Re: [WSG] IE6 background image positioning problem
Hmm...
Wouldn't it be much easier to wrap the site in a wrapper, use a full with
header div (instead of the tabel you're using now) and then float a
navigation div and a content div underneath them?
div id=wrapper
div id=header
!-- your header stuff goes here --
!-- header --/div
div id=navigation
!-- your nav stuff goes here --
!-- navigation --/div
div id=content
!-- your content goes here --
!-- content --/div
div id=footer
!-- your footer goes here --
!-- footer --/div
!-- wrapper --/div
CSS:
div#wrapper { width: 780px;}
div#header {width: 780px;}
div#navigation {width: 192px; float: left;}
div#content {width: 588px; float: left;}
div#footer {width: 780px; clear both;}
When that's done, you can just stick the background image to your #content
div.
Hope this helps.
Matijs
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi there
I'm sure I should know how to fix this but I can't!
http://crunchie.tedi.uq.edu.au/trials/UCTLC/index6.html
http://crunchie.tedi.uq.edu.au/trials/UCTLC/uctlc6.css
That big image on the right is a bg image in a container that has absolute
positioning. It works fine in Firefox on my Mac, but IE6 it drops down.
I've
tried conditional comments taking out the vertical position on the image
but
it does nothing.
Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks
susie
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Re: [WSG] IE6 background image positioning problem
Susie Gardner-Brown wrote:
http://crunchie.tedi.uq.edu.au/trials/UCTLC/index6.html
That big image on the right is a bg image in a container that has
absolute positioning. It works fine in Firefox on my Mac, but IE6 it
drops down.
Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong?
You're trying to fixed-position a background, which I don't think you
really want since that means the background is positioned relative to
the browser-window - not the page.
Anyway, IE6 can't handle fixed backgrounds on regular elements inside
body, so it is absolute positioning that background.
Change to...
#entryContainer {
background: #FFF url(entry-bg.jpg) no-repeat 193px 0;
}
...and IE6 will line up with the other browsers - or rather the other
way around but with all parts in the correct places.
regards
Georg
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Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV
can we see an example? Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of the Body one, but is only a fixed height Basically, they need to match up where they meet, which is working fine in Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. The only place it's having an issue is IE6 7. I know what the problem is; the background is centred and the width of your browser can be an odd or even number, so it can't sit dead centre all the time. If I drag the browser in to resize it, the backgrounds keep matching up then falling out of place. I have solved this before without adding an extra div for the body background, but I just can't remember how I did it. Does anyone have an idea? Thanks Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV
Thanks for your reply Adam. I can't really put what's I have now due to copyright restrictions, or I would have. I was hoping someone had encountered this before and would know the answer. I'll have to try and set up a dummy page later today when I have more time. Thanks Paul 2008/5/15 Adam Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: can we see an example? Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of the Body one, but is only a fixed height Basically, they need to match up where they meet, which is working fine in Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. The only place it's having an issue is IE6 7. I know what the problem is; the background is centred and the width of your browser can be an odd or even number, so it can't sit dead centre all the time. If I drag the browser in to resize it, the backgrounds keep matching up then falling out of place. I have solved this before without adding an extra div for the body background, but I just can't remember how I did it. Does anyone have an idea? Thanks Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV
Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of the Body one, but is only a fixed height Basically, they need to match up where they meet, which is working fine in Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. The only place it's having an issue is IE6 7. I know what the problem is; the background is centred and the width of your browser can be an odd or even number, so it can't sit dead centre all the time. If I drag the browser in to resize it, the backgrounds keep matching up then falling out of place. I have solved this before without adding an extra div for the body background, but I just can't remember how I did it. Does anyone have an idea? Thanks Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Footer problem!
Hi All, This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it to stay in the same position through each page. I think it is something to do with the way i have coded the text on my page; Here is the link to the site http://www.jungle-systems.com/~mip/companyprofile.html Could anyone have a look for me please. Cheers James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Footer problem!
Are you worried about the text overlapping the footer? If so, try this:
div#footer {
background-color:#2D2D2D;
border-top:1px solid #00;
clear:both;
height:100px;
width:100%;
}
Cheers
Adam
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james wrote:
Hi All,
This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it to
stay in the same position through each page.
I think it is something to do with the way i have coded the text on my
page;
Here is the link to the site
http://www.jungle-systems.com/~mip/companyprofile.html
Could anyone have a look for me please.
Cheers James
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Re: [WSG] Footer problem!
You need to clear the float caused by id=footer and possibly place your footer div outside of id=main-content b/c once you clear the float the 266px padding you have on main-content will affect the footer. If you don't want to move the footer div take the padding off of main-content and put a margin style on your mainimage and mainflash divs to get your image in the right place. Best Regards, Nate Hanna On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:05 AM, james [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it to stay in the same position through each page. I think it is something to do with the way i have coded the text on my page; Here is the link to the site http://www.jungle-systems.com/~mip/companyprofile.htmlhttp://www.jungle-systems.com/%7Emip/companyprofile.html Could anyone have a look for me please. Cheers James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Footer problem!
Also James you have used the same ID of 'footer' on the div and the
paragraph.
ID's should only be used once on a page. That will cause problems too.
Darren Lovelock
Munky Online Web Design
http://www.munkyonline.co.uk
T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Adam Martin
Sent: 15 May 2008 12:20
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Footer problem!
Are you worried about the text overlapping the footer? If so, try this:
div#footer {
background-color:#2D2D2D;
border-top:1px solid #00;
clear:both;
height:100px;
width:100%;
}
Cheers
Adam
-
james wrote:
Hi All,
This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it to
stay in the same position through each page.
I think it is something to do with the way i have coded the text on my
page;
Here is the link to the site
http://www.jungle-systems.com/~mip/companyprofile.html
Could anyone have a look for me please.
Cheers James
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Re: [WSG] Footer problem!
I just added that CSS, so i could see where the is was positioned,
however i can see that it moves around on each page, i am not sure why
it does this, it is supposed to be at the bottom of the page in the
center fixed.
Cheers
Adam Martin wrote:
Are you worried about the text overlapping the footer? If so, try this:
div#footer {
background-color:#2D2D2D;
border-top:1px solid #00;
clear:both;
height:100px;
width:100%;
}
Cheers
Adam
-
james wrote:
Hi All,
This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it to
stay in the same position through each page.
I think it is something to do with the way i have coded the text on
my page;
Here is the link to the site
http://www.jungle-systems.com/~mip/companyprofile.html
Could anyone have a look for me please.
Cheers James
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Re: [WSG] Footer problem!
It is at the bottom of the content - which is why it is moving around :)
james wrote:
I just added that CSS, so i could see where the is was positioned,
however i can see that it moves around on each page, i am not sure why
it does this, it is supposed to be at the bottom of the page in the
center fixed.
Cheers
Adam Martin wrote:
Are you worried about the text overlapping the footer? If so, try this:
div#footer {
background-color:#2D2D2D;
border-top:1px solid #00;
clear:both;
height:100px;
width:100%;
}
Cheers
Adam
-
james wrote:
Hi All,
This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it
to stay in the same position through each page.
I think it is something to do with the way i have coded the text on
my page;
Here is the link to the site
http://www.jungle-systems.com/~mip/companyprofile.html
Could anyone have a look for me please.
Cheers James
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Re: [WSG] Footer problem!
http://blog.twenty08.com/2007/04/15/how-to-align-a-footer-to-the-bottom-of-the-page-in-xhtml-strict-across-all-three-browsers/
james wrote:
I just added that CSS, so i could see where the is was positioned,
however i can see that it moves around on each page, i am not sure why
it does this, it is supposed to be at the bottom of the page in the
center fixed.
Cheers
Adam Martin wrote:
Are you worried about the text overlapping the footer? If so, try this:
div#footer {
background-color:#2D2D2D;
border-top:1px solid #00;
clear:both;
height:100px;
width:100%;
}
Cheers
Adam
-
james wrote:
Hi All,
This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it
to stay in the same position through each page.
I think it is something to do with the way i have coded the text on
my page;
Here is the link to the site
http://www.jungle-systems.com/~mip/companyprofile.html
Could anyone have a look for me please.
Cheers James
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Re: [WSG] Footer problem!
thanks will give it a try :)
Adam Martin wrote:
http://blog.twenty08.com/2007/04/15/how-to-align-a-footer-to-the-bottom-of-the-page-in-xhtml-strict-across-all-three-browsers/
james wrote:
I just added that CSS, so i could see where the is was positioned,
however i can see that it moves around on each page, i am not sure
why it does this, it is supposed to be at the bottom of the page in
the center fixed.
Cheers
Adam Martin wrote:
Are you worried about the text overlapping the footer? If so, try this:
div#footer {
background-color:#2D2D2D;
border-top:1px solid #00;
clear:both;
height:100px;
width:100%;
}
Cheers
Adam
-
james wrote:
Hi All,
This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it
to stay in the same position through each page.
I think it is something to do with the way i have coded the text on
my page;
Here is the link to the site
http://www.jungle-systems.com/~mip/companyprofile.html
Could anyone have a look for me please.
Cheers James
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Re: [WSG] Footer problem!
On 15 May 2008, at 12:05, james wrote: This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it to stay in the same position through each page. James, sorry if I'm missing something very obvious here but I think you need to be more specific about what you want the footer to be doing. Just sitting nicely underneath your main content? Or anchored to the bottom of the browser window at all times? Or something else? -- Rick Lecoat *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Footer problem!
All fixed, cheers all i needed was clear:both; Thanks I just want the footer to be nicely placed in the center of the page below all the main content, however it seems to move about based on the page it is on, Rick Lecoat wrote: On 15 May 2008, at 12:05, james wrote: This is probably a real easy thing to do, how ever i cannot get it to stay in the same position through each page. James, sorry if I'm missing something very obvious here but I think you need to be more specific about what you want the footer to be doing. Just sitting nicely underneath your main content? Or anchored to the bottom of the browser window at all times? Or something else? -- Rick Lecoat *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
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Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
Accessible or to keep them not readble from the search engines and SPAM?? Michael Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: What is the most accessible method to have email links on web pages? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Michael Persson front-end developer seo *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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On 15 May 2008, at 15:35, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: What is the most accessible method to have email links on web pages? Probably: (1) Clearly flag it as an email address (2) Link it (3) Provide the address in easily copy/paste-able format for webmail users So: pEmail Jon at a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a./ p or possibly pa href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Email Jon at [EMAIL PROTECTED]/a./ p -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
Agree here, I really have to dislike someone to put their email on a webpage in a readable format, there are scripts to hide it. Bruce bkdesign - Original Message - From: Michael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email Accessible or to keep them not readble from the search engines and SPAM?? Michael Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: What is the most accessible method to have email links on web pages? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Michael Persson front-end developer seo *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
How about the ultimate combo of a voice file with the email spelled out + an image of the email + alt tag on this image ? A lot oh hustle but it can't be botted ( AFAIK ) and is ultra accessible. Regards, -- Krystian - Sunlust Freelance on the side: Sunlust Designs - http://sunlust.net Full time Website Designer at SME System Solutions Ltd *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
I would think that having the email available in the sense of usability is optimal. Although spam is a big red flag for many. What are some scripts to hide a readable/printable email address? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:03 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email Agree here, I really have to dislike someone to put their email on a webpage in a readable format, there are scripts to hide it. Bruce bkdesign - Original Message - From: Michael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email Accessible or to keep them not readble from the search engines and SPAM?? Michael Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: What is the most accessible method to have email links on web pages? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Michael Persson front-end developer seo *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
On 15 May 2008, at 16:13, Krystian - Sunlust wrote: How about the ultimate combo of a voice file with the email spelled out + an image of the email + alt tag on this image ? A lot oh hustle Transcribing an email address is more effect then a lot of people are willing to make. It's a good way to lose useful feedback. but it can't be botted ( AFAIK ) and is ultra accessible. OCR and voice recognition software exists, if the both author can be bothered to use it. It isn't accessible to users who can't handle the image or sound (e.g. braille users without speakers). -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Conact Form!
Hi All; On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not being valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, am i missing something silly here? form label for=userName/label input type=text id=user value= /br / label for=companyCompany:/label input type=text id=company value= /br / label for=emailaddressEmail Address:/label input type=text id=emailaddress value= /br / label for=commentsComments:/label textarea name=comments /textarea br / input type=submit id=submitbutton value=Submit / /form Thanks James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
Couldn't an alt tag be read by a braille browser thingie? Regards, -- Krystian - Sunlust Freelance on the side: Sunlust Designs - http://sunlust.net Full time Website Designer at SME System Solutions Ltd *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Conact Form!
Theres no id on the textarea :) Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of james Sent: 15 May 2008 16:32 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Conact Form! Hi All; On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not being valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, am i missing something silly here? form label for=userName/label input type=text id=user value= /br / label for=companyCompany:/label input type=text id=company value= /br / label for=emailaddressEmail Address:/label input type=text id=emailaddress value= /br / label for=commentsComments:/label textarea name=comments /textarea br / input type=submit id=submitbutton value=Submit / /form Thanks James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Conact Form!
No action attribute on the form? 2008/5/15 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All; On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not being valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, am i missing something silly here? form label for=userName/label input type=text id=user value= /br / label for=companyCompany:/label input type=text id=company value= /br / label for=emailaddressEmail Address:/label input type=text id=emailaddress value= /br / label for=commentsComments:/label textarea name=comments /textarea br / input type=submit id=submitbutton value=Submit / /form Thanks James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
On 15 May 2008, at 16:32, Krystian - Sunlust wrote: Couldn't an alt tag be read by a braille browser thingie? A what? Do you mean attribute? There isn't much point in concealing the text of the email address in an image if you are going to include it as clear text in an alt attribute! -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
Yes. Alt attribute. Damn, I thought that I came up with the best solutions ever for emails, you just shot me down ;-( Thanks for letting me know mate. Regards, -- Krystian - Sunlust Freelance on the side: Sunlust Designs - http://sunlust.net Full time Website Designer at SME System Solutions Ltd *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Conact Form!
You need a block level element inside the form element. A fieldset would work nicely. 2008/5/15 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All; On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not being valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, am i missing something silly here? form label for=userName/label input type=text id=user value= /br / label for=companyCompany:/label input type=text id=company value= /br / label for=emailaddressEmail Address:/label input type=text id=emailaddress value= /br / label for=commentsComments:/label textarea name=comments /textarea br / input type=submit id=submitbutton value=Submit / /form Thanks James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Conact Form!
Fixed it now thanks David Owens wrote: You need a block level element inside the form element. A fieldset would work nicely. 2008/5/15 james [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All; On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not being valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, am i missing something silly here? form label for=userName/label input type=text id=user value= /br / label for=companyCompany:/label input type=text id=company value= /br / label for=emailaddressEmail Address:/label input type=text id=emailaddress value= /br / label for=commentsComments:/label textarea name=comments /textarea br / input type=submit id=submitbutton value=Submit / /form Thanks James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1430 - Release Date: 13/05/2008 07:31 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
I like the idea of a title tag being used i.e.- a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title=e-mail address - [EMAIL PROTECTED]first name last name/a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Krystian - Sunlust Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:33 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email Couldn't an alt tag be read by a braille browser thingie? Regards, -- Krystian - Sunlust Freelance on the side: Sunlust Designs - http://sunlust.net Full time Website Designer at SME System Solutions Ltd *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
I meant title attribute ;) -Original Message- From: Erickson, Kevin (DOE) Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 12:54 PM To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Subject: RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email I like the idea of a title tag being used i.e.- a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title=e-mail address - [EMAIL PROTECTED]first name last name/a *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV
Hi all, I've managed to put a page together. If you look at the green area in Firefox and IE you will notice a small gap at the right of the green area in IE. If you try to resize the browser by dragging it, you will notice the gap keeps closing then appearing. It's to do with the odd and even number of pixels on the window size when you have a centred background. Anyway, here is the test URL, anyone got an idea of how to solve this without an extra DIV?! http://paulcollinslondon.com/test/ Cheers Paul 2008/5/15 Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for your reply Adam. I can't really put what's I have now due to copyright restrictions, or I would have. I was hoping someone had encountered this before and would know the answer. I'll have to try and set up a dummy page later today when I have more time. Thanks Paul 2008/5/15 Adam Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: can we see an example? Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of the Body one, but is only a fixed height Basically, they need to match up where they meet, which is working fine in Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. The only place it's having an issue is IE6 7. I know what the problem is; the background is centred and the width of your browser can be an odd or even number, so it can't sit dead centre all the time. If I drag the browser in to resize it, the backgrounds keep matching up then falling out of place. I have solved this before without adding an extra div for the body background, but I just can't remember how I did it. Does anyone have an idea? Thanks Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
How about JavaScript? I found this code at
http://rickconner.net/spamweb/avoiding.html:
div align=center
p
script type=text/javascript
!--
// protected email script by Joe Maller
// JavaScripts available at http://www.joemaller.com
// this script is free to use and distribute
// but please credit me and/or link to my site
// data modified for demonstration purposes by Richard C. Conner
emailE=('frank16@' + 'nobody.zzz')
document.write('A href=mailto:' + emailE + '' + emailE + '/a')
//--
/script
/p
noscript
emEmail address protected by
JavaScript.br
Please enable JavaScript
to contact me./em
/noscript
/div
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Dorward
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:26 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
On 15 May 2008, at 16:13, Krystian - Sunlust wrote:
How about the ultimate combo of a voice file with the email spelled
out + an image of the email + alt tag on this image ?
A lot oh hustle
Transcribing an email address is more effect then a lot of people are
willing to make. It's a good way to lose useful feedback.
but it can't be botted ( AFAIK ) and is ultra accessible.
OCR and voice recognition software exists, if the both author can be
bothered to use it.
It isn't accessible to users who can't handle the image or sound (e.g.
braille users without speakers).
--
David Dorward
http://dorward.me.uk/
http://blog.dorward.me.uk/
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[WSG] [OT] users - IT literate?
I have doing a site for someone for a few years now. He recently requested a few minor changes whilst he was at my office, so I did them whilst he was present, and he approved. Today he wrote to me from his home: The changes you made to my website are not showing at this end. Do I need to access a different website address or access it anew perhaps ? Also, I've just realised why my photos are missing: there's an unwanted tool bar blocking access to them. The page he refers to has one composite image at the top. No flash, dead simple html. Deary me - I've no idea what he means! N.B. This is, actually, on-topic because it indicates just how ignorant some users are - many in my experience - and it flies in the face of those members of this list who believe that most users know about the 'back button' (to give one example). Just off in search of my revolver . . . Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] [OT] users - IT literate?
It sounds like your user has a virus. However when it comes to literacy most people using websites are computer competent or they wouldn't be surfing the web in the first place. Over time more and more people will be computer savvy and the current generation grew up with the web as a normal part of their culture and their education. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Designer wrote: I have doing a site for someone for a few years now. He recently requested a few minor changes whilst he was at my office, so I did them whilst he was present, and he approved. Today he wrote to me from his home: The changes you made to my website are not showing at this end. Do I need to access a different website address or access it anew perhaps ? Also, I've just realised why my photos are missing: there's an unwanted tool bar blocking access to them. The page he refers to has one composite image at the top. No flash, dead simple html. Deary me - I've no idea what he means! N.B. This is, actually, on-topic because it indicates just how ignorant some users are - many in my experience - and it flies in the face of those members of this list who believe that most users know about the 'back button' (to give one example). Just off in search of my revolver . . . Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: I like the idea of a title tag being used i.e.- a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title=e-mail address - [EMAIL PROTECTED]first name last name/a so what if i want to copy/paste the email from the page to another document or something? P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Co-lead, Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: Although spam is a big red flag for many. Which should ideally be solved at the email server + email client end, in my view. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Co-lead, Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Conact Form!
James, Also, might want to consider getting rid of those ugly br/'s... You could try: label for=namespanName/spaninput type=text id=name//label Display the label and the span as a block and float the span and the input to the left, put a width on the span and you should be sorted. Greetings, Matijs On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:44 PM, james [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fixed it now thanks David Owens wrote: You need a block level element inside the form element. A fieldset would work nicely. 2008/5/15 james [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All; On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not being valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, am i missing something silly here? form label for=userName/label input type=text id=user value= /br / label for=companyCompany:/label input type=text id=company value= /br / label for=emailaddressEmail Address:/label input type=text id=emailaddress value= /br / label for=commentsComments:/label textarea name=comments /textarea br / input type=submit id=submitbutton value=Submit / /form Thanks James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1430 - Release Date: 13/05/2008 07:31 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV
Does overflow: hidden on the containing div and making the green bar wider help? On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've managed to put a page together. If you look at the green area in Firefox and IE you will notice a small gap at the right of the green area in IE. If you try to resize the browser by dragging it, you will notice the gap keeps closing then appearing. It's to do with the odd and even number of pixels on the window size when you have a centred background. Anyway, here is the test URL, anyone got an idea of how to solve this without an extra DIV?! http://paulcollinslondon.com/test/ Cheers Paul 2008/5/15 Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for your reply Adam. I can't really put what's I have now due to copyright restrictions, or I would have. I was hoping someone had encountered this before and would know the answer. I'll have to try and set up a dummy page later today when I have more time. Thanks Paul 2008/5/15 Adam Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: can we see an example? Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of the Body one, but is only a fixed height Basically, they need to match up where they meet, which is working fine in Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. The only place it's having an issue is IE6 7. I know what the problem is; the background is centred and the width of your browser can be an odd or even number, so it can't sit dead centre all the time. If I drag the browser in to resize it, the backgrounds keep matching up then falling out of place. I have solved this before without adding an extra div for the body background, but I just can't remember how I did it. Does anyone have an idea? Thanks Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] 2008 NZ Government Web Standards Review
Hi all The annual review of the New Zealand Government Web Standards is now underway. We are very keen to get your comments and advice, which we'll feed directly into the review process. Let us know what's worked for you and what's caused problems. Are there standards you've struggled with, either in their wording or their practical implementation? Which would you ditch and why? Which would you keep? Are some overly prescriptive, or too vague? If you're not in NZ, we're still very keen to get your thoughts and feedback. The process is that we (the Web Standards Working Group) collate feedback on the standards via the wiki and give it high priority while considering each standard. So it's crucial we get a good amount of feedback from users. You do this by using the link below to go to the standard(s) on which you want to leave feedback, and click the comment tab. http://webstandards.govt.nz/index.php/All_Standards BLOCKED::http://webstandards.govt.nz/index.php/All_Standards You'll need to be registered, so if you haven't already, please send a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] BLOCKED::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Anthony -- Anthony Hawkins Business Analyst State Services Commission DDI: +64 4 495 6718 Fax: +64 4 495 6669 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssc.govt.nz http://www.ssc.govt.nz/ | www.e.govt.nz http://www.e.govt.nz/ | newzealand.govt.nz http://newzealand.govt.nz/ New Zealand's State Services Commission: Leading the state sector to world class performance ... Caution: If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message along with any attachments. Please treat the contents of this message as private and confidential. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matijs Sent: Friday, 16 May 2008 9:22 a.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV Does overflow: hidden on the containing div and making the green bar wider help? On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've managed to put a page together. If you look at the green area in Firefox and IE you will notice a small gap at the right of the green area in IE. If you try to resize the browser by dragging it, you will notice the gap keeps closing then appearing. It's to do with the odd and even number of pixels on the window size when you have a centred background. Anyway, here is the test URL, anyone got an idea of how to solve this without an extra DIV?! http://paulcollinslondon.com/test/ Cheers Paul 2008/5/15 Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for your reply Adam. I can't really put what's I have now due to copyright restrictions, or I would have. I was hoping someone had encountered this before and would know the answer. I'll have to try and set up a dummy page later today when I have more time. Thanks Paul 2008/5/15 Adam Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: can we see an example? Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of the Body one, but is only a fixed height Basically, they need to match up where they meet, which is working fine in Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. The only place it's having an issue is IE6 7. I know what the problem is; the background is centred and the width of your browser can be an odd or even number, so it can't sit dead centre all the time. If I drag the browser in to resize it, the backgrounds keep matching up then falling out of place. I have solved this before without adding an extra div for the body background, but I just can't remember how I did it. Does anyone have an idea? Thanks Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] RE: 2008 NZ Government Web Standards Review
Hi Anthony, I sent a request for a registration on the webstandards wiki 2 days ago - how long does it normally take SSC to grant access? Am I supposed to do something else? Regards, Paul Bennett Web Coder Web Centre Wellington City Council http://www.wellington.govt.nz http://www.wellington.govt.nz/ DDI: 04 801 3284 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:41 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] 2008 NZ Government Web Standards Review Hi all The annual review of the New Zealand Government Web Standards is now underway. We are very keen to get your comments and advice, which we'll feed directly into the review process. Let us know what's worked for you and what's caused problems. Are there standards you've struggled with, either in their wording or their practical implementation? Which would you ditch and why? Which would you keep? Are some overly prescriptive, or too vague? If you're not in NZ, we're still very keen to get your thoughts and feedback. The process is that we (the Web Standards Working Group) collate feedback on the standards via the wiki and give it high priority while considering each standard. So it's crucial we get a good amount of feedback from users. You do this by using the link below to go to the standard(s) on which you want to leave feedback, and click the comment tab. http://webstandards.govt.nz/index.php/All_Standards BLOCKED::http://webstandards.govt.nz/index.php/All_Standards You'll need to be registered, so if you haven't already, please send a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] BLOCKED::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Anthony -- Anthony Hawkins Business Analyst State Services Commission DDI: +64 4 495 6718 Fax: +64 4 495 6669 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssc.govt.nz http://www.ssc.govt.nz/ | www.e.govt.nz http://www.e.govt.nz/ | newzealand.govt.nz http://newzealand.govt.nz/ New Zealand's State Services Commission: Leading the state sector to world class performance ... Caution: If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and then delete this message along with any attachments. Please treat the contents of this message as private and confidential. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matijs Sent: Friday, 16 May 2008 9:22 a.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV Does overflow: hidden on the containing div and making the green bar wider help? On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've managed to put a page together. If you look at the green area in Firefox and IE you will notice a small gap at the right of the green area in IE. If you try to resize the browser by dragging it, you will notice the gap keeps closing then appearing. It's to do with the odd and even number of pixels on the window size when you have a centred background. Anyway, here is the test URL, anyone got an idea of how to solve this without an extra DIV?! http://paulcollinslondon.com/test/ Cheers Paul 2008/5/15 Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for your reply Adam. I can't really put what's I have now due to copyright restrictions, or I would have. I was hoping someone had encountered this before and would know the answer. I'll have to try and set up a dummy page later today when I have more time. Thanks Paul 2008/5/15 Adam Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: can we see an example? Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of the Body one, but is only a fixed height Basically, they need to match up where they meet, which is working fine in Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. The only place it's having an issue is IE6 7. I know what the
Re: [WSG] IE6 background image positioning problem
Thanks very much Gunlaug - that did work!
And Matljs - re the banner table, I work at a university where you are
supposed to use their template for university web pages. And the template is
all in tables!! Over time I have taken most of the template out of tables,
but to date have left the banner. This time I got the lefthand nav
successfully out! I'll have a look at using your solution next time but I
imagine it will take a while to get the banner to display the way it's
supposed to without being in a table.
And I've spent more time that I should have on this site already! At least
I've fixed up the lefthand nav so it holds together, and displays correctly
in IE6 (which is as low as we have to go here).
cheers
susie
On 15/5/08 6:13 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Susie Gardner-Brown wrote:
http://crunchie.tedi.uq.edu.au/trials/UCTLC/index6.html
That big image on the right is a bg image in a container that has
absolute positioning. It works fine in Firefox on my Mac, but IE6 it
drops down.
Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong?
You're trying to fixed-position a background, which I don't think you
really want since that means the background is positioned relative to
the browser-window - not the page.
Anyway, IE6 can't handle fixed backgrounds on regular elements inside
body, so it is absolute positioning that background.
Change to...
#entryContainer {
background: #FFF url(entry-bg.jpg) no-repeat 193px 0;
}
...and IE6 will line up with the other browsers - or rather the other
way around but with all parts in the correct places.
regards
Georg
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Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV
A good idea Matijs, but doesn't seem to work. Thanks for taking a look anyway. 2008/5/15 Matijs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does overflow: hidden on the containing div and making the green bar wider help? On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've managed to put a page together. If you look at the green area in Firefox and IE you will notice a small gap at the right of the green area in IE. If you try to resize the browser by dragging it, you will notice the gap keeps closing then appearing. It's to do with the odd and even number of pixels on the window size when you have a centred background. Anyway, here is the test URL, anyone got an idea of how to solve this without an extra DIV?! http://paulcollinslondon.com/test/ Cheers Paul 2008/5/15 Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for your reply Adam. I can't really put what's I have now due to copyright restrictions, or I would have. I was hoping someone had encountered this before and would know the answer. I'll have to try and set up a dummy page later today when I have more time. Thanks Paul 2008/5/15 Adam Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: can we see an example? Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of the Body one, but is only a fixed height Basically, they need to match up where they meet, which is working fine in Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. The only place it's having an issue is IE6 7. I know what the problem is; the background is centred and the width of your browser can be an odd or even number, so it can't sit dead centre all the time. If I drag the browser in to resize it, the backgrounds keep matching up then falling out of place. I have solved this before without adding an extra div for the body background, but I just can't remember how I did it. Does anyone have an idea? Thanks Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Background on body not aligning with tiled background on wrapper DIV
Paul, Try making your width on ul#footer 934px (960-15-11); reason being you need to subtract the left and right padding amount from the overall width since padding affects the width of the box. I noticed in firebug that the UL width was way wider than the wrapper whose width was 960px. Best Regards, Nate Hanna On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good idea Matijs, but doesn't seem to work. Thanks for taking a look anyway. 2008/5/15 Matijs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does overflow: hidden on the containing div and making the green bar wider help? On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've managed to put a page together. If you look at the green area in Firefox and IE you will notice a small gap at the right of the green area in IE. If you try to resize the browser by dragging it, you will notice the gap keeps closing then appearing. It's to do with the odd and even number of pixels on the window size when you have a centred background. Anyway, here is the test URL, anyone got an idea of how to solve this without an extra DIV?! http://paulcollinslondon.com/test/ Cheers Paul 2008/5/15 Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for your reply Adam. I can't really put what's I have now due to copyright restrictions, or I would have. I was hoping someone had encountered this before and would know the answer. I'll have to try and set up a dummy page later today when I have more time. Thanks Paul 2008/5/15 Adam Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: can we see an example? Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I've seen this problem before, but can't remember how I solved it. Basically, I have put a centred background that repeats vertically on the body of my page using CSS. The main wrapper div is also centred and has a background sits on top of the Body one, but is only a fixed height Basically, they need to match up where they meet, which is working fine in Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc. The only place it's having an issue is IE6 7. I know what the problem is; the background is centred and the width of your browser can be an odd or even number, so it can't sit dead centre all the time. If I drag the browser in to resize it, the backgrounds keep matching up then falling out of place. I have solved this before without adding an extra div for the body background, but I just can't remember how I did it. Does anyone have an idea? Thanks Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] An efficient CSS architecture
For our custom projects at my work we have recently adopted the Tripolihttp://devkick.com/lab/tripoli/and combine.php http://rakaz.nl/projects/combine/combine.phps for compression (+gzip done by the server). On top of Tripoli; I have created our on in-house CSS framework/template that gets me 85-90% of the CSS I need for each site based on HTML standards we code with. Best Regards, Nate Hanna On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, assuming you are 100% sure about your compression scheme, is to do all of your debugging against a test site (with no compression). This is what I do with my main site; the take-live process copies files from my test site, via a staging site, on to the live server. The process also handles copyright dates, build numbers, comment removal and some light compression/optimisation. Because I wrote this script from the ground up I was able to keep the compression reasonable too: a few line breaks aren't the end of the world in terms of size, but allow me to do enough debugging on the live system to tell roughly where things are going wrong on the odd occasion where something gets by. (9 times out of 10that is because I have missed a dependant file!) Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jens-Uwe Korff Sent: Mon 28/04/2008 08:27 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] An efficient CSS architecture snip I am currently looking into CSS compression. This has, however, the disadvantage of removing effective live debugging with Firebug because all CSS rules will be on one single line. How do you address this problem? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: Re[2]: [WSG] accessible client side form validation
Sorry for the delayed response; been extra busy of late. I've found the JQuery validation plug-in to be wonderful and easy to use: http://docs.jquery.com/Plugins/Validation. Be sure to read through the documentation first and this article is a good source for it as well: http://bassistance.de/2007/07/04/about-client-side-form-validation-and-frameworks/ . Regards, Nate Hanna On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I may be permitted to be pedantic for a moment, I believe that JavaScript may be used to provide Assistance with Validation (So you are both correct...) Security can only ever be _reliably_ provided on the server side, but validation of user input is perfectly acceptable as client side code, with or without server side follow up, as long as the server can tolerate the effects of that validation not being carried out. As with all religious wars, the key to peace is understanding of the actual messages, not just blind repetition of slogans. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:52 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: [WSG] accessible client side form validation Importance: High Hmm, why the Republic of JS kept saying it's form validation? tee On Apr 23, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Alexey Novikov wrote: Hello, friends. There is no client side form *validation*. There is client side form *assistance*. Validation should be performed on server. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email
On Thu, 15 May 2008 10:35:16 -0400, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: What is the most accessible method to have email links on web pages? After putting a plain email address on my web site I got a lot of spam. So I changed my contact address and put it on the page as mail(at)example(dot)com. Then I used a small script to convert that to a conventional mailto:; link. No spam from that address in over a year, so it seems to fool 'bots for now. I'd be interested to hear from the accessibility folks, though. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
