RE: [WSG] CSS Driven?
What is the definition of a CSS driven design ? I would suggest that a CSS driven site is one in which the look and layout of the site is controlled by CSS, rather than by the default behaviours of 'traditional'[1] presentational elements. Changing a single CSS declaration can theoretically change the layout and appearance of the whole site. The key word here is 'driven', in that the site presentation is controlled by the CSS, much the same as a database driven sites content is controlled and easily changed by making changes to the database records. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com [1] Tables, spacer gifs, and the like - 'superior being' forbid! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] talking points for standards
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: But if that comparison is inaccurate or outright misleading ... ... I'm not sure if getting a contract because of FUD is the right way to go. Which is why careful licence must be applied to the analogies used. Explaining something in terms that the listener can relate to and understand is the aim. Making the listener believe that there is much more than a similarity between the two can indeed be misleading, even wrong, and should indeed be avoided. FUD is what _should_ be removed by the use of terms and explanations that the listener can comprehend. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] talking points for standards
The building codes analogy is one I often use myself, but as pointed out already, it does fall flat when asked for the governing bodies that are policing the web. When faced with a client/agency/designer that doesn't (want to/need to) understand the 'technical' aspects (bandwidth, ease of maintenance, accessibility, cross UA compatibility, 'standards' compliance, etc) then a certain amount of licence has to be applied to the explanation and reasoning for adopting standards. If that involves making a comparison to a standard in their field of business then so be it. A client generally simply wants the site to look the way they want and to work. Can this be achieved using tables, tag soup, intrusive scripting, deprecated tags and HTML2.0? Yes. Will that site be viewable in the vast majority of UA's? Yes. So as far as the client is concerned they have a website that fulfils their requirements. The aim, then, is to look outside the 'magic' of web development, and put the benefits into terms that can be quantified in direct financial terms, eg smaller page size=reduced bandwidth=lower hosting costs, css=quicker site wide changes=reduced maintenance costs, AND/OR site availability for a range of users, eg scripting disabled, vision, mobility or mentally impaired, text only or screen readers, etc. Preventing/limiting access to users corresponds to a drop in financial return or effectiveness of the website. Dollars and cents is the language that will convince most, if not all, sceptics. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: The day WILL come when there is a governing body over the net. There WAS a day when housing codes DID NOT exist and were being worked on and accepted. Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Call me a cynic, but I seriously doubt that any web standards savvy designer/developer may be able to convince clients to hire her by saying that in one day there will be a governing body that will make all non-standards compliant sites illegal. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] My Turn for a Site Critique
I could be missing the whole point completely here, but if you are showing information on travel to Australia, and all things related, then shouldn't the season in Australia be reflected on the site? People know what season it is and what the weather is like where they are - it's where they're going they want to know about. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com Samuel Richardson wrote If you read the month of december as being summer its true for the southern hemisphere but not the northen, to do it properly you would have to detect the hemisphere then choose to load either summer or winter based on where the user is. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] page break up
Hi Lori Your issue with the tabs can be quickly fixed by switching the order in your css of the #menu a:visited and #menu a:hover, so the hover is 'above' the visited declaration. The page break up looks like a guillotine bug. Need to dig more to find the cause for that! Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com Lori Cole wrote: Subject: [WSG] page break up Also, I was intending for the hover of the tabs to be yellow but that does not happen. Thank you for any help. Lori ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems
To make the site truly fluid you'll need to use relative size units (em, %) in place of pixels. This will ensure that container elements change size in proportion to the font contained therein. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of csslist Sent: Friday, 25 November 2005 10:51 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] menu suggestions and problems look at my menu http://65.36.226.10/content/catalog.cfm which is fine until you increase the browsers text size to large then thereare some problems such as overflowing and such and if you use overflow it adds scrollbars even when it's technically not overflowing. Anyone have any good suggestions for this? tia dave ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] position fixed on the thead
Hi Ted In response to: I'd like to keep the thead fixed and let the remainder of the rows scroll underneath it. I came across this http://web.tampabay.rr.com/bmerkey/examples/nonscroll-table-header2.html while scouring the web for fixed print header/footer solutions. It seems to fit your requirements, though I haven't investigated/played with it myself. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] a: class border width problem
Hi
The problem would appear to be that you have applied the border to the li
using the #drNav, and are trying to override that assignement by reseting
the border on the nested a element. Try changing the .corner class to apply
to the nested a:
/* css */
#drNav a {
margin: 0px;
float:left;
display:block;
_display:inline-block;
padding: 4px 12px;
color: #ff;
text-decoration: none;
width: auto; border-bottom: 4px solid #99;
_height:1%;
}
#drNav a.corner {
background: url(../botcorn.gif) bottom left no-repeat;
border-bottom: 0px;
}
/* html */
ul id=drNav
lia href=webhome.htm class=corner Web amp br/
Screen/a/li
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Subject: [WSG] a: class border width problem
Hello list members,
Im doing something ignorant with the below code but i dont know what.
I want to add a round corner to the far left button of my navbar.
Im using the class .corner to insert a bg image in the button.
It works apart from the stuborn bottom border that wont go
away. Any explanations for this?
/*css*/
#drNav a {
margin: 0px;
float:left;
display:block;
_display:inline-block;
padding: 4px 12px;
color: #ff;
text-decoration: none;
width: auto; border-bottom: 4px solid #99;
_height:1%;
}
.corner {
background: url(../botcorn.gif)
bottom left no-repeat; border-bottom: 0px;
}
/*html*/
ul id=drNav
li class=cornera href=webhome.htm Web amp br/
Screen/a/li
-best
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RE: [WSG] two column
Hi JoAn, and welcome to the list Have a read of some of the articles over at A List Apart (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/) which should give you a good grounding for a source ordered 2 column layout. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com -Original Message- Subject: [WSG] two column Hi! I'm new to the list and to CSS. I really need a two column source-ordered CSS layout so that the left column can be used for navigation and the 2nd column would be for content. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Style a parent element based on an id selector of the child element
As Matthew said, the selectors step down, so you could apply the active_menu
id to the td, then use descendence(!) on the contained elements.
td id=active_menuasnip/a/td
#active_menu { styles }
#active_menu a { styles }
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Style a parent element based on an id
selector of the child element
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 16:56 +0800, Martin Smales wrote:
Is there a way to style the td element with a background
colour if an
a element has a active_menu id?
No, CSS Selectors don't allow this. They can only step down, not up.
You could do the equivalent in JavaScript, or... well, a long
term strategy might be lobby browser makers to support XPath
or something. So basically I don't have any good advice for you.
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RE: [WSG] Site Check [BushidoDeep]
Have you run it through the validators you link to? You are showing errors in the XHTML validator, which stops validation in the CSS validator. You are also showing warnings when run through Tidy. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com -Original Message- On Behalf Of Chris Kennon Subject: [WSG] Site Check [BushidoDeep] I've put it through as many hoops (UA's) as I own, let me know how it holds in yours. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Educate the educators (was) Barclays standards redesign
This has evolved into an interesting topic! I started my working life as an apprentice carpenter (some time ago now!). I attended a tech college as part of the apprenticeship learning the skills needed to be a carpenter, and also the regulations and building codes that I would eventually have to build to and comply with. Construction is much like web development in that the standards, methods and tools change quite frequently. At no point was I ever taught to out of date standards/regulations - that would have constituted malpractice on the part of the educators. The difference, as far as I can see, is that other industries have their standards rigidly applied. If you build something sub-standard in construction it goes through several approval stages, so might not even make it to completion. If it does get through this process undetected, and is later found out, then the persons responsible are liable to fines and in some cases imprisonment. Now I'm not saying we should police web design and development in quite the same way - it would be almost impossible to do, and would serve little purpose. The point is, no matter what standards are formulated and pushed by groups like this, they are only going to be best practice recommendations. And so their implementation and promotion can only be achieved by active promotion to _higher_bodies_ responsible for the eduction of future developers, and to key personnel in government and major businesses and industries. Once these people have taken on board the need for compliance with the standards, the message and methods filter down. Businesses will request and expect contracts be completed to standards, educators will teach to standards. Current developers will be forced to code to standards if businesses request so. This is my 0.005c (times are hard!) Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Expanding height of left column to fill space
Stevio wrote When you create columns using CSS, you are creating a table-like look, are you not? Not at all. When you create columns you create a columnar layout, in the same way a newspaper is a column layout, not a tabular layout. The physical appearance may be the similar, but the implied meaning is completely different. A table used purely for achieving a presentational layout goes against the meaning derived from the table element. Using a table for layout is a quick and easy solution, but then where do you draw the line. How many misused tables can you let slip through? Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Text Size Statistics
Thanks Andreas and Peter, your clarifications said what I meant ;) At the risk of starting a flame war, there has to come a time when full acceptance of a standard (in whatever business/industry/walk of life) is made, and that can only happen at the expense and exclusion of non-compliant systems/products/methods. Backwards compatibility can only extend so far, and relaxation of a standard dilutes the purpose and impact of the standard. Why have a standard if there is no effect in not applying or adhering to it? Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Text Size Statistics
Andreas Boehmer wrote In both cases the assumption is made that users have upgraded their machines to the latest technology. It's not so much a case of upgrading to the latest physical technology that is required though in many cases, but an upgrade simply in the browser. In almost all cases a free upgrade at that. I concede that a P1 Win95 with 75MB of RAM may not be as efficient in use as a new machine, but the display on a modern, standards compliant browser on both machines should be no different. That said there may be hardware/software issues that prevent a modern browser being used on an old, low spec machine, and this is where a realistic view needs to be taken regarding the advancement of a technology/standard over the ability of users to keep pace with said technology. I think this discussion has now moved far enough away from the originally posted question to warrant it redundant. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] tabbed content within content pages
Helen Rysavy wrote I wonder if they have several versions of the page that loads up with each tab I would say that the page content is database fed. The selection of the tab simply determines what data is selected from the database for display. While the pages are _individual_ in as far as they have separate URI's, they are all a template, and the template content is derived from the querystring passed through the URL. In this case the URL is rewritten to make it more readable, but behind the scenes it is still in the format of ?a=1amp;b=2. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Text Size Statistics
So what other pages should go here... How about a 'Why doesn't the site work in my browser' page, somewhere to advocate the use of modern, standards compliant browsers. Maybe then users would have a good reason to move away from non-compliant browsers, and designers/developers would be rid of the need to worry about 90% of the hacks we currently use. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Designing for printing
Stevio wrote How far do you go with designing for printing? Is there a particular reason that you are allowing printing of the navigation elements? Unless they add value to the printed page they can all be hidden using a print media style sheet. As for users printing on A5, unless you have specific knowledge that that is the size your users _will_ be printing at then I see no need to prepare for anything other than the _standard_ A4/letter sheet sizes. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Help with a simple (?) problem
Chris Kennon wrote:
Should this rule:
html, body{ height:100%; }
be a default on each page, like
* { margin:0; padding: 0; }
Lea de Groot wrote:
What a great Friday afternoon question!
I haven't yet had to use that on my pages and I, too, am
interested in people's opinion. (In other words 'bump' ;))
I haven't had need (so far) to use the 100% height rule, but would surmise
that if it is applied in the same manner as the margin/padding reset rule,
i.e. to clear the slate and create a level playing field, then it _should_
be part of the default declaration.
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RE: [WSG] Semantic Calendar
Ben Curtis wrote Tabular data means data that both the row and column add meaning and context to the displayed data. A calendar is not row-sensitive; Ben, and others, thanks for the input on this. Ben, your comments particularly align with my thoughts about the appropriateness of using a table for apparently non-tabular data. After a bit more thought I have decided to present the calendar in a table, which, combined with some additional functionality of the calendar, now seems to be the _right_ way to do it. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Spec box and leaders
Wayne Godfrey wrote Is there a way to make leaders for use in an automotive Specifications box? Wayne A brief discussion[1] was entered into recently on the generation of dot leaders. There is a test case[2] to view as well, which should give you a good idea of directions to take. [1] http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/archive.cfm?uid=ADB96CC1-E463-9773-87201 99CF9431C68 [2] http://www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk/blogstuff/dotleader.html Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Semantic Calendar
G'day all I have been tinkering with a calendar generation script (PHP if relevant), and have developed two versions. One uses a semantically correct table for layout, the other uses ordered lists to hold and layout the day names and month dates. After working on this for a while and thinking about it for wa too long I am faced with the quandary - which of the two versions is _more_ semantically correct? Does a calendar (single month) qualify as tabular data, are ordered lists a better fit, or should I be looking at another option? Any feedback/opinions would be appreciated. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Spacing Issue
The search for a valid CSS/(X)HTML, hack-free, 3-column CSS layout continues. I fear you are asking for the impossible, by requiring a 'hack-free' solution. Until such time as all UA's are on a level playing field regarding their implementation and interpretation of the standards hacks are always going to be required. Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division
Is there any other reliable way of mimicking the old-school
valign for table layouts?
I use a combination of display:table for those UA's that handle it, and a
relative/absolute positioning hack for those that don't:
.outer {
border: 1px solid #000;
display: table;
width: 200px;
height: 200px;
overflow: hidden;
}
.inner {
display: table-cell;
vertical-align: middle;
text-align: center;
_width: 100%;
_position: absolute;
_top: 50%;
}
.inner span {
_position: relative;
_top: -50%;
}
div class=outer
div class=inner
spansome test text herespan
/div
/div
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Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 8:13 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division
Hi everyone,
I'm replying to this because I am also stuck on the same issue.
I have horizontal navigation that is floated (son of
suckerfish style) and that has relative widths for scalable
fonts. Some of the navigation text runs onto two lines, and
some of them are short enough to be on one line. So problem
is the one-liners are at the top of the navigation item and I
would like them to be vertically centered. Can't use
line-height trick because then the two liner nav items get
massive line spacing! Menu is generated dynamically from CMS
database so can't muck with the source code in any way.
I realy don't want to use hacky
stuff or any javascript stuff cause already there is so much
hacks just for IE!!!
Rach
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All,
I am sure that you have described this issue thousand times
before, but
I
cannot find the trick that will do this easily : how do you
center text vertically in a division ?
Easy to do with tables of course, but I would like to avoid using
tables at
all.
euh ... as we say in French ... sorry if the question seems
stupid. Pat
There is no such thing as a stupid question. However, there
are often
stupid answers, and this may be one of them:
CenteringTextVertically-- css-d wiki.
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CenteringTextVertically
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RE: [WSG] Resource on using rel attribute to open new window
Andrew Ivin wrote I've found an article at Sitepoint, but my requiremant is only for a new window, and not the specs for controlling window dimensions. Accessify have a useful article about standards compliant new window in XHTML strict which may be of sime use: http://www.accessify.com/tutorials/standards-compliant-new-windows.asp Regards Scott Swabey Lafinboy Productions www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Browser hijacking for usability
Title: Message Jamie Mason I've been thinking about whether it would help to automatically fix these problems by using registry keys, for example. Ask the question of yourself - if you were instructed by a website to run a file that changed registry settings on your pc, would you do it? However appealing the idea may sound, and however easy it makes things for your users, messing with the registry is a risky business at the best of times. I would assume that 99.99% of users wouldn't touch it. Regards Scott SwabeyGeneral ManagerLafinboy Productions:: website design :: website development :: graphic designe [EMAIL PROTECTED]t +61 (0)415 193 126w www.lafinboy.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sent: Monday, 18 July 2005 8:34 PMTo: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'Subject: [WSG] Browser hijacking for usability Hi All, I've had an idea recently I wanted to ask about, as it's slightly shady, but I think it has some value. I'm near the end of a redesign and am working on the help section currently, there's some troubleshooting advice on pop-ups, which although don't really apply anymore due to my removing them and/or using accessible popup code, am keeping the articles for... ... - start contents of a registry file -- REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\New Windows\Allow\] "*.yourdomainaddress.com"=hex: - end contents of a registry file -- ...Would add your site to the allow list for pop ups in ie. This and other browsing problems could potentially be fixed very easily. I like this because users just run the file and they're away, but I'm cringing in the same way you probably are when reading..it all feels a bit shady doesn't it? What do you think? Jamie Mason: Design // Skysports.com http://www.skysports.com/ , Central House, Beckwith Knowle, Otley Road, Harrogate, HG3 1UF
RE: [WSG] textarea: why rows and cols?
The rows and cols attributes - mandatory for any textarea element - defines the *VISIBLE* height and width of the element. So why are they in the mark-up? I've googled long and hard and haven't found anything to the contrary. Surely these attributes should be defined in the CSS. Any thoughts? I declare the height/width of textareas in CSS and don't use cols/rows in the markup. I haven't come across any problems in [ limited ] testing so far. Regards Scott Swabey General Manager Lafinboy Productions :: website design :: website development :: graphic design e [EMAIL PROTECTED] t +61 (0)415 193 126 w www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Exporting inline CSS
Quick question, I have a client with lots of HTML file that have inline CSS. (Over 300 docs) I am looking for some software, or way, that will export this inline css into a external css file. Or even just move it into a embedded style sheet. Am not aware on any package that would do this for you, but it should be quite easy to set up a Regular Expression routine to strip all style='foo' content from a page. Regards Scott Swabey General Manager Lafinboy Productions :: website design :: website development :: graphic design e [EMAIL PROTECTED] t +61 (0)415 193 126 w www.lafinboy.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Can you style Alt text?
The ALT text displayed when an image is not available will inherit the
properties of the containing element. To unify your ALT text you can add a
font style to your img:
img { font: 1em arial #000 }
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When you've got an href'd image that's farily large that's being pulled down
over a dialup line, you can see the alt text in the background as the image
loads.
Usually, this this text is a big, blue serif style.
Sure, once the picture gets completely downloaded, it's hidden, but during
the download process - over dialup - yuck!
I've seen some sites that have alt text behind a href'd picture, but the
text is relatively small and styled.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Is it as simple as creating an alt {} rule with the desired font, size and
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RE: [WSG] link one style sheet from another
Very often helpful, it saves duplication of style declarations for reusable elements. Take for example a screen and print style guide. In general the typographic and colour styles remain unchanged, and layout changes for print styles. If each is placed in it's own file then you only need to create two files that import the relevant style selections. Regards Scott Swabey General Manager Lafinboy Productions :: website design :: website development :: graphic design e [EMAIL PROTECTED] t +61 (0)415 193 126 w www.lafinboy.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kvnmcwebn Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2005 10:07 AM To: wsg Subject: [WSG] link one style sheet from another Is it ever helpful to link one style sheet from another using @ import? I didnt know this worked until i did it by accident the other day. -Kevin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] A form within a form
Hi Charla AFAIK you are not permitted to nest forms. Regards Scott Swabey General Manager Lafinboy Productions :: website design :: website development :: graphic design e [EMAIL PROTECTED] t +61 (0)415 193 126 w www.lafinboy.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charla Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 4:55 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] A form within a form Hi Does anybody know how to sumbit the inner form, if you have a form within a form on the same page and you only want to submit the inner one..how do you do this? Any ideas Charla Nicol Web Developer ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Opinions about contact form please
On Firefox 1.0.2, WinXP, 1024x768 the sample article divs push the footer div down at normal font size. 2 sizes down and alignment is good but readability is gone. Regards Scott Swabey General Manager Lafinboy Productions :: website design :: website development :: graphic design e [EMAIL PROTECTED] t +61 (0)415 193 126 w www.lafinboy.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neerav Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 4:40 PM To: WSG Subject: [WSG] Opinions about contact form please Any opinions about my contact form at http://www.bhatt.id.au/contactus.php are appreciated AFAIK it displays fine in all browsers and even with css off -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bhatt.id.au/photos/ http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] email client css suport
I can't say as I've ever come across any problems with embedding style directives in emails, even with quite extensive style guides. The main consideration seems to be the overall size of the email, and obviously the larger your style declaration is, the larger the email will be. That said, the style declaration may well reduce the overall size of the email by removing superfluous inline styles. Regards Scott Swabey General Manager Lafinboy Productions :: website design :: website development :: graphic design e [EMAIL PROTECTED] t +61 (0)415 193 126 w www.lafinboy.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kvnmcwebn Sent: Monday, 28 March 2005 9:46 PM To: wsg Subject: [WSG] email client css suport Dear freinds and colleagues, How much css -in the head of the html doc-can be used for html email layouts such as newsletters and the like? I assume that to much if any would be risky. -Kevin McMonagle ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
