Re: [ydn-delicious] Re: Greetings
[This is OT - for which I apologize - but...] They should randomize and change passwords for you automatically. This would be helpful, security-wise, and make the app. quite sticky I would think. Do they?... Does any other such service?... Thanks, Matthew On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Fredrik Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're using a Mac I'd recommend 1Password to manage your usernames and passwords, rather than delicious. http://agilewebsolutions.com/products/1Password/ There's also a web service that allows you to access your passwords from any computer, and sign in with these. https://my.1password.com/ - Fredrik [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [ydn-delicious] Is there a way to add PDFs to del.icio.us?
I think you can go in and edit the URL ex post to achieve what you want (although I haven't tried it recently). Matthew On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:43 AM, bruins1961 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK... in my browser, I visit a website and click a link that brings up a PDF file. When I right-click, there is no Tag this page option. I've loked thru the menus and can't find anything. The Tag This icon in my Firefox navigation toolbar does nothing when I click it. Thanx!! .jim. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [ydn-delicious] Re: will you ppl continue to use del.icio.us if microsoft will buy yahoo? (--eom
FYI - Potentially interesting reading / place to post on this topic: - http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/flickr-users-consider-their-potential-microsoft-overlords/ - http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/bits-debate:-copyright/ Matthew On Feb 3, 2008 1:12 AM, Matthew Weymar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 3, 2008 12:08 AM, Ognjen Strpic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will you ppl continue to use del.icio.us if microsoft will buy yahoo? ... a less depressing thought: I wonder how much would it cost for the community of users and developers to buy the bloody thing from whoever currently owns it. Y! owns it - as far as the public knows anyway - or does someone know otherwise? Re $ - I think the number that went around when Joshua sold was $25mm. No idea about the accuracy of that. Presumably it's worth more now(?...) To my surprise, I realized I've become somewhat emotionally involved in del.icio.us, and that the attachment apparently grows with extended use. I'm far more frustrated now than I was when Yahoo bought it, But if you're in copious company in this frustration, maybe it's worth * less*(?...) This seems unlikely. Cf. Clay Shirky's claim that what distinguishes Y! from its rivals (read: GOOG) is Y!'s appreciation of social software: http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/01/solutions-msft-shirky-oped-cx_csh_0201shirky.html One might well ask, Well, where has *that* gotten them?!... but he may be right. Still, the cases in point are Flickr del.icio.us - two * acquisitions*. (To be fair, he also mentions Y! Groups, an in-house development.) In any case, I think it's still fair to ask what Y! is really good at on its own - other than being able to recognize (unprofitable) social software co's. and although outlandish, the idea of co-ownership of del.icio.us/ognjen sounds quite comforting. Have you seen https://secure.del.icio.us/settings/ognjen/bookmarks/license ? del.icio.us does not own your bookmarks -- you do! Question: Might that give us all, collectively, some rights over the platform that is del.icio.us?... Over its maintenance? Its alteration? Its continued operation?... Its sale perhaps???... Is anyone aware of any legal precedent that is relevant to answering this question? *Someone's* got to be working on this. At its core, one basis for the argument might be: *Not* having any rights over del.icio.us (again, whatever *that *means) would render our respective ownership rights over our bookmarks meaningless. (There must be a proper legal phrasing of this concept[?...]) We generally don't do that to property rights - even intellectual property rights I guess the counter-argument would be: Well, all we really mean by that is that Y! can't sell your bookmarks, say. I.e., you may have a negative right to prevent others from positive action with respect to your bookmarks; but you may not have a positive right to do anything in particular with your bookmarks yourself But presumably Y! can sell advertising on pages that display your bookmarks(?... Another issue.) Interesting stuff Thanks for the post, Ognjen. Matthew Young master Joshua, Lady Britta, lead the way! Ognjen PS Yes, I am aware I'm daydreaming. I wanted to share this one, though. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[ydn-delicious] my items not appearing among all items - even after 6 days
Compare the following: - http://del.icio.us/userX/finding%2Bdawn - http://del.icio.us/tag/finding%2Bdawn Isn't it weird that items I posted 6 days ago still aren't appearing among all items?... Matthew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [ydn-delicious] Display a tag from two or more users?
Here you go: http://www.google.com/reader/shared/user/02823459771300978307/label/gtrembl Here's the how-to: http://blog.unto.net/miscellaneous/aggregated-blog-and-news-feeds/ (It's easy.) Enjoy, Matthew On 9/3/07, gtrembl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am wondering if there is an easy way to display a tag common to two or more users. For example, I want to list all the posts tagged 'music' by users 'trembl' and 'test'. I would assume something like the following: http://del.icio.us/trembl/music + http://del.icio.us/test/music = http://del.icio.us/trembl+test/music (But of course I does not work like that...) Any ideas? all the best, georg [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [ydn-delicious] to much bookmark kill del.icio.us ?
Kind of a lame comment coming here, but ... I seem to recall some discussion re limiting display of tags by occurrence -- i.e., only displaying Top X tags and / or tags that occur more than X times. I cannot remember, however, whether this was a feature request, or an existing feature. Per le monsieur's problème, it'd be a good idea (if it doesn't already exist). Matthew On 8/23/07, bussiere maillist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is too much tag on the rigth that's what slow everything by the way thanks for the advice On 8/23/07, Toby Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]telliott%40yahoo-inc.com wrote: On Aug 23, 2007, at 5:24 AM, bussiere maillist wrote: Well this is my page : http://del.icio.us/bussiere and i have more than 3000 bookmark the problem is that when the page is loading sometimes it crash my browser or it is very slow so i can't give my page to a lot of people with this problem. Does anyone have a solution ? It comes up for me in a couple of seconds, so it's likely to be the rendering time and the javascript. Fastest way to speed up your page load is to go down to 10 bookmarks per page. Try that and see if it loads substantially faster. Regards, Toby Elliott del.icio.us [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [ydn-delicious] Re: viewing private bookmarks
On 8/2/07, cannedbrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, tomflemming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you view all your own bookmarks that have been set to private, eg. to not be shared? Is there a url for that or a tag? I'd love to see this feature too. Up to now, the only way is to use an RSS reader to subscribe to my public bookmarks feed. What's annoying is bookmarks that's converted into private would still show up in my feed. I think they should be deleted once they're set to private. I realize that this is quite OT, but since IMHO it's kind of a big deal... I have had the same problem w/ Flickr: Photos that were permissioned for everyone, but then only for friends family have remained viewable via the API. It's quite shocking to see photos that are permissioned only for FF appear on sites that pull photos via the API - like claimid.com. I guess there's just a delay in repermissioning these(?... Maybe you could address this, guys?...) Do you Y! types fraternize with your Flickr cousins at all?... This seems to be an issue you share - and could perhaps collaborate on a solution to???... Thanks, Matthew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [ydn-delicious] mobile del.icio.us -- and long load times
Wow, Iván! Who knew about that!?... That saves a lot of time on the load -- and if I ever want to go back to 1 for some reason, I can, on an as needed basis. Excellent! I definitely don't follow this list religiously, but I wonder whether this - and other similarly beneficial features? - may be escaping the notice of others as well?... Thanks. This is a big help. Matthew On 5/30/07, Iván Santiesteban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you select the option use minumun: 5 to only display tags you have used in at least five instances? Having so many tags is probably what's causing such a slow load time. You could also try trimming your tags, but I know that would be a lot of work. Iván On 5/30/07, Matthew Weymar [EMAIL PROTECTED]matthew.weymar%40gmail.com wrote: I second interest in this ... with the caveat that I have enough trouble accessing del on my (reasonably powerful) ThinkPad T60p. To wit, my page - http://del.icio.us/userX - takes a whopping 83.891s to load acc. to Fasterfox's Page Load Timer -- IMHO, a long time! As a result, I almost never use Del.icio.us, the website, preferring instead Del.icio.us, the extension. Unfortunately, the extension restricts my access to certain social networking aspects of del.icio.us - e.g., Saved by X other people... But then again, this returns me to one of my old pet peeves: Joshua's (at least past) insistence that Del.icio.us is intended as a mnemonic tool only, as opposed to a social networking service. In any case, my point is that I am not sure that facilitating mobile access to del.icio.us should be as high a priority as facilitating easier straight web access. Thanks, Matthew On 5/30/07, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] jeffisageek%40gmail.comjeffisageek% 40gmail.com wrote: Joshua I was wondering if there is anything in the works for an official mobile del.icio.us? Where I can check others links? add to my del.icio.us? check my network? stuff like that? I would love to have something like that. Thanks Jeff -- mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jeffisageek%40gmail.com jeffisageek% 40gmail.com jeffisageek% 40gmail.com | web: http://www.jeffisageek.net IM: jeffisageek (yahoo) | IM: jeffisageek (MSN) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[ydn-delicious] mobile del.icio.us -- and long load times
I second interest in this ... with the caveat that I have enough trouble accessing del on my (reasonably powerful) ThinkPad T60p. To wit, my page - http://del.icio.us/userX - takes a whopping 83.891s to load acc. to Fasterfox's Page Load Timer -- IMHO, a long time! As a result, I almost never use Del.icio.us, the website, preferring instead Del.icio.us, the extension. Unfortunately, the extension restricts my access to certain social networking aspects of del.icio.us - e.g., Saved by X other people... But then again, this returns me to one of my old pet peeves: Joshua's (at least past) insistence that Del.icio.us is intended as a mnemonic tool only, as opposed to a social networking service. In any case, my point is that I am not sure that facilitating mobile access to del.icio.us should be as high a priority as facilitating easier straight web access. Thanks, Matthew On 5/30/07, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua I was wondering if there is anything in the works for an official mobile del.icio.us? Where I can check others links? add to my del.icio.us? check my network? stuff like that? I would love to have something like that. Thanks Jeff -- mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jeffisageek%40gmail.com | web: http://www.jeffisageek.net IM: jeffisageek (yahoo) | IM: jeffisageek (MSN) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [ydn-delicious] Re: handling of bookmarklets
I assume the idea is a wiki(???...) Hard (for me, at least) to evaluate without knowing what this real forum would be. In any case, *anything* that makes it easier to reply inline from Gmail would be most welcome(!) Unbelievable how much of a PITA this is now On 12/15/06, Joe Mezzanini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so do I On 12/15/06, John Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] john%40wjsullivan.net wrote: nick.nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick%40yahoo-inc.com writes: Communication with users is extremely important to us, and one of the things we're working on right now is to create a real forum for discussing del.icio.us, which is more collaborative and doesn't require a separate login. It should be easier to track and comprehend than a mailing list and our goal is to improve communication and collaboration far beyond what we have today. A mailing list is hard to track and comprehend? FWIW, I prefer the mailing list form. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [ydn-delicious] Re: handling of bookmarklets
As long as people can subscribe via e-mail - and RSS, I guess - I don't see why people would object to this -- but I suppose there must be reasons! wry smile On 12/15/06, Joshua Schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, probably just a plain old forum. We drown in email over here. It'd be very useful to be able to pin threads and dbe able to direct people to a conversation and all that forum stuff... -Original Message- From: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Weymar Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:56 AM To: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ydn-delicious] Re: handling of bookmarklets I assume the idea is a wiki(???...) Hard (for me, at least) to evaluate without knowing what this real forum would be. In any case, *anything* that makes it easier to reply inline from Gmail would be most welcome(!) Unbelievable how much of a PITA this is now On 12/15/06, Joe Mezzanini [EMAIL PROTECTED] joe%40themezz.com wrote: so do I On 12/15/06, John Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]john%40wjsullivan.net john%40wjsullivan.net wrote: nick.nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick%40yahoo-inc.comnick%40yahoo- inc.com writes: Communication with users is extremely important to us, and one of the things we're working on right now is to create a real forum for discussing del.icio.us, which is more collaborative and doesn't require a separate login. It should be easier to track and comprehend than a mailing list and our goal is to improve communication and collaboration far beyond what we have today. A mailing list is hard to track and comprehend? FWIW, I prefer the mailing list form. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [ydn-delicious] Where's my bookmarks?
Ctrl+B + typing a space into the Search bar brings mine up below - in alpha-numeric order (rather than http://del.icio.us reverse post order). HTH, Matthew On 11/4/06, Michael Feher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't get an answer to this last time, so I'm asking again. What happened to my bookmarks appearing in the little tag/bookmark window in the left pane? Do I just have too many for delicious to handle? They were showing up at first but now, nothing. Thanks, Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ydn-delicious] Re: How do you find multiple tags?
In the meantime, you can always browse to http://del.icio.us/userID/tag1+tag2 - or http://del.icio.us/tag/tag1+tag2. Apologies if this is old news to you, but it wasn't clear to me from your message that you were aware of this. Matthew On 10/31/06, nick.nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy to hear you got it running. Searching for tag combinations is high on our lists of things to do. Stay tuned. Nick --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com, MagnoliaSouth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After much frustration, I managed to get this installed and running. Yay! I'm not very pleased that it renders some of my extensions useless, so we'll see how this goes. I still prefer tagging over folders, so it might be worth it in the long run, but we'll see. Anyway, on to my question. Part of the glory of tagging, is so that you can search for messages having multiple tags. However this doesn't apparently work in the Bookmark search interface. Is there something else I need to know? I tried: tag1 tag2 tag1 AND tag2 tag1, tag2 All to no avail. Please, PLEASE tell me there is a way to do this. It is a key in helping me narrow my way down to my bookmark. See, I have a lot of Bookmarks, but it is essential to keep them all for my writing. Anyone? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] finding tag intersections [new extension]
Ctrl+B for Bookmarks Search box: Tag1 Tag2 This does not return items tagged Tag1 and Tag2, as I, at least, had expected. Is browsing to del.icio.us/userID/Tag1+Tag2 the only way to bring up tag intersections???... This would be counter-intuitive - again: to me at least. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] finding tag intersections [new extension]
Ctrl+B for Bookmarks Search box: Tag1 Tag2 This does not return items tagged both Tag1 and Tag2, as I, at least, had expected. Is browsing to del.icio.us/userID/Tag1+Tag2 the only way to bring up tag intersections???... This would be counter-intuitive - again: to me, at least. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ydn-delicious] Re: sharing all / privatizing all
Not on every post, etc., but perhaps in certain, discrete contexts, e.g., mass imports - which was, I believe, the case in question. On 10/23/06, Joshua Schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We current do that on registration. You want us to have that on every post too? How about the API, etc? The problem is deeper than you think, unfortunately. _ From: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of somercamb Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:23 AM To: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [ydn-delicious] Re: sharing all / privatizing all if that is the answer, then why not create an anti-spam keyword feature where you're forced to enter a word shown in a graphic, like so many websites and bloggers do already --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com mailto:ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com , smileandnodmonkey jm- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The answer I keep seeing (and I've asked for this, too) is that it would encourage spammers to import lots of bookmarks and make them public in one easy step. Personally, I think if the spammers are preventing the users from getting features they need, then the spammers have already won. But I wish we could at LEAST have the ability to SEE all of our private links at once, like with a system:private tag or something. --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com mailto:ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com , somercamb somercamb@ wrote: Is there a way to simultaneously change all bookmarks to private or shared, rather than one by one? I essentially want to share all of them except for a few, so I would SHARE all of them and then go back to the select few and make them private. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] [EMAIL PROTECTED] article: Losing Their Cool: The Downside of Expanding Hot Social Networking Sites
Some people here might find this [EMAIL PROTECTED] article interesting: Managing Technology Losing Their Cool: The Downside of Expanding Hot Social Networking Sites http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/1555.cfm Facebook, a social networking site known as an online meeting place for college and high school students, is opening its doors to more people in an effort to grow beyond its current nine million registered users. Could such a move end up blurring the company's focus and diluting its brand? Are there better ways to expand? http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/1555.cfm It doesn't drill very deep, but it does touch on some of the basic issues. Matthew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ydn-delicious] invitations
I'm curious why del doesn't have - unless I've missed it - an invitation system (such as Flickr has)?... I met someone this morning, and happened to mention a link I saved recently, and she expressed interest in it. The easiest thing for me would be to tag it for:[EMAIL PROTECTED], e.g Matthew [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-delicious/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
re: [ydn-delicious] problem renaming tags
For the record: This is scary. I'd be hard-pressed to try renaming any tags given all the confusion there's been with this. I just mention this to suggest that fixing this ought to be a fairly high priority. Good luck, Matthew Original Message From: Larson, Timothy E. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:22 AM To: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ydn-delicious] problem renaming tags I just renamed browsers to browser and it only partially worked. I had 5 links tagged browsers according to the list. After the rename, I had 3 browser and 2 still as browsers. Renaming browsers-browser again on the remaining two worked. Then renaming fonts to font didn't take on the first try. On the second try it did. Tim -- Tim Larson West Corporation, Interactive TeleServices Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Developer network Computer security Computer training YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "ydn-delicious" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[ydn-delicious] integration w/ Toronto Star
Just noticed this -- and like it, I think.(Here, e.g.: http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1c=Articlecid=1145657412641call_pageid=968256289824col=968342212737)More of this out there already, I assume?... More to come?... Anyone care to speculate on the effect this will have on del?...One obvious issue: The user base is bound to evolve away from techy types, and toward more general interests.I'm not sure how I am going to feel about this myself Matthew YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "ydn-delicious" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[delicious-discuss] Re: How to Create Multi-word Tags?
On 4/2/06, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 01, 2006 at 06:26:09AM -0500, Matthew Weymar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 178 lines which said: Singulars and plurals are another example here. Is it still the case that things tagged zxoicu will not show under http://del.icio.us/tag/zxoicus?.This is an unsolvable problem. Hint: not everyone on earth speaks english. Example: the plural of pizza in italian is pizze.Oui, oui. Je sais, mais ... notwithstanding your point - and Daniel's excellent example (re the brown hairy sick nurse) which proves your point - I'm asking a practical question, not trying to make a theoretical point. To wit, del. doesn't display (*even* English language!) singulars under plurals, does it?... Flickr, by contrast, does. Again: I suspect del. will end up following Flickr in this direction -- though I wouldn't expect any of the del. folk to volunteer their intentions here - or would I be mistaken in this expectation???... Matthew ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] where are all my tags (on the posting page)?...
Apologies if this has been covered here, but... I notice that the posting page is no longer showing all of my tags. I miss seeing all of my tags on this page A LOT! Also, it seems strange to me, frankly, as it smacks of the kind of tag suggestion Joshua has objected so vehemently to in the past. I now find myself having to bring up my del. page to get a view of all of my tags so that I can make sure I'm including all of the tags I want for a given post - or spelling them as I've spelled them in the past, e.g. - all of which seems kind of silly. Again: This is fixable via Greasemonkey - and if I have to, I will - but ... I'd rather not have to. Tks, Matthew ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] where are all my tags (on the posting page)?...
I mean only some. Sorry for the confusion. I liked seeing *ALL* my tags on this page. Tks, Matthew Original Message From: Joshua Schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [delicious-discuss] where are all my tags (on the posting page)?... What do you mean by not showing all of your tags? Do you mean, only some, or none? Joshua Matthew Weymar wrote: Apologies if this has been covered here, but... I notice that the posting page is no longer showing all of my tags. I miss seeing all of my tags on this page A LOT! Also, it seems strange to me, frankly, as it smacks of the kind of tag suggestion Joshua has objected so vehemently to in the past. I now find myself having to bring up my del. page to get a view of all of my tags so that I can make sure I'm including all of the tags I want for a given post - or spelling them as I've spelled them in the past, e.g. - all of which seems kind of silly. Again: This is fixable via Greasemonkey - and if I have to, I will - but ... I'd rather not have to. Tks, Matthew ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] where are all my tags (on the posting page)?...
Well, as you can probably imagine: I, for one, would very much appreciate a
remembered Show All button.
Tks,
Matthew
Original Message
From: Joshua Schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:22 AM
To: Joshua Schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [delicious-discuss] where are all my tags (on the posting
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Er, sorry. Too early in the morning. It currently shows the 500
most-used tags. Perhaps we should have a show all button that gets
remembered? Or maybe just respect the use minimum setting from the
normal page?
Joshua
Joshua Schachter wrote:
Ah -- it shows 500 of the most-used tags, and a show all button that
gets remembered.
Joshua
Matthew Weymar wrote:
I mean only some. Sorry for the confusion.
I liked seeing *ALL* my tags on this page.
Tks,
Matthew
Original Message
From: Joshua Schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What do you mean by not showing all of your tags? Do you mean, only
some, or none?
Joshua
Matthew Weymar wrote:
Apologies if this has been covered here, but...
I notice that the posting page is no longer showing all of my tags.
I miss seeing all of my tags on this page A LOT!
Also, it seems strange to me, frankly, as it smacks of the kind of tag
suggestion Joshua has objected so vehemently to in the past.
I now find myself having to bring up my del. page to get a view of all
of my tags so that I can make sure I'm including all of the tags I want
for a given post - or spelling them as I've spelled them in the past,
e.g. - all of which seems kind of silly.
Again: This is fixable via Greasemonkey - and if I have to, I will - but
... I'd rather not have to.
Tks,
Matthew
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Re: [delicious-discuss] new features
Joshua once wrote - admittedly in a bit of a different context (viz. in explaining that the /post url allows only a title and url ... [in order] to prevent XSS hacks, i.e., lest publishers use the feature to suggest tags): Tags are a memory aid, decided upon by the person doing the remembering. If some other person with intentions other than recall choses the tags, then they are indeed improperly chosen. If tags are memory aids - and memory aids only - why bother displaying *all* of the tags from each user?... The Common tags ought to be good enough to get the mnemonic juices flowing.There's _javascript_ overhead, too, which may be a significant concern if you're thinking about pushing this out to zillions of Yahoos! (who may not have the horsepower to display JS-intensive pages readily.) From my perspective, tags are memory aids, and a whole lot more! as they say.I don't want to get into all of this again here and now. I just thought this context might help put this change into some perspective. MatthewPS - Last thought: There's probably a Greasemonkey solution to this problem, eh?... Or not?... Could you not reconstruct the old page using GM?...On 3/10/06, Philip King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The URL view is suddenly more complicated and less useful. Why onearth stop showing people's tags? That was the best feature! ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Spam on Del.icio.us?
I wonder whether dealing with this stuff includes, e.g., cooperating w/ the likes of Merrick Furst at Georgia Tech[1], who leads a team that studies botnets; or law enforcement agencies, who presumably also study this sort of thing; or other areas of Y! who face the same issue Is there, btw, an Anti-Spam Team at Y!?... One would think something like this would make sense. I'm just thinking that you could automate communication betw. del. and other interested parties, and that part of this communication could be *inbound*, alerting del. and/or Y! to bad IP addresses, etc Matthew[1] http://www.cc.gatech.edu/index.php?searchword=merrick+furstoption=com_searchItemid=searchphrase=all On 2/12/06, joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a bunch of heuristics to deal with this stuff. Looks like weneed a few more.Thanks for pointing this out.JoshuaOn Feb 12, 2006, at 1:09 PM, Greg Ritter wrote: Wow, I'm sure this has happened before, but this is the first time I've noticed spam on the del.icio.us/popular page. This afternoon there is a series of 20+ links all with the title of [Celebrity name] in Relationships, all posted initially by the same account, all also posted by the same dozen other accounts, and all of the links point to a machine-generated crap page on the same website (which is selling some relationship analysis bullshit). The 20+ links are all for celebrity pages that have first names starting with A, and it looks like the original cockroach (username: shlomot) has loaded del.icio.us up with almost 300 of these spam links tied to celebrity names (although his other fake accounts don't seem to have linked all 300 yet). How common is this problem? How is it dealt with? --greg ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss--joshua schachter[EMAIL PROTECTED]___discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.ushttp://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] A tag that combines descriptors?
On 12/22/05, Chris Lott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/22/05, Mike Nowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tag intersections already do this, in a way. If you tag something science fiction, and you want to find something marked science and fiction, then you just look at http://del.icio.us/tag/science+fiction As far as I'm concerned, this makes it more accurate since it'll not only show up as science+fiction but science and fiction too, which is a small but useful difference.This is much more true of some compounds (like science fiction) than others, like white house or pop art -- but I don't see the problemwith running such things together if desired?Actually, I just looked at http://del.icio.us/tag/click+fraud for the first time this morning, found nothing, and so checked /clickfraud, where I found a bunch of stuff.Long term, I expect *some* solution to the problem of having to look at both /science+fiction and /sciencefiction in order to check what is essentially one thing. A bigger problem - as oft discussed here - JohnKerry, John_Kerry, John.Kerry, John+Kerry, vs. even John-Kerry, I guess - worse yet (in so many ways!) GeorgeBush, GeorgeWBush, George_Bush, George_W_Bush, etc., etc., etcNot easy to solve this, I don't think. Cf. all of the arguments *against* doing this sort of thing, and the UI issues - do you just do it? or do you let users control it?... Hence, long term. But doesn't del's fraternal twin - if I'm remembering the _expression_ correctly - already do this sort of thing? If so, I'd think del would follow suit in short order In fact, I see that they're doing the cluster thing over there. I won't bother trying to paraphrase how this works - particularly since I haven't looked into it - but suffice it to say that john kerry brings up photos tagged johnkerry Aside: Interesting to wonder whether the user bases of Flicker and del are different enough that the optimal UI for each community might be different. I.e., perhaps better to just do it [viz. return things tagged in a variety of ways] when those things are photos, and to give users more control when those things are URLs - since members of these communities may be quite different [not because the things are different per se]. I would expect that this would be a short-term issue - that would disapper as del's user base expands - but it might lead to some growing pains, at least for some users. Matthew ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] argh
On 12/14/05, joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, it looks like a number of slave servers were corrupted. we'rerebuilding them now. i've taken the site down so that this goes asfast as possible.Y! knoweth no wrath like the wrath of the Google gods! ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] posting - URL construction
On 12/2/05, joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This begs a distinction between proper and improper tagging.Tags are a memory aid, decided upon by the person doing the remembering. If some other person with intentions other than recallchoses the tags, then they are indeed improperly chosen. If tags were *only* memory aids, I don't think there'd be any reason not to make all posts private, right?... Tags also aid both communication / sharing, and search as well. To wit, I may have a convention, together with some friends, to tag things of common interest MIT econ XXX, say, where XXX might be a course number. Alternatively, someone with an interest in things Tahltan - such as myself! - may browse http://del.icio.us/tag/Tahltan for things they wouldn't have known or thought to search for. You don't consider either of these uses of tagsimproper, do you?... Or do you see this as just a semantic issue? What I am calling aids to communication / sharing, and search,you are calling memory aids?... Btw, I don't mean to suggest that I don't think there are any good reasons to restrict those without a user's ID from suggesting tags for that user. I'm just still not clear on exactly what those reasons would be. A person reads an article about some subject and tags it as such. Thepublisher is likely to be much more general because they want that that link to show up in more places if at all possible. There may be many motives for wanting a link to show up in more places, some of them altruistic. E.g., I may read an especially inspiring piece about work being done to address indigenous poverty in Canada. Wanting to share this piece with people who share my interest in strategies for reducing poverty among aboriginal peoples, but who may think of their interest in different terms, I may tag my post not only with indigenous poverty Canada - as a memory aid - but also aboriginal native american first nations, etc, in order to make it accessible to others who may use different language to say the same thing. Others may or may not appreciate this - although I'm not quite sure in what cases (they couldn't easily avoid) this practice would really trouble them - but I certainly appreciate it when others, very often unknown to me,do the same for me, as it were. (Similarly,I may also tag this post NativeAmerican FirstNations, etc) From my perspective, there may be many, very good reasons to tag very liberally; and so facilitating liberal tagging actually strikes me as a Good Thing, not a Bad Thing. I thus think that allowing this feature would lower the quality ofthe system. Maybe. Thanks for sharing your views on this, Joshua. Matthew One thing that's impressed me is how variable people's tagging practices are - leaving me unsure as to what improper tagging would look like. Arguably, allowing publishers to tag their stuff would decrease tagging creativity, but it might increase the user base, too, which could increase creativity Interesting. This is only part of it for me - and probably the lesser part. I value del.icio.us at least as much as a way of finding things I didn't know to look for - i.e., as an alternative to search - as I value it as a mnemonic tool. Fair enough. But for the record, the context in which this question arose was NumSum.com. I wanted to post a spreadsheet I had developed to my own del.icio.us account, and was surprised when their [Post] to del.icio.us link didn't inherit the name or tags I had given the 'sheet. Theoretically, I could write a little Greasemonkey script to rewrite these links with my own username, title and tags - which I, frankly, would prefer to include, whether I'd written them myself or not, at least in this context - but my _javascript_ chops just aren't up to snuff, even for such a relatively simple project. AlasWell, at the very least, the publisher CAN supply the title of the document...Joshua--joshua schachter[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] GUI suggestion
Would it be possible to change the post GUI so that scrolling the notes field does not change the focus?I sometimes like to scroll the notes field while entering tags. Losing the focus (from the tags field to the notes field) is inconvenient in this context. Tks,Matthew ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] posting - URL construction
A couple of questions:I've noticed thathttp://del.icio.us/userX?url="" spreadsheet , e.g., works - in the sense that it succeeds in passing the URL, title *and* tags to the posting GUI - while this doesn't: http://del.icio.us/post?url="" spreadsheet; it leaves off the tags.Is there a (good) reason for this?Also, why is it not possible to post a description=? Also, I am aware of http://del.icio.us/help/api - and http://del.icio.us/help/api/posts, in particular - but this does not seem to address URL construction per the examples above. Is URL construction per ex's above documented anywhere?...Bottom line: Is it possible to write a link that will pass a URL, title *and* tags (and ideally also description) to del's posting GUI *without* knowing a user's del username?... Thanks,Matthew ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] del down?...
1. Joshua's links - http://del.icio.us/joshua - are coming up.2. My links - http://del.icio.us/userX - aren't. They're either generating the System error below, or else the page is coming up, but as if I hadn't posted any links.
3. http://del.icio.us is resulting in the following:System error
error:
Can't call method prepare on an undefined value at /www/del.icio.us/comp/user/get line 13.
context:
...
9:
my $usedb = 'master';
10:
my $ret;
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if (!$auth_user) { $usedb = 'user' }
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if (!exists ($db-{$usedb})) { $usedb = 'master' }
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$user_name_q-{$usedb} = $db-{$usedb}-prepare('select * from users where user_name = ?');
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my $query = $user_name_q-{$usedb};
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$query-execute(lc($user_name));
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...
code stack:
/www/del.icio.us/comp/user/get:13
/www/del.icio.us/comp/posts/all:28
/www/del.icio.us/site/index:22
/www/del.icio.us/site/autohandler:92
raw error
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Re: [delicious-discuss] del down?...
On 10/12/05, joshua schachter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we had a power failure. Sorry to hear about that. That's a drag. some of the slaves failed; things are coming back up now. everything should be fine shortly.I'm no longer experiencing problems cited previously, but finding that posts are not updating to my page.I'll give you a link to the post I'm talking about: http://del.icio.us/userx?v=2url="" But I guess you can't view that can you?When I load that URL, I see that the post has been logged and noted, but it doesn't show up on http://del.icio.us/userXI assume this too is related to your power failure, but figured I'd mention it in case somehow it's not.Matthew ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[delicious-discuss] Flock, the New Browser on the Block, integrating del.icio.us
>From the slashdot-just-needs-to-be-promoted dept.| Flock, the New Browser on the Block|| from the too-many-choices dept. || posted by ScuttleMonkey on Wednesday October 05, @17:04 (Software| | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/05/1817248This /. story references a BusinessWeek article re Flock that explains that del.icio.us (and Flickr) will be integrated into Flock. Frankly, I don't understand why. I mean, how many people use del.icio.us today vs. what's the size of Flock's target market?... And how hard is it to clone del.icio.us?...I would've thought it would've made sense for these folks to roll their own - hoping to leave del.icio.us in the dust - but ... shows how much I know, I guess. Off-topic - or maybe not, considering the impact Flock could have on the del.icio.us experience: Notwithstanding Firefox's success, it's hard for me - again, knowing as little as I know - to imagine Flock succeeding. I mean, Firefox's success does seem to suggest that incumbent browsers are at least somewhat vulnerable; but it seems to me like Firefox's development model is part of its advantage - relative to how I (not knowing) assume Flock, as a commercial entity, is going about it. I'd be curious if some of you who know more about this sort of thing than I could weigh in and help me understand all this.Tks,Matthew ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] Flock, the New Browser on the Block, integrating del.icio.us
On 10/6/05, Clay Shirky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how hard is it to clone del.icio.us?Both not-hard and hard. Several people have cloned the functionality, butit's hard to clone positive returns to scale. Right. Understood. I would've thought it would've made sense for these folks to roll their own - hoping to leave del.icio.us in the dust - but ... shows how much I know, I guess.Why re-invent when you can integrate? In a word, . When the reinventing's cheap, and the partnership's going to cost you something, why partner?... (You answer this below, of course.) The del.icio.us codebase is an emptyvessel -- the value comes from us. Starting from scratch means starting with zero value. Starting with del integration is free, Not exactly. It's just a question of control, but I think that control's worth something. I know Joshua's investors think it's worth something -- a lot, it seemed to me. and means lessdistraction from browser-writing, including the fact that del's server-basedmodel requires a different set of skills than writing and shipping abrowser.Fair enough, but it seems like del is so simple really that you could replicate it fairly readily. I share your skepticism about Flock's target of 100M users -- that is anabsurd number -- but starting with an empty clone of del would leave them with *fewer* initial target users and *more* work to do, a distinctly badset of options relative to the alternative.Yeah, I think this is the real argument to partner: It's a marketing thing. It's a way of attracting end users. They know they don't want to start from scratch so they leverage off of existing user bases - not only del, but Flickr, and presumably others as well. It seems a little conservative, but ... they have bitten off a lot, so ... who can begrudge them *one* conservative decision, smile Tks for your reply, Clay,Matthew ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [delicious-discuss] How to Import Bookmarks on Firefox into del.icio.us
On 9/27/05, M H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to I IMPORT the bookmarks on my Firefox browserinto del.icio.us so that I have all of my bookmarksavailable on the web at all times?Try searching on import site: del.icio.usYou'll probably find what you're looking for.Btw, do try to do a little work yourself before posting your queries to the list.Matthew ___ discuss mailing list discuss@del.icio.us http://lists.del.icio.us/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
