Re: [abcusers] Lilypond to ABC converter

2004-11-25 Thread Laura Conrad
Luis == Luis Pablo Gasparotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Luis Is there anybody working on a Lilypond to ABC converter? Why would you want to go that way? Just write it in ABC in the first place. Then use the abc to lilypond converter if you want to add some of the information that

[abcusers] [Han-Wen Nienhuys] LilyPond 2.4.0 released

2004-10-30 Thread Laura Conrad
LilyPond version 2.4 was released today! LilyPond is a program for making beautiful music notation. It is open source/free software, and is available for all popular operating systems. It runs on most Unix flavors --including Linux and MacOS X-- and MS Windows. Use it for your music too!

[abcusers] LilyPond 2.2.0 released

2004-04-06 Thread Laura Conrad
This is really from Jan Nieuwenhuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED], who asked me to forward it here. Dear music enthousiasts, LilyPond is a program for making beautiful music notation. It is free/open source software, and is available for all popular operating systems. It runs on most Unix flavors

Re: [abcusers] ABC and MusicXML

2004-03-27 Thread Laura Conrad
Jack == Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack It would be, but it would throw away many of the distinctive Jack things ABC can express. For eample, look at the pibroch Jack example in my modes tutorial. I put the canntaireachd form Jack of the music at the right margin as

Re: [abcusers] unfolding og repeats

2004-01-25 Thread Laura Conrad
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil If you really want to do this you'll have to write a (fairly basic) Phil abc parser. Maybe the abc2abc program that comes with the ABCMIDI package could be modified fairly easily? -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,

Re: [abcusers] unfolding og repeats

2004-01-13 Thread Laura Conrad
Atte == Atte Andr Atte writes: Atte Is there any (pref. linux-based, commandline and open-source) Atte software outthere that will unfold repeats? Abc2midi does it, so I guess if you can run abc2midi and then midi2abc, you have abc with the repeats unfolded. Probably not the answer

Re: [abcusers] Re: mup

2003-10-14 Thread Laura Conrad
David == DavBarnert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David pdf). The problem with compatibility with abc for this format David (and I believe all the others) is support for modes. I don't think David any of the other formats know the difference between C major and A David minor.

Re: [abcusers] New notation fonts for abc2ps (and variants)?

2003-09-06 Thread Laura Conrad
David == dcuny David writes: David If someone could suggest a good source of example notation David (other than Sigler's), that would be helpful. Look at the feta and parmesan fonts in lilypond http://www.lilypond.org. And whatever they do for fonts in MusiXTeX. -- Laura

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-15 Thread Laura Conrad
Jeff == Jeff Bigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeff I hesitate to open this can of worms, but perhaps the standard could Jeff separate commands into: Jeff %%display command Jeff command is intended for all applications that display music. Jeff %%play command Jeff

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Basically, I think the original abc2mtex model was a good Richard and helpful way to look at it - go through the file Richard replacing each individual tune with something that a Richard typesetter can treat as a

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Laura Conrad
Irwin == I Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Irwin Application that operate on the level of individual Irwin tunes, can better ignore it. Are you assuming that all tunes fit on one page? If not, it seems like one very well might need %%newpage or some such within a tune. -- Laura

Re: [abcusers] bass clef and transposition

2003-08-14 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John You can use middle=NOTE (or just m=NOTE) to say what abc note you John want to appear on the middle staff line. If you're going to allow specification of non-five-line staffs, you might want to say 'line or space' here. For

Re: [abcusers] Page break formatting

2003-08-14 Thread Laura Conrad
I == I Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I Unless an application can handle a complete tunebook in I a well-defined way, you will never be sure how I individual tunes will be formatted on the page, and I consequently you won't know what the right position I will be to

Re: [abcusers] man

2003-08-14 Thread Laura Conrad
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil More's the point, how could I have discovered the existence Phil of col for myself? I would have guessed man -k backspace might do it for you, but it doesn't on my LINUX system. man -k filter does come up with both col and colcrt.

[abcusers] [Han-Wen Nienhuys hanwen@cs.uu.nl] LilyPond 1.8 - make beautiful music prints

2003-08-10 Thread Laura Conrad
Forwarded fForwarded from the lilypond-info list: LilyPond is an automated music engraving system: it is used to make gorgeous sheet music. Use it for your music too! Information, examples and documentation are available from the completely redesigned website, which is at

Re: [abcusers] mensurstriche

2003-08-04 Thread Laura Conrad
Jack == Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack BTW, how well do existing ABC applications handle pieces Jack where the voices are not all barred the same? For single-voice music, most of them used to be pretty good. For multi-voice music, it varies -- abcm2ps used to be the worst

Re: [abcusers] mensurstriche

2003-08-04 Thread Laura Conrad
Anders == Anders Wiren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anders We have invisible barline [|] and we can specify draw Anders barlines between staves. So if we can do both of these at once, with the barline on the staff invisible, and the one between it visible, we have what I'm talking about.

[abcusers] mensurstriche

2003-08-01 Thread Laura Conrad
I haven't read the new standard about multiple staves, but does it allow specification of bar's *between* the staves but *not* on them? This is something a lot of people (not me) like for early music that was originally published as unbarred parts. It's usually easier for modern players to

Re: [abcusers] ABC standard changelog

2003-07-31 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John I. Oppenheim writes: John | John | %%propagate-accidentals 0 | 1 John | John | When set to 0, accidentals apply only to the note they're attached to. John | When set to 1, accidentals also apply to all the notes of the

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-31 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Though, yes, the use of the existing %%midi namespace Richard would be a clue - helpful in general (since it gives a Richard rough idea of what sort of work it does) and misleading Richard in particular (since, as

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-31 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Ah. Interesting, yes. Also, come to think of it, ny Richard abc_compare, which borrowed the abcMIDI parser, to unroll Richard ABC into a stream of notes. Does abc2ly also unroll Richard repeats, etc ? Optionally.

Re: [abcusers] Revising the ABC standard.

2003-07-31 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Increasingly, I begin to wonder if this should be seen as Richard a fork. I've been arguing the toss over a lot of these Richard new proposals, on the grounds that they might as well be Richard done right if at all,

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-30 Thread Laura Conrad
I notice that the clefs section uses only a small number of arbitrary names, and doesn't allow for specifying shapes on lines. I think you should also allow: G1, G2,...G5 F1, F2,...F5 C1, C2,...C5 Or at least, make C, G, and F names as well as treble, alto, etc. For the

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-30 Thread Laura Conrad
I don't see any discussion of the relationship between accidentals and barlines. This is important, because in order to translate ABC, which records the appearance of a note in staff notation, into, e.g., MIDI or lilypond, which records the absolute pitch of the note, you need to know how long

Re: [abcusers] Higher notation anyone?

2003-07-30 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John (I do think abc could use some competition, though. When are we going John to see some big Lilypond or MusicML web sites?) Mine's a pretty big Lilypond web site. There are pointers to a couple of others on the lilypond page. In

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-30 Thread Laura Conrad
Wil == Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wil Do we lose anything if we couple this to M:none? or do we Wil need to be able to specify Wil both a meter (M:C comes to mind) and separately the behaviour of Wil accidentals? Yes. Not having barlines is very different from not

Re: [abcusers] ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-30 Thread Laura Conrad
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not having barlines is very different from not having a meter. Most Renaissance tunes have a meter of C, C|, 3/2 or something, but they either didn't use barlines at all or used them for something very different from telling you

Re: [abcusers]ABC Standard 2.0 revision III

2003-07-29 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Next you'll be telling us that Britney Spears is a musician ... Does she follow standards? -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 To

Re: [abcusers] multivoice linecontinuation

2003-07-23 Thread Laura Conrad
Arent == Arent Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, when using abc to store complex scores, I think that human readablity is of very small importance, if at all; it will be uncomprehensable anyway. Not all multivoice scores are impossible to read. Jack Campin

Re: [abcusers] multivoice linecontinuation

2003-07-23 Thread Laura Conrad
Arent == Arent Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Irwin % variant A Irwin G2G2A4 | (FEF) D (A2G) G|\ Irwin M:4/4 Irwin K:C Irwin c2c2(B2c2) | I think this is actually an example of a recommended syntax in some pretty widespread documentation. (Probably something that

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Which reminded me of abc2ly. I looked at that once and Richard found it wouldn't deal with large amounts of my abc Why not? If it's the one tune per run limitation, abcselect will deal with that for you. Richard ...

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard No, it wasn't that, just the problem of variant Richard dialects. The last time I tried it (a couple of days ago, Richard after the mention in uc.o.l reminded me of it) I hit a Richard tune I'd just typed up which

Re: [abcusers] multivoice linecontinuation

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Irwin == I Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Irwin % variant A Irwin G2G2A4 | (FEF) D (A2G) G|\ Irwin M:4/4 Irwin K:C Irwin c2c2(B2c2) | I think this is actually an example of a recommended syntax in some pretty widespread documentation. (Probably

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you send me that file? I thought I had that fixed Richard You probably have - it's just the same old much-argued missing Richard start-repeat at the beginning of the opening bar. Some ABC apps Richard complain, as

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard I notice it prints without title or other text. You must be using lilypond-book? If you use the standard ly2dvi, it prints the Title and Composer. Richard I'm sure this is configurable, I wonder where ... There's a lot

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Irwin == I Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Irwin When I tried one my tunes, I got this output: Irwin Irwin abc2ly from LilyPond 1.6.10 Irwin Parsing `shnei.abc'... Irwin Line ... shnei.abc: 21: Huh? Don't understand Irwin G|G2G2A4|(FEF) D (A2G)

Re: [abcusers] Re: continuations

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil Er, why would you want to put a space in place of the backslash? Phil Joining the two lines without a separator seems the logical Phil thing to do (or at least I can't immediately think of a situation Phil where adding a space

Re: [abcusers] abc2win vs. ABC...

2003-07-16 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah, but I didn't mean TeX formatting of the musical notation. I meant, how to get typesetting of text that surrounds abc, how to handle the mixing of text and tunes - placing abc tunes on a sheet of paper along with

Re: [abcusers] abc2win vs. ABC...

2003-07-16 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard What I do is take all the text out of the abc tune, use Richard the usual abc2ps suspects to generate an eps of the bare Richard tune (with no text), have LaTeX set the title and any Richard other abc-tune text

Re: [abcusers] !nobreak!

2003-07-11 Thread Laura Conrad
Irwin == I Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Irwin Maybe you can comment on how the !nobreak! command is Irwin implemented in lilypond, where you found it useful? Lilypond translates the lilypond input format into TeX, so it's implemented via the TeX line-breaking algorithm. This is

Re: [abcusers] !nobreak!

2003-07-11 Thread Laura Conrad
Laura == Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Either way the programming's gonna get messy. Laura Programming a good linebreaking algorithm is indeed messy. Which is why the authors of lilypond and MusixTeX decided to let Donald Knuth do it for them. Unfortunately, this raises

Re: Kind of solved (Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics

2003-07-11 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John And I've wondered whether cedille and ogonek are actually John two different things, or just different artistic John representations of the same mark. I know that you see a John variety of such tails in the languages that use

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-09 Thread Laura Conrad
Bernard == Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bernard But why would you want to put :: at the end of the tune Bernard when :| is correct notation? Do you really want to see a Bernard repeat-both-ways barline at the end? I think not. In modern notation you wouldn't, but if you

Re: [abcusers] Skink

2003-07-09 Thread Laura Conrad
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil That doesn't work in BarFly either. The alignment is Phil disrupted because bar lines in the lyric are treated as Phil words. Also because neither the program nor I knows what \- Phil means. (It's not one of the TeX escape

Re: [abcusers] Yacc and lex

2003-07-08 Thread Laura Conrad
Wil == Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wil Why isn't anybody else using Java?   Have you tried convincing people without a fast net connection to download it? If they force Microsoft to install it, probably everybody will start using it. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,

Re: [abcusers] Yacc and lex

2003-07-08 Thread Laura Conrad
Wil == Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wil I disagree, but maybe I have a different idea of 'realistic Wil size'.  I'd be interested to see what your opinion would be Wil of Skink. I like Skink a lot, but I have yet to convince any of my friends to install it. It seems like

Re: [abcusers] Solution for ! notation?

2003-07-04 Thread Laura Conrad
Jeff == Jeff Bigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeff I would find it particularly useful to have an explicit Jeff linebreak command that would override the continue all line Jeff ends (append '\') option to the abc2ps-like programs. Jeff Usually, I want the program to just decide

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Laura Conrad
Bernard == Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Umm. Even if you only write in Spanish, French, German, Danish, Richard Norwegian, Swedish ... you're going to want non-127 accented Richard characters. If you don't write lyrics you'll want them for a tune Richard title.

Re: Kind of solved ([abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps))

2003-07-03 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John One thing I can see missing right now is the cedille that John Romanian and Polish use on some letters other than C. I John suppose the obvious notation for this would be \,s and \,t. It's called an ogonek (in Polish, anyway),

Re: [abcusers] abc standard and application-dependence

2003-07-02 Thread Laura Conrad
Bernard == Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bernard Maybe we need a register of accepted application names/codes. There is one on the sourceforge ABC site. It seems to be down at the moment, so I can't post an exact URL. I want to echo some comments made by other members of the

Re: [abcusers] abc standard and application-dependence

2003-07-02 Thread Laura Conrad
Laura == Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laura There is one on the sourceforge ABC site. It seems to be Laura down at the moment, so I can't post an exact URL. It's back up: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/abc/src/standard/pp_directives.txt?rev=HEADcontent-type

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Laura Conrad
Bernard == Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bernard But this avoids the question of what *is* the character Bernard set? For the Americans £ (pound!) and Euro are extended Bernard characters yet of course for a European accented Bernard characters of all sorts are right

Re: [abcusers] Fwd: abc and microtonality

2003-06-24 Thread Laura Conrad
Irwin == I Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Irwin On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Phil Taylor wrote: That is not a good idea. Several of these letters (THLMPSO?) have already a predefined meaning. It would be better to leave these letters free. Irwin Let me make myself more

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-17 Thread Laura Conrad
Composer name If I say in my ABC: C: Laura Conrad (c) 2003 it's not going to print that way. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http

Re: [abcusers] abc repository similiar to olga.net?

2003-03-04 Thread Laura Conrad
Steve == Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone thought of compiling a centralized database of abc tunes similar to olga.net.. Steve /discussion Steve But I've still not heard anything that makes me think that Steve this sort of centralised abc database has

Re: [abcusers] musical terms

2003-01-14 Thread Laura Conrad
Guido == Guido Gonzato [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guido I'm writing stuff and I need the help of French and German Guido speaking people. I want to write a table where the main Guido musical terms are listed in four languages: Italian, Guido English, French, and German. Spanish

Re: [abcusers] ABC for Linux

2003-01-05 Thread Laura Conrad
Paulo == Paulo Eleutério Tibúrcio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paulo Skink Paulo http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/7088/abc4mac.html Paulo Allows you to edit, view and play ABC 1.6. I Paulo couldn't get it to read more complex ABCs. I hope you sent bug

Re: [abcusers] The symbol and abc2midi

2002-11-02 Thread Laura Conrad
Frank == Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frank But there's a problem with abc2midi's peculiar way of interpreting Frank -dotted notation. Frank I think somebody mentioned a way around this some time Frank ago. Does anybody remember how it was done? I've been just

Re: [abcusers] RE: Explicit key signatures

2002-07-31 Thread Laura Conrad
Bruce == Bruce Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce I've looked at ABCs of some tunes among the broadside Bruce ballad ones on my website. They sure liked accidentals in Bruce the 17th century. That's because they weren't really thinking in key signatures the way we are. At the

Skink sound (was Re: [abcusers] re : Abacus 1.0.0 launch)

2002-07-30 Thread Laura Conrad
Eric == Forgeot Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric I think Skink can be a good program to quick glance throughout Eric some tunes (to find a nice one to play/study for example), so sad Eric it still has problem with the sound, Have you tried the latest version (that just came out

Re: [abcusers] ABC software in reference libraries

2002-07-24 Thread Laura Conrad
Wil == Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wil I was thinking of anything else that might be on the public-access terminal... Wil wil I agree that a crippleware version of Skink might be a good display (and play) only ABC program. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,

Re: [abcusers] ANNOUNCE: version 1.0b2 of Five Line Skink

2002-07-24 Thread Laura Conrad
Wil == Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wil Version 1.0b2 July 19 2002 Wil New Features and Bugfixes Wil - continuous display while entering tunes This makes it a really exciting addition to the ABC armory. It's the first thing I've tried that makes editing the underlay for

Re: [abcusers] ABC software in reference libraries

2002-07-23 Thread Laura Conrad
Wil == Wil Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wil I'd be happy to let Skink be used for that purpose - it will directly open Wil a URL (use the Fetch menu selection from the File menu). It is, however, Wil a reasonably fully-featured text editor, so would it be necessary or Wil

Re: [abcusers] ABC on a PDA

2002-07-10 Thread Laura Conrad
Atte == Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Atte http://www.biff.org.uk/dave/abc.html I've never managed to find a real ABC file that that one can parse. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge,

Re: [abcusers] ABC on a PDA

2002-07-07 Thread Laura Conrad
Frank == Frank Nordberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Atte By now I'm almost error free when typing notes, so I don't Atte need any of the two available palm abcs. Which is the other one? Atte This works quite well, although I don't do symphonies that Atte way... I'm

Re: [abcusers] ABC on a PDA

2002-07-04 Thread Laura Conrad
Guido == Guido Gonzato [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guido I've transcribed some short tunes with my Palm. I'm using PalmABC without an Guido external keyboard, and IMHO it's simply a pain. It's *very* slow, compared Guido to a real keyboard. I have tried to come up with some ideas, but

Re: [abcusers] unsubscribe

2002-07-04 Thread Laura Conrad
Dave == Dave Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave This illustrates the point that putting all your list-maintainers in one Dave basket is a bad idea. How about sharing the role, or having a deputy Dave list-maintainer? Or putting the list on some software that does the routine

Re: [abcusers] ABC on a PDA

2002-07-04 Thread Laura Conrad
Atte == Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Atte What I do with my palm and abc is just type ahead in a memo, no headers or Atte fancy stuff, just notes. Then I import (copy/paste) from j-pilot to emacs Atte in my default-header'ed document. By now I'm almost error free

Re: [abcusers] Intergalactic naming conventions.

2002-07-03 Thread Laura Conrad
laurie == laurie griffiths Laurie writes: laurie I'd better wait and see what Jack and Phil say - but there seem to me to be laurie many Scotsmen that consider their variant of English a separate language laurie (some of Burns poetry can be pretty impenetrable to us English).

[abcusers] ABC on a PDA

2002-07-03 Thread Laura Conrad
We're having a heat wave here in New England, and I'm toying with the idea of taking a facsimile and my Visor and the Stowaway Keyboard to an air conditioned place this afternoon and hanging out and transcribing music. Has anyone done this, and do they have any tips for getting used to typing

Re: [abcusers] mode and transposition

2002-06-23 Thread Laura Conrad
Jack == Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Currently, the abc2midi transposer only understands the key signature. So if I have a piece in D dorian, and I transpose it up 3 half notes, the transposed output is in Ab. It should be in F dorian. This is an inevitable

Re: [abcusers] iabc, and features expected in softwares in general

2002-06-22 Thread Laura Conrad
laurie == laurie griffiths Laurie writes: laurie Why does transposition need to understand the mode? Currently, the abc2midi transposer only understands the key signature. So if I have a piece in D dorian, and I transpose it up 3 half notes, the transposed output is in Ab. It should be

Re: [abcusers] Antialiasing

2002-06-15 Thread Laura Conrad
Rick == Rick Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rick For Linux, the latest Netscape I could get (the last time I Rick checked) was 4.51 or something like that, and I don't think Rick it does PNG yet. I think it does; I think all Netscape 4.x does png. I'm running 4.73, and it

Re: [abcusers] Embro, Embro CD-ROM

2002-06-12 Thread Laura Conrad
Atte == Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (ABC, GIF, and QuickTime formats) Atte Wouldn't pdf be a nice format? IMO better than gif. You could offer both. Given he's also providing the ABC, you can produce any format you like. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ,

Re: [abcusers] re : page layout in abcm2ps

2002-06-12 Thread Laura Conrad
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil Most users will know what size of paper they print on (A4 or US Letter Phil in the vast majority of cases). They can be asked to specify their Phil margin sizes (or you could just assume one inch all round, which is Phil big

Re: [abcusers] resons for using abc

2002-06-04 Thread Laura Conrad
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil The only faster way to get music into a computer is to play it on Phil a midi keyboard, and even then you are usually going to have to Phil do a lot of post entry editing. The people I know who claim to be really fast in Finale use

Re: [abcusers] re re : slurs and ties

2002-05-30 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John (Hey. Laura; does LilyPond distinguish all these? Just curious.) Yes: Tie: a ~ a slur: a () a phrasing slur: a \(\) a The documentation says:

Re: [abcusers] The F F (and F F2) problems

2002-05-26 Thread Laura Conrad
James == James Allwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James The inconsistency is deliberate. The point is that when you play a James hornpipe or anything else with dotted rhythm (or swing, or whatever James you want to call it), keeping a 3:1 ratio is rather harder than James

Re: [abcusers] Percussion notation...

2002-05-25 Thread Laura Conrad
Atte == Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Atte On Sat, 25 May 2002, Laurie (ukonline) wrote: Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wroteI don't care how my abc playes, and looking back on the descussion about ^f-|f a couple of months ago obviously abc2midi is only to

Re: [abcusers] Percussion notation...

2002-05-25 Thread Laura Conrad
Atte == Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Atte I even ran lily (prior to knowing about your stuff) but the Atte wildly hacking of Han-Wen, and the resulting unstability of Atte the language made me put that on hold. I understand the feeling. I have been sticking with the

Re: [abcusers] The F F (and F F2) problems

2002-05-25 Thread Laura Conrad
Phil == Phil Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil Laura wrote: abc2ly enables you to get both printed and played music from abc. I haven't fixed the ^F-|F problem yet, although it's on my list, but it certainly doesn't have the F F problem. Phil What's the F F

Re: [abcusers] No more spam

2002-05-19 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Can we get a list of sites where music-related lists might be happier John than at yahoo? I have a mailman mailing list server running on my home computer that's been working well for the lists of several organizations I belong to.

Re: [abcusers] No more spam

2002-05-19 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Can we get a list of sites where music-related lists might be happier John than at yahoo? And I should also mention that we can have as many mailing lists as we want at the Sourceforge site, as long as they're vaguely related to a

Re: [abcusers] Extended Repeats

2002-04-26 Thread Laura Conrad
Ewan == Ewan A Macpherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ewan I guess I don't understand why there's a problem with endings of Ewan different lengths. Why do you need to mark the end of [2 here? Once Ewan past the :|, the player will just keep on going regardless, no? But a

Re: [abcusers] jazz-songbook in abcformat

2002-04-24 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John The don't tell anybody is accurate. Your clique will want to keep John its URLs a secret. This is mostly to keep the search sites from John finding your stuff and advertising it to the world. There's something else you

Re: [abcusers] from ABC to image

2002-04-23 Thread Laura Conrad
Alberto == Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alberto Is there any tool to convert abc document into an image? I was using Alberto abcm2ps, but when music is too big, it generates two images. I struggled with this when I was doing the Morley canzonets for two

Re: [abcusers] Wanted: a good strathspey for fiddle in Bb

2002-04-16 Thread Laura Conrad
Laurie == laurie griffiths Laurie writes: Laurie I need a good strathspey to play on the fiddle in the key of B flat major. Laurie Any suggestions? Transpose whatever strathspey you like into the key of Bb? -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617)

Re: [abcusers] Palm Pilot advice please

2002-03-11 Thread Laura Conrad
Steve == Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve Anyone got any suggestions as to either (a) where my enquirer might Steve find the pipe symbol or (b) how else they might get round this? If I did have to type ABC without a |, I would use some other character that doesn't get

Re: [abcusers] Re: Folkband

2002-03-01 Thread Laura Conrad
Laurie == Laurie Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laurie Also I was young and pitifully innocent and missed almost Laurie all of the dirty jokes. That was my problem; we did read 12th night, but I missed the dirty jokes. As well as all the stuff about dancing. -- Laura

Re: [abcusers] Playing through sound card

2002-02-06 Thread Laura Conrad
Laurie == Laurie Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laurie Muse is only £20 and does it in one, but are there not free ones? abc2midi in combination with a MIDI player. I'm pretty sure there's some kind of MIDI player that comes with Windows; I use the version of Cakewalk that came with

Re: [abcusers] ties and accidentals

2002-02-02 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John It's really the ABC representation that's misleading, implying that John ties and slurs are different things. It would be better for ABC to John officially go along with the usual musical convention, and just say John

Re: [abcusers] ties and midi

2002-01-30 Thread Laura Conrad
Atte == Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Atte If I have Atte CDE^F- | F Atte that is perfectly allowed in music notation, and abcm2ps also findes it no Atte problem at all (which it isn't), but abc2midi gives me this in the Atte midifile: Atte CDE^F | F

Re: [abcusers] splitting/merging of voices

2002-01-26 Thread Laura Conrad
Atte == Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The combining is pretty easy; I have a script that does it for specific file names, but it could be generalized fairly easily. Atte I would love to see your script (bash?), can I convince you Atte to send it to me?

Re: [abcusers] splitting/merging of voices

2002-01-25 Thread Laura Conrad
Atte == Atte Andre Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Atte I've started using abc (actually abcm2ps) for writing charts Atte for a big band. So now I need some tools to manipulate the Atte voices individually, for instance spit a file up in the Atte individual voices, and then

Re: [abcusers] attachements to the lists.

2002-01-16 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Can this mailserver do the trick of just stripping out attachments? I think it would be friendlier to just put a size limit on postings. It really makes sense to use attachments for something like an ABC file that the reader may want to

Re: [abcusers] Initial repeats

2001-12-18 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John | On Tue 18 Dec 2001 at 01:00PM +, Erik Ronstr=F6m wrote: John | Consider standard music notation: John | My theory is that once upon a time, the repeat sign consisted of two John | dots (:), and always coincided with a

Re: [abcusers] Re: Initial repeats

2001-12-16 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John My conclusion is that there's no standard for this among printers, at John least in the British Isles and North America. The best advice for John anyone implementing an ABC player would be to expect all of these, John

Re: [abcusers] Multiple Endings

2001-12-13 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John BTW, where does the 1.6 standard explicitly forbid this final :|? I John don't seem to see anything at all on the topic, only the statement John that :| marks the end of a repeated section. This would imply that John

Re: [abcusers] Open Source Project?

2001-11-28 Thread Laura Conrad
Laurie == Laurie Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Laurie The question is, on what terms should the source be opened? Here is what I Laurie have in mind. You don't say anything about the source being available to anyone. This is what makes an open source project open source. If you

Re: [abcusers] something really simple

2001-11-27 Thread Laura Conrad
James == James Allwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [about global header fields] James This is not a widely implemented feature of the abc standard and I James would personally like it to become deprecated. My reasoning is that James if you have global fields, you can't treat a

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