Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On Wed, Mar 23, 2022 at 12:00:02AM +, Stuart Morrow wrote: > > I'm aware. I meant the intended use by the people who designed it. I > wouldn't call a number pad a pointing device just because it can be > used as one. > Apologies to Ted Selker, but it's a poor tool that only functions in

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

> That scroll button nonsense is a function of the Windows driver. On all > Thinkpads the buttons present as a normal three-button mouse, with > left, middle, and right-click. Using a better operating system, or > failing to install the Trackpoint drivers, leads to normal > functionality. I'm

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:09:24PM +, Stuart Morrow wrote: > On 01/02/2022, Ben Hancock wrote: > > as well but have yet to become adept at the trackpoint. Do you find > > you're able to sweep lines as easily using it in acme as with a physical > > mouse? > > A trackpoint isn't a real

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

a trackpoint is a 2-handed chording device. clearly it's limited, but still better than any touchpad (when you are constrained to a laptop on the go) On 3/23/22, Stuart Morrow wrote: > On 01/02/2022, Ben Hancock wrote: >> as well but have yet to become adept at the trackpoint. Do you find >>

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On 01/02/2022, Ben Hancock wrote: > as well but have yet to become adept at the trackpoint. Do you find > you're able to sweep lines as easily using it in acme as with a physical > mouse? A trackpoint isn't a real three-button mouse by Acme's standards. "A real three-button mouse" is something

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

Happy user of the Contour Rollermouse Red which I use with Acme. You can use it two-handed: one hand for cursor movement and one hand for clicking. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

as a trackpoint fanatic i can tell you: no, i can't sweep as easily as with a physical mouse. but if a physical mouse is 10/10, and a smartphone is 1/10, then a touchpad is 3/10 and a trackpoint is 8/10 for my purposes. the only thing that makes this more steep is gaming: there the mouse is much

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On Tue, 1 Feb 2022, at 04:25, Ben Hancock wrote: > Do you find you're able to sweep lines as easily using it in acme as with a > physical mouse? can't really say: i'm not a heavy acme user, and i haven't had a mouse in years. shinobi does feel pretty close to a thinkpad, so you should be able

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, at 23:59, Marius Eriksen wrote: > It’s pricy, but I love the 3dconnexion CAD mouse [1]. It tracks superbly, and > the construction quality approaches Apple’s level. > > [1] https://3dconnexion.com/us/cadmouse/ I use the wireless model and agree it's an excellent mouse. The

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

It’s pricy, but I love the 3dconnexion CAD mouse [1]. It tracks superbly, and the construction quality approaches Apple’s level. [1] https://3dconnexion.com/us/cadmouse/ > > On Jan 27, 2022, at 8:57 PM, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 03:47:48PM

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

I use a big heavy trackball. Kensington pro trackball is pricey but you get four buttons and a scroll ring. Got my first one well over 10 years ago and it’s still my daily driver. I have a second wireless one on a Mac. The wired one is better overall if you can get them. The wireless one can

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 10:33:38PM +, Oleg Finkelshteyn wrote: for a little change of pace, my only desktop input device is https://tex.com.tw/products/shinobi Hey, that's neat! I've heard good things about the Shinobi on the MK forums -- I, too, am an enthusiast :) I actually own a couple

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

for a little change of pace, my only desktop input device is https://tex.com.tw/products/shinobi it's a fairly faithful recreation of https://support.lenovo.com/solutions/pd005137-thinkpad-usb-keyboard-with-trackpoint-overview but with mechanical keys and other accommodations one expects from

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022, Steve Simon wrote: search ebay for beatus mouse Thanks, it's funny the three of us were talking about the same mouse. https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Beatus-Button-Perfect-Buttons-Scroll/dp/B07CZ1B7H3/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3VAGF8O45TNZW

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I got used to... No idea about wired model, even this wireless was bought "via" my friend. Hope you'll find one. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T49f3cceea70d2b61-M9b3570dba3ca80379438cd84 Delivery options:

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fijal wrote: I'm very happy with this one: http://www.hao1885.com/products_desc.asp?id=413 That's the same I was talking about. Don't you feel annoyed when you have to wake it? Do you know where to buy the wired model? hao1885.com/products_desc.asp?id=414

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

+1 for the Evoluent Vert mouse. I got two. T On 1/27/2022 at 10:57 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote:Quoth Kurt H Maier via 9fans : > > The Evoluent VerticalMouse series has three mechanical buttons plus a > scroll wheel between buttons 1 and 2. This one is my personal favorite.

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

For over a decade I have been using the soon-discontinued Contour mouse. I have tried both the wired and the wireless versions, but the wireless version has too much latency for me, although I am particularly sensitive to latency, so YMMV. I have been using the exact same unit since I got it, it

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

I've been happy with the Microsoft Bluetooth Mobile Mouse 3600 bearing in mind that I'm using 9vx on a Dell as my terminal. I should probably see if it can be made to work on an rpi On Fri, 28 Jan 2022 at

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

I am a long term sam user and a three button mouse, but I also like the ease of navigation of a scroll wheel. I use a Beatus mouse - three real buttons and a scroll wheel on the side for your thumb. Sadly they are only made right handed and they are a little small for my hand but they are

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 08:14:44PM +1300, umbrati...@prosimetrum.com wrote: > > small ones seem to me like a pain to point, and the large ones look > > like hard to make chords with the big ball in the middle. Could you > > share your experience? > > I use a Kensington Expert which I guess falls

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I'm very happy with this one:  http://www.hao1885.com/products_desc.asp?id=413 Cheers fijal -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T49f3cceea70d2b61-Mead1ec25401f27e22d96d566 Delivery options:

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2022, umbrati...@prosimetrum.com wrote: I use a Kensington Expert which I guess falls into the big That's funny, it's the very same I was looking at. aliexpress.com/item/1005001848991454.html The scrollwheel thing is pretty nice too. Three button mice with lateral

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

Hello all, I just quickly want to share my experience, although I haven't used any real three buttons mouse in the last ten years. For my laptop system I really love the (older) IBM/lenovo trackpoint. It has three physical buttons below the keyboard and I can reach them easily with my

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

> small ones seem to me like a pain to point, and the large ones look > like hard to make chords with the big ball in the middle. Could you > share your experience? I use a Kensington Expert which I guess falls into the big ball in the middle category. Honestly, most of the time I click/chord

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Trackballs also often have more than two real buttons. umbraticus The good 3 buttons mouses are vanishing, I've been thinking on giving a try to a trackball for a while. The problem is that the small ones seem to me like a pain to point, and the large ones look like hard to make chords with the

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Sorry, yes, it's MO09BOA on mine too. Small print, old eyes. The bottom of my IBM-branded one has the same model number. -rob On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 4:16 PM Bakul Shah wrote: > Mine says MO09BOA. It has a Lenovo logo > and the scroll thingy is lighted blue. It is not > a wheel, more like a

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

Mine says MO09BOA. It has a Lenovo logo and the scroll thingy is lighted blue. It is not a wheel, more like a single axis trackpoint. > On Jan 27, 2022, at 8:47 PM, Rob Pike > wrote: > > I have one mouse still in the original unopened box, just to be safe. The >

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

Quoth o...@eigenstate.org: > Quoth Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>: > > > > The Evoluent VerticalMouse series has three mechanical buttons plus a > > scroll wheel between buttons 1 and 2. > > This one is my personal favorite. I have two of these and they're quite good, though quite

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On 1/27/22 20:47, Rob Pike wrote: I have one mouse still in the original unopened box, just to be safe. The label reads 31P7405 Lenovo Scrollpoint Mouse Model MO098OA And I have now opened it to be sure, and it is the true blue (literally) 3-button version. It is labeled Lenovo, although the

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 03:47:48PM +1100, Rob Pike wrote: > I have one mouse still in the original unopened box, just to be safe. The > label reads > > 31P7405 Lenovo Scrollpoint Mouse Model MO098OA > > And I have now opened it to be sure, and it is the true blue (literally) > 3-button version.

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

Quoth Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>: > > The Evoluent VerticalMouse series has three mechanical buttons plus a > scroll wheel between buttons 1 and 2. This one is my personal favorite. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

Trackballs also often have more than two real buttons. umbraticus -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T49f3cceea70d2b61-Mba1f4f1caaa4c6c3a0189de1 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

I have one mouse still in the original unopened box, just to be safe. The label reads 31P7405 Lenovo Scrollpoint Mouse Model MO098OA And I have now opened it to be sure, and it is the true blue (literally) 3-button version. It is labeled Lenovo, although the ones I use are all labeled IBM. -rob

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 08:39:09PM -0800, Kurt H Maier via 9fans wrote: > The Scrollpoint Rob mentioned was made > with both IBM and Lenovo branding, and was also available in a sculpted > Pro model with a thumb-actuated fourth button. I should specify: the Scrollpoint mouse technically only has

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 07:48:15PM -0800, Ben Hancock wrote: > Hi all, > > Acme has become my main text editor and I'm in the market for a good > mouse with a decent middle click (i.e. B2). If product recommendations > aren't eschewed on the list, would fellow acme and/or sam users be >

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

HP DY651A, e.g. https://www.ebay.com/itm/234392830458 I bought three of them some ten years ago, and they are still working perfectly. It seems the model is no longer in production. The original price was very low. I seem to recall it was also sold as an IBM mouse. Mark.

Re: [9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

My daily mouse is a Logitech 3-button mouse plugged into a PS2-USB adapter. Obviously they're not making them anymore but I've managed to acquire a bunch over the years. It's sturdy and works fine. https://www.ebay.com/itm/384628597228 john Original Message On Jan 27, 2022,

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LENOVO SCROLLPOINT MOUSE - USB. I have a few of them. None of mine have ever broken or needed maintenance. Not sure they're made any more, and the IBM logo on this: https://www.exxactcorp.com/Lenovo-31P7405-E1272118 may be indicative, but I've been using mine for 20+ years with great

[9fans] acme and sam - mouse suggestions?

Hi all, Acme has become my main text editor and I'm in the market for a good mouse with a decent middle click (i.e. B2). If product recommendations aren't eschewed on the list, would fellow acme and/or sam users be willing to share some mice suggestions? There seem to be a real dearth of