Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
Yes, it's the only way that doesn't result in serious technical repercussions. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Javier Bassi javierba...@gmail.comwrote: A blackout with JavaScript? -_- ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- John ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
On 18/01/2012 7:52 p.m., Stephen Bain wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Javier Bassijavierba...@gmail.com wrote: A blackout with JavaScript? -_- Yes. And don't tell anyone they can avoid the blackout by hitting ESC pressing 'stop' in their browser before onLoad() triggers. Can't edit though. Although some can. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges Am getting withdrawal symptoms!!! A ** ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and political statements
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Now that we have taken the necessary first step to regard the English Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects as high-profile platforms for political statements, we ought to consider what other critical humanitarian problems we could use our considerable visibility and reputation to address. snip considerable visibility and reputation is the key point here. The visibility is unlikely to be much affected, but the blackout and activism may well affect the reputation, or the mental image many people have of Wikipedia, especially if it becomes a regular occurrence. More comments below. Of course, there is no articulated reason to limit ourselves this way. Surely a large portion of our voting community would be against snip voting community is the key point there. This community changes and will be greatly affected by these developments, especially if black-outs become a regular event. Some will leave, others will arrive. The make-up of the community will change. I also predict that those who previously stayed silent will start to speak up, and more than just those who are naturally activist and/or political will start to speak up. The possibilities are, quite unfortunately, nearly endless. Obviously we can't keep Wikipedia offline and just rotate the protest message; perhaps we should consider creating a Campaign of the Week (or Month?) to highlight humanitarian problems. All we need are volunteers to set up a Wikipedia:CotW and get it rolling, and we can start to make a real difference. I wasn't entirely sure if you were being sarcastic here and elsewhere in the post. A couple of objections. (1) Many (hopefully most) Wikipedians are here to write an online encyclopedia, not to be part of an activist community (though there are elements of that in the parts of the free licensing movement who actively promote copyleft and work to (legitimately) reduce as much as possible the restrictions produced by copyright legislation, which is pertinent given the SOPA element here). (2) Many Wikipedians are quite happy to be activist elsewhere and to make protests in person at demonstrations, and to sign petitions, and help run activist and/or political organisations, but are happy to do this as something completely separate from Wikipedia. It tends to be a question of balancing different interests and not letting one dominate the others, and keeping interests that might conflict apart. Some will say you shouldn't keep things like this separate, others will say you should. There are valid points for both arguments. As I said above, the main result of all this, especially if it continues, will be to shift the public perception of Wikipedia from a user-edited resource that is moderately reliable if used with caution (sometimes very unreliable if used without caution) to an activist platform. That could be disastrous for its reputation. Consider if a rival was started or was around that pledged it would never use its visibility and reputation to make points like this. A one-off black-out, yes. Repeated black-outs, no. I would hope most Wikipedians would oppose anything like this happening again in the near future, if only because this strategy becomes less effective the more it is used. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 January 2012 11:29, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: The one omission there other than the mailing list seems to have been the Village Pumps; the first RFC was hosted on VP/Proposals, but spamming a notice for the second RFC to the others might have been worthwhile. Something to add to the list for next time we have some mass short-notice discussion like this - though, hopefully, that won't be for another ten years! Really, if it's on Central Notice, it doesn't need to be anywhere else. It was a little difficult to miss. The problem I have is with the timescale. I was away that weekend (though I was briefly active on Commons, I didn't have time to check much else). I had no time to look at the discussion when it opened on Friday, and by the time I got back and had time on Monday evening to look at the discussion, it had closed. A discussion like that should have been started at least a week before the planned action. Anything requiring action on a swifter timescale should have been delegated following (at minimum) a week-long community discussion. Ironically, I just tried to look up some comments made in one of the earlier discussions, but was unable to do so. Shouldn't the discussions leading up to the blackout have been omitted from the blackout? I think some were, but not all. If there are some discussion pages related to this that are still readable (even if not editable), could someone list them here? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and political statements
On 18 January 2012 08:15, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: A one-off black-out, yes. Repeated black-outs, no. I would hope most Wikipedians would oppose anything like this happening again in the near future, if only because this strategy becomes less effective the more it is used. Yep. Personally, I'd like this to be really rare. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] New Brunswick Wikipedians?
Hi, I've got a radio request for a New Brunswick Wikimedian to comment on CBC Radio about SOPA... any takers? You do have to be from the Canadian province. Nick ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
I wish you luck maintaining your sanity after using conservapedia then, and hope you'll come back to reason after the blackout. On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:37 PM, David Carson carson63...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I intend to get all of my information for the day from Conservapedia. So by the end of the day I expect I'll be ready to take to the streets _defending_ SOPA. Cheers, David... On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Citizendium will *clean up* tomorrow. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
Wikipedia should do these complete edit locks more often, TBH. For the sake of Wikipediholics like me, and so admins can catch up with reports and backlogs in peace. Not sure if it's a serious suggestion but it's just a thought I had. On a related note, the Internet looks really dumb with JavaScript turned off. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 January 2012 11:29, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: The one omission there other than the mailing list seems to have been the Village Pumps; the first RFC was hosted on VP/Proposals, but spamming a notice for the second RFC to the others might have been worthwhile. Something to add to the list for next time we have some mass short-notice discussion like this - though, hopefully, that won't be for another ten years! Really, if it's on Central Notice, it doesn't need to be anywhere else. It was a little difficult to miss. The problem I have is with the timescale. I was away that weekend (though I was briefly active on Commons, I didn't have time to check much else). I had no time to look at the discussion when it opened on Friday, and by the time I got back and had time on Monday evening to look at the discussion, it had closed. A discussion like that should have been started at least a week before the planned action. Anything requiring action on a swifter timescale should have been delegated following (at minimum) a week-long community discussion. Ironically, I just tried to look up some comments made in one of the earlier discussions, but was unable to do so. Shouldn't the discussions leading up to the blackout have been omitted from the blackout? I think some were, but not all. If there are some discussion pages related to this that are still readable (even if not editable), could someone list them here? Carcharoth I started a thread along these lines a few hours ago on foundation-l. More specifically focused on the Foundation role in catalyzing it (going from an unfocused small on-wiki discussion to a We should really do this within 5 days of the proposed initiation date), but touching generally on insufficient time for proper discussion and consensus. On the plus side, I think a majority of active Wikipedians seem to have been heard, and the consensus was clearly there. On the minus side, for a big thing, we need time to frame things. Time to define what arguments people think there are to be made, what the big options are, how to present them. Once the idea is proposed and framed, then there needs to be time for consensus discussions. For something as big as a day of Dark, probably a week. And then time for counting it up, calling a consensus, and implementing. Two weeks would be rushing it, from beginning to end. We had approximately 5 days. I don't suspect that spending the appropriate amount of time here would have changed things regarding community decision and ultimate outcome. However, it is not appropriate to cut corners in this manner. There's a fundamental difference between a Community Consensus and a Mob. 72 hrs over a weekend is somewhere in between, and uncomfortably on the Wrong End of that scale. This entirely seems to have been timing, the community sort of deciding it was a good idea without proper wide consensus-seeking in late December through the 12th, followed by the Foundation deciding it was a good idea and pushing for an on-wiki consensus process roughly on the 13th. Someone - I still haven't entirely figured out who from reading all the threads - called a 72 hr time limit on it all arbitrarily around late 13th or early 14th. The earlier on-wiki planners could perhaps have started a better onwiki process with enough discussion and notice. The Foundation could have rethought engaging given the date date, but appears to have decided that the issue was important enough to push on through (overlooking the consensus timing issues). Nobody is at fault here, but a bunch of people in positions to try and be proactive weren't and a bunch of community leaders jumped to the front of it rather than being a little cautious. I don't like SOPA any more than anyone else here I can think of. But a lot of nuance - for Wikipedia's long term reputation and otherwise - was lost or bulled through in this process. Doubleplus ungood. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Blackout notice errors
Here's another big one: The message says There are better ways, like the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, to find the right approach to legitimate copyright enforcement without trampling on free expression. However, the page links to an EFF summary which includes a mention of how the DMCA has been abused. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Blackout notice errors
On 18 January 2012 09:30, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: Here's another big one: The message says There are better ways, like the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, to find the right approach to legitimate copyright enforcement without trampling on free expression. However, the page links to an EFF summary which includes a mention of how the DMCA has been abused. As I thought when I read Geoff Brigham's blog post on SOPA, it's gotta be bad if it makes the DMCA look good. - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:09 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: I started a thread along these lines a few hours ago on foundation-l. I may cross-post there (foundation-l) gently chiding those who were discussing the blackout there with no cross-posting or announcement here (wiki-en-l). That was a really bad omission, given that this directly affected the English language version of Wikipedia. I would also plead that more cross-posting be done. It may sometimes lead to parallel discussions, but that is better than those only following one list missing out on announcements. If someone else wants to cross-post this, or post before I do, please do. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Jeraphine Gryphon jeraph...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia should do these complete edit locks more often, TBH. For the sake of Wikipediholics like me, and so admins can catch up with reports and backlogs in peace. Point of order. This is not an edit-lock. You are thinking from the perspective of an editor. This is a reader lock-out as well (though really, those that know enough to use mirrors or caches or disable javascript are not missing out on reading articles, and that may get mis-reported in the press as those in the know not being inconvenienced but everyone else being locked out from reading Wikipedia). Not sure if it's a serious suggestion but it's just a thought I had. It's a nice idea, but there are several problems with that. Firstly, how to handle urgent edits that still need to be made. Secondly, how to restrict editing disablement to just article namespace (which is what would be needed to allow other stuff to carry on as normal). I don't think it would ever really happen. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Reactions against the SOPA blackout
Starting a thread to collect some links to reactions against the SOPA blackout of Wikipedia. Here is one to start things off: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Scott_MacDonald And a link to that page as it currently stands: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Scott_MacDonaldoldid=471993971 Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] Reactions against the SOPA blackout
I'd love to list my support on that page (after hitting the stop button to keep the blackout from loading), but with the whole site under full protection... And to imagine people were worried about alienating people and perverting our doctrines with Pending Changes! Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com On Jan 18, 2012 7:22 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Starting a thread to collect some links to reactions against the SOPA blackout of Wikipedia. Here is one to start things off: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Scott_MacDonald And a link to that page as it currently stands: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Scott_MacDonaldoldid=471993971 Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Irony
Today's Now I Know by Dan Lewis discusses copyright and involves several links to Wikipedia. http://dlewis.net/nik-archives/no-copying-grandma/ Sent from my Droid2 Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com On Jan 18, 2012 5:58 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Jeraphine Gryphon jeraph...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia should do these complete edit locks more often, TBH. For the sake of Wikipediholics like me, and so admins can catch up with reports and backlogs in peace. Point of order. This is not an edit-lock. You are thinking from the perspective of an editor. This is a reader lock-out as well (though really, those that know enough to use mirrors or caches or disable javascript are not missing out on reading articles, and that may get mis-reported in the press as those in the know not being inconvenienced but everyone else being locked out from reading Wikipedia). Not sure if it's a serious suggestion but it's just a thought I had. It's a nice idea, but there are several problems with that. Firstly, how to handle urgent edits that still need to be made. Secondly, how to restrict editing disablement to just article namespace (which is what would be needed to allow other stuff to carry on as normal). I don't think it would ever really happen. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] BBC articles related to Wikipedia blackout
Three BBC articles related to Wikipedia blackout: 1) Wikipedia joins blackout protest at US anti-piracy moves http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16590585 2) Wikipedia - what can it tell us about Sopa? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16609057 3) Without Wikipedia, where can you get your facts? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16601517 All BBC News, 18 January 2012. Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
On 17 January 2012 19:40, Tyler myusernameor...@gmail.com wrote: I wish you luck maintaining your sanity after using conservapedia then, and hope you'll come back to reason after the blackout. On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:37 PM, David Carson carson63...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I intend to get all of my information for the day from Conservapedia. So by the end of the day I expect I'll be ready to take to the streets _defending_ SOPA. Cheers, David... Ironically, Conservapedia seems to be in agreement with Wikipedia in opposing SOPA/PIPA. Talk about strange bedfellows Risker ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC articles related to Wikipedia blackout
On 18 January 2012 13:05, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Three BBC articles related to Wikipedia blackout: 1) Wikipedia joins blackout protest at US anti-piracy moves http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16590585 2) Wikipedia - what can it tell us about Sopa? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16609057 3) Without Wikipedia, where can you get your facts? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16601517 All BBC News, 18 January 2012. Carcharoth The Grauniad is giving it a lot of coverage too: Wikipedia begins blackout in protest against US anti-piracy laws http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/18/wikipedia-blackout-protest Wikipedia blackout a 'gimmick', MPAA boss claims http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/17/wikipedia-blackout-tech-firms-sopa Dan Gillmor - Stop Sopa or the web really will go dark http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/jan/17/stop-sopa-or-web-will-go-dark Sopa blackout and day of action – live http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/18/sopa-blackout-day-of-action-live ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC articles related to Wikipedia blackout
Also this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jan/17/wikipedia-blackout Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC articles related to Wikipedia blackout
I hate to toot my own horn, but Wikinews has had some articles... Wikipedia, Reddit in 'blackout' against SOPA, PROTECT IP laws https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikipedia,_Reddit_in_%27blackout%27_against_SOPA,_PROTECT_IP_laws?dpl_id=342230 Wikinews interviews Sue Gardner on Wikipedia blackout https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_interviews_Sue_Gardner_on_Wikipedia_blackout -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC articles related to Wikipedia blackout
Fox news: Wikipedia to go dark, Google to join protest against anti-piracy bill http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/17/wikipedia-to-go-dark-for-24-hours-to-protest-anti-piracy-bill/#ixzz1jpcEMzqA Wikipedia editors question site's planned blackout http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/17/wikipedia-editors-question-sites-planned-blackout/ Wikipedia Blacks Out In SOPA Protest http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/01/18/wikipedia-blacks-out-in-sopa-protest/ Wikipedia goes dark for 24 hours to protest web piracy bills http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/18/wikipedia-goes-dark-for-24-hours-to-protest-us-web-piracy-bills/#ixzz1jpcTQUA4 Savvy web surfers finding ways to circumvent Wikipedia blackout http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/18/savvy-web-surfers-finding-ways-to-circumvent-wikipedia-blackout/#ixzz1jpcip734 ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC articles related to Wikipedia blackout
Hi folks! Adding links to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_SOPA_blackout/Media if you're able would be super helpful. Thanks :) -- phoebe On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Javier Bassi javierba...@gmail.com wrote: Fox news: Wikipedia to go dark, Google to join protest against anti-piracy bill http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/17/wikipedia-to-go-dark-for-24-hours-to-protest-anti-piracy-bill/#ixzz1jpcEMzqA Wikipedia editors question site's planned blackout http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/17/wikipedia-editors-question-sites-planned-blackout/ Wikipedia Blacks Out In SOPA Protest http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/01/18/wikipedia-blacks-out-in-sopa-protest/ Wikipedia goes dark for 24 hours to protest web piracy bills http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/18/wikipedia-goes-dark-for-24-hours-to-protest-us-web-piracy-bills/#ixzz1jpcTQUA4 Savvy web surfers finding ways to circumvent Wikipedia blackout http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/18/savvy-web-surfers-finding-ways-to-circumvent-wikipedia-blackout/#ixzz1jpcip734 ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] WR bites the dust?
On the day that Wikipedia is temporarily blacked out, it seems like one of its most prominent groups of critics has had a possibly more permanent blackout of its own... the infamous BADSITE, Wikipedia Review, might be dead. Going to its site today yields a GoDaddy parking page saying that its domain is expired. -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/ ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] WR bites the dust?
I was equally surprised (and saddened) to learn a few months ago that
Ripway's domain expired...I went through this week and {{dead}}'d all
the ripway links on the English Wikipedia.
Bob
On 1/18/2012 6:48 PM, Daniel R. Tobias wrote:
On the day that Wikipedia is temporarily blacked out, it seems like
one of its most prominent groups of critics has had a possibly more
permanent blackout of its own... the infamous BADSITE, Wikipedia
Review, might be dead. Going to its site today yields a GoDaddy
parking page saying that its domain is expired.
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Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Ironically, Conservapedia seems to be in agreement with Wikipedia in opposing SOPA/PIPA. Talk about strange bedfellows Wikipedia Review has been down for more than 24 hours now. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] WR bites the dust?
This happens from time to time. Usually, somebody stumps up another few months rental, and it's up again the following day. - Original Message - From: Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:48 AM Subject: [WikiEN-l] WR bites the dust? On the day that Wikipedia is temporarily blacked out, it seems like one of its most prominent groups of critics has had a possibly more permanent blackout of its own... the infamous BADSITE, Wikipedia Review, might be dead. Going to its site today yields a GoDaddy parking page saying that its domain is expired. -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/ ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] WR bites the dust?
- Original Message -
From: Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] WR bites the dust?
I was equally surprised (and saddened) to learn a few months ago that
Ripway's domain expired...I went through this week and {{dead}}'d all
the ripway links on the English Wikipedia.
Bob
Were they not in the Wayback Machine?
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Re: [WikiEN-l] WR bites the dust?
Put 184.172.174.94 for wikipediareview.com in your hosts file. (Fortunately, as SOPA has not passed, this is legal :)). On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name wrote: On the day that Wikipedia is temporarily blacked out, it seems like one of its most prominent groups of critics has had a possibly more permanent blackout of its own... the infamous BADSITE, Wikipedia Review, might be dead. Going to its site today yields a GoDaddy parking page saying that its domain is expired. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] WR bites the dust?
They might've been, though I doubt their members' files were. It was a
wonderful free host for practically any non-media file upload and public
file sharing (provided you didn't exceed their daily bandwidth limits);
guess all good things that are too good to be true eventually cease
being true.
Bob
On 1/18/2012 7:14 PM, Phil Nash wrote:
- Original Message - From: Bob the Wikipedian
bobthewikiped...@gmail.com
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] WR bites the dust?
I was equally surprised (and saddened) to learn a few months ago that
Ripway's domain expired...I went through this week and {{dead}}'d all
the ripway links on the English Wikipedia.
Bob
Were they not in the Wayback Machine?
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