Re: [WSG] PHP Standards
Hi Ian You may want to check out some pre-existing PHP coding standards: http://pear.php.net/manual/en/standards.php and the incomplete http://pear.php.net/manual/en/pear2cs.php http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/coding-standard.html Both PEAR and Zend Framework are Open source repositories of PHP code, written to their respective standards, and well documented. For less organised code, try http://www.phpclasses.org Ray At 01:32 AM 17/05/2008, Ian Chamberlain wrote: Fingers crossed this is not too far off topic; being a newby to PHP; any clues where I can find how-to's, snippets, libraries or even application suites built from PHP that are built to a good minimum standard please. I am guessing that PHP is much like JavaScript in that a lot of what is floating about is either poor or pooh the result of all the good programmes stending their time on ASP or J2EE. Thanks Ian *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Chinese translations and PHP includes
Is your include file written in the correct charset? At 10:50 AM 21/03/2006, Adrian O'Hagan wrote: Hello list, I am embarking on my first multi-lingual site (English, Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese). It is to be a static site (no databases) and I have used PHP to take advantage of the server-side includes. The doctype for my Simplified Chinese PHP pages is: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtdhttp://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html head meta http-equiv=Content-Language content=zh / meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=GB18030 / I do not place any header in my includes, simply the raw HTML I think I will need. (In the example file it is nothing more than the Chinese text wrapped in a paragraph tag.) My major problem is this: when I save the include, all Chinese characters are rendered as a series of question marks. You can see my example file here: http://www.digitaldogma.com.au/clients/helprequest/http://www.digitaldogma.com.au/clients/helprequest/ Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks, Adrian. Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f:+61 2 4757 3808 | m:0414 270 400 | e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | w:www.tweek.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Certified Usable
Reminds me of McDonalds trademarking the '100% Australian Beef' thing... did you trust them? At 02:06 PM 20/03/2006, you wrote: Sydney-based Usability company PTG has made the claim that they can certify the usability of their websites: http://www.usabilitynews.com/news/article3005.asp In an article on the AIMIA website, Craig Errey, manager of PTG, says we're apparently the first group, worldwide, who can confidently state whether a product is usable or not, and stand by that claim. http://www.aimia.com.au/i-cms?page=1755 To me that all sounds very dodgy. Nobody can guarantee the usability of their website. I mean, alright, let's define Usability. If PTG are talking about the ability of a user to open the homepage of the website, read the content and click onto one of the sub-sections, fair enough, it's probably safe to say that their sites are usable. But then again, even my mum would be able to create a website that is usable with the help of Microsoft Frontpage. User-friendly, that's something different. And in my opinion nobody can guarantee the user-friendlyness of a website to all users in the world. Any thoughts? Andreas Boehmer User Experience Consultant Addictive Media Phone: (03) 9386 8907 Mobile: (0411) 097 038 http://www.addictivemedia.com.au Consulting | Accessibility | Usability | Development ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f:+61 2 4757 3808 | m:0414 270 400 | e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | w:www.tweek.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] page break when printing
I would think this is legitimate and semantic use of multiple div's anyone for bending the page-break-X rules a little?? At 01:57 PM 10/03/2006, Jack Pivac wrote: on 10/03/06 13:56 Lachlan Hunt said the following: I have a page with about 20-30 div's each about 200-300px height. With that many, you may be overusing/abusing the div element. It's a common mistake, often referred to as div-mania (or something along those lines). You should probably try and find more semantic elements. So in this case http://temp.delphinus.co.nz/tab/test.html What would you recommend instead? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f:+61 2 4757 3808 | m:0414 270 400 | e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | w:www.tweek.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] HELP
http://pear.php.net/package/HTML_TreeMenu At 07:17 PM 1/03/2006, Al Kendall wrote: Can anyone point me in the right direction not out the door please :) to finding a good PHP Menu / Navigation script? -- Thanks! Al Kendall Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
Re: [WSG] HELP
http://pear.php.net/package/HTML_TreeMenu At 07:17 PM 1/03/2006, Al Kendall wrote: Can anyone point me in the right direction not out the door please :) to finding a good PHP Menu / Navigation script? -- Thanks! Al Kendall Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
Re: [WSG] Converting the heathen: never again
Hi there
http://www.ilisys.com.au/
Get a new ISP dudedon't just stand there and break
Ray
At 02:16 PM 27/02/2006, you wrote:
Hi folks,
I hereby publicly declare that my days of complaining to website
authors that I cannot view their site at 800x600, and then opening
my
big mouth about other dubious issues I notice on their site, are now
over.
I dropped a line to my ISP (ostensibly to enquire about my account)
and mentioned I could not find certain information on their website
(and suggested it might be a usability issue), that the horizontal
scrolling was giving me RSI (joke), commented on their massive use
of
_javascript_ in the head, and their use of CSS in the head,
and for
good measure commented on some validation issues (missing alt text,
no
closing tds etc). I have been soundly trounced and put back in
my
box.
When I could not find what I was looking for I was told:
I recommend that this issue in this case has not been a
usability
issue but instead
has been a logic issue on the clients side, and I would recommend
that
you re-attend
year 10-12 english classes in order to know this in future
cases.
When I complained about horizontal scrolling I was told:
I would recommend that you take a look around the real world,
not
just your own room and classroom, and see that these days even
seniors
are using the resolution of 1024x768. And from a design standpoint,
fixed width is definitely a good idea, due to the complexities that
arise from fluid layouts. And you do have a choice, you have the
choice of increasing your resolution, or alternatively to scrolls
when
you want to see anything to the left or down on the website. To the
best of my abililty that looks like a choice, albiet one that you
may
not enjoy. But then again, I am sure the world does not revolve
around
you.
When I commented on the huge amount of _javascript_ in the head I
was told:
unobtrussive _javascript_ does not work on a number of browsers
short
of the newest, and as such, since [our] site was designed to cater
to
the widest audience possible, inline _javascript_ was deemed necessary
to perform the tasks that were required in these cases.
_javascript_ pulled from linked files doesn't work in some
browsers?
As for the CSS that was in the head (body
{margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px):
CSS was actually designed to be part of the header. It is only
since
that point that separate CSS files have been designed to store this
layout information. While myself, I prefer to have the CSS file
seperated out from the rest of the code, as this makes for a more
efficient and clean source code file, it is by no means required,
and
it is definitely not the whole point of CSS, but simply a very
useful
side-effect.
and..
.. could not be solved with a simple margin:0 as you have
stated,
which is only the newest standard in relation to this issue, but
which
does not resolve the issue in the browsers that this code is
targetted
at. It also does not render correctly in most older browsers due to
the fact that it is a newer standard.
CSS was designed to be part of the head?
margin:0; is new and won't work for some browsers?
As to validation:
the W3C are self-appointed, and the standards they impose are
self-regulated and are only recommended standards. Additionally, our
developers are well acquiantted with the W3C, however, they are also
well aware of when it is necessary to break these standards in order
to create efficient, less bandwidth code.
My own fault, I asked for it, obviously.
I will now be a good little backyard hobbyist web-designer as
they
called me (actually, it's my day job too), and never mention
standards
again.
Just thought I'd share. Sorry if this is list clutter.
(not so) sunny
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Re: [WSG] A hand with text wrapping around images in CSS?
Nice site John... At 06:30 PM 6/02/2006, you wrote: Hi everyone, I would like to ask here, if there is a possibility making my texts wrap around the bottom of my images here http://www.webnauts.net/redesign/test.html, without becoming rubbish when resizing the page. Thanks in advance for your kind help. Best wishes and regards, John ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
Re: [WSG] Most semantic XHTML markup possible - your thoughts
Nathan I have considered this myself. Its almost tabular data really - th and td - in some respects more so than a definition list. I have built my own cms over the years which outputs similar data - these days i just use : pstrongTitle/strong data/p I do not think a standard ordered, or unordered, list qualifies, and I do not think a definition list qualifies either, but I am loathe to use a table for 4 lines of user related login data ray At 09:46 PM 6/02/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Ian, Thanks for your reply! I just felt that a definition list was intended to define terms. For example: h2JAWS (X)HTML interpretationsh2 dl dt em (Emphasis) /dt ddJAWS will use pitch and tone to emphasise the words contained within the em element/dd dl strong (Strong Emphasis) /dt ddJAWS will use pitch and tone to STRONGLY emphasise the words contained within the strong element/dd /dl However, in my case, I just felt that 100 223 578 does not define Customer Identification Number (CID). When I see Customer Identification Number (CID), I would expect to see the dd to be something like The unique identification number assigned to a every customer to ensure the system only accesses the appropriate users data. So am I wrong in my thinking about definitions lists?? Can a random bunch of digits such as 100 223 578 really be a definition that means Customer Identification Number?? If someone can qualify these questions, then I guess I will be convinced that this is the most semantic way to solve my problem. Regards, Nathan Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
Re: [WSG] PDF files on web site
At 10:47 PM 3/02/2006, Stephen Stagg wrote: PDF content rarely has the _behaviour_ of a web page (rich hyperlink structures/inbound/outbound links, etc) PDF's can and do contain hyperlinks and bookmarks, whether made in Acrobat or dynamically generated via PHP et al... Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
Re: [WSG] PDF files on web site
At 10:47 PM 3/02/2006, Stephen Stagg wrote: PDF content rarely has the _behaviour_ of a web page (rich hyperlink structures/inbound/outbound links, etc) PDF's can and do contain hyperlinks and bookmarks, whether made in Acrobat or dynamically generated via PHP et al... Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
Re: [WSG] Standards Savvy Shopping Cart
Hey Ed You could do http://www.oscommerce.com with the STS Template contribution (see the Contributions page, search for STS) It allows you to completely reskin the tag casserole it ships with...so the Standards savvy bit falls onto your plate - but I haven't seen a shopping cart out there thats standards savvy out of the box... The next release of OSCommerce will have a CSS based layout as standard, apparently, but it may be a wee way off yet... ray At 07:27 AM 3/02/2006, you wrote: Hello I am looking for a web standards friendly shopping cart for an upcoming project. I have had a look but not had much luck, previously used CactusASP but the amount of spurious and unnecessary HTML will not have me calling again. Would appreciate any links and/or recommendations. Thank you. Regards Ed Henderson Web Man Walking - web design usability experts t: 0131 669 8800 (local) / 0800 781 2371 (freephone) m: 0781 253 6964 f: 0797 062 1532 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: web-man-walking.com a: 48 Eastfield, Edinburgh, EH15 2PN skype: webmanwalking msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] New technology, old fashioned service Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
Re: [WSG] Holy Grail - with padding!
Just a note that this 'holy grail' needs to be revisited for IE 7... At 06:52 AM 2/02/2006, you wrote: Hi All, I have just read Matthew Levine's interesting piece, http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail and I wondered if anyone has ever seen a similar thing done with padding as well (i.e., same effect as with a padding : 25px all around)? I've searched and not found anything . . . I hate pages with no breathing-space (just my personal quirk). Anyone? Thanks, Bob McClelland Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
Re: [WSG] Holy Grail - with padding!
Al That was my point - when a structure such as Thierry's works in the current Beta of IE7, I would prefer to use it over a 'holy grail' that breaks (ref: http://www.alistapart.com/d/holygrail/example_3.html) Sure its a Beta, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will all change for the final product...though I guess it is MS??? Love your work Thierry! ray At 08:01 AM 2/02/2006, Thierry Koblentz wrote: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/3cols/ ? Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
Re: [WSG] Holy Grail - with padding!
Al That was my point - when a structure such as Thierry's works in the current Beta of IE7, I would prefer to use it over a 'holy grail' that breaks (ref: http://www.alistapart.com/d/holygrail/example_3.html) Sure its a Beta, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will all change for the final product...though I guess it is MS??? Love your work Thierry! ray At 08:01 AM 2/02/2006, Thierry Koblentz wrote: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/3cols/ ? Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
Re: Moral High-horse - was Re: [WSG] Failed Redesign and the Media
Hi folks Can someone pleeese just put this thread to its death? There are much more important things going on in this list...this is a waste of space... I agree with Lisa, keep it positive folks... ray At 05:21 PM 1/02/2006, you wrote: On 1/31/06, Lachlan Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also appreciate that changing 6 or 8 or 10 years of coding practice and philosophy of web development is incredibly difficult Just wanted to come back to this... Let's not defend the hermit. If your practice has not changed in 6 years, that's not good. Sure, it's hard to change something that hasn't changed in 6 years, but nothing should be so solid in the first place. And if your habits haven't changed in 10 years, then would you even be making any money? Isn't the web only 12 years old? -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 15 Wentworth Falls NSW Australia 2782 | p:+61 2 4757 1600 | f: +61 2 4757 3808 | m: 0414 270 400 | e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: http://www.tweek.com.au
[WSG] Positioning issues
Hi all I am putting together a Banner for a site, and attempting to do it using CSS pos. I had a hybrid table/css layout working nicely, but decided to try and do it using a more pure methodology (that was a few hours ago now...lol) http://www.tweek.com.au/pte/ I have been doing my dev in Firefox 0.9 and testing also in IE 6. I havent really begun testing in other browsers as yet. But, I am already having an issue with IE6's psotioning of the navbar. Firefox deals with it nicely, IE does something kinda dumb Can anyone assist with this? Thanks Ray * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Positioning issues
Hi all I am putting together a Banner for a site, and attempting to do it using CSS pos. I had a hybrid table/css layout working nicely, but decided to try and do it using a more pure methodology (that was a few hours ago now...lol) http://www.tweek.com.au/pte/ I have been doing my dev in Firefox 0.9 and testing also in IE 6. I havent really begun testing in other browsers as yet. But, I am already having an issue with IE6's psotioning of the navbar. Firefox deals with it nicely, IE does something kinda dumb Can anyone assist with this? Thanks Ray ---BeginMessage--- Hi all I am putting together a Banner for a site, and attempting to do it using CSS pos. I had a hybrid table/css layout working nicely, but decided to try and do it using a more pure methodology (that was a few hours ago now...lol) http://www.tweek.com.au/pte/ I have been doing my dev in Firefox 0.9 and testing also in IE 6. I havent really begun testing in other browsers as yet. But, I am already having an issue with IE6's psotioning of the navbar. Firefox deals with it nicely, IE does something kinda dumb Can anyone assist with this? Thanks Ray ---End Message---
Re: [WSG] Is a degree necessary?
Hi there At the end of the day its your decision! I did 2 years B.Architecture, then abandoned the whole thing. 4 years later, I started my own business, which I have now been running for 5 years. Actually, I have dropped out of Uni twice. You don't need a Degree. There have been positive arguments made for finishing your course (such as displaying ability to finish something you started), but from my experience, its more what you do now that matters. A degree would be nice to have as a fallback, but as long as I stay in IT, my portfolio speaks for itself. If I get out of IT, then I will create a new portfolio in something else (maybe woodwork??) for which a Degree in IT would most likely have no relevance. Its more your attitude and approach to your work/life that matters. Do you intend to stay in IT until you die? I think trust your instincts, and run with them - best of luck whichever path you chose to follow! Ray At 04:38 PM 13/05/2004, Gabriel Vasquez wrote: Hi Everyone, I apologize if this is off topic but this is one of the few places that I would be able to talk to web designers and get their opinions on this. I've been attending school to get an Associates degree in Digital Media. The program is 18 months and ranges from html to 3d graphics. I'm already more than halfway through my courses, but I find that I hit a road block; I'm not really learning anything. We are just now getting into *basic* css, and _javascript_ in dreamweaver (which I already know how to do, even though I prefer to hand-code). The program is now focusing on 3D animation but that's really not what I'm into at all. I just want to do web design: xhtml, css, ECMAScript/DOM, etc. -- no more, no less. I don't feel I should spend the money for something I'm not getting anything out of. My question to you is this: Do you think it would be wise for me to finish the program and get the degree even though I'm not learning what I want to be learning, or should I just call it off and focus on web design? TIA in advanced for your feedback! Gabriel * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Is a degree necessary?
Hi there At the end of the day its your decision! I did 2 years B.Architecture, then abandoned the whole thing. 4 years later, I started my own business, which I have now been running for 5 years. Actually, I have dropped out of Uni twice. You don't need a Degree. There have been positive arguments made for finishing your course (such as displaying ability to finish something you started), but from my experience, its more what you do now that matters. A degree would be nice to have as a fallback, but as long as I stay in IT, my portfolio speaks for itself. If I get out of IT, then I will create a new portfolio in something else (maybe woodwork??) for which a Degree in IT would most likely have no relevance. Its more your attitude and approach to your work/life that matters. Do you intend to stay in IT until you die? I think trust your instincts, and run with them - best of luck whichever path you chose to follow! Ray At 04:38 PM 13/05/2004, Gabriel Vasquez wrote: Hi Everyone, I apologize if this is off topic but this is one of the few places that I would be able to talk to web designers and get their opinions on this. I've been attending school to get an Associates degree in Digital Media. The program is 18 months and ranges from html to 3d graphics. I'm already more than halfway through my courses, but I find that I hit a road block; I'm not really learning anything. We are just now getting into *basic* css, and _javascript_ in dreamweaver (which I already know how to do, even though I prefer to hand-code). The program is now focusing on 3D animation but that's really not what I'm into at all. I just want to do web design: xhtml, css, ECMAScript/DOM, etc. -- no more, no less. I don't feel I should spend the money for something I'm not getting anything out of. My question to you is this: Do you think it would be wise for me to finish the program and get the degree even though I'm not learning what I want to be learning, or should I just call it off and focus on web design? TIA in advanced for your feedback! Gabriel * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] WYSIWYG editor
www.ektron.com EwebEditPro (esp. the XML version). Rocks hard. Ray At 08:26 PM 6/05/2004, you wrote: Anybody know a WYSIWYG editor but that generate XHTML with CSS? Thk David Gironella Casademont * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * Best Regards Ray Cauchi Manager/Lead Developer ( T W E E K ! ) PO Box 468 Katoomba NSW Australia 2780 p: +61 2 4757 1600 f: +61 2 4757 3808 m: 0414 270 400 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.tweek.com.au
