Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:02:21PM +1100, Vafa Khalighi wrote: Without floating environment \caption will not work. There are tricks Provided in the minimal package `capt-of'. The feature is also available in the maximal package `caption'. The danger in mixing floats and non-floats is that the numbering might get out of order, because the floating algorithm does not know about the non-floats. Yours sincerely Heiko Oberdiek -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex
Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote
Am 11.10.2011 23:19, schrieb Zdenek Wagner:
2011/10/11 Tobias Schoelliesdieda...@googlemail.com:
Am 11.10.2011 21:20, schrieb Karljurgen Feuerherm:
Hello Ross,
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:15 PM, in message
(2) The footnote has vanished. I suppose that means footnotes aren't
legal
in tables of this type... Can someone suggest a solution to this?
The footnote occurs within a floating table. Which page should it go
onto?
Put the {tabular} into a {minipage}, then the footnote will be tied
to that.
Ok--will try that.
Also, why declare the {table} inside the {enumerate} list, when you
know
that it will float to elsewhere? It probably works OK, but it makes
your
LaTeX source harder to read and thus complicates any later editing
that you
may need to do.
Well--ideally I don't really want it to float, I want it *right there*.
I'm still learning the finer points of these things, but I see your
point :)
If you don't want it to float, don't use a floating environment like
\begin{table}. Just leave it out. (And think twice about centering the
tabular.)
Without floating environment \caption will not work. There are tricks
how to do it but imagine what happens if there is no space for the
whole table on the page. You will have to invent some additional text
above the itemization list in order to put a few items and the table
to the next page. Just one item plus the table would look very ugly.
Do you really want to do that? I would rather think a bit more about
the document structure.
I don't know, what functionality of captions you need. For only text
below (or above) the tabular, there are simple methods such as
multicolumn or a surrounding tabular or a minipage / parbox.
For more specific functionality you should really think about what the
purpose and structure of this table in this document are. Maybe, letting
it flow is better suited.
Generally speaking: before forcing LaTeX to do something, it doesn't
naturally support, think about adapting to LaTeX's way.
ciao
Toscho
Thanks!
K
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Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote
2011/10/12 Tobias Schoel liesdieda...@googlemail.com:
Am 11.10.2011 23:19, schrieb Zdenek Wagner:
2011/10/11 Tobias Schoelliesdieda...@googlemail.com:
Am 11.10.2011 21:20, schrieb Karljurgen Feuerherm:
Hello Ross,
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:15 PM, in message
(2) The footnote has vanished. I suppose that means footnotes aren't
legal
in tables of this type... Can someone suggest a solution to this?
The footnote occurs within a floating table. Which page should it go
onto?
Put the {tabular} into a {minipage}, then the footnote will be tied
to that.
Ok--will try that.
Also, why declare the {table} inside the {enumerate} list, when you
know
that it will float to elsewhere? It probably works OK, but it makes
your
LaTeX source harder to read and thus complicates any later editing
that you
may need to do.
Well--ideally I don't really want it to float, I want it *right there*.
I'm still learning the finer points of these things, but I see your
point :)
If you don't want it to float, don't use a floating environment like
\begin{table}. Just leave it out. (And think twice about centering the
tabular.)
Without floating environment \caption will not work. There are tricks
how to do it but imagine what happens if there is no space for the
whole table on the page. You will have to invent some additional text
above the itemization list in order to put a few items and the table
to the next page. Just one item plus the table would look very ugly.
Do you really want to do that? I would rather think a bit more about
the document structure.
I don't know, what functionality of captions you need. For only text below
(or above) the tabular, there are simple methods such as multicolumn or a
surrounding tabular or a minipage / parbox.
For more specific functionality you should really think about what the
purpose and structure of this table in this document are. Maybe, letting it
flow is better suited.
The purpose of \caption is not only to typeset the caption but also
display the number, add the caption to the list of tables (figures)
and allow for cross references. It is defined in the floating
environments only. If you want to have this functionality outside
floating environments, you must cheat LaTeX. Vafa wrote the solution.
Generally speaking: before forcing LaTeX to do something, it doesn't
naturally support, think about adapting to LaTeX's way.
ciao
Toscho
Thanks!
K
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Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote
Thank-you to all for the various options, which I plan to pursue, but have not yet been able to do. Much appreciated. Zdenek points to the crux of the matter: since I want the label to appear in a list of tables, it makes sense to use a table, and make a few adjustments. In general, algorithms, being finite, will never do everything the way one would like them all the time--some times it requires intervention. The real question is when to intervene and how, not whether to do so. After all, every extension package at some level offers some functionality that original (Xe(La(TeX))) wasn't set up for, and so is doing things other than what was 'originally' natural! BTW I found the missing character problem. Apparently TeXShop was picking it up from elsewhere, and that my font was an old version. Once I put the correct one in place, the problem vanished. K On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:32 PM, in message CAC1phyaB3GZs-LO0Urie35Ocw0L4FD3dsRqvSoF8g=tkffb...@mail.gmail.com, Zdenek Wagner zdenek.wag...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know, what functionality of captions you need. For only text below (or above) the tabular, there are simple methods such as multicolumn or a surrounding tabular or a minipage / parbox. For more specific functionality you should really think about what the purpose and structure of this table in this document are. Maybe, letting it flow is better suited. The purpose of \caption is not only to typeset the caption but also display the number, add the caption to the list of tables (figures) and allow for cross references. It is defined in the floating environments only. If you want to have this functionality outside floating environments, you must cheat LaTeX. Vafa wrote the solution. Generally speaking: before forcing LaTeX to do something, it doesn't naturally support, think about adapting to LaTeX's way. ciao Toscho Thanks! K -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex
Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote
Hello Karljurgen,
Sent from my iPad
On 12/10/2011, at 5:42 AM, Karljurgen Feuerherm kfeuerh...@wlu.ca wrote:
Hello,
(1) I have a font into which I have inserted cuneiform characters (U+12000
range). In my TeXShop source, all my characters display fine. But when I
compile, one of them comes out as a box (see the line in the table beginning
with IG). Can anyone tell me what is happening?
Don't know about specifics for your font.
(2) The footnote has vanished. I suppose that means footnotes aren't legal in
tables of this type... Can someone suggest a solution to this?
The footnote occurs within a floating table. Which page should it go onto?
Put the {tabular} into a {minipage}, then the footnote will be tied to that.
Also, why declare the {table} inside the {enumerate} list, when you know that
it will float to elsewhere? It probably works OK, but it makes your LaTeX
source harder to read and thus complicates any later editing that you may need
to do.
Many thanks for whatever help anyone can offer! Source follows, font is
attached.
Best wishes,
KF
Hope this helps.
Ross
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Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote (source attached)
Sigh. When I emailed it, all the characters were visible in the email, but I
see that by the time my post got here, they'd been stripped. So this time, I've
attached the source.
Sorry 'bout that!
KF
Karljürgen G. Feuerherm, PhD
Undergraduate Advisor
Department of Archaeology and Classical Studies
Wilfrid Laurier University
75 University Avenue West
Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3C5
Tel. (519) 884-1970 x3193
Fax (519) 883-0991 (ATTN Arch. Classics)
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:42 PM, in message 4e9455bb.94ab.00c...@wlu.ca,
Karljurgen Feuerherm kfeuerh...@wlu.ca wrote:
Hello,
(1) I have a font into which I have inserted cuneiform characters (U+12000
range). In my TeXShop source, all my characters display fine. But when I
compile, one of them comes out as a box (see the line in the table beginning
with IG). Can anyone tell me what is happening?
(2) The footnote has vanished. I suppose that means footnotes aren't legal
in tables of this type... Can someone suggest a solution to this?
Many thanks for whatever help anyone can offer! Source follows, font is
attached.
Best wishes,
KF
---
\documentclass[12pt,letterpaper,twoside]{book}
\usepackage{fontspec,xltxtra}
\usepackage{geometry}
\usepackage[normalem]{ulem}
\usepackage{sectsty}
\usepackage{graphics}
\usepackage{tikz-qtree}
\usetikzlibrary{positioning}
\newcommand{\lfam}[1]{\textsc{#1}}
\usepackage{rotating}
\usepackage{xstring}
\usepackage{url}
\usepackage{multirow}
\usepackage{multicol}
\usepackage{supertabular}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\geometry{letterpaper}
% FONTS
\defaultfontfeatures{Mapping=tex-text}
\setromanfont [Ligatures={Common}]{Linux Libertine}
\setsansfont[Scale=MatchLowercase]{Linux Biolinum}
% Set up for Akkadian
\newfont{\obl}{OldBab KF at 24 pt}
\newfont{\ob}{OldBab KF}
\newfont{\obm}{OldBab KF at 18pt}
\newcommand{\bktitle}[1]{\textit{#1}}
\newcommand{\fakesc}[1]{{\addfontfeatures{FakeStretch=1.1092,FakeBold=1.0,Sc
ale=0.71}\MakeUppercase{#1}}}
\newcommand{\akk}[1]{{\sffamily\textit{#1}}}
\newcommand{\smn}[1]{{\sffamily\fakesc{#1}}}
\newcommand{\dtm}[1]{{\sffamily\fakesuperscript{#1}}}
\newcommand{\csign}[1]{{\sffamily\uppercase{#1}}}
\newcommand{\tabref}[1]{Table~\ref{#1}}
\makeindex
\begin{document}
\chapter{Chapter}
\section*{Exercises}
\begin{enumerate}
\item Learn the cuneiform characters, names,
and interpretations in
\tabref{cunlist04}.
\begin{table}
\begin{center}
\begin{tabular}[t]{|l|l|p{0.75in}|p{1.5in}|p{1.5in}|}
\hline
Name
Frequency Sign Syllabic Readings Logographic Readings \\
\hline
\csign{am} 33
{\obm{}} \akk{am}~(33) \\
\hline
\csign{ib} 30
{\obm{}} \akk{ip}~(14), \akk{ib}~(10), \akk{ep}~(5),
\akk{eb}~(1) \\
\hline
\csign{bad}
29 {\obm{}} \akk{be}~(29) \\
\hline
\csign{iš} 29
{\obm{}} \akk{iš}~(29) \\
\hline
\csign{ir} 28
{\obm{}} \akk{ir}~(15), \akk{er}~(13) \\
\hline
\csign{el} 28
{\obm{}} \akk{el}~(28) \\
\hline
\csign{še} 27
{\obm{}} \akk{še}~(7)
\smn{še}~=~\akk{šeʾum}\footnote{There is
some
evidence to suggest that the reading of \smn{še} is actually \akk{ûm},
but the
preference of \bktitle{CDA} has been followed here.}\\
\hline
\csign{ul} 27
{\obm{}} \akk{ul}~(27) \\
\hline
\csign{ig} 26
{\obm{}} \akk{ik}~(15), \akk{iq}~(10), \akk{ig}~(1)
Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote
Hello Ross,
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:15 PM, in message
(2) The footnote has vanished. I suppose that means footnotes aren't
legal
in tables of this type... Can someone suggest a solution to this?
The footnote occurs within a floating table. Which page should it go
onto?
Put the {tabular} into a {minipage}, then the footnote will be tied
to that.
Ok--will try that.
Also, why declare the {table} inside the {enumerate} list, when you
know
that it will float to elsewhere? It probably works OK, but it makes
your
LaTeX source harder to read and thus complicates any later editing
that you
may need to do.
Well--ideally I don't really want it to float, I want it *right there*.
I'm still learning the finer points of these things, but I see your
point :)
Thanks!
K
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Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote
Am 11.10.2011 21:20, schrieb Karljurgen Feuerherm:
Hello Ross,
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:15 PM, in message
(2) The footnote has vanished. I suppose that means footnotes aren't
legal
in tables of this type... Can someone suggest a solution to this?
The footnote occurs within a floating table. Which page should it go
onto?
Put the {tabular} into a {minipage}, then the footnote will be tied
to that.
Ok--will try that.
Also, why declare the {table} inside the {enumerate} list, when you
know
that it will float to elsewhere? It probably works OK, but it makes
your
LaTeX source harder to read and thus complicates any later editing
that you
may need to do.
Well--ideally I don't really want it to float, I want it *right there*.
I'm still learning the finer points of these things, but I see your
point :)
If you don't want it to float, don't use a floating environment like
\begin{table}. Just leave it out. (And think twice about centering the
tabular.)
ciao
Toscho
Thanks!
K
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Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote
2011/10/11 Tobias Schoel liesdieda...@googlemail.com:
Am 11.10.2011 21:20, schrieb Karljurgen Feuerherm:
Hello Ross,
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:15 PM, in message
(2) The footnote has vanished. I suppose that means footnotes aren't
legal
in tables of this type... Can someone suggest a solution to this?
The footnote occurs within a floating table. Which page should it go
onto?
Put the {tabular} into a {minipage}, then the footnote will be tied
to that.
Ok--will try that.
Also, why declare the {table} inside the {enumerate} list, when you
know
that it will float to elsewhere? It probably works OK, but it makes
your
LaTeX source harder to read and thus complicates any later editing
that you
may need to do.
Well--ideally I don't really want it to float, I want it *right there*.
I'm still learning the finer points of these things, but I see your
point :)
If you don't want it to float, don't use a floating environment like
\begin{table}. Just leave it out. (And think twice about centering the
tabular.)
Without floating environment \caption will not work. There are tricks
how to do it but imagine what happens if there is no space for the
whole table on the page. You will have to invent some additional text
above the itemization list in order to put a few items and the table
to the next page. Just one item plus the table would look very ugly.
Do you really want to do that? I would rather think a bit more about
the document structure.
ciao
Toscho
Thanks!
K
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Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote
Without floating environment \caption will not work. There are tricks
how to do it but imagine what happens if there is no space for the
whole table on the page. You will have to invent some additional text
above the itemization list in order to put a few items and the table
to the next page. Just one item plus the table would look very ugly.
Do you really want to do that? I would rather think a bit more about
the document structure.
\begingroup%
\makeatletter
\def\@captype{table}%
\makeatother
\caption{This is a table.}%
\endgroup%
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Re: [XeTeX] Missing char, missing footnote
The footnote occurs within a floating table. Which page should it go onto?
Put the {tabular} into a {minipage}, then the footnote will be tied to
that.
better use ftnxtra package: http://ctan.org/pkg/ftnxtra
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