Re: [abcusers] Floating voices

2003-08-02 Thread Forgeot Eric
Sorry to disagree here but if you wish to add long barlines between group of staves, I'd suggest to use a different symbol than | . In the way how abcm2ps presently works, I didn't find a pb using | to separate staves, but now it seems a bit strange to use | which means separation (separation of

Re: [abcusers] Floating voices

2003-08-02 Thread Phil Taylor
Wil Macauley wrote: Given Bernard's statement, and that we are proposing incompatibilities anyway, I would propose that you only use a line if you _DO_ want barlines between staves. In other words, the default is not to join staves, but you can put a line between if you want barlines. That's

Re: [abcusers] (uffa) Standards vs. quality...

2003-08-02 Thread Phil Taylor
Guido Gonzato wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: I tested it also with: ...abcMus, abacus, muse, skink and barFly; then I gave up. none of which nears abcm2ps when it comes to printed output quality. I don't think any of those programs claim to produce publication- quality

Re: [abcusers] w: stuff \

2003-08-02 Thread Phil Taylor
John Chambers wrote: Yeah; jcabc2ps implements the simple-minded continued on next line scheme from the new proposed standard. Here's how it would work: X:1 T:TEST:Shenei Zeitim M:4/4 K:C G|G2G2A4|(FEF) D (A2G) G|\ [M:4/4] [K:C] c2c2(B2c2)|(f2e2)e2d G| w:She-nei zei-tim nich-__ra-tim_ \

Re: [abcusers] Floating voices

2003-08-02 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Webber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..The only regular place that barlines *are* drawn through is in keyboard work. This is not true. On orchestral and band scores barlines are commonly drawn through on groups of staves

Re: [abcusers] Floating voices

2003-08-02 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I. Oppenheim writes: | On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Wil Macaulay wrote: | | Given Bernard's statement, and that we are proposing | incompatibilities anyway, I would propose that you | only use a line if you _DO_ want barlines between |

Re: [abcusers] Parenthesis?/Al Coda?

2003-08-02 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With abcm2ps, how do I put a specific note in parenthesis? ( ) C Irwin, this has come up before and doesn't work as you expect - you get ( above ) rather than a parenthesis either side of the note (with 3.3.1 that I'm using). This has since

[abcusers] explicit signatures

2003-08-02 Thread Jack Campin
They are non standard in Western music, but you will find something like [K:D _b _e ^f] often in e.g. Klezmer (Ahavoh Rabboh) or Arabic music (Maqam Hedjaz). My first thing will always be to remove any non standard explicit accidentals, replacing them with inline accidentals and inform the

[abcusers] octave-sensitive key signatures

2003-08-02 Thread Jack Campin
In most cases, musicians will be following the rule that accidentals apply in all octaves, so for them it doesn't matter where the key-sig accidentals are drawn. You seem to forget that ABC players also should be able to make sense of the notation. I suggest the following: 1) [K:D exp

Re: [abcusers] expandable information field

2003-08-02 Thread Jack Campin
(I'm going to be away for a week, OS 1:5 sheet 48 302241, a mile off the nearest road with no modem). Take plenty of Jungle Formula. I hear the midgies are especially ferocious this year! Hardly saw a midge the first couple of days. Then I tried playing the flute outside at the end of

[abcusers] chords accidental semantics

2003-08-02 Thread Jack Campin
Below I will outline the most recent changes that I incorporated in the ABC draft standard, based on your input. - Changed Accomp. Chords to Chord Symbols - Added: programs should treat chord symbols quite liberately Some player programs interpret these. They aren't generating symbols,

Re: [abcusers] Parenthesis?/Al Coda?

2003-08-02 Thread MCPearce0
Subj: Re: [abcusers] Parenthesis?/"Al Coda"?  Date: 02/08/2003 23:17:11 GMT Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent from the Internet (Details) On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "(" ")" C Irwin, this

Re: [abcusers] octave-sensitive key signatures

2003-08-02 Thread John Chambers
Jack Campin writes: | | Here's a toughie, though. In some of the folk idioms of Georgia, | there is no octave-based scale: the music uses stacked major | tetrachords instead - | |C D E F | F G A _B | _B c d _e | | and so on (since this is vocal music,

Re: [abcusers] expandable information field

2003-08-02 Thread John Chambers
Jack Campin writes: | Take plenty of Jungle Formula. I hear the midgies are | especially ferocious this year! | | Hardly saw a midge the first couple of days. Then I tried playing | the flute outside at the end of the house around midnight, looking | across to the lights of Iona. Within a

Re: [abcusers] chords accidental semantics

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Robinson
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 12:44:28AM +0100, Jack Campin wrote: And it's a bit confusing to call these accidentals when they are in fact systematic (I'm not sure what the correct term is and don't have a reference handy to locate it, but I'm sure there is one).

Re: [abcusers] expandable information field

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Robinson
On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 12:46:07AM +0100, Jack Campin wrote: (I'm going to be away for a week, OS 1:5 sheet 48 302241, a mile off the nearest road with no modem). Take plenty of Jungle Formula. I hear the midgies are especially ferocious this year! Hardly saw a midge the first