RE: [WSG] VIRUS!!!
Well, that was fun! I foolishly trusted that the email was from the group ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and that I had for some reason been suspended. So I opened the attachment and clicked the file! How foolish of me! If only I had expanded the width of the filename column. It even had a program like icon. I suppose it was kinda intelligent of them to include so many trailing spaces before the file extension so I'm semi impressed as I haven't been caught like that before. It automatically shuts down task manager when you try to open it too so it was real battle to try and end the process in the 1 second you have before it closes. It appears it was sent through the wsg mail server so maybe you guys should check if it is still in the queue somewhere? Assuming this wasn't only sent to me. Oh great, it also adds entries to your host file, shuts down Norton and turns off your firewall. Ohhh the pain! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Brasna Sent: Tuesday, 31 May 2005 1:57 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Definition lists for comments in blogs Foobar IS F.U.B.A.R. It isn't, it's only derived from it. See http://kb.iu.edu/data/aetq.html -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] IE layout issues
Only a couple of things I noticed in ie6. In the top area where you have Login in, Account Shopping cart etc. The padding is not being applied in IE as it is in FF. Also, the dashed line which makes up the bottom border of the top area (this could be the margin-top of the main content area) is not extending across the whole width of the page. Seems about 100 or so px short. I haven't had time to look at the code but that is what I noticed at first glance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Wood Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2005 4:08 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] IE layout issues Hello list-o-geeks, I've recently designed (and partially built) an online store. Its in its 'soft launch' phase as there are some issues with IE. None of the developers (including me) have a windows machine available to test on IE, etc... Would you guys mind having a look at http://champion.net.nz and let me know of any massive differences between firefox and IE (possible solutions would be a god-send!) The style sheet I'm worrying about is: http://champion.net.nz/default.css Thanks in advance. Darren ps - i'm aware of actual bugs in the cart/store etc. Those are being sorted before the css issues. pps - i'm lazy, I know... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] 2 WEEKS TONIGHT! Funkdub @ City Bar, Chester
Title: sam hutchinson / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can someone tell me why I am receiving this rubbish??? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Hutchinson Sent: Saturday, 15 January 2005 3:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] 2 WEEKS TONIGHT! Funkdub @ City Bar, Chester Importance: High Beat theJanuary blues and come out of hibernation... Get that monkey off your back with some weekend breaks+ beats!! PLUSnow get online at: www.funkdub.info ...the banter is ideal for dull friday afternoon's (like today!) FUNKDUB IS BACK, AND YOU ARE ALL INVITED! 28th January 4th March 2005 Downstairs @ City Bar, Cty Road, Chester 8pm - Late / Cost : ZERO if for whatever reason you cannot see the flyer, please visit: http://www.funkdub.info/xhtml/live.html please feel free to forward this message on...
RE: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry
Certainly has WOW! Talk about a vibrant background. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Saturday, 25 December 2004 1:38 AM To: Web Standards Group Subject: [WSG] an even more amazing css zen garden entry Now there were some people on-list who thought the last Zen Garden entry I posted lacked a certain wow factor. Well, how about this entry which seems to have it all... Style... Class... Wow... and lots of animation! http://brucelawson.co.uk/zengarden.htm :) Russ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] My Site
Anthony, You have 120 errors on that page. Most of them are br errors missing their end tag. A simple search and replace will get you down to about 20 errors. (maybe less I can't be bothered wading through them all.) Try in your favourite editor: Find: br Replace With: br / Even note pad has SR so you should be able to do this without too much trouble. But please, do it! The fact that you ask for help but have not addressed these issues first is quite annoying. You spend more time defending your umm styles. Meh. Next you'll want to clean up your img tags. You should add a trailing slash to the end of each tag. E.g. img alt= src= / Then you will get the errors down to a manageable number and should be able to work through them yourself. It is important to do this otherwise your wasting your time even bothering. The validator should be your first port of call. As for I think that I have done a nice job with the new stylesheets. I have no doubt the site is a personal achievement and well done to actually having a go. I do think you could benefit from suggestions already made about your site as the comments have be constructive and valid apart from the one flaming you received but the frustration was well meant. o_O. nice is nice. Your style switcher is a good idea but the change of styles should actually reflect a complete style change. The styles themselves require work and suggestions made about contrast and font size are definitely something you should look into. Style2 text is quite hard to read on the right hand side. Something to do with oh...white on one of the lightest grays. The wellstyled colorscheme chooser is fantastic. It can do al the work for you. Would your screen resolution happen to be at 800x600 default? That's ok but you should change your res to 1024x768 and see what your site looks like full screen. Pretty standard res these days. But fix those validator errors here: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A//www.dotradio.uni.cc/%3F page%3Dhome (Copy and past if the link breaks) Regards, Brett -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Timberlake Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2004 12:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] My Site I think that I have done a nice job with the new stylesheets. On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:58:20 +0100, JohnyB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try http://colorschemer.com/ Have a look at http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html -- Jan Brasna :: alphanumeric.cz | webcore.cz | designlab.cz | janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Anthony Timberlake DJ on Dot Radio http://www.dotradio.uni.cc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] My Site
Validates??? Have I got the wrong url or something. I just checked www.dotradio.uni.cc and it still has 120 errors? Did I miss something? Regards, Brett -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of haggis Sent: Wednesday, 22 December 2004 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] My Site Well, it's getting there the html now validates but the css still does not. It has the same errors as before only now they are on all three stylesheets. You cannot list sizes or dimensions without the unit in other words padding: 2; is not valid however, padding: 2px (or em or %) is. and the same goes for font-size: 14px; is how it should read and NOT font-size: 14; You still need to specify a generic font as well Fix those and it'll be fine ... B. William Haggerty VWH Web Services http://vwh.ca - Original Message - From: Anthony Timberlake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] My Site I think that I have done a nice job with the new stylesheets. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] link rel not working. @import ok!
Thanks Charles. I'll try both those things now. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Martin Sent: Wednesday, 15 December 2004 3:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] link rel not working. @import ok! Brett Walsh wrote: All of my style sheets are included using link rel= / but one of the style sheets was not being applied. I say all as there are actually about 5 style sheets, some dynamically included. I thought there might be a restriction on the number of sheets allowed. Is there? I changed the problem style sheet to be included using @import and the all styles were applied as expected. It won't work using link rel and I don't understand why. Have you tried placing the stylesheet link that is not being applied at the top of the list? If the styles contained in it are applied, then it would seem there is some unexpected limitation (or one of the other stylesheets has identifiers with great specificity that are overriding what the last included stylesheet contains). And it may be FF and not IE. I haven't checked the W3C to see if there is a specific intentional limitation to which the browser is adhering. If it doesn't work, then there is something odd about the file itself (possibly missing a closing bracket somewhere that is causing a problem). Just a few ideas to further narrow down the possibilities on the issue at hand. Charles Martin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] link rel not working. @import ok!
Hey everyone, Without showing any code I was wondering if anyone is aware of this problem. Hopefully it is common. I was having trouble with some styles not being applied to elements in a page I was working on. All of my style sheets are included using link rel= / but one of the style sheets was not being applied. I say all as there are actually about 5 style sheets, some dynamically included. I thought there might be a restriction on the number of sheets allowed. Is there? I changed the problem style sheet to be included using @import and the all styles were applied as expected. It won't work using link rel and I don't understand why. Anyone experienced this before? Testing in ff. Regards, Brett ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Changing Standard
That's a good explanation
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sam Brown
Sent: Sunday, 12 December 2004 2:27 PM
To: berry
Subject: Re: [WSG] Changing Standard
b Why using a:link ?
b a /a means that the word inside is a link
b a { color:blue; text-decoration:underline; }
b is the same as setting
b a:link { color:blue; text-decoration:underline; }
b Link is a redundant tag
I don't know the intricacies of all this, but I believe there is a
distinction. a /a identifies an anchor. Anchors can be used for
other uses besides just hyperlinks. a href= /a identifies a
link. If you use a { } to style all links, you may accidentally
capture other uses of the anchor tag. However, a:link { } will
properly style JUST the hyperlink usage of the anchor tag.
-Sam
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[WSG] alt or title...
Hey everyone. I keep forgetting and need some clarification on the use of alt and title and which is most appropriate. I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand Im meant to use alt for links and title for images. Or is it the other way around? Or both? Fairly simple one. Is this correct? Regards, Brett Walsh
RE: [WSG] alt or title...
ok I will jot that one down. That article at beras street was nice and helpful. I was getting confused as the validator was complaining about no alt on links for strict dtd. Thx all of you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lea de Groot Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2004 11:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] alt or title... On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:06:52 +1100, Brett Walsh wrote: I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand I'm meant to use alt for links and title for images. Or is it the other way around? Or both? The other way around - the alt attribute goes on the img tag, to provide some information when the image isnt available (eg screen readers, text browsers). The alt attribute is required on img tags, but may be blank if the image is purely decorative. The title attribute goes on the anchor tag, and is optional. It is to provide additional information on the link, over and above what appears in the link text. HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] It's so frustrating. Webstandars, accesibility and Firefox as a sales argument.
Searching for s2store in google returns it as the first result? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristof Rutten Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2004 8:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] It's so frustrating. Webstandars, accesibility and Firefox as a sales argument. Hi All, I don't know if you guys experience the same anoying and frustrating talks when it comes to convince a prospect/client of the fact his/her site isn't working for most of the world. -- The fact that it's not build following certain standards, the fact Google is like a blind, numb en deaf person and so on. Finally you have the guy convinced, in comes the next frontpage cowboy. He lowers the price, the target, the standards .. and up up and away, there goes another client. How do you convince your client to spend a little more onthe design, the coding and the usability when the most simple logic doesn't work ? Do you have the same feeling most people don't care about all of the above and keep running around with the idea IE will fix all. Prospects site: http://www.s2store.be Frontpage cowboys: http://www.xperienz.be The prospect is complaining about the fact his site doesn't show up in Google and zhy all of his competitors do. The Google results : http://www.google.be/search?q=site:s2store.behl=nllr=start=20sa=N Remarks, ideas - toughts ? .K
RE: [WSG] Font size ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED
Here here. Bout 30 emails wasting everyones time. More about standards less about egos! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 9:21 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Font size ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED THREAD CLOSED ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] discussion at juicy studio: It's all in the MIME
In php,
?php header('Content-type: text/html'); ?
In asp,
% response.ContentType=text/HTML %
Or whatever your chosen mime type.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joshua Street
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 11:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] discussion at juicy studio: It's all in the MIME
You can use PHP to output header information, and also to do content
negotiation. I don't know code for it off the top of my head, but Google
probably would turn up something.
Regards,
Joshua Street
base10solutions
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From: Richard Czeiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 11-Nov-04 11:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject:Re: [WSG] discussion at juicy studio: It's all in the MIME
Aha! NOW i get it!
Thanks Patrick. I guess with people telling you to put inline scripts as
text/JavaScript and CSS as text/css I just assumed that the meta would
take care of it
No one said anything previously about the server bit...
That's clarified it for me.
BUT...
If, like most of my customers, theire sharing a server at some hosting
company, then it's unlikely that the host would do this to their servers...
Hmmm
Richard :o
- Original Message -
From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] discussion at juicy studio: It's all in the MIME
Richard Czeiger wrote:
According to W3C, 'application/xhtml+xml' is the MIME type to use.
I've put it pages and seen it not only validate, but also display
correctly
in IE5.0 and IE6.
If IE displayed the page, rather than prompt you to download/save the
file, then you're *not* really sending it as application/xhtml+xml.
Taking a stab in the dark, I'd guess that all you did was change the
content type meta to it. Well...that's not the way to do it. Your
*server* needs to be configured to send out proper
application/xhtml+xml, or - if you're using something like PHP
server-side - you need to send the appropriate headers. If all you did
was indeed just change the meta, your server is happily still sending
out your page as text/html, and that's why IE is displaying it.
If you have Firefox, simply go to the page in question and do Tools
Page Info. On the resulting window, look for Type. You're more likely
seeing text/html there, indicating that it's not application/xhtml+xml
Oldie but goldie on the subject:
http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/dive-into-xml.html
Patrick H. Lauke
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RE: [WSG] Site Check please
Looks great -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon dodson Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Site Check please Hi Guys, About to Launch this site, but before it goes could you please take a look and tell me what you think. http://www.matamanoa.com/new/ Rgds n thanks Simon ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site Check please
Natalie you just sent 4 of the same email. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Natalie Buxton Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2004 12:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Check please Hi Simon My main concern is your menu: li id=homea href=index.php/a/li There is no title on the href, and as the images are done as backgrounds, there is no indication of what is here when I have images off. I really like the design and balance. Natalie On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:40:16 +1000, simon dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, About to Launch this site, but before it goes could you please take a look and tell me what you think. http://www.matamanoa.com/new/ Rgds n thanks Simon ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Website Designer/Developer www.nataliebuxton.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
