Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-29 Thread Ray Davies
Eric wrote So this way, by allowing !, !...! and *=!, everyone would be happy, and I don't know the reason why this thread lasts so long. The reason the thread is lasting so long is that not everyone would be happy with this. The use of abc for printing classical etc music is fairly recent and

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-26 Thread Forgeot Eric
Changing abcm2ps to use *...* instead of !...! (it accepts ! for a linebreak already) would be a matter of minutes work for Jef. Changing ABC2Win is not possible. no, we don't ask people to change their way of notation or Abc2Win to be improved or conform to anything : !-for-line-break addicts

[abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-25 Thread Bryancreer
Irwin Oppenheim wrote - Using ! and !..! in one and the same tune may lead to disaster if you make a small typo. So, while "!" should definitely be supported, I encourage you to support "*" as well. It just seems to make a messy situation more complicated. You are still going to have to handle !

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-25 Thread Richard Robinson
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:58:42AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Irwin Oppenheim wrote - Using ! and !..! in one and the same tune may lead to disaster if you make a small typo. So, while ! should definitely be supported, I encourage you to support * as well. It just seems to make a

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-25 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote: If I have a tune with decorations, and want to add a staffbreak somewhere, I'm just not going to delete the decorations. Of course you won't delete the decorations! All I am proposing is that you should be able to use !...! for decorations and *

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-25 Thread I. Oppenheim
So the bottom line is: it would be nice if both ! and * could be used to notate a staffbreak. The people who do not use !...! won't be bothered by it, and the people who use decorations will have an easier time. We're into the territory of defining new stuff here. As I said before, I

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-25 Thread Richard Robinson
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 07:15:34PM +0200, I. Oppenheim wrote: So the bottom line is: it would be nice if both ! and * could be used to notate a staffbreak. The people who do not use !...! won't be bothered by it, and the people who use decorations will have an easier time.

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-25 Thread Bert Van Vreckem
Phil Taylor wrote: Changing abcm2ps to use *...* instead of !...! (it accepts ! for a linebreak already) would be a matter of minutes work for Jef. Changing ABC2Win is not possible. Changing all of the existing files which use !...! to use *...* is just a matter of search and replace; there are

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-25 Thread Arent Storm
From: Bert Van Vreckem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!' Phil Taylor wrote: Changing abcm2ps to use *...* instead of !...! (it accepts ! for a linebreak already) would be a matter of minutes work

[abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-24 Thread Bryancreer
Irwin Oppenheim wrote - line breaking To force a line break at all times, a star (*) can be used. The star can be inserted everywhere, where a note group could. Deprecated line breaking The abc2win program used a `!' character to force line breaks, as is currently supported with the *

Re: [abcusers] Re: About the choice of '!'

2003-07-24 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be more accurate to say that !...! conflicts with the abc2win usage and is far less widely used. Both !...! and ! are established notation, and therefore the standard encourages parsers to handle both, and even provides an algorithm to do