Re: [abcusers] Announce: new version of Five Line Skink

2002-06-05 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Wil Macaulay wrote: Version 1.0a4 of Five Line Skink is available - link from http://www.geocities.com/w_macaulay/abc4mac.html I tried it out, and obviously there are quite a few things missing, but you're aware of that... In general I like the look-n-feel and the design

Re: [abcusers] Announce: new version of Five Line Skink

2002-06-05 Thread Wil Macaulay
Thanks Atte. Just out of interest, what platform are you running it on? As to freeware vs. shareware, I see benefits and drawbacks on both sides. No matter what, there will be a version of Skink that will be free, but there may be versions with 'advanced' features (table of contents?

Re: [abcusers] Announce: new version of Five Line Skink

2002-06-05 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Wil Macaulay wrote: Thanks Atte. Just out of interest, what platform are you running it on? Linux Mandrake 8.0. It worked perfectly right out of the box, although it took me some time to figure out how to install Java... As to freeware vs. shareware, I see benefits and

Re: [abcusers] Announce: new version of Five Line Skink

2002-06-05 Thread Wil Macaulay
Any interest in having Skink as a 'front end' for a command-line tool? in other words, use Skink to enter, proof read and proof-listen, and then invoke abcxxps for final output? wil Atte Andre Jensen wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Wil Macaulay wrote: Thanks Atte. Just out of interest, what

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread Phil Taylor
Ulf wrote: My conclusion: abc is good for people who (1) are very experienced in the use of a computer, (2) who can do the necessary intellectual abstractions in their mind and type in the tune at the same time (3) who use sheet music - both reading and writing, and who write a lot of musical

Re: [abcusers] Announce: new version of Five Line Skink

2002-06-05 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Wil Macaulay wrote: Any interest in having Skink as a 'front end' for a command-line tool? in other words, use Skink to enter, proof read and proof-listen, and then invoke abcxxps for final output? I thought about mentioning that, but didn't dare :-) But since you ask:

Re: [abcusers] Announce: new version of Five Line Skink

2002-06-05 Thread Don Whitener
Absolutely! That would be neat! Jaabc2ps is my converter of choice. It is the only one that I know of that will produce tin whistle tablature, a feature that I find most useful at times. It will do this for any key of whistle, independent of the key of the tune, if desired. Regards, Don

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-05 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Again, I think you guys might be misunderstanding what I was complaining about. The length of a whole line can essentially be stretched out by adjusting the scaling of the PDF image before you print it. But the spacing between notes within a measure is what appears cramped to me. This is also

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
IMHO I think abc is an excellent, efficient means of transporting tunes. That seems like what you were all after in the beginning. And it is a refreshing change from the multi-megabyte, bloated files for other things in the wintel world! Phil Taylor wrote: Ulf wrote: My conclusion: abc

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-05 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Don Parrish-Bell wrote: Again, I think you guys might be misunderstanding what I was complaining about. The length of a whole line can essentially be stretched out by adjusting the scaling of the PDF image before you print it. I think you are misunderstanding us :-)

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-05 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Ok, Atte. I will check that out when I get to it. So it's possible to adjust existing abc tunes without major rewrites? A more global way of setting up the note-to-note spacing? Don Atte Andre Jensen wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Don Parrish-Bell wrote: Again, I think you guys might be

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-05 Thread Buddha Buck
At 11:03 AM 06-05-2002 -0700, Don Parrish-Bell you wrote: Ok, Atte. I will check that out when I get to it. So it's possible to adjust existing abc tunes without major rewrites? A more global way of setting up the note-to-note spacing? abc has absolutely nothing to do with internote spacing

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-05 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
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[abcusers] RE : reasons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread Forgeot Eric
I stated on my homepage (in french) the pros and cons (in my opinion) for abc : - Only one whole file for a collection of tunes (unlike midi...) - quick to download (due to compactness (see above) and size) (but you know all that) - quite easy to transcribe (if one can a bit music) and really

[abcusers] RE : Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-05 Thread Forgeot Eric
I have downloaded various things and used abc2Win and whatever behind the scenes tool that runs on one of the sites to create printable sheet music. The minor complaint that I have is that the measures seem to be awefully cramped together. try using a program supporting postscript, like abc2ps

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
JC's tune finder is magic. For instance I was at the last M27 Megabop which Rufus Returns played at. They played one number I really liked but I was unable to learn it there and then (no Mozart, I). I went to Chipenham Folk Festival last weekend and someone played it in the English Session in

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-05 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Don Parrish-Bell wrote: Ok, Atte. I will check that out when I get to it. So it's possible to adjust existing abc tunes without major rewrites? Yep :-) A more global way of setting up the note-to-note spacing? Basically the abc file contains no information about

Re: [abcusers] RE : reasons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread Atte Andre Jensen
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Forgeot Eric wrote: - an ambiguous name (there is many thinks not related to music with abc in it, so it gives bad clues in websearch : lilypond or mup are unique and more original names (I guess)) google, with abc and notation seems to be enough:

Re: [abcusers] Some minor complaints about abc

2002-06-05 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
I just realized that a big part of the problem was that we had downloaded a bunch of tunes in GIF format ... thus the low-res of some of them. But even the spacing in some of the PDF's I've downloaded is a bit tight. Overall, though, I'm amazed at how well abc and its conversion tools work.

[abcusers] Re: resons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread Bryancreer
Laurie Griffiths said - I went to Chipenham Folk Festival last weekend and someone played it in the English Session in the Rose and Crown barn. I asked what it was called (The Dark Girl Dressed in Blue) and I now have about 10 different versions of it. Magic. Yes, great tune and great

[abcusers] multivoice and multiparts

2002-06-05 Thread Forgeot Eric
Could it be possible to have a mix of the multivoice and parts features ? I enjoy the possibility in musical programs like trackers to made on one side all the musical part, and in an other how they play together : I would be usefull in abc for complex musical parts X:1 T:multivoice and

Re: [abcusers] P: Field

2002-06-05 Thread Jack Campin
It would look damn silly to have Scherzo or other section marker repeated in every single voice; you can't use Scherzo to control part order - you've got to use 'A'..'Z' as specified in the standard which you quote above. That's a limitation which should have been fixed long ago. One of the

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-05 Thread John Chambers
Laurie writes: | JC's tune finder is magic. | | For instance I was at the last M27 Megabop which Rufus Returns played at. | They played one number I really liked but I was unable to learn it there and | then (no Mozart, I). I went to Chipenham Folk Festival last weekend and | someone played it