Re: [9fans] ghostscript not finding LucidaSans

2010-06-28 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:40 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: guess i forgot the bind /tmp /sys/lib/lp/tmp. lp is pretty complicated. - erik Thanks, now it worked. I decided to investigate the issue further with what you gave me and I found that all I needed to get it to work was the bind

Re: [9fans] ghostscript not finding LucidaSans

2010-06-28 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
Actually, on further investigation it turns out while dircp /n/sources/ plan9/sys/lib/postscript dir works fine, diff -r dir /n/sources/plan9/ sys/lib/postscript gives me the same diff log, and diff -r dir olddir tells me they're identical. So what's going on here...

Re: [9fans] ghostscript not finding LucidaSans

2010-06-28 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 28 Jun 2010, at 04:18, Pietro Gagliardi wrote: I'm not sure if this has to do with 9vx... in fact I'm not sure exactly what's causing these things to behave as they are now. I have the same problem with postscript, and wonder if something went wrong in getting the files from Plan 9 to

Re: [9fans] ghostscript not finding LucidaSans

2010-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Jun 28 02:37:21 EDT 2010, pietr...@mac.com wrote: Actually, on further investigation it turns out while dircp /n/sources/ plan9/sys/lib/postscript dir works fine, diff -r dir /n/sources/plan9/ sys/lib/postscript gives me the same diff log, and diff -r dir olddir tells me they're

Re: [9fans] ghostscript not finding LucidaSans

2010-06-28 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:09 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: On Mon Jun 28 02:37:21 EDT 2010, pietr...@mac.com wrote: Actually, on further investigation it turns out while dircp /n/ sources/ plan9/sys/lib/postscript dir works fine, diff -r dir /n/sources/ plan9/ sys/lib/postscript gives me the same

Re: [9fans] ghostscript not finding LucidaSans

2010-06-28 Thread ron minnich
well, once again, ratrace can be a good tool for understanding things that don't make sense. I use it all the time for this type of problem and the results are frequently illuminating. ron

[9fans] xml

2010-06-28 Thread hugo rivera
If you haven't heard of XML yet, you must be living under a rock! - Programming in the .NET Environment Taken from the fortunes file. I guess I must be living under a rock, but I don't know what xml is, or pragmatically, what is it for. Please, understand that I'm not trying to start a flame war

Re: [9fans] Cleaning up the IP tables

2010-06-28 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
I'm not sure how long it's been building up, but there are more than 4000 Closed TCP connections on a web accessible Plan 9 server, according to netstat. If you find the netstat output annoying: /n/sources/patch/sorry/netstat-open --lyndon

Re: [9fans] xml

2010-06-28 Thread Russ Cox
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:19 AM, hugo rivera uai...@gmail.com wrote: If you haven't heard of XML yet, you must be living under a rock!  - Programming in the .NET Environment Taken from the fortunes file. I guess I must be living under a rock, but I don't know what xml is, or pragmatically,

Re: [9fans] xml

2010-06-28 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 28 Jun 2010, at 17:19, hugo rivera wrote: If you haven't heard of XML yet, you must be living under a rock! - Programming in the .NET Environment Taken from the fortunes file. I guess I must be living under a rock, but I don't know what xml is, or pragmatically, what is it for. Please,

[9fans] problems with tracing 9vx on os x (was: Re: ghostscript not finding LucidaSans

2010-06-28 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:04 AM, ron minnich wrote: well, once again, ratrace can be a good tool for understanding things that don't make sense. I use it all the time for this type of problem and the results are frequently illuminating. ron First I found a slight building problem on Mac OS X

Re: [9fans] xml

2010-06-28 Thread Rob Pike
The essence of XML is this: the problem it solves is not hard, and it does not solve the problem well. -- Phil Wadler, POPL 2003 -rob

Re: [9fans] xml

2010-06-28 Thread David Leimbach
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Rob Pike robp...@gmail.com wrote: The essence of XML is this: the problem it solves is not hard, and it does not solve the problem well. -- Phil Wadler, POPL 2003 -rob I love Wadler's work.

Re: [9fans] xml

2010-06-28 Thread Rob Pike
I should add that Russ's post is on point, Wadler's slightly off. I would extend it as The essence of XML is this: the problem it solves is not hard, it does not solve the problem well, and anyway it's not the problem people think it solves. -rob

Re: [9fans] xml

2010-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Jun 28 14:56:12 EDT 2010, robp...@gmail.com wrote: I should add that Russ's post is on point, Wadler's slightly off. I would extend it as The essence of XML is this: the problem it solves is not hard, it does not solve the problem well, and anyway it's not the problem people think it

Re: [9fans] xml

2010-06-28 Thread Corey Thomasson
On 28 June 2010 15:06, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: yet in that it does something, it does so vigorously and verbosly and does so less vexatiously than asn.1, which does solve the problem xml purports to solve. - erik Was I supposed to hear that in my head as Hugo

Re: [9fans] Go/Inferno toolchain (Was: comment and newline in

2010-06-28 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 4:26 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: but I can dig them up, clean them up, and share them, My particular concern is to encourage convergence towards a single source distribution rather than divergence as seems to have been the case so far with Plan 9 native, Inferno,

[9fans] offered without comment or judgement

2010-06-28 Thread ron minnich
not saying it is good or bad, just wanted people to see it https://www.signup4.net/UPLOAD/STRA10A/DARP31E/CRASH%20Proposer%20Day%20v2.pdf ron

Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement

2010-06-28 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 28 Jun 2010, at 23:32, ron minnich wrote: not saying it is good or bad, just wanted people to see it https://www.signup4.net/UPLOAD/STRA10A/DARP31E/CRASH%20Proposer%20Day%20v2.pdf ron I really like the anti-monoculture statements.

Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement

2010-06-28 Thread Wes Kussmaul
ron minnich wrote: https://www.signup4.net/UPLOAD/STRA10A/DARP31E/CRASH%20Proposer%20Day%20v2.pdf Innate or adaptive, it's all based upon the flawed premise that it's possible to determine the intentions of the sender of a stream of bits. It is not possible to determine the intentions of

Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement

2010-06-28 Thread Stanley Lieber
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Wes Kussmaul w...@authentrus.com wrote: ron minnich wrote: https://www.signup4.net/UPLOAD/STRA10A/DARP31E/CRASH%20Proposer%20Day%20v2.pdf Innate or adaptive, it's all based upon the flawed premise that it's possible to determine the intentions of the sender

Re: [9fans] offered without comment or judgement

2010-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1419344994607129684hl=en# i suppose the format string should have been %llud not %lld. - erik