Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-28 Thread Lucio De Re
On 3/26/21, Charles Forsyth wrote: > That reminds me that this > https://retrage.github.io/2020/08/01/9pfspkg-en.html looked quite > interesting but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. > I have followed the instructions and with a little help (I filed an issue and I got a prompt, helpful

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-28 Thread sirjofri
28.03.2021 00:14:51 Ethan Gardener : On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Wes Kussmaul wrote: On 3/26/21 12:18 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:20:44AM -0400, Wes Kussmaul wrote: The replacement of legacy BIOS with UEFI had two consequences:   1. Dual booting is not

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-27 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > > On 3/26/21 12:18 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:20:44AM -0400, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > >> The replacement of legacy BIOS with UEFI had two consequences: > >> > >> 1. Dual booting is not possible > > > > This is

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
The original message only included the link parenthetically, to illustrate vulnerabilities introduced by UEFI. As in, "Here's one example of the problem." It was certainly not introducing a technical discussion of either UEFI or Trickbot. Chill. On 3/26/21 2:20 PM, hiro wrote: the only

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread hiro
the only "knowledge" is a screenshot of some headline of some article on wired.com and not even a link to or summary of the article. the rest below is spam spam and more spam. On 3/26/21, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > > On 3/26/21 12:12 PM, hiro wrote: >>> While I don't know the details of your

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 3/26/21 12:12 PM, hiro wrote: While I don't know the details of your arrangement I understand that you're partial to Microsoft, which is fine, they're a good company. But people really do need to know about the hazards that were inadvertently introduced with UEFI. sure. but your link is

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 3/26/21 12:18 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:20:44AM -0400, Wes Kussmaul wrote: The replacement of legacy BIOS with UEFI had two consequences: 1. Dual booting is not possible This is false. Dual-booting works just fine with UEFI; tools like efibootmgr make it

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:20:44AM -0400, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > The replacement of legacy BIOS with UEFI had two consequences: > > 1. Dual booting is not possible This is false. Dual-booting works just fine with UEFI; tools like efibootmgr make it trivial and I do it all the time. It's much

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread hiro
> While I don't know the details of your arrangement I understand that > you're partial to Microsoft, which is fine, they're a good company. > > But people really do need to know about the hazards that were > inadvertently introduced with UEFI. sure. but your link is not providing that knowledge.

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 3/26/21 9:27 AM, hiro wrote: http://trickbot.osmio.ch/ please stop spamming your weird snakeoil bullshit companies here. While I don't know the details of your arrangement I understand that you're partial to Microsoft, which is fine, they're a good company. But people really do need

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Charles Forsyth
That reminds me that this https://retrage.github.io/2020/08/01/9pfspkg-en.html looked quite interesting but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 3:20 PM Charles Forsyth wrote: > I see that 9front has had some UEFI boot support for 6 years. > I use an earlier version of

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Charles Forsyth
I see that 9front has had some UEFI boot support for 6 years. I use an earlier version of their iplpxe on my 64-bit cpu servers (not booting 9front). I did use the iplfat and ipliso as well to boot other kernels. When I've got a moment I might diff to see what changes I made. On Fri, Mar 26, 2021

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Richard Miller
> 1. Dual booting is not possible > 2. UEFI introduced vulnerabilities ... Don't these two things cancel each other out? Can we not use the same vulnerabilities to induce the firmware to boot our own choice of operating system? It wouldn't be the first time Plan 9 was installed using ... shall

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread hiro
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Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 3/26/21 4:36 AM, saif.re...@outlook.com wrote: I want it as a dual booted os on my system If your Windows system is of recent vintage, that is probably not going to work. I recently purchased, and returned, a high end Lenovo laptop with the intent of dual booting it. The replacement

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Lucio De Re
On 3/26/21, saif.re...@outlook.com wrote: > I've uncompressed .bz2 but the problem is burning the .ISO file. And I also > have some problem. I don't use any GNU or Linux related stuffs. Most of the > ISO burner are from GUN. I used the one that comes with Windows and also > tried Rufus(though I

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, at 7:53 AM, saif.re...@outlook.com wrote: > I've uncompressed .bz2 but the problem is burning the .ISO file. Following my guess at what's wrong: You need to burn it as an image not a file. I think the default for most burners is to make a

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Richard Miller
> I want it as a dual booted os on my system The standard CD works best to install Plan 9 as the first or only operating system on a machine. Do you have an empty hard disk? Or an empty primary partition? If installing on a partition of a shared disk, it's safest to use your existing operating

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread saif . resun
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Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread saif . resun
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Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
I've not tried this, but I think an easier way to play with Plan 9 on Windows 10 might be to use Hyper-V and have the VM boot up from plan9.iso file. On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:54 AM wrote: > > I've uncompressed .bz2 but the problem is burning the .ISO file. And I also > have some problem. I

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread saif . resun
I've uncompressed .bz2 but the problem is burning the .ISO file. And I also have some problem. I don't use any GNU or Linux related stuffs. Most of the ISO burner are from GUN. I used the one that comes with Windows and also tried Rufus(though I don't like GNU related stuffs) but failed.

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Lucio De Re
The trouble here isn't so much Windows as failure to realise that a compressed image isn't what one needs to write to the CD. I don't know what tools are available on Windows to uncompress .bz2 files. Once that hurdle is overcome, I have little doubt that wrting to CD (or to a USB drive) will be

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-26 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
Have you tried downloading the archive that contains the CD iso image, https://9p.io/plan9/download/plan9.iso.bz2, and burning that onto a CD or USB drive? If your hardware is supported, https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/Supported_PC_hardware/index.html, you would be able to boot the system off the CD/USB

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-25 Thread saif . resun
I'm a Windows 10 user. I'm facing huge trouble to burn it. Can you please do this for me: * download the CD Image from here: https://9p.io/plan9/download/plan9.iso.bz2 * extract it and then burn it on a USB using your plan9 system. * then copy everything  from the USB in a folder then

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-25 Thread Richard Miller
> don't I need to burn it? You need a CD with exactly the contents of plan9.iso beginning at sector zero. How you make that depends on what operating system you're using. (I only know how to do it on Plan 9, which won't help you much.) -- 9fans: 9fans

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-25 Thread saif . resun
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Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-25 Thread Richard Miller
> I want to install Plan9. Can you please tell me the right way to do that. The traditional way is from the CD image. If you expand plan9.iso.bz2 with the bunzip2 utility to produce plan9.iso, and make a CD of that expanded image, you should have a bootable installer.

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-25 Thread saif . resun
I want to install Plan9. Can you please tell me the right way to do that. I also downloaded the CD Image but Rufus were unable to burn it. Then I burned it with another CD burner but it didn't boot Plan9 installer. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-25 Thread Richard Miller
> I downloaded the USB Disk image from there  > https://9p.io/plan9/download/usbdisk.bz2 I think that's not an installer image. It's a self-contained Plan 9 system (CPU kernel and fossil filesystem) which you can run from a USB flash drive without having to "install" anything ... provided, that

[9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

2021-03-25 Thread saif . resun
hello there! I downloaded the USB Disk image from there  https://9p.io/plan9/download/usbdisk.bz2 and burned it with Rufus. When I booted using the USB it showed this: MBR...PBS2... Plan 9 from Bell Labspcirouting : ignoring south bridge PCT.0.31.0 8086/8C5C bios (USB) loader cpu0 :  3191MHz