RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Luke Moulton

 and this is why discussions about prices are usually taboo. 
 Not so much the giving away of trade secrets, but that 
 they're of *very* limited value to most everyone on a mailing 
 list such as this.
 

Thanks Mike. Agreed.  Very difficult to compare Apples with apples
between different design studios but more so across countries. I guess
it was more a regional question and perhaps not suitable for this forum.
Perhaps I need to network more with my piers!

Luke Moulton

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RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Sameer Kekade
This is true Mic

When I started my business, I would quote for as little as AU$ 500 for a
5 page website and still the customers would crib and they would want it
to be done for $300. 

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Well appropriate or not for this list, it's been of immense interest for
me. When you're a one-man business, the only way you ever find out your
price is
wrong is if you price too high and start losing business.   

I've got every bid I've gone for lately and have been puzzling over
whether that's because I provide a fantastic service and I'm a terrific
salesman, or whether I'm charging too little. 

Without wanting to continue the discussion on the list, and without
wanting to give anything away, this discussion has helped me get closer
to making my mind up about this issue. 

Thanks.   This WSG list would be the most helpful list for my business
I've
ever been on.


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com


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 and this is why discussions about prices are usually taboo.
 Not so much the giving away of trade secrets, but that 
 they're of *very* limited value to most everyone on a mailing 
 list such as this.
 


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RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Kay Smoljak
 That's known as price-fixing here in the US and that is illegal.

That's not true. Discussing going rates in various countries is not
price-fixing. A group of people agreeing to only charge a certain rate is
price-fixing. This is having less and less to do with web standards.

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Re: Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 5/31/04 6:19 PM Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:

 That's known as price-fixing here in the US and that is illegal.
 
 That's not true. Discussing going rates in various countries is not
 price-fixing. A group of people agreeing to only charge a certain rate is
 price-fixing. This is having less and less to do with web standards.

So what would be the effect of discussing the prices, if not for everyone to
charge about the same?

Between countries I guess is slightly different, but if it's discussion
between US developers re: developers in the US, and on a public list
(especially if it's a developers' list), then that is price fixing.

I can get you a legal opinion if you wish.

Rick Faaberg

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