On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 5:28 AM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what do you mean doesn't work too well anymore? i haven't noticed anything
going broken.
But lucio has had trouble.
I guess I overstated the case a bit.
--Joel
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Gorka Guardiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, my question remains, why not?. Even in the UPE it says that
the echo -n '
'
is ugly...
…At this point the Plan 9 realized history repeating itself, and
although she did not want to offend either, she decided it
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a valid reason to have echo process the arguments given?
I'm leaning toward Eric's suggestion of splitting echo in twain. When
facing south, the Plan 9 will open her mouth to echo nothing; when
facing north
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Steve Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you have the source for the quadrature encoder, and a DAC cannot be thar
complex can it? why not email Comedi and ask them for card programming info.
Comedi is an Open Sores project to unify the worlds data acquisition
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the day. I don't think that Plan9 scheduler has had an
opportunity to be tuned for such an environment. Same goes for
virtual memory page related algorithms.
The scheduling code does have a heuristic for processor
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another
important one is sharing. Without mmap(), an (real) shared library
support most likely will require special kernel support.
Actually, almost any kernel
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Joel C. Salomon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I forget who said it,
Found it in http://9fans.net/archive/2002/08/130:
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:43:45 -0400, David Gordon Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On freebsd and Linux, exec happens via an mmap (more or less
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think Dune is a must read for any scifi fan...
Dune is one of the few books I put down partly-read. Came a point
where I just didn't care what happened to the characters on the other
side of the page,
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Eris Discordia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are the Great Three, of course. Isaac Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, and
Robert A. Heinlein. Anything they wrote is worth a read. Sometimes a number
of reads. Clarke particularly interests me. Try the short story The Nine
erik quanstrom wrote:
next we'll be replacing :-) (':' '-' ')' for those with impaired mail
readers) with a jpeg.
This is Plan 9: replace it with ☺.
—Joel
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 10:34 AM, matt mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote:
It's a P2P system where data blocks are traded not files.
A file becomes a set of blocks and if requested, anyone who has the block
can supply the data, even if they don't possess the same file.
Sounds vaguely like Freenet.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM, xiantingmanbu xiantingma...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there anyone porting TexLive to Plan 9? Plan 9 hasn't so many tex-
related programs. Tex and MF is not enough.
Bear in mind that some of the newer TeX programs (pdfTeX, XɘTeX,
luaTeX) use a C++ library to handle
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:08 AM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/3/11 gd...@9grid.es:
www.stackless.com
not viable. it doesn't even support alt, as far as i can see.
It seems to me from
http://www.stackless.com/wiki/Channels#channel-balance that
Stackless Python's Channels have
…and do you believe in yesterday(1)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXDikj1i7w or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpdiXspBALg; no idea which is the
more faithful rendition.
—Joel Salomon
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote:
On Wed Mar 25 19:22:23 EDT 2009, devon.od...@gmail.com wrote:
Another student I spoke to on IRC spoke of the possibility of
bootstrapping LLVM for Plan 9 on Linux and getting it to run natively.
That would give us a
Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
Another student I spoke to on IRC spoke of the possibility of
bootstrapping LLVM for Plan 9 on Linux and getting it to run natively.
That would give us a whole bunch of different compilers.
Something to watch out for with such a project:
The LLVM back-end for Windows
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:13 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
unfortunately, i think this will just encourage users to
aim for 10 messages in their inbox.
Have you ever pointed an IMAP client at “[Gmail]/All Mail” and asked
it to download all headers?
—Joel
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Steve Simonst...@quintile.net wrote:
TeX is available seperately - created a contrib package for it or
there is an iso (which has bitrotted a little but is still usable).
Beware: downloading it will take a long time (hours).
The last time this came up, I did
My computer died, so I'm in the market for a new one. I figure I'd
like to get back into hacking on Plan 9 so I plan to install it
beneath a VM in whatever machine I buy. I'm even considering Windows
7 Pro with Virtual PC, but I think I'd prefer Xen or one of the
Linux-based things (VirtualBox,
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Federico G. Benavento
benave...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Joel C. Salomon joelcsalo...@gmail.com
wrote:
My computer died, so I'm in the market for a new one. I figure I'd
like to get back into hacking on Plan 9 so I plan to install
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Alexander Sychev santu...@gmail.com wrote:
IFAIK, XeTeX/XeLaTeX based on C++ code.
XeTeX itself is based on patches to Knuth's WEB source code for TeX.
It's the PDF-producing section (xdvipdf or some such) that's written
using a C++ library for handling PDF.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Karljurgen Feuerherm kfeuerh...@wlu.ca wrote:
It occurred to me that a profitable thing to do here would be to mention some
things that would be nice to see in a new improved TeX... I believe
bidirectional was mentioned already.
The other thing that is
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:33 PM, LiteStar numnums lites...@gmail.com wrote:
The haiku is short a syllable on the first line, unless you pronounce it
con-fu-sed
No, it's alright as it stands; see http://9fans.net/archive/2002/07/154.
(We discuss *everything* on this list, don't we?)
—Joel
On 11/14/2010 04:44 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
the list of unimplemented items in /sys/src/cmd/cc/c99* is:
snip
i can think of something else that's not been noticed, but what other things
have you found?
Why is __func__ listed as “unwanted”? I’ve found it useful for some
logging functions.
On 11/18/2010 05:50 PM, Federico G. Benavento wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Joel C. Salomon joelcsalo...@gmail.com
wrote:
Why is __func__ listed as “unwanted”? I’ve found it useful for some
logging functions.
isn't this redundant with cpp(1)'s __FUNCTION__?
if __FUNCTION__
On 01/16/2011 03:29 PM, Jacob Todd wrote:
http://jtomaschke.blogspot.com/
snip
Input needed to be worked out, though.
That’s nothing new: http://9fans.net/archive/1995/09/281.
—Joel
On 02/14/2011 01:03 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
that doesn't really work for me. either the kernel should always print
as hex, or the decision should be made for the whole string. the \x
notation requires that any \x be excaped. you potentially need to escape
both and \. it's a difficult
On 06/17/2011 11:37 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:18:20AM -0400, Joel C. Salomon wrote:
At which point you've reinvented XeTeX.
I've given a look at it. I don't want to start a discussion about
Unicode, since, supplementary to the characters
snip
On 07/16/2011 04:02 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
What is the minimal hints the programmer shall give? At least
predicativity. I wonder what minimum set of keywords could be added,
say, to C, so that the situation can be greatly improved without the
burden being greatly increased.
On 07/17/2011 03:01 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:39:50PM -0400, Joel C. Salomon wrote:
On 07/16/2011 04:02 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
I wonder what minimum set of keywords could be added,
say, to C, so that the situation can be greatly improved
After a long hiatus, I'd like to get back to experimenting with Plan
9. I have an Ubuntu Linux laptop with AMD's virtualization extensions
supported by the CPU, so I figure my best bet is one of the umpteen
virtualization tools. Which is best supported by Plan 9 — virtualbox,
qemu, or something
On 11/22/2011 9:39 AM, Joel C. Salomon wrote:
After a long hiatus, I'd like to get back to experimenting with Plan
9. I have an Ubuntu Linux laptop with AMD's virtualization extensions
supported by the CPU, so I figure my best bet is one of the umpteen
virtualization tools. Which is best
On 11/22/2011 10:46 AM, ron minnich wrote:
If you're serious about booting a 64-bit os you need NIX. But you're
not going to get graphics.
To which, on 11/22/2011 11:00 AM, erik quanstrom responded:
today's nix is quite raw. unless you're working on nix itself,
you'll be happier with plan 9.
On 01/16/2012 08:08 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
Plan 9 doesn't use a base pointer, because everything can be addressed
relative to the stack pointer, and the loader keeps track of the SP
level. thus FP is a virtual register, that the loader implements by
replacing offsets relative to it by the
On 01/16/2012 06:46 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote:
It seems what I'm trying to say is not clear. I know that shipping Plan9
has no '-R'. What I mean is, since find(1) and others are not here
because they are duplicating other utils, and can be recreated with
other primitives, why du(1) was
On 01/16/2012 02:03 PM, Bakul Shah wrote:
On Jan 16, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Greg Comeau comeauat9f...@gmail.com wrote:
What we do in problematic cases with Comeau is to generate code to
arrange for the allocation of the VLA on the heap. I'm not saying
this is perfect, but at least it gets the
On 05/05/2012 05:06 PM, Comeau At9Fans wrote:
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
if it's performance you're worried about, for programs that don't
care about width, i'd expect 32 bits at least
to match performance with 64 bits (if there's a measurable
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Charles Forsyth
charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote:
On 31 October 2012 10:13, kali kali.m...@web.de wrote:
is it still offline ? the name doesnt even resolve.
There has been a storm, I believe.
Seems Plan 9 is after all vulnerable to a certain kind of buffer
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:19 PM, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote:
#define exit(status) do { exit(status); return 0; } while (0)
What does kenc do with a void function attempting to return 0?
—Joel
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote:
To do something similar you will have to constrain each jail
to see a subset of processes, give it its own /dev, /env etc.
Not sure how you do this.
So long as processes in the jail use /dev, /env, etc., etc., as
inherited
Has anyone presented the 9c extension typestr to the C standardization
committee (WG14)?
Looking at the documents at http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/,
I see that various vendors have let the committee know about their
extensions, both to offer directions for future standardization and to
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Charles Forsyth
charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15 March 2013 16:52, Joel C. Salomon joelcsalo...@gmail.com wrote:
BTW, the C11 standard includes a restricted form of 9c's anonymous
sub-structs (with no pointer conversion).
isn't the pointer conversion
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com wrote:
This isn't a healthy way to keep Plan 9 active. Please, in the
interest of advancing the software (or at least advancing the
knowledge of others), can we please tone the vitriol down a notch?
Agreed. I mean, I had a
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Gergő Födémesi fge...@gmail.com wrote:
Who invented ... notation in c?
I'll appreciate any hints.
I'd guess this comes from C++, along with all function prototypes.
--Joel
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Giacomo Tesio giac...@tesio.it wrote:
As far as I can read intro(5), it explicitly excludes slash as a valid
character for the Plan 9 OS, but it also explicitly states that the
protocol has no such restriction.
My reading is that a 9p2000 server might allow a
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