Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Matthew Reppert wrote: Michel Dänzer wrote: On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 07:54, Matthew Reppert wrote: Now, let me say one thing; I've run two different kernels on this system: 2.4.10 and 2.4.12. Note #1: my /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm were NOT FHS compliant ... because I'd copied the data into those directories. Note #2: I did this back when I was running 2.4.10. Well, today I noticed this, kicked myself in the arse a few times, and made the proper symlinks ... recompiled just now and X seems to work fine. Heck, Quake 3 runs nice ... ^^; From FHS 2.3: 6.1.7 /usr/include : Header files included by C programs These symbolic links are required if a C or C++ compiler is installed and only for systems not based on glibc. /usr/include/asm - /usr/src/linux/include/asm-arch /usr/include/linux - /usr/src/linux/include/linux So your system isn't based on glibc? I think you've found out the hard way why these really shouldn't be symlinks. ... you know, that's a good point. I *am* glibc-based, 2.2.x. Interesting; well, it may have had to do with some of the stuff I defined in host.def, though I can't really see what it would be ... No, I think the problem was clearly the kernel headers. I'll look into it when I have more time (sometime later this week). Still suspect the headers. And why not symlinks? Because as you have found out, you're in trouble if they are wrong (your copy of the kernel headers from an older version was no different than wrong symlinks). This has been discussed extensively on l-k. Look at the Debian glibc packages for a solution that works. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 07:54, Matthew Reppert wrote: Now, let me say one thing; I've run two different kernels on this system: 2.4.10 and 2.4.12. Note #1: my /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm were NOT FHS compliant ... because I'd copied the data into those directories. Note #2: I did this back when I was running 2.4.10. Well, today I noticed this, kicked myself in the arse a few times, and made the proper symlinks ... recompiled just now and X seems to work fine. Heck, Quake 3 runs nice ... ^^; From FHS 2.3: 6.1.7 /usr/include : Header files included by C programs These symbolic links are required if a C or C++ compiler is installed and only for systems not based on glibc. /usr/include/asm - /usr/src/linux/include/asm-arch /usr/include/linux - /usr/src/linux/include/linux So your system isn't based on glibc? I think you've found out the hard way why these really shouldn't be symlinks. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Michel Dänzer wrote: On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 07:54, Matthew Reppert wrote: Now, let me say one thing; I've run two different kernels on this system: 2.4.10 and 2.4.12. Note #1: my /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm were NOT FHS compliant ... because I'd copied the data into those directories. Note #2: I did this back when I was running 2.4.10. Well, today I noticed this, kicked myself in the arse a few times, and made the proper symlinks ... recompiled just now and X seems to work fine. Heck, Quake 3 runs nice ... ^^; From FHS 2.3: 6.1.7 /usr/include : Header files included by C programs These symbolic links are required if a C or C++ compiler is installed and only for systems not based on glibc. /usr/include/asm - /usr/src/linux/include/asm-arch /usr/include/linux - /usr/src/linux/include/linux So your system isn't based on glibc? I think you've found out the hard way why these really shouldn't be symlinks. ... you know, that's a good point. I *am* glibc-based, 2.2.x. Interesting; well, it may have had to do with some of the stuff I defined in host.def, though I can't really see what it would be ... I'll look into it when I have more time (sometime later this week). Still suspect the headers. And why not symlinks? Matt ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Matthew Reppert wrote: Hi, I have an AIW Radeon :) The general concensus on getting TV in/out to work for this card is that you HAVE to recompile a few things from source, one of which being X. Well, the build goes along fine, but the binaries that it makes segfault as soon as it starts loading modules. In fact, the last thing in my X log is Loading module 'bitmap'. If I just run X, I'll see Segmentation fault. on the terminal I'm on, and get booted back to bash ... I'm on kernel 2.4.12, gcc 2.95.3, GNU binutils 2.11.2 ... any ideas? Here's a copy of my host.def included as well. This is (currently) the major roadblock to getting the most out of my graphics card, and I'd like to get it to work. Very much ^^; Thanks, Matt You don't need a host.def if you haven't changed anything... Sounds like a build problem. How did you get your sources? What setup did you do? Did you do a 'make World World.log' and then a 'make install' (as root) from the 'xc' directory? (Are there any failures in the 'make World'? search for '***' in your World.log.) -- Kevin ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Munir Nassar wrote: What compiler are you using? i am not aware of any certain compiler quirks but it is possible, gcc 2.95.3. (yanked from a make World log) Building on Linux 2.4.12 i686 [ELF] (2.4.12). Linux Distribution: Unknown libc version: 6.2.4 binutils version: 3.1 GCC version: 2.95 try a $make World World.log and check World.log for any interesting compiler warnings... Interesting? Um ... lessee. Variables possibly being used uninitialized, a few symbols declared 'static' but undefined in ttobjs.h (prolly won't hurt too much, eh?), a whole bunch of void * pointers used in arithmetic ... 6335 warnings without the void pointers, 75k void pointer warnings. Nothing here looks too bad ... the compiler never dies or anything dramatic like that. Any ideas on more specifically where to look, given that X always crashes in exactly the same place (loading module 'bitmap')? http://128.101.183.76:8080/xlogs/ Matt ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Kevin Brosius wrote: Matthew Reppert wrote: Hi, I have an AIW Radeon :) The general concensus on getting TV in/out to work for this card is that you HAVE to recompile a few things from source, one of which being X. Well, the build goes along fine, but the binaries that it makes segfault as soon as it starts loading modules. In fact, the last thing in my X log is Loading module 'bitmap'. If I just run X, I'll see Segmentation fault. on the terminal I'm on, and get booted back to bash ... I'm on kernel 2.4.12, gcc 2.95.3, GNU binutils 2.11.2 ... any ideas? Here's a copy of my host.def included as well. This is (currently) the major roadblock to getting the most out of my graphics card, and I'd like to get it to work. Very much ^^; You don't need a host.def if you haven't changed anything... Sounds like a build problem. That's what I've been thinking ... How did you get your sources? What setup did you do? Did you do a 'make World World.log' and then a 'make install' (as root) from the 'xc' directory? My sources were downloaded from this path: ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.1.0/source/ For setup, I've alternately tried just doing a 'make World', and putting definitions into site.def or host.def (what I posted earlier) and making World. Yes, from the xc directory, yes, as root. (Are there any failures in the 'make World'? search for '***' in your World.log.) Nothing ... it makes the binaries just fine, they're just broken ^^; Matt ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
On Sun, 2001-10-21 at 21:20, Matthew Reppert wrote: Any ideas on more specifically where to look, given that X always crashes in exactly the same place (loading module 'bitmap')? What about posting the relevant parts of the X server log? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Michel Dänzer wrote: On Sun, 2001-10-21 at 21:20, Matthew Reppert wrote: What about posting the relevant parts of the X server log? Okay, this is the entire contents of XFree86.0.log. START == XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: 2 June 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.12 i686 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sun Oct 21 14:48:09 2001 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout Simple Layout (**) |--Screen Screen 1 (0) (**) | |--Monitor NEC 4FG' (**) | |--Device ATI All-in-Wonder Pro' (**) |--Input Device Mouse1 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard1 (**) Option AutoRepeat 500 30 (**) Option XkbDisable (**) XKB: disabled (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (--) using VT number 7 (WW) Cannot open APM (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: bitmap END This is the output from the X server, just for fun ... START == XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: 2 June 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.12 i686 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sun Oct 21 14:48:09 2001 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout Simple Layout (**) |--Screen Screen 1 (0) (**) | |--Monitor NEC 4FG' (**) | |--Device ATI All-in-Wonder Pro' (**) |--Input Device Mouse1 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard1 (**) XKB: disabled (WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype/ does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (**) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (--) using VT number 7 Segmentation fault END Matt ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Matthew Reppert wrote: Any ideas on more specifically where to look, given that X always crashes in exactly the same place (loading module 'bitmap')? http://128.101.183.76:8080/xlogs/ Matt What does your /etc/X11/XF86Config look like? Would you add it to this directory? Maybe you've found something that crashes the config file parser. -- Kevin ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Kevin Brosius wrote: Matthew Reppert wrote: Any ideas on more specifically where to look, given that X always crashes in exactly the same place (loading module 'bitmap')? http://128.101.183.76:8080/xlogs/ Matt What does your /etc/X11/XF86Config look like? Would you add it to this directory? Maybe you've found something that crashes the config file parser. Added. Matt ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Matthew Reppert wrote: Kevin Brosius wrote: Matthew Reppert wrote: Hi, I have an AIW Radeon :) The general concensus on getting TV in/out to work for this card is that you HAVE to recompile a few things from source, one of which being X. Well, the build goes along fine, but the binaries that it makes segfault as soon as it starts loading modules. In fact, the last thing in my X log is Loading module 'bitmap'. If I just run X, I'll see Segmentation fault. on the terminal I'm on, and get booted back to bash ... I'm on kernel 2.4.12, gcc 2.95.3, GNU binutils 2.11.2 ... any ideas? Here's a copy of my host.def included as well. This is (currently) the major roadblock to getting the most out of my graphics card, and I'd like to get it to work. Very much ^^; Hmm, another thought. What the heck is 'binutils 2.11.2'? I don't see any mention of it on ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/devel/binutils/, which is hjl's distro location as far as I can tell. Plus it looks like 2.11 is still beta... Also, your log indicates the compile didn't detect the version, or maybe detected it incorrectly: Building on Linux 2.4.12 i686 [ELF] (2.4.12). Linux Distribution: Unknown libc version: 6.2.4 binutils version: 3.1 (Unless 3.1 really is the reporting version for binutils 2.11.x) Maybe you should try the build with an older stable version of binutils. You may also be able to add the binutils version to host.def to force it to think it has a sane version (which may or may not actually improve things.): ie: #define LinuxBinUtilsMajorVersion 26 (Read all about it in xf86site.def.) -- Kevin ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Kevin Brosius wrote: Are there modules in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules? And does the bitmap module exist there? (It's normally down a level, fonts/libbitmap.a.) Yes, it's there. Okay ... this is GNU binutils. Since I've seen people have been compiling with gcc under linux, I didn't think twice about my GNU binutils, but I'm using the most recent release of them, 2.11.2. Think that's the problem? (I should've made that clearer, prolly ... ) Matt ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 00:13, Matthew Reppert wrote: Okay ... this is GNU binutils. Since I've seen people have been compiling with gcc under linux, I didn't think twice about my GNU binutils, but I'm using the most recent release of them, 2.11.2. Think that's the problem? (I should've made that clearer, prolly ... ) Debian is using 2.11.92 on all architectures, and X works. So unless the version you use was particularly bad, I doubt this is the problem. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries
Matthew Reppert wrote: Kevin Brosius wrote: Are there modules in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules? And does the bitmap module exist there? (It's normally down a level, fonts/libbitmap.a.) Yes, it's there. Okay ... this is GNU binutils. Since I've seen people have been compiling with gcc under linux, I didn't think twice about my GNU binutils, but I'm using the most recent release of them, 2.11.2. Think that's the problem? (I should've made that clearer, prolly ... ) Matt Might be... If you built your own ld, did you use the same binutils? Or maybe it's an incompatibilty between those binutils and the XFree86 module loader (which seems likely since you can't load modules.) You could build a static server (no external modules), although that's just a workaround if you want to find out what's wrong. binutils 2.10.0.33-13 works here (that's a SuSE Linux version). And gcc 2.95.3 is considered stable, so I wouldn't worry about that. -- Kevin ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
