RE: [WSG] Is there any way to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?

2005-02-11 Thread Ricci Angela
Hi, Irina

Sorry, I misunderstood the problem (that's what happens when we read 
too fast :-(
I've found something about styling input=file on 
http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html.

I don't know the quality of the solution (I could not test it yet), but 
it worths the try.

Good luck!
Angela

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Angela,

Your suggestion is for input type=text. It does not work for input
type=file. See shots attached produced by the following style:

div#Attachment {width: 600px;background-color:yellow;border: 1px solid black;}
#txtAttachment {width:400px;background-color:red;text-align: right;}

Cheers, Irina.

On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:44:32 +0100, Ricci Angela
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 Terrence
 
 All you need to do is to give an id to the form field and define its 
 width on the CSS. It will work for all browers.
 
 input type=text id=ffield /
 
 CSS: #ffield {width: 100px;}
 
 Cheers!
 Ge RICCI
 
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 Styling file input is inconsistent cross browser and platform here
 is a work around:
 
 http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html
 
 Terrence Wood.
 
 Irina Ahrens wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Does anybody knows how to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?
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[WSG] IE fixed: PNG transparency working like Firefox???

2005-02-11 Thread JW
Hi,

A developer on my project showed me a site with a lot of PGNs using alpha 
transparency. Formely we had to include a piece of javascript to get it working 
the way we want in IE 6.x

Since the last patchday it seems that IE 6.x got a security update that fixed 
the alpha transparency issues as well.

Is there some one who can verify our findings?

Regards,

JW
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Re: [WSG] Is there any way to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?

2005-02-11 Thread James Ellis
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:25:52 +0100, Ricci Angela
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, Irina
 
 Sorry, I misunderstood the problem (that's what happens when we read 
 too fast :-(
 I've found something about styling input=file on 
 http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html.
 
 I don't know the quality of the solution (I could not test it yet), 
 but it worths the try.
 
 Good luck!
 Angela
 
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 Envoyé : jeudi 10 février 2005 13:14
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 Objet : Re: [WSG] Is there any way to set the width of a file input
 field in Firefox?
 
 Angela,
 
 Your suggestion is for input type=text. It does not work for input
 type=file. See shots attached produced by the following style:
 
 div#Attachment {width: 600px;background-color:yellow;border: 1px solid black;}
 #txtAttachment {width:400px;background-color:red;text-align: right;}
 
 Cheers, Irina.
 
 On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:44:32 +0100, Ricci Angela
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Terrence
 
  All you need to do is to give an id to the form field and define 
  its width on the CSS. It will work for all browers.
 
  input type=text id=ffield /
 
  CSS: #ffield {width: 100px;}
 
  Cheers!
  Ge RICCI
 
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  Objet : Re: [WSG] Is there any way to set the width of a file input
  field in Firefox?
 
  Styling file input is inconsistent cross browser and platform here
  is a work around:
 
  http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/inputfile.html
 
  Terrence Wood.
 
  Irina Ahrens wrote:
   Hello,
  
   Does anybody knows how to set the width of a file input field in Firefox?
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Re: [WSG] IE fixed: PNG transparency working like Firefox???

2005-02-11 Thread Zachary Hopkins
So far, IE 6.x on Windows supports PNG-8, which has index transparency.  
The only way I know of to make IE support alpha transparency is to use a 
javascript, such as Dean Edward's IE7, or to use Microsoft's proprietary 
filter: in CSS (Read more here: 
http://www.koivi.com/ie-png-transparency/).

Hope this helps. :-)
--Zachary
JW wrote:
Hi,
A developer on my project showed me a site with a lot of PGNs using alpha 
transparency. Formely we had to include a piece of javascript to get it working 
the way we want in IE 6.x
Since the last patchday it seems that IE 6.x got a security update that fixed 
the alpha transparency issues as well.
Is there some one who can verify our findings?
Regards,
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Re: [WSG] Why DO floats not stretch their containers?

2005-02-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Andreas Boehmer wrote:
Can you give an example of where standard-compliant browsers expand 
the outer container with a float as content?
I believe Roger pointed to the almost perfect example:
 http://www.complexspiral.com/publications/containing-floats/ 
Myself, being a heavy user of floats, simply forgot to point to the
obvious: floats will expand to contain floats, unless we fix the
container's dimensions in such a way that the content-float overflow its
container.
- Standard compliant browsers will respect the dimensions first, and
expand to contain other floats if allowed to.
- IE/win will need some negative margins on the content-float, to reduce
its actual dimensions, or dimensions set on the floating outer container
will not be respected.
Example: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_02_03.html
regards
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Re: [WSG] IE fixed: PNG transparency working like Firefox???

2005-02-11 Thread David R
JW wrote:
Hi,
A developer on my project showed me a site with a lot of PGNs using alpha 
transparency. Formely we had to include a piece of javascript to get it working 
the way we want in IE 6.x
Since the last patchday it seems that IE 6.x got a security update that fixed 
the alpha transparency issues as well.
Is there some one who can verify our findings?
Regards,
JW
http://pomtiedom.com
I posted this on Channel9, many of the IE devs regularly post there as well
Here's the responses so far:
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=40863
Doesn't look like
Are you sure you're not getting confused with PNG8 w/ Index Transparency?
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Re: [WSG] IE fixed: PNG transparency working like Firefox???

2005-02-11 Thread Dmitry Kudriavtsev
JW wrote:
Hi,
A developer on my project showed me a site with a lot of PGNs using alpha transparency. Formely we had to include a piece of javascript to get it working the way we want in IE 6.x 
[skipped]

I have uploaded all latest updates from WindowsUpdate to confirm what  
you wrote. PNG still doesn't work :(
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[WSG] Proper way to embed fonts?

2005-02-11 Thread Alan Trick
Hi,
I'm working on redesigning a company website to make it more accessable 
and I've done a pretty decent job with makeing everything scale with the 
font sizes, but I have one big problem.  Our company is developing a 
particular font that we want to use for our company name, a font that 
will be used on all our products.  So, either I put the text in an image 
(which is making me cringe already), or I find some way to enable our 
visitors to download the fonts automatically.  I did a little searching 
around and I found that there is a way to do that for certain versions 
of IE, but I was wondering if there was a way that works that I could do 
this that would work on all browsers, or at least NN4, IE=5, FF, Moz, 
Safari,  Opera.  Has the W3C created and standards to allow this to work?
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Re: [WSG] Safari and overflow:auto

2005-02-11 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 11 Feb 2005, at 11:34 am, Paul Ross wrote:
Hope this is not off-topic but I have a page that validates as XHTML
strict but it is breaking in Safari. This confirms my opinion that
Safari is the Victorian Parent of the browser world (ie: overly strict
IMO) but why would it break a perfectly valid page? I think it is
something to do with its handling of overflow: auto(?). See the right
column of graphics  links are munged in Safari. Works fine in Firefox
1.0 and IE6 and even IE5.2 on a MAC. Has anyone come across a problem
like this? Here's my test page if anyone has the time to point me in
the right direction...
http://www.skyrocket.com.au/Concepts/Grindley/BuildingProjects.html
It is not a problem with overflow:auto; but with Safari acting up on 
the ul adjacent to the floated images. Having the images part of the li 
should help fixing the problem.

Philippe
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Re: [WSG] Proper way to embed fonts?

2005-02-11 Thread Absalom Media
Alan Trick wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm working on redesigning a company website to make it more accessable
 and I've done a pretty decent job with makeing everything scale with the
 font sizes, but I have one big problem.  Our company is developing a
 particular font that we want to use for our company name, a font that
 will be used on all our products.  So, either I put the text in an image
 (which is making me cringe already), or I find some way to enable our
 visitors to download the fonts automatically.  I did a little searching
 around and I found that there is a way to do that for certain versions
 of IE, but I was wondering if there was a way that works that I could do
 this that would work on all browsers, or at least NN4, IE=5, FF, Moz,
 Safari,  Opera.  Has the W3C created and standards to allow this to work?

Alan,

Here are my suggestions for cross-browser font embedding:

sIFR
http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2.0-release-candidate-3

or:

sIIR
http://axisfive.net/aboutsiir/

I experimented with the MS WEFT tool on some design layouts before
finding I can deliver standards compliant font embedding with sIFR. sIIR
may be better suited for your company font as sIFR depreciates back to
CSS font calls when either Javascript or Flash isn't enabled.

Lawrence Meckan

Absalom Media
http://www.absalom.biz
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Re: [WSG] accessibilty and responsibility

2005-02-11 Thread Alan Trick
Ok, I see your point here, but I'm the web designer for a company.  Most 
of our customers probably wouldn't know what a 'browser' is and think 
that the 'e' is the is only way to 'download the internet'.  I can't 
simply forget my customers browsers without alienating them as well, 
because they have no clue what the issues are.

Tom Livingston wrote:
Giving users a reasonable time to upgrade to the latest-- and hopefully
best-- version of the browser of their choice, and then simply
forgetting to code for the older versions, is one way we can push (a
little) where it matters.

Ding, ding, ding... we have a winner!
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Re: [WSG] Proper way to embed fonts?

2005-02-11 Thread Alan Trick
Thanks for the resources.  I dont' think I can use sIIR cause we have an 
IIS server (as far as I could tell it's php only), but I'll try sIFR. Is 
they're any quick tutrials on how to implement it?

Absalom Media wrote:
Alan Trick wrote:
 

Hi,
I'm working on redesigning a company website to make it more accessable
and I've done a pretty decent job with makeing everything scale with the
font sizes, but I have one big problem.  Our company is developing a
particular font that we want to use for our company name, a font that
will be used on all our products.  So, either I put the text in an image
(which is making me cringe already), or I find some way to enable our
visitors to download the fonts automatically.  I did a little searching
around and I found that there is a way to do that for certain versions
of IE, but I was wondering if there was a way that works that I could do
this that would work on all browsers, or at least NN4, IE=5, FF, Moz,
Safari,  Opera.  Has the W3C created and standards to allow this to work?
   

Alan,
Here are my suggestions for cross-browser font embedding:
sIFR
http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2.0-release-candidate-3
or:
sIIR
http://axisfive.net/aboutsiir/
I experimented with the MS WEFT tool on some design layouts before
finding I can deliver standards compliant font embedding with sIFR. sIIR
may be better suited for your company font as sIFR depreciates back to
CSS font calls when either Javascript or Flash isn't enabled.
Lawrence Meckan
Absalom Media
http://www.absalom.biz
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Re: [WSG] ie INSANITY ... please help me

2005-02-11 Thread Mani Sheriar
note to all: IF IN DOUBT, add position:relative; -- it fixes many,
many IE bugs :)

POSITION:RELATIVE ... EUREKA!

I feel like such an eejit - I should have known!

I have already taken to adding position:relative to all my main divs,
don't know why I didn't think of it as a first step towards debugging
lower level elements.  Argh!

Thanks for the tip, Andrew.  You saved my bacon!

Mani Sheriar
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[WSG] help with mystery IE padding

2005-02-11 Thread Ted Drake
Hi All
I've been pounding my head against the desk for a while trying to figure
out why I'm getting a space between my h1 tag and the topnav.  It looks
fine in firefox, naturally, but in IE, there is about a 10px margin
between the h1 and ul#topnav.  This is visible by the jog in the blue
bar as it extends past the top nav.

http://tdrake.net/cruise/index.html


check out the nifty use of class=here to move the cruise ship around.
It's not exactly mind blowing, but should get a grin from the bosses.

I've tried using borders, changing heights, using !important to declare
0 margins, and removed whitespace in the code to see if those would fix
the issue.

I have validated the page already.  Thank you for any advice.


Ted

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Re: [WSG] accessibilty and responsibility

2005-02-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Trick wrote:
Ok, I see your point here, but I'm the web designer for a company. 
Most of our customers probably wouldn't know what a 'browser' is and 
think that the 'e' is the is only way to 'download the internet'.  I 
can't simply forget my customers browsers without alienating them 
as well, because they have no clue what the issues are.

Giving users a reasonable time to upgrade to the latest-- and 
hopefully best-- version of the browser of their choice, and then
 simply forgetting to code for the older versions, is one way 
we can push (a little) where it matters.
Once you know a site works well in the latest versions of Opera, Safari,
Gecko and so on-- and IE6-- and no one is shut out, then it is just a
question of going back and see if there's a version of any of these that
is less than a few months (or a reasonable timespan) older than the one
you have coded for. Maybe a small workaround is needed for one of those
'older' versions, but most likely not.
None of the older blue 'e' are within such a time frame, so their users
need a little hint that their more than 2 year old blue 'e' is in need
of an upgrade. If that happens to be a new blue 'e', so be it.
No one is suggesting you should forget IE6 (although we wouldn't mind
if we all could do just that ;-) ).
IE6 is the latest for those who wants to 'download the internet', so
it's about time they 'downloaded it'.
regards
Georg
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