Re: [WiX-users] Getting ProductVersion of an msi from wix

2015-05-20 Thread Phil Wilson
In that situation, and assuming you have a robust file versioning
scheme, in all these cases you go ahaead and install the MSI anyway
and:

1. Package versions of those files that have lower file versions and
will therefore not update the existing higher versioned ones.Apply
component rules, and they should be in a common container (such as a
merge module) to make sure that you do follow those rules.

or

2. Have those files in a feature in their containing MSI and ensure
that the feature is not installed (with INSTALLLEVEL perhaps) if that
other product is detected.

or

3. If the number of files is not cumbersome, make each containing
component transitive and dependent on the upgrade detecting an older
product. You'll need to re-evaluate the component condition at every
operation (such as repair) to ensure those files are not potentially
overwritten.  This has the potential advantage that if if the other
product is uninstalled and you now need those files then a repair
would install them.
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On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Rajesh Nagpal rnag...@microsoft.com wrote:
 Ok Let me try this time to state the problem:)

 We have a legacy setup installer(based on wix 3.0) that installs the core
 engine features. We are developing a new setup installer(based on wix 3.8)
 that installs tools features. Based on the current code they both share a
 common msi(which is actually an engine msi but contains some of the tools
 binaries), so I need to package that msi in our tools installer but we
 also don't want to accidently update the engine components as we rev the
 tools installer more frequently. So I want to detect this condition and
 block the setup. We are working long term to fix this correctly by
 refactoring the code but need to have this check meantime.

 Let me know if that makes sense now for the problem I'm trying to solve.

 We don't plan to move to Wix 3.9 very soon just because of the ProductSearch
 feature since we have a workaround for it but yes, I'll update this logic of
 doing registry checks once we move to win 3.9 or higher.



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Re: [WiX-users] Getting ProductVersion of an msi from wix

2015-05-19 Thread Rajesh Nagpal
Ok Let me try this time to state the problem:)

We have a legacy setup installer(based on wix 3.0) that installs the core
engine features. We are developing a new setup installer(based on wix 3.8)
that installs tools features. Based on the current code they both share a
common msi(which is actually an engine msi but contains some of the tools
binaries), so I need to package that msi in our tools installer but we
also don't want to accidently update the engine components as we rev the
tools installer more frequently. So I want to detect this condition and
block the setup. We are working long term to fix this correctly by
refactoring the code but need to have this check meantime.

Let me know if that makes sense now for the problem I'm trying to solve.

We don't plan to move to Wix 3.9 very soon just because of the ProductSearch
feature since we have a workaround for it but yes, I'll update this logic of
doing registry checks once we move to win 3.9 or higher.



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Re: [WiX-users] Getting ProductVersion of an msi from wix

2015-05-19 Thread Phil Wilson
To me at least that's not the problem you're describing - that's a
restatement of your solution, the implementation of which is to block
an MSI install if another product is already installed. Anyway, it
looks like you'll need to write code to do this as outlined earlier
based on detection of an installed product with that UpgradeCode.
Would it be a hardship to move to 3.9 WiX?

If there is way of dealing with your problem by doing it in the MSI
with an upgrade element to onlydetect the installed product, and
have the MSI behave differently then that would be a possible
solution, which is why it might help to know the problem your
detection of that product is going to solve.
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On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Rajesh Nagpal rnag...@microsoft.com wrote:
 Hi Phil,

 Comments inline for your queries:
 /It might help to say why you want to do this and what problem it solves./

 I need to add a blocking condition based on whether a particular msi is
 installed or not and hence I need a way to figure out whether that msi is
 installed or not.

 /You don't mention version either except in the subject line, so some
 clarification about that might help. /
 Not sure which version you are talking about. I'm using Wix 3.8 if that's
 what you wanted to know.

 I got around this problem by finding a registry that gave me the
 version(same as product version).

 Thanks for your response.



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Re: [WiX-users] Getting ProductVersion of an msi from wix

2015-05-18 Thread Rajesh Nagpal
Hi Phil,

Comments inline for your queries:
/It might help to say why you want to do this and what problem it solves./

I need to add a blocking condition based on whether a particular msi is
installed or not and hence I need a way to figure out whether that msi is
installed or not.

/You don't mention version either except in the subject line, so some
clarification about that might help. /
Not sure which version you are talking about. I'm using Wix 3.8 if that's
what you wanted to know.

I got around this problem by finding a registry that gave me the
version(same as product version).

Thanks for your response.



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Re: [WiX-users] Getting ProductVersion of an msi from wix

2015-05-15 Thread Phil Wilson
Your original problem was I'm trying to detect where a particular
msi is installed or not and based on that I want to block on my burn
setup bundle. but that seems more like a solution to a problem you
haven't described. It might help to say why you want to do this and
what problem it solves. You also say where a particular MSI is
installed, but MSIs aren't installed anywhere, so it's unclear what
this is about, maybe a file or the browsable install location is what
you're asking about. You don't mention version either except in the
subject line, so some clarification about that might help.

Regarding getting the ProductVersion of an installed product whose
ProductCode you don't know, there appears to be no support in the WiX
version you're using. If that's the case, then you need to do it
yourself. If that MSI product you want to detect is yours, then have
it write some info in the registry that you can detect with a search.
If it's too late for that, then there is a WiX util ComponentSearch
that you could use to look for a Component Id from that MSI and maybe
that could tell you a location, if that's what you're looking for.

If you need to write custom code in the bootrapper, then
MsiEnumRelatedProducts (pass UpgradeCode in) will tell you installed
ProductCodes of installed products with that UpgradeCode With that
ProductCode you can call APIs like MsiGetProductInfo to get the
ProductVersion, and there are managed code interops for these if you
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On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Rajesh Nagpal rnag...@microsoft.com wrote:
 Thanks Nir for the response!

 As I mentioned, the ProductCode in my case is changing with every new build
 of the msi, so I cannot search for it as it's not fixed.

 I was looking into RegistrySearch and found conflicting info for the Result
 attribute which is an Enumeration. The documentation says that if I specify
 it as exists, I'll get either true or false. But the wix I'm using(wix
 3.8) I'm getting a return value of 1 or 0. Not sure if that has been changed
 in the recent past and I'm having an older version.

 Anyways, I'm using (NOT VariableName) in the Condition so I get the same
 result whether it returns true or 1, but it would be good to know what's the
 expected value there.



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Re: [WiX-users] Getting ProductVersion of an msi from wix

2015-05-14 Thread Nir Bar
Use RegistrySearch on  Uninstall Registry Key,
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372105%28v=vs.85%29.aspx  
DisplayVersion value.



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Re: [WiX-users] Getting ProductVersion of an msi from wix

2015-05-14 Thread Rajesh Nagpal
Thanks Nir for the response!

As I mentioned, the ProductCode in my case is changing with every new build
of the msi, so I cannot search for it as it's not fixed.

I was looking into RegistrySearch and found conflicting info for the Result
attribute which is an Enumeration. The documentation says that if I specify
it as exists, I'll get either true or false. But the wix I'm using(wix
3.8) I'm getting a return value of 1 or 0. Not sure if that has been changed
in the recent past and I'm having an older version.

Anyways, I'm using (NOT VariableName) in the Condition so I get the same
result whether it returns true or 1, but it would be good to know what's the
expected value there.



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Re: [WiX-users] Getting ProductVersion of an msi from wix

2015-05-13 Thread Rajesh Nagpal
I also tried using util:FileSearch giving it the path of one of the files
this msi installs but turns out that the Path attribute doesn't takes an
absolute path(complains of ':' in the Path). My source code for building
this setup bundle lies in a different drive than the drive where this file
gets installed(in C:\Program Files), so cannot use relative path here. Am I
missing anything?

Regards,
Rajesh



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