dammit - they'll let anyone go to these things. him and his drunken tigers.
brucee
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Roman Shaposhnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 3:01 AM, Kernel Panic wrote:
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/cinap_lenrek/photos/iwp9.2008/dscn0213.jpg
Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008, at 3:01 AM, Kernel Panic wrote:
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/cinap_lenrek/photos/iwp9.2008/dscn0213.jpg
This one is truly awesome!
yeah :-)
Thanks,
Roman.
For those not in the know Tiger is participating in a token ring
experiment. I think cinap has him at the moment. Daddy expects him
back next IWP9. Coming to a 9fan near you.
brucee
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Kernel Panic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
On Nov 6, 2008,
Did I miss something obvious?
And this would be a million dollar question here. I don't
think you did (although Eric (sic) constantly warns us of
dragons), but on the other hand I have very little
experience with the kernel itself.
I hope somebody comments on the fencing that is or
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to see a you tube video of the troff.
Dude, don't tempt me. When (if?) I (ever?) get off of active duty, I
might do a youtube video on troff. I know that's not quite what you
were saying, but it'd be hilarious.
The target process is *already* waiting for the IO stuck inside the
kernel. It is not on a runqueue, not it is considered to be places
there.
since procwrite doesn't acquire anything other than the debug lock,
how do you know? the proc could start up again before you notice.
How?
Hi folks,
the english wikipedia page on Plan9 implies that procfs was
an Plan9 invention.
Is this true ?
cu
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procfs:
UNIX 8th Edition
Tom J. Killian
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tom_J._Killianaction=editredlink=1
implemented the UNIX 8th Edition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Version_8_Unix version of |/proc|: he
presented a paper titled Processes as
erik quanstrom wrote:
How? If there's a stop message already written to /proc/n/ctl. Once
that is done, the process is guaranteed to be in 2 states and those
states only: continue waiting for the I/O, being actually Stopped.
Both of the don't let the scheduler take it to the runqueue.
I'm pretty sure Peter Weinberger (pjw) did the very first, which
Killian adapted and improved when pjw lost interest.
The big change in Plan 9 was moving to a true file system hierarchy
instead of just one file and a pile of ioctls. Linux's /proc is very
close in overall design.
-rob
On Nov 7, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'd like to see a you tube video of the troff.
Dude, don't tempt me. When (if?) I (ever?) get off of active duty, I
might do a youtube video on troff. I know that's not quite
I am using a Dell Latitude CPx laptop, trying to install Plan 9.
I successfully get to the boot from: line, but anything I put into the
entry gives back no feedback. I have tried sdC0!cdboot!9pcflop.gz ,
sdC1!cdboot!9pcflop.gz , sdD0!9pcflop.gz , and sdD1!9pcflop.gz with no luck.
Some of the
On Nov 7, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'd like to see a you tube video of the troff.
Dude, don't tempt me. When (if?) I (ever?) get off of active duty, I
might do a youtube video on troff. I know that's not
Guys,
do we have something like this:
http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
for 9P? At this point I don't even care what OS these
servers run under I just need the most comprehensive
list of every possible kind of a resource that can be
shared/served using 9P.
Thanks,
No! I don't want a video tute on troff. Just a video of you typing in
the troff. It would certainly be better to look at then your idea of
how plan9 works.
brucee
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 7, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at
mostly section 4 of the manual, i'd have said,
although there are a few in section 8 where the
file service is incidental to the service
(eg, cs and dns)
Hello,
I tried to use my IBM ThinkCentre S50 as a Plan 9 terminal,
but I discovered a really strange problem.
When I boot my terminal using PXE, rio is running fine, but the
cursor does not appear. The mouse is useable, but with an invisible
cursor and I cannot type anything with the keyboard.
FUSE won. It's easy, it works, and it has cross-platform support (macos/linux).
9p is not going to replace fuse now, if ever, on these systems.
That's not to say that 9p goes away. But it's not worth worrying about
whether FUSE will have more users -- it already has and it probably
always will.
of course, that's just the protocol, and to show the larger
idea of the representation of things by name spaces
(instead of ioctls and special system calls)
would have to include section 3 (devices).
it's fairly pervasive.---BeginMessage---
mostly section 4 of the manual, i'd have said,
although
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 11:22:49PM +0100, David du Colombier wrote:
Hello,
I tried to use my IBM ThinkCentre S50 as a Plan 9 terminal,
but I discovered a really strange problem.
When I boot my terminal using PXE, rio is running fine, but the
cursor does not appear. The mouse is useable, but
and what's at the end of a fuse?
exactly. i was reminded of that the other night as
i was lighting the blue touch paper before standing WELL BACK
That said, what's the resource sharing protocol for fuse? None of
those file systems has a common wire protocol AFAICT. Those servers
are hooks from kernel to user to something. FUSE is not for resource
sharing, is it? It's for making it easy to write file systems for
Linux users.
the new
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Skip Tavakkolian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
fuse has a lot of quirks and doesn't inspire confidence.
Which hasn't stopped most of the software I am abused by -- er, use --
from achieving world dominance :-)
ron
We've had the same problem here when turning on Hyperthreading...
iirc, David Eckhardt has posted here about this a few years ago; I don't
remember if there was fix in that thread or not.
I found David Eckhardt's post on 9fans archive [1]. It was helpful.
I firstly tried to disable
However, the mouse cursor leave some little garbage on the screen when
clicking on the screen.
In fact, I just forgot to re-enable hwaccel. It works perfectly now.
--
David du Colombier
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 22:38 +, C H Forsyth wrote:
of course, that's just the protocol, and to show the larger
idea of the representation of things by name spaces
(instead of ioctls and special system calls)
would have to include section 3 (devices).
it's fairly pervasive.
Sure. But
I know one thing: every major operating system I have ever heard of
leverages shared libraries. Can all those people be wrong? I don't think so.
Eight billion Windows users can't be wrong. (Can they?)
you have to love comcast. They just blocked my port 25 incoming. A
quick search around the net reveals they are jerking people around
regularly on this issue.
And people claim UUCP is obsolete.
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 14:31 -0800, ron minnich wrote:
FUSE won. It's easy, it works, and it has cross-platform support
(macos/linux).
It certainly looks that way. It also certainly looks like I have to
study it. Do you guys have any good pointers and/or wisdom in that
department? I'd be happy
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you talking about this:
http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FuseProtocolSketch
That's just kernel to user on same machine. What goes over the wire?
And FUSE, as I realize now, seems to fit the bill
On Nov 7, 2008, at 7:56 PM, ron minnich wrote:
And FUSE, as I realize now, seems to fit the bill quite nicely.
It is available on quite a few OSes and the list of resource sharing
protocols for which adapters are already available seems to be quite
large.
And little lacks in 9p like symlnks,
Indeed. Fortunately Russ' code was very clean, but if you turn on
tracing you get quite a surprise. Here we are concerned about
optimizing 9p. The amount of fuse traffic for simple operations is
astounding. You stop wondering why? and just try and cope. I'm not
dumping on fuse - it does fill a gap
The amount of fuse traffic for simple operations is
astounding. You stop wondering why? and just try and cope. I'm not
dumping on fuse - it does fill a gap - rather I just don't wish to
look at its implementation.
This sound so much like the argument about shared libraries ...
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