[WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid? http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/ Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site? Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information, misunderstanding and false assumptions. Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to spout nonsense. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
Rimantas, How can you be so sure yourself about what you just posted regarding HTML5 vs. XHTML? Thanks, Jason http://flexewebs.com/semantix On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Rimantas Liubertas riman...@gmail.comwrote: Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid? http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/ Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site? Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information, misunderstanding and false assumptions. Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to spout nonsense. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
Hi Rimantas Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take on HTML5. This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that any discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor (regardless of how strongly one feels that the other party is incorrect) and that anyone involved in the discussion would present their arguments rationally and calmly without sinking to personal attacks on other web standards group members (yes, the person who wrote the article is a member of this group). Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope. Russ On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid? http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/ Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site? Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information, misunderstanding and false assumptions. Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to spout nonsense. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
Russ, Even though I have a lot of experience with GUI development and standards, and have my own opinions on things, I am reading your links everytime you send them out. Any article matters. Please, keep sending those. Thanks! Anya V. Gerasimchuk Web Designer, IT - Web Shared Services UNIFI Information Technology agerasimc...@unioncentral.com (513) 595 -2391 Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.au Sent by: li...@webstandardsgroup.org 12/22/2009 09:01 AM Please respond to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc Subject Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09) Hi Rimantas Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take on HTML5. This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that any discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor (regardless of how strongly one feels that the other party is incorrect) and that anyone involved in the discussion would present their arguments rationally and calmly without sinking to personal attacks on other web standards group members (yes, the person who wrote the article is a member of this group). Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope. Russ On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid? http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/ Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site? Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information, misunderstanding and false assumptions. Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to spout nonsense. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
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Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
I agree... keep sending the links! It is up to us as to what we chose to read or not. Dory On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:06 AM, agerasimc...@unioncentral.com wrote: Russ, Even though I have a lot of experience with GUI development and standards, and have my own opinions on things, I am reading your links everytime you send them out. Any article matters. Please, keep sending those. Thanks! Anya V. Gerasimchuk Web Designer, IT - Web Shared Services UNIFI Information Technology agerasimc...@unioncentral.com (513) 595 -2391 *Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.au* Sent by: li...@webstandardsgroup.org 12/22/2009 09:01 AM Please respond to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc Subject Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09) Hi Rimantas Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take on HTML5. This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that any discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor (regardless of how strongly one feels that the other party is incorrect) and that anyone involved in the discussion would present their arguments rationally and calmly without sinking to personal attacks on other web standards group members (yes, the person who wrote the article is a member of this group). Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope. Russ On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid? http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/ Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site? Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information, misunderstanding and false assumptions. Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to spout nonsense. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Dory Ptak Ptak Web Development www.ptakwebdevelopment.com (925) 292-1054 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] :: makeready ::
I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ Best, ~d *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
Russ, please keep us updated with the light reading links. Thanks for your effort! On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Dory nordicz...@gmail.com wrote: I agree... keep sending the links! It is up to us as to what we chose to read or not. Dory On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:06 AM, agerasimc...@unioncentral.com wrote: Russ, Even though I have a lot of experience with GUI development and standards, and have my own opinions on things, I am reading your links everytime you send them out. Any article matters. Please, keep sending those. Thanks! Anya V. Gerasimchuk Web Designer, IT - Web Shared Services UNIFI Information Technology agerasimc...@unioncentral.com (513) 595 -2391 *Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.au* Sent by: li...@webstandardsgroup.org 12/22/2009 09:01 AM Please respond to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc Subject Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09) Hi Rimantas Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take on HTML5. This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that any discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor (regardless of how strongly one feels that the other party is incorrect) and that anyone involved in the discussion would present their arguments rationally and calmly without sinking to personal attacks on other web standards group members (yes, the person who wrote the article is a member of this group). Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope. Russ On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid? http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/ Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site? Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information, misunderstanding and false assumptions. Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to spout nonsense. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Dory Ptak Ptak Web Development www.ptakwebdevelopment.com (925) 292-1054 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::
I can see you are an artist. It looks like a website that's been designed by an artist. Looking at the site in Firefox my first reaction is to want to drag it to the left. Somehow being right aligned it feels uncomfortable - I wonder why the white space on the left. I was also a little puzzled why the title of the home page is 'about'. When I click the home button I go back to about with home disabled and vice versa. I can understand why you have done it but it seems a little quirky. I also seem to be doing a lot of scrolling (the page is long rather than wide) and it took me a little while to understand what was happening with the sets. I hope this is helpful. 2009/12/22 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ Best, ~d *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Chris Price 0777 629 0227 follow me at http://twitter.com/hypergossip_uk and http://facebook.com/chris.t.price *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::
Chris Price wrote: Looking at the site in Firefox my first reaction is to want to drag it to the left. Somehow being right aligned it feels uncomfortable - I wonder why the white space on the left. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ -- Chris Price So drag it to a 640 window? Best, ~d *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::
- Original Message - From: David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ It's very nice - it's clean, the importance of graphic design/typography shows in the design, and it exhumes a sense of proficiency. I notice that it validates as HTML 5 too! However - there is always a 'BUT' - for my taste it's lopsided! I would prefer it if the 'content' (by which I mean the area where there is something to see) was more central in the viewport - all sections except the 'portfolio' are too far to the right. The portfolio has more text on the left and this balances it up a bit. This lopsided look is particularly noticeable when one increases the font size 4+ times. Just my 2p's worth. . . O.K., now tell me you spent hours making the spacing work that way because it's what you wanted! Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:13 PM, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote: I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ I would prefer if set 1 were expanded by default, and if set 1 through set 3 were presented as tabs on the same line, instead of vertically, or if they were not present and the 3 sets were displayed as a horizontal sliding ribbon. In essence, more of a pagination view instead of disparate vertical blocks. -- -- Christian Montoya mappdev.com :: christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::
I like the elegancy of the site, but think that Navigation is slightly confusing. I also wasnt' sure where I am - Home or About? You are having two links, but it's actually the same page. Also, you put Gustav Klimt as your first Portfolio item, but I (that was my first impression) thought that you are claiming that YOU ARE Gustav Klimt (which is a nonsence). That might mean that you did not emphasize enough WHAT YOUR SITE ACTUALLY DOES. You are doing website disign/development - make it stand-out more! It is not clear from your home -page. So, work on navigation - that is my thought. Anya V. Gerasimchuk Web Designer, IT - Web Shared Services UNIFI Information Technology agerasimc...@unioncentral.com (513) 595 -2391 Chris Price chris.pr...@choctaw.co.uk Sent by: li...@webstandardsgroup.org 12/22/2009 01:02 PM Please respond to wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc Subject Re: [WSG] :: makeready :: I can see you are an artist. It looks like a website that's been designed by an artist. Looking at the site in Firefox my first reaction is to want to drag it to the left. Somehow being right aligned it feels uncomfortable - I wonder why the white space on the left. I was also a little puzzled why the title of the home page is 'about'. When I click the home button I go back to about with home disabled and vice versa. I can understand why you have done it but it seems a little quirky. I also seem to be doing a lot of scrolling (the page is long rather than wide) and it took me a little while to understand what was happening with the sets. I hope this is helpful. 2009/12/22 David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site. http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ Best, ~d *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Chris Price 0777 629 0227 follow me at http://twitter.com/hypergossip_uk and http://facebook.com/chris.t.price *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::
designer wrote: http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ However - there is always a 'BUT' - for my taste it's lopsided! O.K., now tell me you spent hours making the spacing work that way because it's what you wanted! Bob Hours? Hours nothing: it took a lifetime that spacing, Bob :-) . Best, ~d *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] HTML5 book(s)
O.K., so David Laakso's recent mail made me realise that I need (want) to catch up. I looked online for any html 5 books, and there are a LOT! So, could I please have your recommendations on (recent) books which tell the reader 'how to write html 5' Many thanks, Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 book(s)
designer wrote: O.K., so David Laakso's recent mail made me realise that I need (want) to catch up. I looked online for any html 5 books, and there are a LOT! So, could I please have your recommendations on (recent) books which tell the reader 'how to write html 5' Many thanks, Bob Can't help with books, Bob. But there are a zillion online html5 resources including the w3c working draft. http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/ ~d *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 book(s)
If you need (want) to catch up, I would start with this one. :) Beginning HTML5 and CSS3: Next Generation Web Standards, by Christopher Murphy http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430228741 Good luck! /Palle Zingmark http://www.palleman.nu http://twitter.com/palleman On Dec 22, 2009, at 20:10 , designer wrote: O.K., so David Laakso's recent mail made me realise that I need (want) to catch up. I looked online for any html 5 books, and there are a LOT! So, could I please have your recommendations on (recent) books which tell the reader 'how to write html 5' Many thanks, Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** Palle Zingmark www.palleman.nu pa...@palleman.nu *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
+1 for my weekly dose of Some links for light reading! Jeremy Cabral mobile: 0410 319 212 // skype: jeremycabral On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Jean-Jacques Halans hal...@gmail.comwrote: Keep em coming Russ! They are links for light reading after all, not gospel. It obviously worked in provoking discussion. (And I reserve the right to keep my opinion about the original commenter to myself ;-) JJ Halans Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt 2009/12/23 Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.au Hi Rimantas Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take on HTML5. This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that any discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor (regardless of how strongly one feels that the other party is incorrect) and that anyone involved in the discussion would present their arguments rationally and calmly without sinking to personal attacks on other web standards group members (yes, the person who wrote the article is a member of this group). Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope. Russ On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid? http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/ Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site? Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information, misunderstanding and false assumptions. Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to spout nonsense. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
I reckon HTML5 Nazis should chill our regarding the XHTML debates as HTML5 and XHTML are interchangeable terms. Comments like this other guy made just add unnecessary negativity to the whole thing. Russ is a legend in his own right and no one should even attempt to cyber bully him. ;-) On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Jeremy Cabral jeremy.cab...@gmail.comwrote: +1 for my weekly dose of Some links for light reading! Jeremy Cabral mobile: 0410 319 212 // skype: jeremycabral On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Jean-Jacques Halans hal...@gmail.comwrote: Keep em coming Russ! They are links for light reading after all, not gospel. It obviously worked in provoking discussion. (And I reserve the right to keep my opinion about the original commenter to myself ;-) JJ Halans Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt 2009/12/23 Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.au Hi Rimantas Why did I post this link? Because the article has an interesting take on HTML5. This does mean that I agree or disagree with the article. I hoped that the article would lead to discussion and debate. I had also hoped that any discussion or debate would be conducted in a respectful manor (regardless of how strongly one feels that the other party is incorrect) and that anyone involved in the discussion would present their arguments rationally and calmly without sinking to personal attacks on other web standards group members (yes, the person who wrote the article is a member of this group). Ahhh... I give up... there is no hope. Russ On 22/12/2009, at 10:46 PM, Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid? http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/ Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site? Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of information, misunderstanding and false assumptions. Sure, the guy has financial interest of keeping xhtml afloat, so he may see the HTML5 as a threat, but that's not a good enough reason to spout nonsense. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
It obviously worked in provoking discussion. Where do you see discussion there? Does keep them coming count as one? I am all for them coming but I'd like some QA applied to them too. (And I reserve the right to keep my opinion about the original commenter to myself ;-) Don't be shy. I will stick to my right (I hope I have one) to call BS when I see it. Just as I did five years ago when Vlad was pushing similar FUD about HTML on this same list. Now seems like he has a new target. Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt I was discussing the quality of the posts on rebuildingtheweb.com. I still think that this groups deserves better than writings of the guy who calls end tags elements and thinks that missing end tags for html and body elements in HTML4 is invalid markup. Seems Russ and you opted to discuss me instead. Do you think that quote still applies? Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
I reckon HTML5 Nazis I thought I was being rude there… should chill our regarding the XHTML debates as HTML5 and XHTML are interchangeable terms. How so? HTML5 has XML serialization, but that does not make HTML5 and XHTML interchangeable in any way. Comments like this other guy made just add unnecessary negativity to the whole thing. So no matter how wrong someone is nobody can say that without being unnecessary negative? Russ is a legend in his own right and no one should even attempt to cyber bully him. ;-) Asking for a basic QA when choosing links for light reading counts as cyber bullying? This place gets stranger and stranger… Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
Guys, Shouldn't this be a separate thread? Thx Pete On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Rimantas Liubertas riman...@gmail.comwrote: It obviously worked in provoking discussion. Where do you see discussion there? Does keep them coming count as one? I am all for them coming but I'd like some QA applied to them too. (And I reserve the right to keep my opinion about the original commenter to myself ;-) Don't be shy. I will stick to my right (I hope I have one) to call BS when I see it. Just as I did five years ago when Vlad was pushing similar FUD about HTML on this same list. Now seems like he has a new target. Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt I was discussing the quality of the posts on rebuildingtheweb.com. I still think that this groups deserves better than writings of the guy who calls end tags elements and thinks that missing end tags for html and body elements in HTML4 is invalid markup. Seems Russ and you opted to discuss me instead. Do you think that quote still applies? Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- -- Peter Costello +61 437 673 901 http://www.petercostello.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
Rimantas: HTML5 guys keep saying that HTML5 supports XML syntax, hence us XHTML freaks can use XHTML5 without having to complain about anything. Maybe have a discussion with our friend Bruce Lawson who will essentially tell you the same thing. I think you are being a bit too harsh on our friend Russ for posting some links. I regularly disagree with a lot of stuff he posts, but I leave a comment on the relevant blog to express my view, not blaming the messenger in the process. The world we live in is pretty strange. If HTML5 kicks in officially at some point, it will be even stranger. There's no doubt about that in my mind. Regards, Jason On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Rimantas Liubertas riman...@gmail.comwrote: I reckon HTML5 Nazis I thought I was being rude there… should chill our regarding the XHTML debates as HTML5 and XHTML are interchangeable terms. How so? HTML5 has XML serialization, but that does not make HTML5 and XHTML interchangeable in any way. Comments like this other guy made just add unnecessary negativity to the whole thing. So no matter how wrong someone is nobody can say that without being unnecessary negative? Russ is a legend in his own right and no one should even attempt to cyber bully him. ;-) Asking for a basic QA when choosing links for light reading counts as cyber bullying? This place gets stranger and stranger… Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
Guys, Shouldn't this be a separate thread? Maybe there shouldn't be any thread in the first place. On the other hand, my complaint was about Some links. Anyhow, I won't bother you anymore. My apologies to anyone offended. Have a great holidays and less Out of office replies next year. Best wishes, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)
- Original Message - From: Rimantas Liubertas riman...@gmail.com To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09) Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** At least give me the option of reading your pages in English if you are going to argiue a point here on the list in English...otherwise I am forced to believe predjuice in your 'rant' here that may not be reflected in your opinions online. Aren't we all 'one in the same' - those who embrace this communication technology called the internet or are we going to let it segregate us as history dictates?? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 book(s)
Mark Pilgrim is currently writing Dive Into HTML5http://diveintohtml5.org/to be later published by O’Reilly. A really great resource to learn more about HTML5. -- Samuel Santos http://www.samaxes.com/ http://twitter.com/samaxes On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Palle Zingmark pa...@palleman.nu wrote: If you need (want) to catch up, I would start with this one. :) Beginning HTML5 and CSS3: Next Generation Web Standards, by Christopher Murphy http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430228741 Good luck! /Palle Zingmark http://www.palleman.nu http://twitter.com/palleman On Dec 22, 2009, at 20:10 , designer wrote: O.K., so David Laakso's recent mail made me realise that I need (want) to catch up. I looked online for any html 5 books, and there are a LOT! So, could I please have your recommendations on (recent) books which tell the reader 'how to write html 5' Many thanks, Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** Palle Zingmark www.palleman.nu pa...@palleman.nu *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
