction, the field above that is labeld:
"Sidebar buttons, see https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1023;

> If it is empty, the English default labels are used,
> other whatever you put in there.

that's true however : -)

see the redmine ticker for a snippet you can use as basis for your own buttons.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Publish Dutch LO website

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Rob, *,

On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Rob Westein  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Where can I have access to the CSS data of the site? I want to change the
> height of the font used in the menu

I applied spacing tweaks to the css to make the menu fit. In general,
use your favorite browser's debugging tools - all nowadays offer an
on-the-fly edit mode for css properties.

Once you determined the desired values, post the changes here so they
can be incorporated.

Alternatively use your browser's "save" feature to save a copy of the
site and do the changes and send the changes..

in any case, I also made the site public, so it is now on newdesign.

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice - "Development versions" download link issues

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Hi Marc,

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:
> [...]
> For some reason, the download page of the development version is picking up
> the wrong name of the beta1 where it should really be saying beta2.

oversight, it is a manual override, as that case occurs so seldomly...

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] Publish Dutch LO website

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Rob, *,

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Rob Westein  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The last months we worked in holland on the translation of the "new"
> LibreOffice website (nl.libreoffice.org)
> We are nearly finished with translating, but we think it is time to publish
> the new site.

Then you should  actually publish the pages from within the CMS first.
Make sure  to switch the internal preview  to  "published" site and
not to draft...

> Do we have to do something?

See above. Check  your site  in  "published" mode - also make sure  to
resize  the browser window to check the 4 display widths the site
switches between depending on display width. (collapsed menu, and
three different expanded ones).

The draft-pages' menu-titles don't fit in the  available area and
thus split  to a second line.  While for  e.g. French and Brazilian
site the spacings were  tweaked a litltle,  the dutch ones seems too
long to still make them fit next to  the logo (still should be
displayed with a  minimal fontsize after  all...).

So: Solve the  menu-length problem (you're not obliged  to  use the
same menu entries as the English site) and make sure to have all
relevant pages published, then ask for switch over to newdesign
site...

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Space needed on website

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Joel,

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Joel Madero  wrote:
> On the main page there is this "LibreOffice 5:it stands out from the
> office suite crowd." someone in the user chat (and I agree) stated that
> there should be a space after the colon.

Please state exactly where the problem is. -  that text e.g. appears
twice, first prominently in the slider-area, so  I  first thought it
was  fixed already

Added space (the original text is was "...:" - but second use
uses non-HTML-markup version of the text and just strips the  ,
so  I made it "...: ..." - that way it can strip the linebreak
without smashing the two  parts  together

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] New infra call schedule

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Hi Alexander, *,

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Alexander Werner
 wrote:
>> Am 10.11.2015 um 12:00 schrieb Florian Effenberger 
>> :
>>
> The next infra call will take place on Wednesday, 17 November, 18:00 UTC.

Wednesday is Nov 18,  the 17 is Tuesday.

I assume Wednesday, 18th of  November is the correct day...

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-website] Re: New infra call schedule

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Florian Effenberger
 wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Alexander Werner wrote on 2015-11-05 at 12:16:
>
>> a new time and date for the monthly infra call has to be found.
>> Please enter your preferred schedule in this doodle:
>> http://doodle.com/poll/cx8m9cynx5xs4m7x
>
>
> is this for all future calls or just for the next one?

/me only voted for the concrete dates.

Tuesday would work for me in general just fine, just this week it is
"meh" and next week it's a "no-go".

ciao
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Re: [libreoffice-website] [PROPOSAL] use git for our web pages.

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On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:09 AM, jan iversen  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> While I worked on a patch to a power shell script, I was told on IRC, that
> our web pages are not in git.
>
> May I suggest we add them to git, that makes it a lot easier to contribute,
> and also to keep a history of changes.

Rejected.  For one we do have history of the changes, but more
importantly: Website editors are neither fluent in html, nor in git.

If you want to create pages in plain html, you can use raw-html-mode
and edit there/paste what you have.

Using git for the website would only mean to:

1) lock out many editors that don't know anything about git nor html itself
2) would force us to either manually keep track of links or use
another framework on top of git to manage links
3) would not allow us to use automatically created download pages and similar
4) wouldn't allow to easily manage the substies without either
duplicating the whole thing for all the subsites or creating elaborate
permission framework on top of the existing one.

I certainly do not want to do that.

Rather than just proposing to use git, point out what you think would
be solved by that.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Please add me to planet

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Dennis,

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Dennis Roczek
 wrote:
> please add my newly created blog to the planet.
>
> URL: https://dennisroczek.wordpress.com/tag/libreoffice/

added - will show up on next refresh..

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Events slider updated and more event banners to come

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Marc,

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Marc Paré  wrote:
> I have updated the LibreOffice events slider with a "Happy Birthday" banner
> for LibreOffice and another of the same birthday as placeholder.

Thanks for that :-) has 90s web feel to it :-)

And while at it: end of year is approaching fast, and thus time for
seasonal greetings, etc :-) so if you have ideas of stuff to put on
the page this year, let me know :-)

ciao
Christian

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