Re: [WSG] New to Standards.
Well, I'm overwhelmed for your help, thanks everyone! I'll check all the links, and please if you find any more info please send it too. Thanks again! AlvAro - 2006/1/5, Côcu [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.alistapart.com/ 2006/1/5, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Alvaro -- .: marcello.côcu ..: IPwd - stúdio de webdesigner ...: http://ipwd.ppg.br ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] New to Standards.
Hi list, For about 8 years I've been working with HTML and web-related languages. One day I discovered CSS and learnt (not much) about it, but I never realized how powerful it is. Little time ago something called Web Standards called my attention, causing me a very strong curiosity. That's why I started investigating (and found this list in the process), but never found material that introduced the subject from scratch, for a beginner. Now I'm writing to this list to ask for books, eBooks, links, and every piece of information that could help me to learn and understand Web Standards and not feel like an ignorant when I read the posts sent to the list, and, in a not-far future, help others too. Thanks in advance everyone, AlvAro ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New to Standards.
Try this: www.w3schools.com It helped me a lot in the beginning. Cheers Paolo
RE: [WSG] New to Standards.
Hi Alvaro, A really good book that I'm sure has taught many of us lots is Jefferey Zeldman's book Designing with Web Standards. It introduces everything from a beginner's view, moving from tables to more standard markup and more css. Eric Meyer on CSS is also a brilliant book. Rachel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alvaro Mouriño Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2006 3:45 p.m. To: Web Standards Group Subject: [WSG] New to Standards. Hi list, For about 8 years I've been working with HTML and web-related languages. One day I discovered CSS and learnt (not much) about it, but I never realized how powerful it is. Little time ago something called Web Standards called my attention, causing me a very strong curiosity. That's why I started investigating (and found this list in the process), but never found material that introduced the subject from scratch, for a beginner. Now I'm writing to this list to ask for books, eBooks, links, and every piece of information that could help me to learn and understand Web Standards and not feel like an ignorant when I read the posts sent to the list, and, in a not-far future, help others too. Thanks in advance everyone, AlvAro ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] New to Standards.
Hi AlvAro, The WSG Resources section is a good place to start: http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/ :) Paul ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New to Standards.
Hi Alvaro Now I'm writing to this list to ask for books, eBooks, links, and every piece of information that could help me to learn and understand Web Standards and not feel like an ignorant when I read the posts sent to the list, and, in a not-far future, help others too. The Web Standards Group's website has a lot of resources and links to sites that deal with web standards. You might start at http://webstandardsgroup.org/standards/ and follow the link From hacks to web standards - A web designers journey. Sounds like that's just what you are looking for. Also look at the Resources section of the Group's site. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New to Standards.
http://www.alistapart.com/ 2006/1/5, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Alvaro -- .: marcello.côcu ..: IPwd - stúdio de webdesigner ...: http://ipwd.ppg.br ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] New mobile standards body
OMTP is a new standards body attempting to promote open standards amongst mobile manufacturers. With the messy state of Web standards compliance on mobiles, an organisation like this is long overdue although I noticed NTT DoCoMo is a member which is rather like inviting Hannibal Lector for vegetarian. Their Web site (http://www.omtp.org/) was up earlier today but appears to have been replaced with the ubiquitous hello world message; somewhat embarrassing for an organisation with 100,000 Euro membership fees. Kyle -- mobile web gear | pukupi.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] New mobile standards body
Interesting Idea, but isn't this something the web standards project is/should be doing? Kyle Barrow wrote: OMTP is a new standards body attempting to promote open standards amongst mobile manufacturers. With the messy state of Web standards compliance on mobiles, an organisation like this is long overdue although I noticed NTT DoCoMo is a member which is rather like inviting Hannibal Lector for vegetarian. Their Web site (http://www.omtp.org/) was up earlier today but appears to have been replaced with the ubiquitous hello world message; somewhat embarrassing for an organisation with 100,000 Euro membership fees. Kyle Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] New mobile standards body
Kyle Barrow wrote: OMTP is a new standards body attempting to promote open standards amongst mobile manufacturers. With the messy state of Web standards compliance on mobiles, an organisation like this is long overdue although I noticed NTT DoCoMo is a member which is rather like inviting Hannibal Lector for vegetarian. Their Web site (http://www.omtp.org/) was up earlier today but appears to have been replaced with the ubiquitous hello world message; somewhat embarrassing for an organisation with 100,000 Euro membership fees. I just tried it and it was up, but it was probably better when they weren't. Part of their strategy is Participate actively in the standards setting process relevant to the technologies satisfying appropriate industry standards. They should start with their own site. From a Web standards perspective the site looks like bad news. Multi-table layout, Flash navigation, image map navigation, font tags, and fails HTML 4.01 Transitional (besides the embed tag). You would think, an organization focused on mobile users would at least have a Web site which mobile users could use. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] New mobile standards body
It would be great if WASP took a greater interest in mobile Web standards but that is not happening right now. OMTP goes beyond Web standards encompassing all mobile technologies. Kyle On 2004 Jun 24, , at 20:43, Andy Budd wrote: Interesting Idea, but isn't this something the web standards project is/should be doing? -- mobile web gear | pukupi.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
