Re: Easy annotate and save PDF in Yojimbo
On Apr 14, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Krzysztof Maj wrote: just a simple question. I have PDF file inside the Yojimbo. I would like to annotate/rotate it and save it once again into Yojimbo database. How to do it? Now I have to open this file in Preview, do all my changes, save the file to the hard disk and import this file once again into Yojimbo. Now I have duplicate and I need to delete the old one file from the Yojimbo database. Even if I use Print- Save as PDF in Yojimbo option from the Preview I will get duplicate inside the Yojimbo database. I think it's irritating process just a bit and take a long time. Maybe someone can suggest something to make it easier? I ran into the same issue, and I came up with a very simple solution: don't use Yojimbo to store PDFs that you want edit or annotate. That's not what Yojimbo was designed for. I've been using Leap http://www.ironicsoftware.com/leap/index.html for storing PDFs I want to edit and have been very happy with it. As a bonus, Leap also acts like Yojimbo for all my files that won't or shouldn't go into Yojimbo. Leap is expensive ($59) but worth it in my book. If you don't want to spend that much money, look at Yep ($39): http://www.ironicsoftware.com/yep/index.html It just works with PDFs. Hope that helps. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy annotate and save PDF in Yojimbo
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Kenneth Kirksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 14, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Krzysztof Maj wrote: just a simple question. I have PDF file inside the Yojimbo. I would like to annotate/rotate it and save it once again into Yojimbo database. How to do it? Now I have to open this file in Preview, do all my changes, save the file to the hard disk and import this file once again into Yojimbo. Now I have duplicate and I need to delete the old one file from the Yojimbo database. Even if I use Print-Save as PDF in Yojimbo option from the Preview I will get duplicate inside the Yojimbo database. I think it's irritating process just a bit and take a long time. Maybe someone can suggest something to make it easier? I ran into the same issue, and I came up with a very simple solution: don't use Yojimbo to store PDFs that you want edit or annotate. That's not what Yojimbo was designed for. I've been using Leap http://www.ironicsoftware.com/leap/index.html for storing PDFs I want to edit and have been very happy with it. As a bonus, Leap also acts like Yojimbo for all my files that won't or shouldn't go into Yojimbo. Leap is expensive ($59) but worth it in my book. If you don't want to spend that much money, look at Yep ($39): http://www.ironicsoftware.com/yep/index.html Or use Bibdesk (http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/) for managing your pdfs and Skim (http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/) for doing the annotations w/out changing actually the PDFs. Both are open source (and Bibdesk can show Skim notes) Niels *who is not keeping PDFs in Yojimbo because of several reasons - annotations are one* -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy annotate and save PDF in Yojimbo
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Krzysztof Maj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-04-14, at 21:01, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: Or use Bibdesk (http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/) for managing your pdfs and Skim (http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/) for doing the annotations w/out changing actually the PDFs. Both are open source (and Bibdesk can show Skim notes) Does Skim integrates somehow with Yojimbo? not that I know of Niels -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy annotate and save PDF in Yojimbo
On Apr 14, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Krzysztof Maj wrote: Does Skim integrates somehow with Yojimbo? Yes, in the sense that there's an Applescript that will allow you to open a PDF from Yojimbo in Skim. Like the View with Preview command in Yojimbo, it creates a temporary copy of the file, so any changes you make will not be saved in Yojimbo. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy annotate and save PDF in Yojimbo
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Krzysztof Maj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-04-14, at 21:32, Kenneth Kirksey wrote: On Apr 14, 2008, at 3:10 PM, Krzysztof Maj wrote: Does Skim integrates somehow with Yojimbo? Yes, in the sense that there's an Applescript that will allow you to open a PDF from Yojimbo in Skim. Like the View with Preview command in Yojimbo, it creates a temporary copy of the file, so any changes you make will not be saved in Yojimbo. But I want to store all my changes inside Yojimbo as the same file. Maybe some Applescript plugin to do it and of course ask whether you want to override the existing one or save it as a new file. Guys from Barebones, do you hear our need??? ;-) the problem will be the extended attributes skim uses to store the annotations and stuff Niels -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy annotate and save PDF in Yojimbo
As others have suggested, I recommend Yep for PDFs. I would not store PDFs in Yojimbo. Yep stores the PDFs in the filesystem so your changes would get saved to back to the original file. It functions much like iPhoto does but for PDFs. For more general file management, you might look at Leap from the same developers. Leap leaves your files in the filesystem--it does not use a database like Yojimbo does. Leap is really a Finder from a different perspective that happens to manage tags. It is not suitable for storing quick notes, passwords, etc. like Yojimbo. Both Yep and Leap do use a database for storing metadata such as tags but not the original files: http://www.yepthat.com/ You might also consider EagleFiler. It uses the filesystem to store your files so you could open the PDF in Preview or Skim and changes would get saved. EagleFiler does support quick text notes too. Unlike Yojimbo, it supports hierarchical folders and multiple libraries. But unlike Yojimbo, you can't encrypt individual items in a library...but you can encrypt an entire library. It also doesn't support true .Mac syncing but it can store it's library on an iDisk or other shared disk. EagleFiler also works with TimeMachine and Yojimbo does not. http://c-command.com/eaglefiler/ I have been using Yojimbo for a long time and evaluated all existing options at the time before settling on Yojimbo. At the time, .Mac syncing was the selling point since I absolutely need access to my data on multiple computers and don't want to bother with manual syncing. However, I'm seriously considering a switch to EagleFiler or some other system because of Yojimbo's lack of support for TimeMachine (and the developer's attitude that it's Apple's problem) as well as the lack of hierarchical folders. After giving tagging a good faith effort, I still prefer folders or a combination of the two -- especially since Yojimbo's Smart Collections are not very smart at all. Based on traffic on this list, Yojimbo seems unlikely to support either better Smart Collections or hierarchical folders any time soon. Regards --Rhet On Apr 14, 2008, at 12:36 PM, Krzysztof Maj wrote: Hi everybody, just a simple question. I have PDF file inside the Yojimbo. I would like to annotate/rotate it and save it once again into Yojimbo database. How to do it? Now I have to open this file in Preview, do all my changes, save the file to the hard disk and import this file once again into Yojimbo. Now I have duplicate and I need to delete the old one file from the Yojimbo database. Even if I use Print- Save as PDF in Yojimbo option from the Preview I will get duplicate inside the Yojimbo database. I think it's irritating process just a bit and take a long time. Maybe someone can suggest something to make it easier? Thanks a lot in advance, All the best, -- Krzysztof Maj, JNCIP-M/T I'm a [EMAIL PROTECTED], are you still a PC? -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy annotate and save PDF in Yojimbo
While I do agree with the much repeated sentiment that a simple tool which does one thing well is a good thing and the UNIX way, I do think that Yojimbo would benefit from a few changes that would address some very frequently requested features without sacrificing simplicity. From watching this list the past however many months (maybe years), it seems that over 80% of the requests could be addressed via three basic changes: First, the true UNIX way is to embrace other tools and to allow them via piping. Yojimbo could be very easily extended just by allowing the data to be opened in an external application - automate the export, open in external application, and save back to Yojimbo process. Second, although I get the complexity of the hierarchical collections, allowing a simple one-level of grouping would address well over 80% of people's nested folders requests and most likely wouldn't require a dramatic change to the Core Data implementation. Finally, enhance the tagging implementation. There needs to be an easier way to browse files by tags, get a tag count, and manage tags (i.e. find and delete unused tags). One could imagine an iTunes-like browse function to easily filter by tags, type, and label. On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Scott J. Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Niels Kobschaetzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe they are doing it the Unix-way: one tool, does one task really good and just that I'm with you. Do one thing excellent rather than 100 things poorly. I'd rather BareBones sticks with the, bare bones, and does it well. Feature creep turns a small useful application into something coded by a large company in Redmond. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
