CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-10-26 Thread Matthieu Herrb
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs
Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/10/26 03:40:53

Log message:
  Build a shared libGLw on platforms with weak symbols support.
  Tell linux.cf that Linux supports weak symbols.

Modified files:
  xc/config/cf/:
NetBSD.cf X11.tmpl linux.cf 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  3.118 +4 -1  xc/config/cf/NetBSD.cf
  1.230 +7 -5  xc/config/cf/X11.tmpl
  3.211 +2 -1  xc/config/cf/linux.cf

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CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-10-26 Thread Matthieu Herrb
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs
Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/10/26 04:22:11

Log message:
  update formatted doc

Modified files:
  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/doc/:
LICENSE 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.22  +17 -1 xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/doc/LICENSE

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CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-10-26 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs
Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/10/26 05:49:50

Log message:
Fix PAL TV output (stupid typo)
SiSCtrl interface update
NTSC-J support for Chrontel 7019 (untested)
Cleanup

Modified files:
  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/:
310vtbl.h init.c init.h init301.c initdef.h oem310.h 
sis.h sis_dac.c sis_driver.c sis_driver.h sis_opt.c 
sis_vb.c vstruct.h 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.17  +46 -59xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/310vtbl.h
  1.28  +6 -5  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/init.c
  1.31  +1 -0  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/init.h
  1.41  +254 -314  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/init301.c
  1.22  +1 -0  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/initdef.h
  1.17  +4 -4  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/oem310.h
  1.79  +22 -18xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/sis.h
  1.43  +1 -0  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/sis_dac.c
  1.144 +21 -24xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/sis_driver.c
  1.24  +17 -10xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/sis_driver.h
  1.40  +8 -3  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/sis_opt.c
  1.28  +5 -3  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/sis_vb.c
  1.20  +5 -3  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/sis/vstruct.h

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CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-10-26 Thread Matthieu Herrb
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs
Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/10/26 10:15:39

Log message:
  Formatting changes for cygwin.cf (Harold Hunt)
  Cross compile fixes for cygwin.cf (Alexander Gottwald)
  Add X11Lib and XextLib as dependencies for XWinServer (Alexander Gottwald)
  (Bugzilla #805)

Modified files:
  xc/config/cf/:
cygwin.cf 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  3.55  +42 -17xc/config/cf/cygwin.cf

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CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-10-26 Thread Matthieu Herrb
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs
Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/10/26 10:19:43

Log message:
  Move lib*.a files from Xbin.tgz to Xprog.tgz.  (Harold L Hunt II)
  (Bugzilla #799).

Modified files:
  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/bindist/Cygwin/:
bin-list prog-excl 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.3   +0 -37 xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/bindist/Cygwin/bin-list
  1.2   +0 -1  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/bindist/Cygwin/prog-excl

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CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-10-26 Thread Matthieu Herrb
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs
Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/10/26 10:59:49

Log message:
  add manual pages

Modified files:
  xc/lib/Xss/:
Imakefile 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  3.5   +15 -1 xc/lib/Xss/Imakefile

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CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-10-26 Thread Matthieu Herrb
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Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/10/26 11:00:24

Log message:
  add manual pages

Added files:
  xc/lib/Xss/:
Xss.man 

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CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-10-26 Thread Thomas Dickey
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Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/10/26 17:08:00

Log message:
Patch #181 - 2003/10/26 - XFree86 4.3.99.15
  
   * implement  boldMode  for  wide-character  logic in drawXtermText()
 (report by Michael Schroeder).
   * modify  UXTerm.ad  resource  file  to include XTerm-color rather
 than  XTerm,  in case the latter file contains no color resource
 definitions, e.g., after [184]patch #180.
   * add action load-vt-fonts() and configureoption
 --enable-load-vt-fonts  which  allows  users  to define additional
 sets of VT-fonts which can be loaded at runtime.
   * add  logic  to wide-character support which attempts to load fonts
 specified  by  utf8Fonts subresources at startup. The subresources
 have  the  same names as the fonts which they replace, e.g., font,
 font1, etc., so that the ISO-10646-1 fonts can be specified in the
 XTerm  app-defaults  file  (this  is  an  adaptation of a patch by
 Tomohiro KUBOTA).
   * improve  Set  Font  escape  string handling by making the relative
 settings  apply  to  the  size  of  the  font,  as in shift keypad
 plus/minus rather than the menu index.
   * simplify  parameter passing for the set-vt-font action and related
 code.
   * cleanup   some   include-ordering,   moving   some  recently-added
 hardcoded  stuff into xterm.h where it will not interfere with the
 configure script.

Modified files:
  xc/programs/xterm/:
INSTALL MANIFEST UXTerm.ad VTparse.h XTerm.ad charproc.c 
configure configure.in data.c fontutils.c fontutils.h 
main.h menu.c menu.h misc.c proto.h ptyx.h termcap 
terminfo trace.h util.c version.h vms.c xterm.h 
xterm.log.html xterm.man xtermcfg.hin 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  3.33  +6 -1  xc/programs/xterm/INSTALL
  1.23  +1 -1  xc/programs/xterm/MANIFEST
  1.3   +5 -2  xc/programs/xterm/UXTerm.ad
  3.18  +2 -2  xc/programs/xterm/VTparse.h
  3.26  +8 -5  xc/programs/xterm/XTerm.ad
  3.149 +36 -38xc/programs/xterm/charproc.c
  3.75  +340 -313  xc/programs/xterm/configure
  3.62  +11 -1 xc/programs/xterm/configure.in
  3.28  +1 -2  xc/programs/xterm/data.c
  1.41  +275 -92   xc/programs/xterm/fontutils.c
  1.12  +15 -12xc/programs/xterm/fontutils.h
  3.8   +11 -1 xc/programs/xterm/main.h
  3.53  +2 -2  xc/programs/xterm/menu.c
  3.31  +2 -5  xc/programs/xterm/menu.h
  3.81  +16 -9 xc/programs/xterm/misc.c
  3.4   +1 -5  xc/programs/xterm/proto.h
  3.110 +18 -12xc/programs/xterm/ptyx.h
  3.31  +3 -3  xc/programs/xterm/termcap
  3.49  +5 -2  xc/programs/xterm/terminfo
  3.14  +3 -3  xc/programs/xterm/trace.h
  3.78  +35 -23xc/programs/xterm/util.c
  3.93  +2 -2  xc/programs/xterm/version.h
  1.2   +2 -2  xc/programs/xterm/vms.c
  3.92  +18 -1 xc/programs/xterm/xterm.h
  1.101 +34 -3 xc/programs/xterm/xterm.log.html
  3.96  +90 -35xc/programs/xterm/xterm.man
  3.47  +2 -1  xc/programs/xterm/xtermcfg.hin

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CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-10-26 Thread Thomas Dickey
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs
Module name:xc
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/10/26 17:10:32

Log message:
  small fixes for xterm patch #181

Modified files:
  xc/doc/specs/xterm/:
ctlseqs.ms 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  3.50  +3 -1  xc/doc/specs/xterm/ctlseqs.ms

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to.  I am, and, I
   believe, so is Egbert.
 
 No, not currently. I usually go to the web interface and 
 look at the open bugs, process new ones that can be handled 
 quickly, or try to assign them to an expert on the specific 
 area.
 
 There are a lot more areas than we have experts - in these
 cases I try to work on the ticket myself. This, and the
 low quality of some of the submissions, consumes a 
 considerable amount of time.

Indeed, you're doing most of the bugzilla work alone; it's a pity there
aren't more people helping with that.

Perhaps, but Egbert and the others contributing do such a good 
job, that if everyone at XFree86.org actively used bugzilla, 
there would be zero open bugs to fix!  ;o)  Where's the challenge 
in that? ;o)

If everyone used bugzilla, we'd have to go out of our ways to 
find new bugs to report just to keep everyone busy.  ;o)

On a much more serious note though, I'm very happy that bugzilla
has worked as well as it has, and I'd like to thank everyone both
at XFree86.org, and in the community for all the contributions
people have made, both reporting bugs, supplying patches, helping
track down various issues, and committing fixes to CVS, etc.,
etc.

Good work to everyone who has contributed!

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 19:53, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
 Michel Dnzer wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 17:13, Egbert Eich wrote: 
  
 Marc Aurele La France writes:
   
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to.  I am, and, I
   believe, so is Egbert.
 
 No, not currently. I usually go to the web interface and 
 look at the open bugs, process new ones that can be handled 
 quickly, or try to assign them to an expert on the specific 
 area.
 
 There are a lot more areas than we have experts - in these
 cases I try to work on the ticket myself. This, and the
 low quality of some of the submissions, consumes a 
 considerable amount of time.
  
  
  Indeed, you're doing most of the bugzilla work alone; it's a pity there
  aren't more people helping with that.
 
 Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by 
 developers that have been with the project for over two years are 
 certainly part of the problem.

Err, this is about bug triage, which you can do just as well as
everybody else.

I agree that you should be able to commit Cygwin stuff yourself (but I
can't do anything about it), I'm afraid your rants and threats won't do
much good there though.


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Software libre enthusiast  \ http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Peter \Firefly\ Lund
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote:

 When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were
 disrespectful and insulting responses.  Now there is more of the same.

Err... No.

He was quite reasonable, in my opinion.

-Peter
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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread David Dawes
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 02:34:02PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Thomas Dickey wrote:

 On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
 
 
Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are
specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to be
committed.  It is a waste of my time and an insult that I am made to do
 
 
 well, when you graduate and (presumably) find a real job, you'll have
 a chance to get an idea of where time goes.

  the patches _are_ applied, right?

Thanks for your amazing support Thomas.

You don't know anything about me, so you can keep your blanket 
statements about where you time goes to yourself.

By the way, how often do you have to go to the doctor's office?  How 
often do you have to get prescriptions refiled?  How often do you have 
to change the tubing for a medical device that is attached to you?  Huh? 
  Didn't think so.  So, please take this as kindly as possible when I 
say: Go fuck yourself.

The funny thing here is that I am volunteering to take care of my own 
patches and I am personally insulted that my offer is being ignored.

Nobody is going to take you seriously if all you can do is be rude and
insulting.

David
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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote:

  When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were
  disrespectful and insulting responses.  Now there is more of the same.

 Err... No.

 He was quite reasonable, in my opinion.

He thought he was, but when I get email from people phrased that way,
I don't appreciate it.

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote:

  When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were
  disrespectful and insulting responses.  Now there is more of the same.

 Err... No.

 He was quite reasonable, in my opinion.

On the contrary.  Implying that XFree86 owes him anything, be it a
personal/family life or the right to commit, is not reasonable at all.
Saying give me what I want to be a volunteer! simply doesn't cut it.

Marc.

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 03:51:05PM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote:
  On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote:
   When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were
   disrespectful and insulting responses.  Now there is more of the same.
 
  Err... No.
 
  He was quite reasonable, in my opinion.
 
 On the contrary.  Implying that XFree86 owes him anything, be it a
 personal/family life or the right to commit, is not reasonable at all.
 Saying give me what I want to be a volunteer! simply doesn't cut it.

I've tried to stay out of this ...

From my (impartial; I'm not taking sides) reading, he was saying, if you want
me here, it's on my terms, which includes CVS. No CVS, no me. He was (AFAICT)
placing conditions on his continued participation in a volunteer activity, not
making demands of other volunteers.

-- 
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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Craig,

Craig Groeschel wrote:
I'm afraid your rants and threats won't do
much good there though.


Great.  Shoot the messenger.  (btw, No one is ranting or
threatening.  Just being lucid and assertive. IMHO.)
Thanks for your support.  I have tried, and failed on occasion, to 
maintain my composure.

I have noticed a lot of drama and negativity on this list too. 
I don't have experience with other free software projects so I
don't know whether this is the case everywhere.
[snip]

I guess what I am saying is I think XFree86 has a tremendous
opportunity here.  And I for one will be watching to see the
outcome.  I send my best wishes to all parties.
Thanks again for your support.

Harold

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread David Dawes
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Michel Dänzer wrote:
Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by 
developers that have been with the project for over two years are 
certainly part of the problem.
 
 Err, this is about bug triage, which you can do just as well as
 everybody else.

No, this is about my submitting Cygwin-specific bugs that can't actually 
be assigned to me for committing them, even though I am the expert on 
Cygwin/XFree86.  This thread started to point out the hypocrisy of the 
situation and to see what the official response to this was.

When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were
disrespectful and insulting responses.  Now there is more of the same.
As a volunteer myself, I don't have to take this type of attitude from
you or from anyone else.  And I won't.

David
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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
David Dawes wrote:
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

Michel Dänzer wrote:

Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by 
developers that have been with the project for over two years are 
certainly part of the problem.
Err, this is about bug triage, which you can do just as well as
everybody else.
No, this is about my submitting Cygwin-specific bugs that can't actually 
be assigned to me for committing them, even though I am the expert on 
Cygwin/XFree86.  This thread started to point out the hypocrisy of the 
situation and to see what the official response to this was.


When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were
disrespectful and insulting responses.  Now there is more of the same.
As a volunteer myself, I don't have to take this type of attitude from
you or from anyone else.  And I won't.
David,

I mentioned that failure to commit my patches in a timely manner causes 
me to have a hard time figuring out which have been committed and which 
haven't (this was when I was sending patches to [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

You probably never saw this system from the standpoint of a non-commit 
developer.  The problem here is that you send a patch to the list, it 
randomly gets committed by someone (you don't know who in advance, so 
you have to track everyone's committs), then you have to figure out who 
committed it (if anyone) and if it was done correctly.  The system was a 
mess and did not aid non-commit developers in tracking their patches.

Your response to this comment was that I was unorganized and that it 
cause by my lack of attention to detail.

Was that a respectful and non-insulting response to my message?

Is this my formal message to piss off?

Harold

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
David Dawes wrote:

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 02:34:02PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

Thomas Dickey wrote:


On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:



Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are
specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to be
committed.  It is a waste of my time and an insult that I am made to do


well, when you graduate and (presumably) find a real job, you'll have
a chance to get an idea of where time goes.
the patches _are_ applied, right?
Thanks for your amazing support Thomas.

You don't know anything about me, so you can keep your blanket 
statements about where you time goes to yourself.

By the way, how often do you have to go to the doctor's office?  How 
often do you have to get prescriptions refiled?  How often do you have 
to change the tubing for a medical device that is attached to you?  Huh? 
Didn't think so.  So, please take this as kindly as possible when I 
say: Go fuck yourself.

The funny thing here is that I am volunteering to take care of my own 
patches and I am personally insulted that my offer is being ignored.


Nobody is going to take you seriously if all you can do is be rude and
insulting.
Excuse me, Thomas Dickey stepped *way* out of line here.  This is a side 
conversation, but since he made his insult public, I made my response 
public.

As for the core of this thread, I am trying very hard not to be rude and 
insulting.

Look, everyone knows that you like the development model that you have 
going here (else, it wouldn't be setup this way).  How would you suggest 
I word a request that you change that development model in such a way 
that it would not be inflamatory towards you or XFree86?  It can't be 
done.  That is part of the problem: Any way that I, or another 
developer, assertively requests CVS access is met with a flame fest. 
That is not a sign of a healthy organization that is looking to attract 
developers.

Harold

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote:

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote:


On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote:


When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were
disrespectful and insulting responses.  Now there is more of the same.
Err... No.

He was quite reasonable, in my opinion.


He thought he was, but when I get email from people phrased that way,
I don't appreciate it.
Thomas Dickey,

You sent me the biggest insult I have ever received in my life.  How can 
you not realize that?  How can you do anything except apologize for your 
extremely rude message?  Please, never, ever, respond to another word 
that I write until you correct yourself.

Harold

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ftp/anoncvs server problems

2003-10-26 Thread David Dawes
The server that hosts the XFree86 anoncvs, ftp, and cvsweb services died
on Saturday morning.  Most other services, like the mailing lists and
the web site, should be unaffected.

David
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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Peter \Firefly\ Lund
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Thomas Dickey wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote:

  On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote:
 
   When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were
   disrespectful and insulting responses.  Now there is more of the same.
 
  Err... No.
 
  He was quite reasonable, in my opinion.

 He thought he was, but when I get email from people phrased that way,
 I don't appreciate it.

He really was.  You weren't.  His reply perhaps wasn't, either, but at
least there was a reason for that which was discernible to dispassionate
bystanders.

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Marc Aurele La France wrote:

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote:


On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote:


When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were
disrespectful and insulting responses.  Now there is more of the same.


Err... No.


He was quite reasonable, in my opinion.


On the contrary.  Implying that XFree86 owes him anything, be it a
personal/family life or the right to commit, is not reasonable at all.
Saying give me what I want to be a volunteer! simply doesn't cut it.
Marc,

I am not implying that anyone owes me anything.

XFree86 owes me nothing.

I am asking to do *more* not *less* for the XFree86 project.  Committing 
my own Cygwin-specific patches not only saves me time, but it saves all 
other XFree86 committers time as well.

How is that implying that XFree86 owes me something?

Harold

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Daniel Stone wrote:

On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 03:51:05PM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote:

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Firefly Lund wrote:

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote:

When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were
disrespectful and insulting responses.  Now there is more of the same.

Err... No.

He was quite reasonable, in my opinion.
On the contrary.  Implying that XFree86 owes him anything, be it a
personal/family life or the right to commit, is not reasonable at all.
Saying give me what I want to be a volunteer! simply doesn't cut it.


I've tried to stay out of this ...

From my (impartial; I'm not taking sides) reading, he was saying, if you want
me here, it's on my terms, which includes CVS. No CVS, no me. He was (AFAICT)
placing conditions on his continued participation in a volunteer activity, not
making demands of other volunteers.
Daniel,

Thank you.  It is nice to know that what I am writing can be read as I 
have intended it to be read.

Harold

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are
 specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to be
 committed.  It is a waste of my time and an insult that I am made to do

well, when you graduate and (presumably) find a real job, you'll have
a chance to get an idea of where time goes.

the patches _are_ applied, right?

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[Fonts] ftp/anoncvs server problems

2003-10-26 Thread David Dawes
The server that hosts the XFree86 anoncvs, ftp, and cvsweb services died
on Saturday morning.  Most other services, like the mailing lists and
the web site, should be unaffected.

David
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[I18n] redefining keys

2003-10-26 Thread Torsten Foertsch
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Hi,

I have got a notebook with a trackpad and 2 mouse buttons. The middle button 
is emulated. I find it very inconvenient to press these 2 buttons at once. 
But I have got the 2 windows buttons I have never used with linux.

Is it feasible to redefine the combination of pressing the windows key 
(reported as Super_L by xev) and mouse button 1 as mouse button 2 and
let's say Super_L+Shift (or ALT)+mouse button 1 as mouse button3?

Further I want the Menu button (reported as Menu by xev) to behave like an ALT 
key. I have noticed Alt_L reports only one keypress/keyrelease event pair if 
pressed for a longer period but Menu generates a lot of them. How to change 
that?

Can that all be achieved configuring xkb?

Thanks,
Torsten
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[XFree86] respond

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[XFree86] Re: compiled XFree 4.30 on RH8, but fonts are ugly now

2003-10-26 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Brujus wrote:

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 08:50:39 +0100
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Subject: compiled XFree 4.30 on RH8, but fonts are ugly now

Hi, i use RedHat 8.0, compiled XFree 4.30 sources, everything went 
smoothly, installed it, everything ok again, checked the XFree86.0.log, 
everything seems ok, X starts normally, but the fonts are ugly now, 
antialiasing seems disabled. I even tried to compile FreeType 2.1.4 
afterwards, thinking that it could be any freetype related issue, but no 
(and when i turn off antialiasing at KDE3 it gets even worse). Anyone 
has any clues/tips?

Red Hat XFree86, freetype, Xft, etc. is modified with various 
enhancements which dramatically improve font display quality.  If 
you recompile any of those components from stock sources, you 
lose those improvements.  Hopefully these improvments will be 
approved in the next major releases of the upstream freetype, 
Xft, etc. components and no longer require special patches to 
achieve these results.

In the mean time, the easiest and best way to get 4.3.0 running 
on Red Hat Linux 8.0, is to recompile the 4.3.0 src.rpm from 
rawhide, which I intentionally keep it so it works on Red Hat 
Linux 8.0 and newer.

To do this, you need to:

Take expat, ttmkfdir, freetype, fontconfig src.rpm from RHL 9, 
and rpm --rebuild each one of them in RHL 8.0.  Upgrade each 
binary package they produce including the -devel packages.  
ttmkfdir will probably not allow you to install it so leave it 
alone for now.

Now install the rawhide XFree86 4.3.0 src.rpm with rpm -ivh.
Then go into the spec file directory and edit XFree86.spec, near 
the top you'll find a lengthy comment discussing the build_n 
target options.  You will want to set build_psyche to 1 (Red Hat 
Linux 8.0), which then sets various conditionals throughout the 
build process to tweak for RHL 8.0.  Set all other build_ 
options to 0 to disable them.  Then edit the Release: line, and 
add your initials to the end after a ., ie: Release: 41.bt to 
indicate it's your custom build.  That does 3 things:

1) It allows you to upgrade to the new packages with rpm easily
2) It allows you to easily upgrade from this build to the next 
   build later on.
3) Easily differentiates between an official Red Hat build and 
   your custom build.

Once XFree86 is built (it takes 1-2Gb of free disk space), you 
should upgrade to it where the binaries got put, by using:

rpm -Uvh XFree86-*.rpm ttmkfdir*.rpm

As long as you're running the latest Red Hat official kernel 
update, you'll also end up with DRI working without any fuss.

If you have previously installed XFree86 compiled from raw 
sources however, you'll have one problem.  If you try to install 
the newly built XFree86 rpms as above and receive an error 
concerning /etc/X11/xkb, then do the following:

rm /etc/X11/xkb
rm -rf /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb
rpm -Uvh XFree86-*.rpm ttmkfdir*.rpm

That should resolve the conflict, and allow X to be installed 
cleanly.  If you have problems, feel free to ask for more help on 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as numerous users are there who have used 
my special instructions above and got it running nicely.  I'm 
also on the list and will help if I see the post and have time.

Hope this helps,
TTYL

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[XFree86] Re: Xft.h freetype includes qn.

2003-10-26 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Tyler Retzlaff wrote:

Just a quick sanity check to see if I've hosed my X11 headers.  If I want to
use Xft.h X11/Xft/Xft.h must I add -I /usr/X11R6/include/X11/freetype2 for
the freetype/freetype.h?  Or should it be unnecessary?

Just for some background I'm seeing this:

/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/Xft.h:35
:31: freetype/freetype.h: No such file or directory

Where freetype/freetype.h is actually in X11/freetype2 not X11/.

Always use pkg-config to locate a given library's headers, lib 
locations, etc. if possible.

Freetype supports pkg-config, so as long as your freetype has 
installed the pkg-config metadata properly, pkg-config will give 
you the information you need.

Hope this helps.


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[XFree86] Re: ATi Radeon TV output

2003-10-26 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Fredrik Tolf wrote:

I have become aware that the XF86 driver for the Radeon doesn't have
support for TV output. This is rather disturbing for me, since I
really, really, really want that.

Use the GATOS drivers:  http://gatos.sf.net

So anyway, what I really want to know is, does anyone know where to
get documentation on Radeon programming, so that I can add this
functionality? 

In general, you dont.  The longer answer is that you need to 
apply to become a member of ATI developer relations first, and be 
granted member status.  Unless you're working for a company 
shipping a commercial product or doing official video driver work 
or similar, or are a game developer or similar, you probably wont 
be accepted into developer relations as you're not likely to be 
classified as a developer.  If you do get accepted as a 
developer, you have some access to ATI developer documentation, 
however you wont get access to video chipset register level 
programming documentation likely unless you can demonstrate an 
important need for such documentation which nobody in the OSS 
community who already has the documentation hasn't already been 
working on.

As stated above, the GATOS project's ATI video drivers support TV 
out, as does the atitvout program, there may be others.  In 
short, there is enough public information about enabling TVout on 
ATI video hardware, that IMHO you would be very unlikely to 
acquire documentation from ATI on this as the information is 
already public via these projects.


I tried mailing ATI, but it has been a couple of weeks and they
haven't responded (isn't that actually pretty bad?)

I don't think it's bad at all.  I have no idea how many incoming 
emails or phone calls ATI might get from random unknown 
developers wanting to have their technical specifications, but 
if I had to guess, I'd say it's rather high. If they had to pay 
someone to answer the telephone or respond to every one of the 
incoming emails in detail, and then follow up on the likely 
useless flamewar thread that would ensue with the handful of 
people upset they were being refused access to the documentation 
it would probably cost them at least one person or more's annual 
salary just for the purpose of saying sorry, but no..  In such 
cases, it's IMHO easier to just ignore people completely than it 
is to argue with them, about something you know your answer 
firmly already about.

so I was hoping that the original developers of the Radeon
driver would share with me where they got the docs.

From ATI by becoming a member of the XFree86 project (back when
membership was required in XFree86 to be a developer), and then
after that, becoming a member of ATI developer relations.  
However someone wanting the docs for something that already
exists or is already being worked on is likely to be refused
access.  In the case of TVout, it already exists - you just
didn't do your homework hard enough.


Also, I've heard of this Gatos project, but last time I checked,
they only supported TV DACs that were not part of the core
Radeon chip (which is, unfortunately, not my case). Now that I'm
sending this mail anyway, does anyone know their progress? Or,
does anyone know any other projects similar to Gatos?

Last time you checked seems to suggest you don't check the 
GATOS project very often.  GATOS supports pretty much every piece 
of hardware to which any documentation has ever been provided 
for, as well as much reverse engineering.  If ATI would consider 
giving anyone any documentation that hasn't been released 
already, they'd most likely give it to developers who already 
have NDA agreements in place, such as the GATOS developers, or 
DRI developers.  I think the general concensus out there is that 
there are enough developers who already have any documentation 
there is to have, that any features that are unsupported yet, can 
be supported by existing developers who have the docs.  If nobody 
has docs for something in particular, the only people likely to 
get them are people already under NDA.

Of course, this is just my opinion based on my own observations.  
I have no idea what the official criterion is which decides who
will officially get NDA access to the documentation of ATI's
video hardware.  I've got the doc under NDA for up to R200
chipsets, and if there were newer docs available, I'd probably be
able to request them myself.  I don't see any newer docs being 
available, so I think it's a waste of time for people not already 
under NDA to bother asking.  Best thing to do is join the GATOS 
project, or some other project already doing this, than to try to 
startup your own new project.

I wouldn't bother waiting for a response from ATI though.  Quite 
frankly if I were ATI and getting hundreds of requests which I 
wasn't going to say yes to, at some point I'd just start ignoring 
them as incoming spam, or sending out autoresponders Thanks for 
emailing us, we can't respond individually to 

Re: [XFree86] Sapphire Radeon 9000 dual-head problem

2003-10-26 Thread William Gallafent
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As mentioned in the subject I have a Sapphire Radeon 9000
 dual-head video adapter that I'd really like to get working.

I had various problems with dual-head on a Sapphire Radeon 9000
using plain 4.3.0. I advise you to pick up a recent snapshot (or
use current CVS, or current DRI CVS) since there have been many
improvements since 4.3.0 was released.

For what it's worth, I use snapshot 4.3.99.10 with the mergedfb
patch applied, and the attached XF86Config file, and this works
well for me with a Sapphire Radeon 9000 64MB and two Samsung
Syncmaster 152Ts, one connected by VGA, the other by DVI-D. As
an added bonus this also gives you accelerated 3D across both
heads.

-- 
Bill Gallafent.# Example XF86Config file for SuSE 8.2, XFree86 4.3.99.10 with
# mergedfb patch. Radeon 9000 with one DVI-D output and one VGA
# output. Two Samsung 152T LCD panels. There may be some bits that can
# be removed here, left over from a previous xinerama set-up.

Section Files
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni:unscaled
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID
  FontPath  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
  InputDevices /dev/ttyS0
  InputDevices /dev/ttyS1
  InputDevices /dev/ttyS2
  InputDevices /dev/ttyS3
  InputDevices /dev/ttyS4
  InputDevices /dev/ttyS5
  InputDevices /dev/ttyS6
  InputDevices /dev/ttyS7
  InputDevices /dev/ttyS8
  InputDevices /dev/psaux
  InputDevices /dev/logibm
  InputDevices /dev/sunmouse
  InputDevices /dev/atibm
  InputDevices /dev/amigamouse
  InputDevices /dev/atarimouse
  InputDevices /dev/inportbm
  InputDevices /dev/gpmdata
  InputDevices /dev/mouse
  InputDevices /dev/usbmouse
  InputDevices /dev/adbmouse
  InputDevices /dev/input/mice
  InputDevices /dev/input/event0
  InputDevices /dev/pointer0
  InputDevices /dev/pointer1
  InputDevices /dev/pointer2
  InputDevices /dev/pointer3
EndSection

Section Module
  Load dbe
  Load type1
  Load speedo
  Load freetype
  Load extmod
  Load glx
  Load dri
  Load v4l
EndSection

Section ServerFlags
  Option   AllowMouseOpenFail
EndSection

Section InputDevice
  Driver   Keyboard
  Identifier   Keyboard[0]
  Option   MapName Generic Windows Keyboard [ pc105 ]
  Option   Protocol Standard
  Option   XkbLayout gb
  Option   XkbModel pc105
  Option   XkbRules xfree86
EndSection

Section InputDevice
  Driver   mouse
  Identifier   Mouse[1]
  Option   ButtonNumber 5
  Option   Device /dev/mouse
  Option   Name Autodetection
  Option   Protocol imps/2
  Option   Vendor Sysp
  Option   ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

# The spurious displaysize here is to trick the xserver into giving
# the right dpi with mergedfb. This bug is probably fixed now, so the
# correct line would be:
#
#  DisplaySize 300 230

Section Monitor
  Identifier   Monitor[0]
  HorizSync30-61
  VertRefresh  56-75
  DisplaySize 600 230
EndSection

Section Device
  BoardNameRV250 If
  BusID1:5:0
  Driver   radeon
  Identifier   Device[0]
  VendorName   ATI
  Option MonitorLayout TMDS,CRT
  Option AGPMode 4
#  Option AGPFastWrite true
#  Option EnablePageFlip true
  Option MergedFB true
  Option CRT2Position RightOf
  Option MetaModes 1024x768-1024x768
EndSection

Section Screen
  DefaultDepth 24
  SubSection Display
Depth  15
Virtual  2048 768
Modes  1024x768 800x600 640x480
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
Depth  16
Virtual  2048 768
Modes  1024x768 800x600 640x480
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
Depth  24
Virtual  2048 768
Modes  1024x768 800x600 640x480
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
Depth  32
Virtual  2048 768
Modes  1024x768 800x600 640x480 
  EndSubSection
  SubSection Display
Depth  8
Modes  1024x768 800x600 640x480
  EndSubSection
  Device   Device[0]
  Identifier   Screen[0]
  Monitor  Monitor[0]
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
  Identifier   Layout[all]
  InputDevice  Keyboard[0] CoreKeyboard
  InputDevice  Mouse[1] CorePointer
  Screen 0 Screen[0] 0 0
EndSection

Section DRI
Group  video
Mode   0660
EndSection



[XFree86] Re: Sapphire Radeon 9000 dual-head problem

2003-10-26 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, William Gallafent wrote:

 As mentioned in the subject I have a Sapphire Radeon 9000
 dual-head video adapter that I'd really like to get working.

I had various problems with dual-head on a Sapphire Radeon 9000
using plain 4.3.0. I advise you to pick up a recent snapshot (or
use current CVS, or current DRI CVS) since there have been many
improvements since 4.3.0 was released.

Dualhead on Radeon is totally broken in 4.3.0 stock due to a bug 
in the radeon driver which didn't get noticed/fixed prior to 
release.  If you use dualhead, when the mouse crosses from one 
head to another, the 2nd head will shutdown.  That bug is fixed 
in the XFree86 4.3 (xf-4_3-branch) stable branch, CVS head, and 
most Linux distribution's 4.3.0 builds.

Another option which is generally useful for dualhead is:

Monitorlayout CRT CRT

Hope this helps.


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Re: [XFree86] 3 heads with S3 drivers

2003-10-26 Thread Kevin Brosius
Rutka Patrick wrote:
 
 
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 Hi,
 
 I have 3 screens : one with NVIDIA drivers, and the 2 others with S3 drivers.
 NVIDIA/NV with one in S3 woks perfectly. Now with the 3 heads activated, I
 have system crashes (linux+xfree : frezzes) randomely(?) or after a few
 minutes (Never craches if I don't use my 2 screen with s3). Sometimes when I
 move from the 2 S3 screens I have parts of my screen 3 are visibles on my
 screen 2. These parts are not random but represents elements (like the blue
 bars of artscontrol) but on the bad screens (like the drivers take the memoty
 of the other driver).
 
 Vesa driver in multi-head doesn't work so I don't could test with it. And with
 the NV driver in 3 Multi-Head do sometimes an error of SHMAT on HIGH
 MEMORY...
 
 I attach my config and the log :
 
 I use Linux (2.6.0-test9) and Xfree 4.3.0 on a Mandrake 9.1


I seem to recall a few reports of trouble with the S3 driver in
multihead.  I suspect it's not fully stable for dual and higher use, but
not absolutely sure.  It's good news it works well with 2 heads.  Sounds
like there is still a problem with 2 S3 cards though.  Hopefully one of
the S3 guys can take a look.

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[XFree86] test test

2003-10-26 Thread Dennis Veatch
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http://counter.li.org

Trying? My contribution was much closer to a feeble wave in the general 
direction of something that might lead you one step closer to a solution 
if you squint really hard and do all of the work.

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Re: [XFree86] 3 heads with S3 drivers

2003-10-26 Thread Rutka Patrick
Yep,

Only crashes when I move the cursor from one S3 screen to second S3 screen. So 
it's a dual use of the same S3 drivers who make problems...

Psy

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Re: [XFree86] Multiple monitors in cyclic layout?

2003-10-26 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On 26 Oct 2003, Greg Stark wrote:

 I have three monitors running now. Two are in 800x600 and one in 1600x1200.
 Ideally I want them configured something like:
 
 /--\/--\
 |  ||  |
 |  ||  |
 \--/|  |
 /--\|  |
 |  ||  |
 |  ||  |
 \--/\--/
 
 
 Making it possible to go from any screen to any other screen.
 
 However the best I seem to be able to do is something like this:
 
 
 /--\
 |  |
 |  |
 \--/
 /  \/--\
 |  ||  |
 |  ||  |
 \--/|  |
 |  |
 |  |
 |  |
 \--/
 
 In which it's impossible to go from the upper 800x600 screen to the main
 1600x1200 screen and vice versa.
 
 with a layout like this:
 
   Screen  Default Screen
   Screen  Second Screen  LeftOf   Default Screen
   Screen  Third Screen Above Second Screen
 
 
 Is it possible to do what I want or does the multi-screen handling only link
 the screens together in one big acyclic chain?

   Please see the Absolute keyword in the XF86Config man page.

  Screen  Third Screen  Absolute  0 0
  Screen  Second Screen Absolute  0 600
  Screen  Default Screen Absolute 800 0

  May do what you want.

Mark.

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[XFree86] Problems while installing redhat 8.0

2003-10-26 Thread channakeshava rayarpi
Dear sir:I got a problem while installing Redhat linux 8.0 to a system with P4-2.4GHz, Mother board : D845GVAD2, After I have installed and restarted the system OS Booted properly but after Local Host login The OS Didn't went to graphic mode It gave An error Message:Error Message:--Fatal server error:no screens foundThe System is letting user to log in and user can run commands in the prompt. But Graphical Interface is not started.System status:Hard Disk partitions:-Primary: 8GB Windows-98Extended: D:-20GB, E:-30GB, F:-10GBLast Left Unpartitioned And Let the RedHat Linux Setup choose the Free space to installI had Installed it for an 80GB Hard disks Last partition, ie around 7000th sectors to 8770th1st partition Boot 101MB2nd Partition / 6900MB3rd Partition Swap 510MBI think The Problem is because the Operating system is older than the Hardware I am
 using, the proper Driver Information may not be available, If so what can I do now. Please Help me to bring the system to Graphical interface.waiting for your replyChannakeshava
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Re: Re: [XFree86] BNC Connections

2003-10-26 Thread Mark Vojkovich
  Being fixed frequency does indeed change things.  You have
to have a suitable modeline or else the monitor won't sync.
That would require you knowing the exact syncing requirements
(horizontal sync rate, especially).  I assume you have the
owner's manual and it lists such frequencies?


Mark.


On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter Fabulous wrote:

 Mark, thanks for trying. I have the monitor switched to BNC and have two
 separate sets of cables. On researching the problem with Nokia, they said
 that they do not support Linux, but thought the problem could be related to
 the Multigraph being a Fixed Frequency Monitor. My understanding of RH8 is
 limited, is this a problem?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:00
 Subject: Re: Re: [XFree86] BNC Connections
 
 
 Your monitor probably has a switch somewhere (maybe in the onscreen
  controls) that switches between D-Sub and BNC.  Other than the cable
  being broken or the monitor not using the BNC inputs, there's really
  not much that could go wrong.
 
 
  Mark.
 
  On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Sorry, and thank you Mark, yes I have a SVGA - BNC cable with 5 BNC
 connectors at the end of it. Got any ideas?
From: Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2003/10/19 Sun PM 03:08:00 EDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [XFree86] BNC Connections
   
   
   
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I have a Nokia MultiGraph 445 Xpro monitor and a Diamond Stealth
 2000 pro video card. I can not ge the card and monitor to work using the BNC
 connectors. Works fine with the D-Sub connectors. Any ideas? I would go to
 Diamond, but since they got bought no one seems to be supplying support for
 their video cards.

   
   Just to be clear... You have *FIVE* BNC connectors (R,G,B,H,V) ?
   
   
Mark.
   
   
  
  
  
 
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Re: Re: [XFree86] BNC Connections

2003-10-26 Thread Peter Fabulous
Mark, thanks for trying. I have the monitor switched to BNC and have two
separate sets of cables. On researching the problem with Nokia, they said
that they do not support Linux, but thought the problem could be related to
the Multigraph being a Fixed Frequency Monitor. My understanding of RH8 is
limited, is this a problem?

- Original Message -
From: Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 12:00
Subject: Re: Re: [XFree86] BNC Connections


Your monitor probably has a switch somewhere (maybe in the onscreen
 controls) that switches between D-Sub and BNC.  Other than the cable
 being broken or the monitor not using the BNC inputs, there's really
 not much that could go wrong.


 Mark.

 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Sorry, and thank you Mark, yes I have a SVGA - BNC cable with 5 BNC
connectors at the end of it. Got any ideas?
   From: Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2003/10/19 Sun PM 03:08:00 EDT
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [XFree86] BNC Connections
  
  
  
   On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I have a Nokia MultiGraph 445 Xpro monitor and a Diamond Stealth
2000 pro video card. I can not ge the card and monitor to work using the BNC
connectors. Works fine with the D-Sub connectors. Any ideas? I would go to
Diamond, but since they got bought no one seems to be supplying support for
their video cards.
   
  
  Just to be clear... You have *FIVE* BNC connectors (R,G,B,H,V) ?
  
  
   Mark.
  
  
 
 
 

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[XFree86] VidModeExtension

2003-10-26 Thread gilson redrick
Hi!

Since the prehistoric days of Mandrake-6.0, I've been using xvidtune. I just 
installed M-9.2 and when I invoked it, I got
Xlib:  extension XFree86-VidModeExtension missing on display :0.0.
  Unable to query video extension version 

I compared the Mandrake install with the RedHat-9 that I also have (where 
xvidtune works perfectly), and nothing seems to be missing. In /usr/sbin 
there is a vidmode link to an executable rdev file.

The xvidtune man page doesn't help at all. What do I have to do to make 
xvidtune usable?

If you can help, please respond directly to gilsonr (at) highstream.net. 
Thanks greatly in advance.

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Regards,
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running Mandrake-9.2/Linux-2.4.22 and RedHat-9/Linux-2.4.20]

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[XFree86] How to Config ECS K7SOM+ 7.5c Mboard w/SiS 740 Chipset

2003-10-26 Thread Asm-C-DrScheme-Math-Electronics



 I just installed SuSE 8.2 w/Athlon optimized 
kernel and found, during install, that my graphics
was not supported. I selected a generic VESA 
install, and it works, but not optimally. I tried
to run xf86config following install, but the 740 
was not listed under the SiS selections 
presented. Does anyone know whether there is 
any support for this chip, or should I
have selected something other that the VESA 
option? Thanks.

Regards,
Jeff Stephens


[XFree86] Multiple monitors in cyclic layout?

2003-10-26 Thread Greg Stark
I have three monitors running now. Two are in 800x600 and one in 1600x1200.
Ideally I want them configured something like:

/--\/--\
|  ||  |
|  ||  |
\--/|  |
/--\|  |
|  ||  |
|  ||  |
\--/\--/


Making it possible to go from any screen to any other screen.

However the best I seem to be able to do is something like this:


/--\
|  |
|  |
\--/
/  \/--\
|  ||  |
|  ||  |
\--/|  |
|  |
|  |
|  |
\--/

In which it's impossible to go from the upper 800x600 screen to the main
1600x1200 screen and vice versa.

with a layout like this:

Screen  Default Screen
Screen  Second Screen  LeftOf   Default Screen
Screen  Third Screen Above Second Screen


Is it possible to do what I want or does the multi-screen handling only link
the screens together in one big acyclic chain?



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greg

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[XFree86] How to terminate X?

2003-10-26 Thread Sandy Cheema
Hi. I am new to Linux and I just installed RedHat 9.0 and I was having trouble starting X. After the system boots, the monitor screen goes blank. I have an AMD Athlon 2200+ based system with ECS motherboard and I just upgraded to nVIDIA GeForce FX 5200. X was starting up fine on my old Graphic Card, GeForce 2 MX 400 but after I upgraded, I decided to do a new install of RedHat. I wish I could send you the XFree86Config file with this email but I don't know how to getfrom with my computer, which is currently not functioning at all.

I do have nVIDIA drivers for Linux but I don't know how to terminate X server to reach the console. I have tried [Ctrl+Alt+Backspace] and [Ctrl+X] but neither of those commands terminate it. Instead, [Ctrl+Alt+Backspace] puts the system in standby.

I believe I have version 4.3.0 of XFree86 but I am not 100% sure.

Any help regarding this matter will be appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
Rash.
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Re: [XFree86] How to terminate X?

2003-10-26 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 07:02:06PM -0800, Sandy Cheema wrote:
I do have nVIDIA drivers for Linux but I don't know how to terminate X
server  to  reach  the console.  I have tried [Ctrl+Alt+Backspace] and
[Ctrl+X]  but  neither  of  those  commands  terminate  it.   Instead,
[Ctrl+Alt+Backspace] puts the system in standby.

Ctrl-Alt-F1 should put you on the text console.  Edit /etc/inittab to
change the initdefault from 5 to 3, reboot, log in as root, and use

startx 2/tmp/xerrors

to test your configuration tweaking.

Cheers,
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Re: [XFree86] alt+gr does not work within X; right alt, that is

2003-10-26 Thread Ph Legay
I have the same kind of probleme with French Macintosh keyboard (on the 
PC I hae no problem).

So the problem is to have
Left Alt + 5 = {
Left Alt + Ctrl + F1 = Switch to virtual text console 1.
I suceed to do this under the text console, but I am searching in order 
to solve my problem with X.

So I give you what I understand.

Your XF86Config file must be read with the rules/xfree86 file.

 Section InputDevice
IdentifierGeneric Keyboard
Driverkeyboard
OptionCoreKeyboard
OptionXkbRulesxfree86
OptionXkbModelpc105
OptionXkbLayoutse
OptionXkbVariantse
EndSection
(In Mandrake, the XkbRules is default, so I have to find the right file).
Then by reading the xfree86 file, you will discover where the pc105 file 
will be.

Then, you have to found the symbol file that links a key to a char.

You can try the xev utility to help the X expert to understand your 
problem.

In this list, some body gives me a good xmodmap solution by reading by 
xev trace. But unfortunatly, I lost the Alt+Ctl+F1 switching.

PHL

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