Re: [WSG] accessible fluid button

2008-04-04 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  YUI button from Yahoo http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/button/

How exactly is a button created with JavaScript accessible?


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Re: [WSG] accessible fluid button

2008-04-04 Thread David Dorward


On 4 Apr 2008, at 09:39, Matthew Pennell wrote:
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

YUI button from Yahoo http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/button/



How exactly is a button created with JavaScript accessible?



Use the from markup methods described there.

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RE: [WSG] Software to read aloud web pages (targetted at literacy issues not vision issues)

2008-04-04 Thread michael.brockington
This has been possible on every Apple Mac for the last fifteen years or
so, and you have the option of changing the voice if you want,
unfortunately the good versions that are available for Windows are all
relatively expensive.

Regards,
Mike


-Original Message-
 Someone's asked me about software that will read aloud from a web 
 page, in a user friendly way, to be used by secondary students whose 
 reading age is low  prevents them being able to access the content.


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Re: [WSG] Software to read aloud web pages (targetted at literacy issues not vision issues)

2008-04-04 Thread Simon Moss

Rebecca Cox wrote:

Someone's asked me about software that will read aloud from a web
page, in a user friendly way
Hi Rebecca - I don't know if you're aware of the Voice facility in Opera 
9 - you have to enable Voice Controlled browsing in the preferences 
which means you download a 10.5 MB file, but then you just highlight 
text you want to have read out, hold Scroll Lock and press V and it is 
read out.


Sadly it is in an American accent - but you can choose the gender of the 
voice and modify it a little. You're probably looking for something a 
little more advanced than this - but thought I'd point it out as it is 
so quick and easy!


HTH,

Simon


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[WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread James Jeffery
I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and
Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use
BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell
purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us
developers?

This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back
when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and
caused friction for many developers.


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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread kevin mcmonagle

I think its  very handy even though i hardcode most stuff.
Its good for organizing your work flow, with document tabs and what not.
The code is pretty clean these days and theres a good built in validator.
I think even object embedding (.flvs and what not) is pretty unobtrusive.

Sorry if thats off topic.


James Jeffery wrote:
I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and 
Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use 
BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might 
aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good 
for us developers?
 
This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because 
back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out 
your code and caused friction for many developers.


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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread Frank Palinkas
Hi James,

It may also be worth looking at Microsoft's Visual Studio 2008 Web Designer
Express Edition - it's completely free (It has nothing to do with the
Expression series of tools). It has IDE Source Code Editors for (X)HTML,
XML, CSS, and JavaScript, etc. You can also download the limited MSDN
Library that accompanies it, also free of charge. There is no proprietary
code injection, and you can set a markup specification for cursory
validation as you write.

http://www.microsoft.com/express/vwd/

Apologies if considered off-topic.

Kind regards,

Frank

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 I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and
 Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use
 BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell
 purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us
 developers?

 This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back
 when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and
 caused friction for many developers.

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RE: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread Ted Drake
I use Dreamweaver in code view. However, it makes it easy to convert a
semantic marked-up word document into valid code, is easy to organize code,
and I am used to the key commands.

That probably describes dozens of editors for different people. 

If it comes with a package, you're in good shape. If not, you may want to
consider cheaper options

Ted

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Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:48 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

I think its  very handy even though i hardcode most stuff.
Its good for organizing your work flow, with document tabs and what not.
The code is pretty clean these days and theres a good built in validator.
I think even object embedding (.flvs and what not) is pretty unobtrusive.

Sorry if thats off topic.


James Jeffery wrote:
 I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and 
 Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use 
 BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might 
 aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good 
 for us developers?
  
 This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because 
 back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out 
 your code and caused friction for many developers.

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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread Ben Dodson
If you're using a mac then I must highly recommend TextMate (
http://macromates.com/) as the best text-editor I've ever used.  It has full
syntax highlighting but it's real power comes with snippets, code blocks
you can program yourself.  For example I can type if and press tab and it
will automatically change to if ($var) { } whilst pressing tab again
highlights to each variable or block allowing you to overwrite it.  You can
write your own which makes it incredibly powerful and there are hundreds
built in for all sorts of different programming languages!
I've been using it for around a year and a half now and have never had any
problems - it's also very cheap in comparison to other editors.  If you're
using Windows, then someone wrote a port of TextMate called E-Texteditor
which can be got from http://e-texteditor.com/ - again very good (not quite
as good as TextMate) and allows you to use the snippets and bundles from
TextMate which makes it good in a development environment with multiple
OS's.

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On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I use Dreamweaver in code view. However, it makes it easy to convert a
 semantic marked-up word document into valid code, is easy to organize
 code,
 and I am used to the key commands.

 That probably describes dozens of editors for different people.

 If it comes with a package, you're in good shape. If not, you may want to
 consider cheaper options

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle
 Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:48 PM
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

 I think its  very handy even though i hardcode most stuff.
 Its good for organizing your work flow, with document tabs and what not.
 The code is pretty clean these days and theres a good built in validator.
 I think even object embedding (.flvs and what not) is pretty unobtrusive.

 Sorry if thats off topic.


 James Jeffery wrote:
  I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and
  Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use
  BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might
  aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good
  for us developers?
 
  This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because
  back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out
  your code and caused friction for many developers.
 
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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread Jason Pruim


On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:19 AM, James Jeffery wrote:

I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and  
Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i  
use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might  
aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good  
for us developers?


This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does  
because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it  
bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers.


I used dreamweaver for a little bit until my development turned more  
towards programming in PHP, I didn't like how dreamweaver showed the  
PHP (If at all actually...) so now I use XCode which is part of the  
developer tools for Macs and is free. It has syntax highlighting for  
just about every kind of language out there and works great for me.



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RE: [WSG] Opera files antitrust ... ADMIN

2008-04-04 Thread Erickson, Kevin (DOE)
What is the address to the WSG forum? What is your email off-list? Could
you please give us detailed information that you refer to in future
distributions so that I do not have to bother you? ;)

Thank you very much,

Kevin Erickson

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ADMIN:

THREAD CLOSED

This has long ceased to be a discussion on standards and has become a
political debate. Feel free to move it the the WSG forum or off list if
you wish to continue, but no longer on list.

Please do not reply to or continue this thread. If you have an issue
with the closing of this thread, email me off-list.

Thank you
Russ
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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread Michael Horowitz
I use dreamweaver for my (x)html coding.  Even though I primarily do 
hand coding but like it to see what my visual looks like.  When I get to 
PHP I switch to Crimson Editor.  


Michael Horowitz
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Jason Pruim wrote:


On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:19 AM, James Jeffery wrote:

I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and 
Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i 
use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might 
aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good 
for us developers?


This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because 
back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out 
your code and caused friction for many developers.


I used dreamweaver for a little bit until my development turned more 
towards programming in PHP, I didn't like how dreamweaver showed the 
PHP (If at all actually...) so now I use XCode which is part of the 
developer tools for Macs and is free. It has syntax highlighting for 
just about every kind of language out there and works great for me.



--

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Raoset Inc.
Technology Manager
MQC Specialist
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Holland, MI, 49424-9337
www.raoset.com
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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread Ian Chamberlain
James, why not take advantage of the free 30 trial of Dreamweaver?

  - Original Message - 
  From: James Jeffery 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:19 PM
  Subject: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3


  I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, 
as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im 
thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative 
suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers?

  This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back 
when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and 
caused friction for many developers.

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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread fiona herbert
Hi James.
I am new to the developing world. I do have dreamweaver cs3 and think it is
absolutely great and would recommend it to anyone.
Regards
Fi


On 4/4/08, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and
 Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use
 BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell
 purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us
 developers?

 This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back
 when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and
 caused friction for many developers.

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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread Michael Horowitz
One thing to realize is dreamweaver does often use non web standard 
rules for creating HTML.  While it can help you create code it is not a 
substitution for knowing code.


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fiona herbert wrote:

Hi James.
I am new to the developing world. I do have dreamweaver cs3 and think 
it is absolutely great and would recommend it to anyone.

Regards
Fi

 
On 4/4/08, *James Jeffery* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and
Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i
use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i
might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver
any good for us developers?
 
This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does

because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it
bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers.

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[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2008-04-04 Thread Kittle, Jere (DOE)
I am out of the office until Monday, April 7. If you need immediate assistance 
contact Julie Grimes or Mark Best.


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[WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch

2008-04-04 Thread Kristine Cummins
Can someone tell me how to fix this W3C warning - I'm new to understanding
this part.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beverlywilson.com%2F
 
Thanks! 


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Re: [WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch

2008-04-04 Thread Tim Offenstein

At 1:16 PM -0700 4/4/08, Kristine Cummins wrote:
Can someone tell me how to fix this W3C warning - I'm new to 
understanding this part.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beverlywilson.com%2Fhttp://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beverlywilson.com%2F

Thanks!



In the header of your HTML should be a line like this - meta 
http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /. Your 
server is sending an HTTP header that tells browsers to use the 
ISO-8859-1 character set, hence the mismatch. You can fix it by 
changing the line in your HTML to charset=iso-8859-1. However I 
always recommend instead using utf-8 because it's broader. ISO-8859-1 
is actually a subset of utf-8. You'll have to talk to your server 
admin to change the HTTP header I believe.


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RE: [WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch

2008-04-04 Thread Kepler Gelotte
 Can someone tell me how to fix this W3C warning - I'm new to understanding
this part.
 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beverlywilson.com%2F

 

Change this tag in your head section:

 

meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /

 

To:

 

meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset= iso-8859-1 /

 

Best regards,

Kepler Gelotte

Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.

156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854

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phone/fax: (732) 302-0904

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RE: [WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch

2008-04-04 Thread Kristine Cummins
FIXED. The URL below will not show any warnings now.
 
Thanks again.
 
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Behalf Of Tim Offenstein
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch
 
At 1:16 PM -0700 4/4/08, Kristine Cummins wrote:
Can someone tell me how to fix this W3C warning - I'm new to understanding
this part.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beverlywilson.com%2F
 
Thanks!
 
 
In the header of your HTML should be a line like this - meta
http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /. Your server
is sending an HTTP header that tells browsers to use the ISO-8859-1
character set, hence the mismatch. You can fix it by changing the line in
your HTML to charset=iso-8859-1. However I always recommend instead using
utf-8 because it's broader. ISO-8859-1 is actually a subset of utf-8. You'll
have to talk to your server admin to change the HTTP header I believe.
 
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RE: [WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch

2008-04-04 Thread Andrew Cunningham
 

The advice below is sufficient if your content is limited to characters in
the ISO-8859-1 repertoire If you are using any characters outside this
repertoire on the site, then i wouldn't use this approach.

As
indicated in a previous email, you could ask your web master to change the
default configuration of the Apache server. Unlikely to happen if other
sites are hosted on server since it may negatively impact on other
sites.

An alternative would be to use a .htaccess file. if the
administrators allow you to do this.

Info on this approach is
available at http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-htaccess-charset


Andrew


On Sat, April 5, 2008 6:52 am, Kepler
Gelotte wrote:
 Can someone tell me how to fix this W3C
warning - I'm new to
 understanding
 this part.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beverlywilson.com%2F
 
 
 
 Change this tag in your
head section:
 
 
 
 meta
http-equiv=content-type content=text/html;
charset=utf-8 /
 
 
 

To:
 
 
 
 meta
http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=
iso-8859-1
 /
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Kepler Gelotte
 
 Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.
 
 156 Normandy Dr.,
Piscataway, NJ 08854
 
 
http://www.neighborwebmaster.com www.neighborwebmaster.com
 
 phone/fax: (732) 302-0904
 

Thanks!
 
 

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[WSG] SMTP

2008-04-04 Thread Alexander Uribe
 
 
Hi 
 
I have just built a website that has a form page with a Submit button.
 
I want to be able to recieve information without Outlook express popping up.
 
One of my lecturer's advised me I needed the SMTP number from the host and then 
add in some code, however i cant find any information of how to set it all up.
 
Can anyone help?
 
Much appreciated
 
A.U
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Re: [WSG] Character Encoding Mismatch

2008-04-04 Thread Nikita The Spider The Spider
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Kristine Cummins
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 Can someone tell me how to fix this W3C warning – I'm new to understanding
 this part.
  http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.beverlywilson.com%2F

Kristine,
If your server is already specifying the character set (a.k.a.
encoding) then you don't need to do so in your HTML. In fact, I'd
recommend against doing so, and the problem you've experienced is
exactly why. If you specify the encoding in two (or more) places, they
can get out of synch. You might *think* you're specifying ISO-8859-1
because that's what your HTML META tag says, but if the server says
something else, that's what takes priority.

It's important to understand that the encoding tells browsers (and
other user agents, like Googlebot) how to interpret non-ASCII
characters in your page. It's a common mistake to think that these are
restricted to accented characters that we generally don't use in
English, but content pasted in from Microsoft Word (for instance) is
likely to contain non-ASCII as well. In other words, you might be
using them without realizing it. If you are, and you get the encoding
wrong, then what you see as quote marks (for instance) might look like
this to others: â€

Whatever tool you're using to save files should give you a choice of
which encoding/character set to use. You can use ISO-8859-1 to write
in English and most Western European languages. Since your Web server
is already identifying your pages as such, it might be a good choice.
Others have suggested UTF-8 which can represent anything under the
sun. That's great, but you'll have to find some way to cajole your
server into telling the world that your pages are UTF-8, not
ISO-8859-1. If you can't, you'll have to stick to the latter.

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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3

2008-04-04 Thread Naveen Bhaskar
H james...

If you want to code visually ..dreamweaver cs3 is a good option.It has a
very good css editor also.I use both dreamweaver and microsoft visual studio
for my coding and I feel both are good.
but always check manually for web standards :-)

I suggest you to download the trial versions and have a try on both
products I am sure you are gonna love both  ..

regards
navii


On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Michael Horowitz 
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  One thing to realize is dreamweaver does often use non web standard rules
 for creating HTML.  While it can help you create code it is not a
 substitution for knowing code.

 Michael Horowitz
 Your Computer Consultanthttp://yourcomputerconsultant.com
 561-394-9079



 fiona herbert wrote:

 Hi James.
 I am new to the developing world. I do have dreamweaver cs3 and think it
 is absolutely great and would recommend it to anyone.
 Regards
 Fi


 On 4/4/08, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and
  Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use
  BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell
  purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us
  developers?
 
  This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because
  back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code
  and caused friction for many developers.
 
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