[WSG] Menu sits above the line in IE - anyone see why?
I've been trying to figure this one out for a while now, and I can't see what's wrong. (I'm learning - but painfully slowly it seems) The top navigation menu sits where it's supposed to in Firefox (the bottom of the menu should touch the top of the white 'content' area) but in IE it's about 20pixels higher. Can anyone see where I've got it wrong? I've tried everything I can think of but obviously havent found the right tweak yet. The page is at http://staging.atalkingdog.com/goArticle.cfm?pid=799713 and the CSS is at http://staging.atalkingdog.com/styles/atalkingdog3.css --CheersMike KearWindsor, NSW, AustraliaCertified Advanced ColdFusion DeveloperAFP Webworkshttp://afpwebworks.comColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month Message sent using UebiMiau 2.7.2 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash, HTML Forms and Firefox
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:20:08 +1000, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible (without using flash transparency) to display html on top of a Flash Element in Firefox? In Firefox/Win and Opera8/Win you can if Flash has WMODE enabled. On Linux and in older browser versions WMODE is not supported and plugins always cover HTML. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Now you see it, now you don't
Thanks! That was it... My first experience with that...but it may
explain another one I used to have on a different site.
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Charles Martin
http://www.webcudgel.com
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Andrew Krespanis wrote:
Try this:
ul.sm_menu li {
position:relative;
}
I had the same problem on greatpikespeakbirdingtrail.org, and that was the fix.
The dissapearing BG bug is another one from the 'hasLayout' family. I
HATE hasLayout, it is IE's worst feature
Andrew.
http://leftjustified.net/
On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:55:36 -0600, Charles Martin
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Okay, this one issue is blowing my mind right now. Naturally, viewed in
Firefox, it looks fine. However, when you view this in IE6, just move
the mouse over the VISIT header in the menu bar on the left. The
green background disappears and doesn't come back. I'm at a loss here.
http://www.yahsaves.org/index.php
http://www.yahsaves.org/yhwh.css
Appreciate any help. I'm gonna work on other content for now.
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Re: [WSG] Yahoo! Auto Response
Does anybody have any idea as to why the following turned up at the forum? hi i am fine. what is going on there? i will contact u afterwards.i am on vacation take care.bye -- There are two ways to write error-free programs. Only the third one works. -- http://www.sabif.info/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!
Ted Drake wrote: I know it is a bad thing to spam your keywords. But if we need to do it to be competitive, Sorry if I sound flippant, but if the business' competitiveness can only be maintained by spamming, then I'd say there's a fundamental business problem there. would this at least protect those that are innocent, the people who need to use screenreaders? You can't, as a rule, say that screenreaders will not read out display:none'd page elements. I have an older version of JAWS at work (4.02), and that quite happily reads out the css-hidden things. So, don't rely on this... -- Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!
Ted wrote: For those covering your ears and eyes screaming N! I know it is a bad thing to spam your keywords. But if we need to do it to be competitive, would this at least protect those that are innocent, the people who need to use screenreaders? Are you willing to risk your client's site and your (possibly) good reputation by spamdexing? Google appears lax towards spamming at present but for how long ... ? Besides, it can be done legitimately: http://search.msn.co.uk/results.aspx?Hidden1=MSNHHidden1=1252q=website+dev elopment Couldn't resist :o) Mike Pepper Accessible Web Developer Internet SEO and Marketing Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.visidigm.com Administrator Guild of Accessible Web Designers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gawds.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty!
Thanks for the replies. I don't like spamming and try to build a site that doesn't need it. I can't say I've been innocent, the web still has some of my spammed alt tags from years gone by. Thank you for the information about the JAWS readers, that is what I was looking for. Some good reason, above the obvious ethical reasons, to maintain standards and avoid using css to spam a page. Ted -Original Message- From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:09 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty! Ted Drake wrote: I know it is a bad thing to spam your keywords. But if we need to do it to be competitive, Sorry if I sound flippant, but if the business' competitiveness can only be maintained by spamming, then I'd say there's a fundamental business problem there. would this at least protect those that are innocent, the people who need to use screenreaders? You can't, as a rule, say that screenreaders will not read out display:none'd page elements. I have an older version of JAWS at work (4.02), and that quite happily reads out the css-hidden things. So, don't rely on this... -- Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty! SEO/CSS
Wouldn't having something to say on your site that is relevant and useful to people who are going to search for what you have to offer be better than spending time on how to manipulate search engines by abusing CSS? If you scam me in the SERP's, can I trust you not to scam me in any other business dealings? Good content, updated regularly is the best SEO I know of. See: http://www.penmachine.com/2004/08/is-it-worth-optimizing-your-site-for.html Terrence Wood. Chris Rizzo wrote: laugh Well, I cetainly don't want to use techniques like this myself, but there are clever ways to spam that the engines can't detect. I know because I see it all the time in the SERPS. I am certainly not an expert on CSS/SEO spamming though :) Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:42 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] cover me -- I'm gonna be naughty! For those covering your ears and eyes screaming N! I know it is a bad thing to spam your keywords. But if we need to do it to be competitive, ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 1. Unwanted Gap 2. Flash files shift when s crolling in Firefox
I have the exact same problem, only mine is not so pronounced. I seem to have about a quarter inch space between the header and the menu. I wished I'd remembered to turn on my server this morning... Bryan On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:52:24 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I have 2 problems with the following pages. These pages do validate. I have not seen these on a PC. Mac IE gets it all right, but I have a couple of problems with Mac Safari and Mac Firefox. XHTML page: http://sonze.com/dvre/who.html CSS page: http://sonze.com/dvre/css/internal.css 1. In Mac Safari and Mac Firefox there is an unwanted gap between div id=navigation ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Question about vertical CSS navigation
Hello; Is there an alternative to the one I use now at http://www.iamu-edu.org , that is(/was?, can't find it anymore) listed on Russ http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/listamatic/ page? An alternative that is doing the same thing, and will function as that one, but with no extras that can't be validated (as the one I have has) All of the nice vertical lists I have found with the help of Listmatic as well as Googling myself, comes up with absolute positioned ones. Any help appreciated, and I hope I make sense, but the hours has been long this week, and it doesn't seem to end yet ;) Regards ~Veine Veine K Vikberg http://www.vikberg.net Professional Web Guru
RE: [WSG] why 3px out in ie
Agh, the old double float margin bug say's agent 86. Thank's for the replies. Problem sorted. http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/doubled-margin.html nameadam hough sitedampsponge.com suggestiondont dig to deep you might get burnt by the molten lava ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] colour contrast analyser
a colour contrast analyser, useful for checking foreground background colour combinations is now available. (http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/contrast_analyser/index.html) with regards Steven Faulkner Web Accessibility Consultant National Information Library Service (NILS) 454 Glenferrie Road Kooyong Victoria 3144 Phone: (613) 9864 9281 Fax: (613) 9864 9210 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Information Library Service A subsidiary of RBS.RVIB.VAF Ltd. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Yahoo! Auto Response
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:45:30 - (GMT), Tim John wrote: Does anybody have any idea as to why the following turned up at the forum? A poorly worded out of office message. I'll just go unsubscribe the offender - they can resubscribe when they return :) (Could future questions like this please go to the admin address at info@webboy.net ? No point burning list bandwidth with this sort of thing :)) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot WSG Core member ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] colour contrast analyser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a colour contrast analyser, useful for checking foreground background colour combinations is now available. (http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/contrast_analyser/index.html) This one doesn't need to be downloaded: http://www.juicystudio.com/services/colourcontrast.asp -- He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. John 11:25 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Question about vertical CSS navigation
G'day Is there an alternative to the one I use now at http://www.iamu-edu.org , that is(/was?, can't find it anymore) listed on Russ http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/listamatic/ page? Son of Suckerfish: http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/50.php Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] colour contrast analyser
Felix I know about the juicy studio tool i use it on a daily basis, there is also one from HP at http://h10014.www1.hp.com/accessibility/color_tool.html the reason why the exe was developed was to allow colour sampling which cannot be done using an online application. which saves me time trying to find the values of colours used on a page. It also gives results for various types of colour blindness which currently no online tool does. with regards Steven Faulkner Web Accessibility Consultant National Information Library Service (NILS) 454 Glenferrie Road Kooyong Victoria 3144 Phone: (613) 9864 9281 Fax: (613) 9864 9210 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Information Library Service A subsidiary of RBS.RVIB.VAF Ltd. |-+ | | Felix Miata | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | group.org| | || | || | | 04/02/2005 11:01 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | wsg | | || |-+ ---| | | | To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org | | cc: | | Subject: Re: [WSG] colour contrast analyser | ---| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a colour contrast analyser, useful for checking foreground background colour combinations is now available. (http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/contrast_analyser/index.html) This one doesn't need to be downloaded: http://www.juicystudio.com/services/colourcontrast.asp -- He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. John 11:25 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Gap between content and nav on events page in Firefox, looks fine in IE6
What gives? I have this small two-page site up for testing right now: http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/index.html The index page is fine but the events page shows a gap between the nav and the content area. This is in windows, FF1.0. IE6 shows both pages just fine. The CSS is here: http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/wiscrad/css/mainstyles.css Validated XHTML 1.1, CSS validated too. I probably have been deep into this so long I can't see the problem.. Any suggestions will be deeply appreciated. Leslie Riggs ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] ATO - shame shame shame...
I know this was awhile ago, but in case it hasn't been covered, you are unlikely to be able to sue as the Australian accessibility regulations come from the Disability Discrimination Act - they are discriminating against people using particular software, but not people because they have a disability. But you should definitely let them know. Let us know how it goes. Cheers, Gian PurpleTop has been acquired by iFocus: www.ifocus.com.au Gian Sampson-Wild iFocus Pty Limited Level 1, 450 St Kilda Road Melbourne Vic 3004 ph: + 61 3 8807 0100 | fx: +61 3 8807 0101 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.ifocus.com.au :: Australian Federal Government Endorsed Supplier :: Queensland Government Information Technology Contract (GITC) Endorsed Supplier :: Member of the Victorian Government eServices Panel :: Member of the Australian Government Information Management Office Web Management Panel (AGIMO) The information contained in this message is intended only for the recipient, may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please be aware that any dissemination or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. iFocus maintains up-to-date virus checking software and we recommend that you also employ resident virus protection. Our liability with respect to the transference of computer viruses is limited to resupplying the infected email or document again. Thank-you, iFocus Pty Limited. ABN 23 090 593 525 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Stratford Sent: Friday, 7 January 2005 2:01 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] ATO - shame shame shame... Thanks for all the replies! I wasn't serious about threatening to sue. It was just an expression of rage ;) Thanks for the pointers! I will definatly let them know! Cheers! James Ellis wrote: Chris Their minimum system requirements http://pki.ato.gov.au/atocdia/MinSysReq.htm suggest that Netscape 7.1 is supported. Given that this browser is basically Mozilla 1.4 it's probable that they have a faulty browser sniffer* Threatening to sue them because of a faulty browser sniffer is probably not a good idea. Maybe you can assist them by providing them with your Firefox/Mozilla user agent Its always good to look before leaping. HTH James *Using the User Agent extension and altering to Netscape 7.1 and IE 6 allows you to install their certificate. On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 03:16:34 +1100, Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I sue the ATO over this - like the SOCOG case. http://pki.ato.gov.au/atocdia/welcome.htm I can't get my digital certificate without installing IE again... It is GONE! I dont want it. I dont want NN either (its good, but I love my firefox)... Can they force me to download IE to complete my business registration? Can they not simply uphold web standards! Ahhh I am mad. I will call them - tell them to print it out or whatever it is. and mail it to me... Deary me... The government has failed again... :) -- Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.neester.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 3/01/2005 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.neester.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 6/01/2005 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help
Re: [WSG] standards and meta tags
[meta-data] Good Lord! You could spend your whole life devoted to this area! :-) you could, very easily. in fact, if you have major questions about meta-data i recommend asking a librarian :) when you get into serious meta-data and controlled vocabularies, you discover an entire industry. h -- --- http://cheshrkat.blogspot.com/ --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Is there any way to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?
Hello,
Does anybody knows how to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?
Style like this produces funny looking input field (see file attached)
div.row #txtAttachment {
width: 96%;
height: 2em;
}
Thank you in advance,
Irina.
www.ssw.com.au
attachment: FileInputFieldInFirefox.gif
Re: [WSG] colour contrast analyser
a colour contrast analyser, useful for checking foreground background colour combinations is now available. (http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/contrast_analyser/index.html) I like it. The colour picker is useful. But it seems you cannot manually enter HEX codes? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
