Re: [WSG] clean forms with javascript injected for a site demo
Peter Ottery wrote: I consider this to be definately in the realm of best practices and at a stretch good xhtml practice, in terms of keeping the xhtml markup clean. (ie: i hope very much this isnt too off topic for this list :) If I understand correctly what you're looking for, take a look at: http://www.onlinetools.org/articles/unobtrusivejavascript/ anyone do/done this type of thing or can link to a resource? I tried searching but to no avail. Try searching for: unobtrusive javascript ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Title: Message Hi all, I have a couple of questions which some of you might be able to answer for me. http://www.startregistration.com The first banner with the logo has some icons that should turn into clickable areas. Q: should I use image maps or cut the image up? I believe I saw that its bad to use image maps, could be wrong here? Q: I had to add a few divs to the layout to be able to put some images on the scene, can anyone recommend something more semantically correct for them? In particular; div class="top" div id="content_bottom" Besides the above can someone see something that will not hold up in any other browser and if so, what is the fix? Thanks in advance. Taco Fleur - CEOPacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as AUSD$15 a year, .COM.AU for AUSD$50 two years! ** Seamless Merchant integration ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now!
RE: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Title: Message I hada look at it in Mozilla, and I guess I better rephrase my question, how to fix ALL these issues that appear in Mozilla? In mozilla nothing looks like it should, for example; - the register by phone image is not in the right position and outside of its column - the text after 1) of Domain Name Search is below where the rest is - white connects the two columns where the form element starts - the gray footer part is completely out of place what a disaster, any tips at all would be much appreciated. thanks Taco Fleur - CEOPacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as AUSD$15 a year, .COM.AU for AUSD$50 two years! ** Seamless Merchant integration ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now! -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur - Pacific FoxSent: Sunday, 16 October 2005 5:49 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc. Hi all, I have a couple of questions which some of you might be able to answer for me. http://www.startregistration.com The first banner with the logo has some icons that should turn into clickable areas. Q: should I use image maps or cut the image up? I believe I saw that its bad to use image maps, could be wrong here? Q: I had to add a few divs to the layout to be able to put some images on the scene, can anyone recommend something more semantically correct for them? In particular; div class="top" div id="content_bottom" Besides the above can someone see something that will not hold up in any other browser and if so, what is the fix? Thanks in advance. Taco Fleur - CEOPacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as AUSD$15 a year, .COM.AU for AUSD$50 two years! ** Seamless Merchant integration ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now!
Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Hi Taco, On 10/16/05, Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.startregistration.com Validate your HTML first - at least then you can eliminate HTML nesting errors as the cause of your problem. Then post back and we'll give you a hand. Cheers, K. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.zombiecoder.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Hi, Thanks, but that's what I did, whatever is there, does not make any sense to me at all, for example; Line 43 column 11: document type does not allow element H2 here; missing one of OBJECT, MAP, BUTTON start-tag. What does that mean? The rest is the same, what is it talking about that I can't put a p element in the place it is? Taco Fleur - CEO Pacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 . ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as AUSD$15 a year, .COM.AU for AUSD$50 two years! ** Seamless Merchant integration ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kay Smoljak Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2005 8:18 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc. Hi Taco, On 10/16/05, Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.startregistration.com Validate your HTML first - at least then you can eliminate HTML nesting errors as the cause of your problem. Then post back and we'll give you a hand. Cheers, K. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.zombiecoder.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
that means there's a nesting error.. start from the top and make sure everything is closed. K. On 10/16/05, Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but that's what I did, whatever is there, does not make any sense to me at all, for example; Line 43 column 11: document type does not allow element H2 here; missing one of OBJECT, MAP, BUTTON start-tag. What does that mean? The rest is the same, what is it talking about that I can't put a p element in the place it is? -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.zombiecoder.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox wrote: Thanks, but that's what I did, whatever is there, does not make any sense to me at all, for example; Line 43 column 11: document type does not allow element H2 here; missing one of OBJECT, MAP, BUTTON start-tag. What does that mean? If you keep reading the validator page, it provides further information I quote: One possible cause for this message is that you have attempted to put a block-level element (such as p or table) inside an inline element (such as a, span, or font). -- A quick glance at the code shows that the validator is spot on with its possible cause. Let me re-write it to suit: - The cause for this message is that you have attempted to put a block-level element (h2) inside an inline element (span). -- Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
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RE: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
OK, that's all new stuff to me, let me fix that. Taco Fleur - CEO Pacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 . ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as AUSD$15 a year, .COM.AU for AUSD$50 two years! ** Seamless Merchant integration ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bert Doorn Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2005 9:22 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc. Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox wrote: Thanks, but that's what I did, whatever is there, does not make any sense to me at all, for example; Line 43 column 11: document type does not allow element H2 here; missing one of OBJECT, MAP, BUTTON start-tag. What does that mean? If you keep reading the validator page, it provides further information I quote: One possible cause for this message is that you have attempted to put a block-level element (such as p or table) inside an inline element (such as a, span, or font). -- A quick glance at the code shows that the validator is spot on with its possible cause. Let me re-write it to suit: - The cause for this message is that you have attempted to put a block-level element (h2) inside an inline element (span). -- Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
All fixed, and the page still looks like a dogs breakfast in Mozilla. The first banner with the logo has some icons that should turn into clickable areas. Q: should I use image maps or cut the image up? I believe I saw that its bad to use image maps, could be wrong here? Q: I had to add a few divs to the layout to be able to put some images on the scene, can anyone recommend something more semantically correct for them? In particular; div class=top div id=content_bottom In mozilla nothing looks like it should, for example; - the register by phone image is not in the right position and outside of its column - the text after 1) of Domain Name Search is below where the rest is - white connects the two columns where the form element starts - the gray footer part is completely out of place Any hints as to how I can fix any of the above would be much appreciated, besides that in the future I should start with Mozilla and then IE. Thanks, Taco Fleur - CEO Pacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 . ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as AUSD$15 a year, .COM.AU for AUSD$50 two years! ** Seamless Merchant integration ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bert Doorn Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2005 9:22 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc. Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox wrote: Thanks, but that's what I did, whatever is there, does not make any sense to me at all, for example; Line 43 column 11: document type does not allow element H2 here; missing one of OBJECT, MAP, BUTTON start-tag. What does that mean? If you keep reading the validator page, it provides further information I quote: One possible cause for this message is that you have attempted to put a block-level element (such as p or table) inside an inline element (such as a, span, or font). -- A quick glance at the code shows that the validator is spot on with its possible cause. Let me re-write it to suit: - The cause for this message is that you have attempted to put a block-level element (h2) inside an inline element (span). -- Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Q: should I use image maps or cut the image up? I believe I saw that its bad to use image maps, could be wrong here? Cut the image up, image maps are server side if my memory serves me right and I don't think anybody has used has really them since 1996, because it is quicker to slice up an image. -- Nick Cowie http://nickcowie.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Nick Cowie wrote: Cut the image up, image maps are server side if my memory serves me right You can have server-side and client side maps. Server-side ones are frowned upon and not really used anymore, but client side maps work quite nicely and even accessibly...just give an adequate alt attribute to the various area .../ elements. -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] javascripts and standards
Hi, I want to start learning coding JS, but as usual I want to stick with the standards, I know there is a lot of tutorials out there, but I'm looking for a book, do you recommend any book about coding with Js without breaking standards? or what do you think of those books DHTML Utopia Modern Web Design Using JavaScript DOM and Professional JavaScript for Web Developers (Wrox Professional Guides) Thank you in advance -- Regards Jad madi Blog http://EasyHTTP.com/jad/ Web standards Planet http://W3planet.net/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards
Jad Madi wrote: I know there is a lot of tutorials out there, but I'm looking for a book, do you recommend any book about coding with Js without breaking standards? I'd go for Jeremy Keith's new DOM Scripting book http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590595335/103-7301643-7270227 -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards
2005/10/16, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jad Madi wrote: I know there is a lot of tutorials out there, but I'm looking for a book, do you recommend any book about coding with Js without breaking standards? I'd go for Jeremy Keith's new DOM Scripting book http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590595335/103-7301643-7270227 At @media I did ask Jeremy which book would he recommend - his or DHTML Utopia His advice was that later was for more advanced developers, and his was more introductionary. I own DHML Utopia..., highly recommended. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards
Jad Madi wrote: I want to start learning coding JS, but as usual I want to stick with the standards, I know there is a lot of tutorials out there, but I'm looking for a book, It's important to realize that JavaScript programing and DOM scripting are two different things. As ist happens, DOM scripting is a common use for JavaScript and JavaScript its the most commonly use language for DOM scripting. JavaScript is a full-fledged, object oriented programing language. (Note: It's not class based as most common OOPs are; rather, it's prototype based.) In the future you're likely to see more and more applications using JavaScript as its scripting language. do you recommend any book about coding with Js without breaking standards? One of the best books on JavaScript is: JavaScript: The Definitive Guide, by David Flanagan (O'Reilly Associates, Inc.) I have the 3rd ed., which is somewhat dated (1998), but still quite good. I've looked at the 4th ed., and it does a good job of bringing the material up to date. While the books is an excellent guide to JavaScript programing, it assumes previous programing knowledge. or what do you think of those books DHTML Utopia Modern Web Design Using JavaScript DOM I've read so good reviews. and Professional JavaScript for Web Developers (Wrox Professional Guides) Don't know. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards
Hi Mordechai and all, You wrote: or what do you think of those books DHTML Utopia Modern Web Design Using JavaScript DOM I've read so good reviews. I have that book and find it a bit disappointing--I tried out some of the ideas and find that, 1. Browser variations are such as to make it unlikely that using listeners in your JavaScript code instead of onmousewhatever attributes can now be a useful step in separating content from behavior in your pages. With a three-step conditional you can get most of the PC users but perhaps not Safari users; this engenders a lot more code and is not easier to keep track of than the bad old way is. Note that I am still trying and will have to have a session with a Mac type (in my family) across town to check it out. Of course the conversion of the BODY onLoad attribute to a listener does appear to work well, but that's not so new. 2. Some of the effects claimed don't seem to work at all, at least not on my setup, trying them in IE6 SP2 and Mozilla 1.7. Probably not a bad book so much as ahead of its time and a little too optimistic (about where CSS was six years ago LOL). I do use JavaScript, going well beyond what is OK for Web use, for my local apps. Web site authors need to be careful to use JavaScript only to add bells and whistles (rather than content) to allow for the many users running without scripting, many to avoid security threats. Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Hi Taco, SINGLE IMAGE vs MULTIPLE IMAGES A single image loads faster than the same cut into separate images. HTTP requires a new connection to be made to the server for each file (i.e. image). Even when the single image filesize is the same as the sum of the individual files, reconnecting to download each file introduces noticeable 'lag' (obviously more noticeable on dial-up than cable). Cheers, -- Andy Kirkwood | Creative Director Motive | web.design.integrity http://www.motive.co.nz ph: (04) 3 800 800 fx: (04) 970 9693 mob: 021 369 693 93 Rintoul St, Newtown PO Box 7150, Wellington South, New Zealand ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Advanced CSS Training and Publications
Hi, Although I've worked with CSS for quite sometime, I've just scratched the surface of advanced CSS solutions. After ogling Amazon for the better part of the morning I've only mustered a throbbing headache. So many publications and only conflicting opinions surrounding their usefulness. So I'm appealing to the list for suggestions on advanced CSS publications and on-line training. Respectfully, Chris ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Andy Kirkwood | Motive wrote: SINGLE IMAGE vs MULTIPLE IMAGES A single image loads faster than the same cut into separate images. At last...I thought I was the only one in the know with this tiny yet often misunderstood piece of info. It only gives the illusion to be faster to the user (questionably) because there's at least some bits and bobs appearing onscreen over a slow connection, rather than having to wait for the entire thing...but it is indeed quicker overall to just have a single image. -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Advanced CSS Training and Publications
Jeffrey Zeldman's is a good one. I've heard Eric Meyers is too. On 16 Oct 2005, at 22:08, Chris Kennon wrote: Hi, Although I've worked with CSS for quite sometime, I've just scratched the surface of advanced CSS solutions. After ogling Amazon for the better part of the morning I've only mustered a throbbing headache. So many publications and only conflicting opinions surrounding their usefulness. So I'm appealing to the list for suggestions on advanced CSS publications and on-line training. Respectfully, Chris ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards
On 10/17/05, Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the best books on JavaScript is: JavaScript: The Definitive Guide, by David Flanagan (O'Reilly Associates, Inc.) Couldn't agree more. A fantastic reference manual that will remain on my desk for years to come. Here's the complete 4th edition online: http://157.26.64.29/OReilly_books/books/webprog/jscript/index.htm found via: http://www.maththinking.com/boat/booksIndex.html I *believe* it's legal... fingers crossed! -Andrew.
Re: [WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
On 10/15/05, Stefan wrote:
How can I make the Table fill the full width of the column in FireFox and
IE 6?
same thing happened to me with that type of layout.
I added the following rules to the tables and it sorted it for me:
table {width:100%;float:left}
cheers,
pete
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RE: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Andy Kirkwood wrote: A single image loads faster than the same cut into separate images. HTTP requires a new connection to be made to the server for each file (i.e. image). Even when the single image filesize is the same as the sum of the individual files, reconnecting to download each file introduces noticeable 'lag' (obviously more noticeable on dial-up than cable). Not necessarily. Different parts of the image may lend themselves to different compression techniques and file formats. Separating a part of the image that has more detail or a different colour palette can mean the rest of the image can be compressed much more efficiently. But it is better to separate into layers rather than slices. cheers, Geoff ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Advanced CSS Training and Publications
Books CSS by examples I own both these and they are good to work through, I have learnt from both books. More Eric Meyer on CSS by Eric Meyer The Zen of CSS Design by Dave Shea and Molly Holzschlag Courses: West Civ http://www.westciv.com/courses/index.html there is even a free one to tempt you in. Resources http://www.csszengarden.com 185+ css files to see how the experts deal with css issues http://css.maxdesign.com.au/ http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/ great tutorials http://alistapart.com lots of articles on anything to with CSS http://positioniseverything.net/ the problem solvers -- Nick Cowie http://nickcowie.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards
On 17/10/05 8:01 AM, Andrew Krespanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/17/05, Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the best books on JavaScript is: JavaScript: The Definitive Guide, by David Flanagan (O'Reilly Associates, Inc.) Couldn't agree more. A fantastic reference manual that will remain on my desk for years to come. Here's the complete 4th edition online: http://157.26.64.29/OReilly_books/books/webprog/jscript/index.htm fou nd via: http://www.maththinking.com/boat/booksIndex.html I *believe* it's legal... fingers crossed! -Andrew. �� ��.�Ȩ� b�� i��y�-jwZ�� ������I 瀆�i��y�-jwZ�� ������f���.�ץ�w����+�xb���p)��b�-� ax b����)��� Well, having just read this: http://157.26.64.29/OReilly_books/books/webprog/jscript/copyrght.htm ... I suspect that it's not (legal, that is). -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards
Andrew Krespanis wrote: Here's the complete 4th edition online: http://157.26.64.29/OReilly_books/books/webprog/jscript/index.htm found via: http://www.maththinking.com/boat/booksIndex.html I *believe* it's legal... fingers crossed! and the Tooth Fairy, I suppose? ;-) f you have found this CD Bookshelf on the web, or it is a copy of an original, then you have an unauthorized, infringing copy. Authorized, lawful, non-infringing copies of this product can be purchased from O'Reilly Associates, Inc. and I see Kevin Futter has just posted the URL for the above statement mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Web page check
This tool might help: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A//www.jimjacobe.com/ClassDescriptions.html Alan Trick GALLAGHER Kevin S wrote: First off the site was designed before Firefox and was my first site. Now I have been seeing things were Firefox is displaying something’s differently then IE which is fine except one thing. On http://www.jimjacobe.com/ClassDescriptions.html I have listed classes for an instructor, items 2, 4 and 5 (some others farther down have the same issue) have text positioned incorrectly in Firefox but look correct in IE, specifically the content starting “An” in the first two problem areas. If someone can look at this and tell me what needs to be done to fix this. Not necessarily looking for the fix code wise but more of is this a syntax issue or something I simple did wrong and IE is doing it’s thing to fix things. Thanks for taking the time to look at this page and if possible provide some feed back Kevin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc.
Taco, First Tip: I would start over (CSS-wise) and work on getting getting it right in Mozilla/Firefox first, then look at the other browsers next. When you code for IE first, you'll always have a number of mysteries to solve. Other tip: When having troubles, always go back to the raw code and slowly rebuild your CSS until the error creeps up. Then you'll know exactly what the error is. You'll be surprised just how much you'll learn about the browser bugs this way. Lastly - Whenever I code a page, I usually have Firefox, IE and Opera open to test every change I make as I build the page. Yes, its more time-consuming, but at least I know everything is rendering right. I'm on a PC, so I have to hope and pray for Safari and IE to be good. Generally though, if Opera likes it, it must be pretty darn correct! Hopefully this helps! Joseph R. B. Taylor Sites by Joe, LLC 408 Route 47 South Cape May Court House, NJ 08210 (609) 335-3076 http://sitesbyjoe.com Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox wrote: All right, image map is pretty clear, nothing to worry about there, thanks. Anyone care to comment on the other issues? Cheers, Taco Fleur - CEO Pacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 . ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .COM for as low as AUSD$15 a year, .COM.AU for AUSD$50 two years! ** Seamless Merchant integration ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke Sent: Monday, 17 October 2005 7:10 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Couple of question - Image Map etc. Andy Kirkwood | Motive wrote: SINGLE IMAGE vs MULTIPLE IMAGES A single image loads faster than the same cut into separate images. At last...I thought I was the only one in the know with this tiny yet often misunderstood piece of info. It only gives the illusion to be faster to the user (questionably) because there's at least some bits and bobs appearing onscreen over a slow connection, rather than having to wait for the entire thing...but it is indeed quicker overall to just have a single image. -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re.dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards
Andrew Krespanis wrote: Here's the complete 4th edition online: http://157.26.64.29/OReilly_books/books/webprog/jscript/index.htm found via: http://www.maththinking.com/boat/booksIndex.html I *believe* it's legal... fingers crossed! and the Tooth Fairy, I suppose? ;-) f you have found this CD Bookshelf on the web, or it is a copy of an original, then you have an unauthorized, infringing copy. Authorized, lawful, non-infringing copies of this product can be purchased from O'Reilly Associates, Inc. and I see Kevin Futter has just posted the URL for the above statement mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards
My sincerest apologies to the group regarding the links in my previous post. Youthful naivety shines through once more :-o Please keep any further abuse off-list; it's not relevant to the thread. :) On 10/17/05, Mark Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Krespanis wrote: Here's the complete 4th edition online: http://157.26.64.29/OReilly_books/books/webprog/jscript/index.htm found via: http://www.maththinking.com/boat/booksIndex.html I *believe* it's legal... fingers crossed! and the Tooth Fairy, I suppose? ;-) f you have found this CD Bookshelf on the web, or it is a copy of an original, then you have an unauthorized, infringing copy. Authorized, lawful, non-infringing copies of this product can be purchased from O'Reilly Associates, Inc. and I see Kevin Futter has just posted the URL for the above statement mark ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- http://leftjustified.net/ ~ Show me one user that actually needs a 'reset' button on a web form and I'll show you 50 that clicked it by mistake and left your site in disgust. :)
