Re: [Wikidata-l] Data copyright and licensing

2012-08-05 Thread Benjamin Ooghe-Tabanou
 However, I believe this is irrelevant. Creative Commons version 3 does
 include database rights for those localized licenses in legislations
 implementing database rights (e.g.
 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/nl/legalcode
 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/de/legalcode). They are
 included in the works, while at the same time, the license does waive any
 specific database rights to avoid database right proliferation.

This is not true everywhere, typically in France, database rights can
not be addressed with CC licences (at least until version 4.0 is
finished and translated)


 Gregor

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Data copyright and licensing

2012-08-03 Thread Daniel Kinzler
On 03.08.2012 15:04, Jan Kučera wrote:
 Hm,
 
 but I think you fail to import data from Wikipedia under CC-0... from
 lists, infoboxes and even the language links?

Individual data points are not copyrightable, so they can just be copied. If
this wasn't the case, we could not cite any non-free Works in Wikipedia either.

Anything that constitutes even a sentence can not be copied to Wikidata, or
needs an extra license statement attached. Lucky, our data structure is flexible
enough that we could even do that, though i'd like to avoid it.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Data copyright and licensing

2012-08-02 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there,

 did anyone think of possible copyright restrictions on the use of
 external data within wikidata? I am not sure common public sources of
 data are usable right away... seems like copyright works the same with
 data as with any other work... Sure, many organizations throw data
 into public domain, but it definitely is not an industry standard yet.

 Kozuch

Right. And I think that's ok. It'll take time. Wikidata needs that
time to grow a community to maintain the data in it. It's perfectly ok
for Wikidata to not have a billion entries in the first month ;-)
To give you an impression of some organisations that want to work
together with us already and the licenses of their data:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_collaborators


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Re: [Wikidata-l] Data copyright and licensing

2012-08-02 Thread Jan Kučera
Yes this is quite important decision to be made... So far officials here
did not comment on it... Do they want to use cc-by-sa or rather odbl?
Dne 2.8.2012 19:58 rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com napsal(a):

 Should there be a clear license right from the beginning to avoid what
 happened to openstreetmap, which recently deleted data where they were
 unable to switch the license over to odbl?

 Rupert
 Am 02.08.2012 12:12 schrieb Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com
 :



 2012/8/2 Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com

 Hi there,

 did anyone think of possible copyright restrictions on the use of
 external data within wikidata? I am not sure common public sources of
 data are usable right away... seems like copyright works the same with
 data as with any other work... Sure, many organizations throw data
 into public domain, but it definitely is not an industry standard yet.

 Kozuch

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 Hi. There is indeed laws that applys to data IF they are compiled, in my
 understanding - nobody can copyright the geolocalisation of the Eiffel
 tower alone for example, that would be absurd.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_right

 In my understanding there would be a problem if somebody imports data
 massively from a protected database. Owners sometimes inserts false data in
 their datasets to be able to prove that an illegal copy has been made. But
 the in beetween single data and mass import is quite unclear to me :)

 On the other hand there are licences such as
 http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Data

 TomT0m

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