Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I love Yojimbo as it is too! Perhaps it needs to say at the top of the viewer window, Not a replacement for Finder.app :-) -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
Hi ! Yojimbo is OK but, for me, it lacks one very useful feature : you cannot have sub-folders. And I have now a too long list on my collection pane, so long that I think of working with another application (unfortunately). Claude Le 30 avr. 08 à 02:54, Keith Ledbetter a écrit : On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I think Yojimbo is a fine little application, too. It's just a shame that because it lacks one feature (nested collections) I had to delete it from my hard drive. I keep monitoring online, and I keep hoping that one day that needed feature will be added. People with as much data as I have can't live without nested collections. Keith -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
Yojimbo is nice but i thought about migrating to other applications as well because of the backup-issue. But I even refrained from testing other apps because I have absolutely no idea how I get all my data with meta-data (tags, urls) from yojimbo into other apps. How would you solve it when you would decide to move? But that problem occours with all of the applications out there - no good import filters from other similar apps Niels On 4/30/08, Claude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ! Yojimbo is OK but, for me, it lacks one very useful feature : you cannot have sub-folders. And I have now a too long list on my collection pane, so long that I think of working with another application (unfortunately). Claude Le 30 avr. 08 à 02:54, Keith Ledbetter a écrit : On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I think Yojimbo is a fine little application, too. It's just a shame that because it lacks one feature (nested collections) I had to delete it from my hard drive. I keep monitoring online, and I keep hoping that one day that needed feature will be added. People with as much data as I have can't live without nested collections. Keith -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I even refrained from testing other apps because I have absolutely no idea how I get all my data with meta-data (tags, urls) from yojimbo into other apps. How would you solve it when you would decide to move? When I got Leap http://www.ironicsoftware.com/leap/index.html and decide to move some large PDF documents out of Yojimbo and into the Finder I used the Export with Comment Tags Applescript: http://anoved.net/2007/08/yojimbo-export-with-comment-tags.html You could probably create an Applescript to export the Yojimbo items with whatever metadata items you wanted. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
On 29 Apr 2008, at 19:38, Scott J. Lopez wrote: Krzysztof, my message wasn't directed at you specificlly but in response to the many I wish Yojimbo did... messages I've seen over the years on this list. Yojimbo is a nice, small application that was meant for organizing some specific types of data. It's fast, it's lean, and it just works. I remember when BBEdit was a small lean application that grew and grew over the years into a very powerful IDE. It grew so large that BareBones decided to release TextWrangler (another great product) to bring back a small, lean text editor. Some of us don't need all the power of BBEdit, and some of us don't need Yojimbo to edit PDF files, graphics, store video, manage my todo's, manage my files, develop web sites, blog, upload, download, and many of the other requests I've seen here. I'm sure if the developers took all time to add all these featuers it would take years of man-power and the price would skyrocket. I am just posting a reminder to Bare Bones that your product is well appreciated as is! Maybe there are some others out there like me? Oh, it certainly is appreciated - I have been using Yojimbo for just over two years now, and it's one of the few applications on the Mac that I have used consistently for all that time. (During that time I have gotten used to the idea that there are unlikely to ever be nested folders :) I have tried a few more general organisers which handle all sorts of files and I find that they actually slow me down - I would rather just know where my project directories are and edit things from there, rather than have to edit, re-import, update checksums and so on. Yojimbo's excellent Applescript support means that I can do an awful lot of custom work as well. (I would very much like to have more powerful smart folders mind you, which are not just AND tag lists. I think that's in the vein of the Applescript support i.e. allowing users to set up their own filters and process things their own way if they need to.) It does take all sorts though; I know people who swear by EagleFiler, or Evernote, or plain text notes or whatever. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
I totally agree. It needs to have sub-folders! Greetings, Ron Am 30.04.2008 um 09:42 schrieb Claude: Hi ! Yojimbo is OK but, for me, it lacks one very useful feature : you cannot have sub-folders. And I have now a too long list on my collection pane, so long that I think of working with another application (unfortunately). Claude Le 30 avr. 08 à 02:54, Keith Ledbetter a écrit : On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I think Yojimbo is a fine little application, too. It's just a shame that because it lacks one feature (nested collections) I had to delete it from my hard drive. I keep monitoring online, and I keep hoping that one day that needed feature will be added. People with as much data as I have can't live without nested collections. Keith -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keyboard command for bullet points?
Hi there, I'm looking for the quickest way to activate bullet points from the keyboard while in a note. Currently, I Cmd-R to reveal the ruler, Ctrl-Shift-Tab to the Lists menu, then Down Arrow a couple times to reach the bullet point icon, Return to select it, then Tab to go back to the body of the note. Another Cmd-R to hide the ruler is optional. Or I mouse it. Either way it seems like there should be a better option for something so simple. Is there a system-wide keyboard shortcut for activating bullet points that I am missing? Or a way to create keyboard shortcuts for non-menu items? Thanks, Chris -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, if anyone wants to switch to SOHO notes, Ill sell you my family pack license. Or exchange it for your family pack license for Yojimbo. I have severe buyers-remorse and wish I had bought Yojimbo instead of SOHO. dg On Apr 30, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Ron Kubsch wrote: I totally agree. It needs to have sub-folders! Greetings, Ron Am 30.04.2008 um 09:42 schrieb Claude: Hi ! Yojimbo is OK but, for me, it lacks one very useful feature : you cannot have sub-folders. And I have now a too long list on my collection pane, so long that I think of working with another application (unfortunately). Claude Le 30 avr. 08 à 02:54, Keith Ledbetter a écrit : On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Scott J. Lopez wrote: I see a lot of messages out there requsting Yojimbo did a lot of things it doesn't and I just want to tell the developers I'm quite happy with Yojimbo the way it is. I think Yojimbo is a fine little application, too. It's just a shame that because it lacks one feature (nested collections) I had to delete it from my hard drive. I keep monitoring online, and I keep hoping that one day that needed feature will be added. People with as much data as I have can't live without nested collections. Keith -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- David G. Simmons http://blogs.sun.com/davidgs/ 919-961-8082 ** NOTE: Message digitally signed with PGP for security and authenticity ** Public Key available for message verification The day Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck ... is the day they start making vacuum cleaners. Program the World! http://www.SunSpotWorld.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIGIAtsYBqXm3CE3kRAv/+AKDqR3qjNrxTqIWZ+qUYRdNnBswOrwCfRQb/ saeyLuzPIJElfJ8V9bbafJU= =KQta -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard command for bullet points?
Option-* creates a bullet point, but just the character, no intending or formatting to go with it. ~Ted On 30-Apr-08, at 6:58 AM, Chris Coldewey wrote: Hi there, I'm looking for the quickest way to activate bullet points from the keyboard while in a note. Currently, I Cmd-R to reveal the ruler, Ctrl-Shift-Tab to the Lists menu, then Down Arrow a couple times to reach the bullet point icon, Return to select it, then Tab to go back to the body of the note. Another Cmd-R to hide the ruler is optional. Or I mouse it. Either way it seems like there should be a better option for something so simple. Is there a system-wide keyboard shortcut for activating bullet points that I am missing? Or a way to create keyboard shortcuts for non-menu items? Thanks, Chris -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's workingcorrectly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard command for bullet points?
On Apr 30, 2008, at 6:58 AM, Chris Coldewey wrote: I'm looking for the quickest way to activate bullet points from the keyboard while in a note. In any standard Mac OS X text view (NSTextView), like Yojimbo's notes or a TextEdit document, use Option-Tab to automatically begin a list. By default, a hyphen character is used as the bullet point, but this can be changed by selecting the list and choosing a different bullet style from the formatting ruler. Hope this helps. -Dennis -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
I'm really glad someone spoke up for Yojimbo! (Thanks Scott) I've been getting tired of seeing this list become a dump for what people don't like about Yojimbo and move away from being a helpful resource. I have no problem with feature requests but It's been absolutely over the top in the last few months. I asked a pretty simple question just after the latest release regarding moving PDFs of images to the new Image smart collection. The question got completely lost in the sea of feature requests and was never answered. (I came up with a solution a few days later.) With that said I’m going to make a non-feature request to the Bare Bones/Yojimbo team : Please don’t include a nested folder feature in the next or any future releases of Yojimbo. PLEASE!!! I know this has been said before on this list but I’m going to repeat it. If tagging, labels, smart collections, tag collections, search, date sorting, file type sorting and folders (even if they aren’t nested), are not enough for you to organize your information then : 1. Your archiving system is waaay to complicated. In which case I would highly recommend the book “Getting Things Done” by David Allen. 2. Yojimbo just doesn’t work with your personal information management style. If you want nested folders with the ability to quickly add and retrieve then upgrade to Leopard and just use the Finder in combination with Spotlight and/or Quicksilver. Yojimbo does what it's supposed to do really, really well. Simplify the process of archiving and retrieving reference items. Bare Bones doesn't promise any more or less and they shouldn't. Read the product description : http://www.barebones.com/products/yojimbo/index.shtml and find the section on how Yojimbo is an excellent calendar, mail, blog cms, rss feed reader and alternative operating system. Did you find it? Hopefully you never will. Bare Bones, your product is AWESOME!!! Thank you for making one part of my life simple. -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Happy with Yojimbo the way it is!
Good afternoon, On 30/4/08 at 5:31 PM -0400, Luis Roca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With that said I’m going to make a non-feature request to the Bare Bones/Yojimbo team : Please don’t include a nested folder feature in the next or any future releases of Yojimbo. PLEASE!!! How refreshing, thanks Luis. :-) I'm also another very satisfied Yojimbo user. When I first started using it, I was creating collections and diligently filing new items. I never use collections now. The search field is way more flexible and very quick. I just add items to Y and trust they will be there when I need them. The content/indexing of items is generally enough to search on (for bookmarks I will often grab the first paragraph of the page to add to comment field). And even though I was using tags religiously, I've even stopped doing that expect for rare circumstances. Yojimbo is my knowledge base, and I've never had any trouble finding info I need. Well, that's not true, I have had problems but it's my own fault for not having moved everything from DevonTHINK yet. So if it's info from that long ago, I fire up DevonTHINK, find the info I was missing, and add it to Yojimbo. And for everyone else who feels they MUST continue asking for the kitchen sink, Please read the last two lines of the sig on every message on this list. I want to use this list to learn how to better use the program we have, not speculate on how an excellent program can maybe improve marginally. Charlie -- Charlie Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 141, Windsor, NSW 2756, Australia O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- -- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list yojimbo-talk@barebones.com. To unsubscribe, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List archives: http://www.listsearch.com/yojimbotalk.lasso Have a feature request, or not sure if the software's working correctly? Please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Almost happy with Yojimbo the way it is
In other words, I want to be able to have multiple self-contained library databases. You might want to try Eagle Filer: http://c-command.com/eaglefiler/ It is similar to Yojimbo but supports multiple libraries and nested folders. It also stores its data as regular files in the filesystem so you could easily copy all the files you want and give to a friend per the use case you outlined or browse your data with the Finder. Now, some comments on the recent discussions on this list... First, I'm not a Yojimbo-hater -- I've used Yojimbo since it was released and have a library with thousands of records. However, I've gotten very tired of the lack of nested folders (makes the drop dock too big), lack of true Smart Collections, lack of a read only flag, and the monolithic database as well as lack of Time Machine support. At the time that I bought Yojimbo, I extensively evaluated every digital junk drawer application for the Mac and settled on Yojimbo because of ease of use, exportability, Applescriptability, and most importantly, .Mac syncing. The only reason I've stuck with Yojimbo so far is .Mac syncing. I want my data available on multiple computers and none of Yojimbo's competitors support seamless .Mac syncing the way Yojimbo does. However, if the next paid upgrade from Yojimbo doesn't address some of those issues I mentioned (and have been mentioned by many others on this list), then I'll buy one of the competing products, most likely Eagle Filer and work around the lack of .Mac syncing (Eagle Filer can store it's library on iDisk for example). Since I use Yojimbo more than any other app on my Mac, that's not idle talk -- switching would be a big investment of time. I've got a lot of data in Yojimbo and a lot of time invested in scripts to make Yojimbo fit into my workflow. Contrary to some of the other posts on this list in the last few days, I do think Yojimbo needs some improvement and I think this list is a good place to discuss it. It's rather disheartening to see the Yojimbo fans shoot down any feature request because I like Yojimbo the way it is -- there's always room for improvement and honest dialogue by Yojimbo power-users (probably the majority of people on this list) is a good way for the developers to get feedback on what their *paying* users want. Unfortunately, what usually happens on this list is that a Yojimbo fan will tell the feature-requester to go away because Yojimbo is great the way it is and the developer won't say anything. If someone from BareBones does pipe in, it's usually to say We're never going to add that feature. See previous post... This compares poorly to several other indie-Mac software lists I'm on (such as the forum for Leap and Yep, both excellent applications: http://www.ironicsoftware.com/) where the developer is happy to get feedback on what users actually want and participates in the dialogue. Of course, not every feature can or should be added -- as someone who's written a lot of software, I hate feature bloat as much as the next guy. But I'd rather give my money to a company that listens to its users and tries to provide a product the users want instead of what the developer thinks the users *should* want. Several of my friends and colleagues use Yojimbo based on my recommendation. I think it's a useful application and a great value but I'm not sure I can continue to recommend it, for the reasons given above. I really like the application and it's simplified my life but I still find that I'm doing too much bending of my workflow to suit Yojimbo. Software is a tool that should work for me, not the other way around. Cheers, Rhet On Apr 30, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Jerry Weldon wrote: I'm glad there are people who like Yojimbo the way it is. I want people to buy it, because I think Bare Bones is a good company and I want it to continue to exist. However, Yojimbo is not quite adequate for my needs. I tried Yojimbo for the 30-day trial period last summer, using it to collect information for a vacation. I found it to be very useful, and a pleasure to use. It was handy to be able to store PDFs and web archives of information I wanted to come back to easily, as well as my own notes. Yojimbo was my first experience with tagging, and I found that to be useful as well. When the trial period was over, however, I did not purchase the program. Why not? Our vacation was over. I no longer needed the information immediately at hand, but neither did I want to delete it. What I really wanted was to set that library aside and start a new one for the next project or trip. I'd like to use Yojimbo to collect everything related to a particular project, and be able to store that collection with other project materials, be it on a CD in a box with other items or on a computer at a different location. Perhaps a friend would like to
