Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc/little V: comment

2001-07-13 Thread Frank Nordberg
John Chambers wrote: I've been seriously tempted to take what I have and try to merge it with abcm2ps. That would probably be the most powerful abc formatter around, at least for a few weeks. Add some abctab2ps code too, and you'd have the ultimate abc2ps clone. ... This is more

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc/little V

2001-07-13 Thread Markus Lutz
On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:20:12 +0200, Frank Nordberg wrote: FN FN Add some abctab2ps code too, and you'd have the ultimate abc2ps clone. FN In fact that would be perfect! I would appreciate very much, if the abilities of abctab2ps and abcm2ps could be merged. Markus To subscribe/unsubscribe,

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc/little V

2001-07-13 Thread Laura Conrad
Markus == Markus Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Markus On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 19:20:12 +0200, Frank Nordberg wrote: FN FN Add some abctab2ps code too, and you'd have the ultimate abc2ps clone. FN Markus In fact that would be perfect! Markus I would appreciate very much,

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc/little V: comment

2001-07-13 Thread John Chambers
Phil Taylor writes: | | True. An additional problem is one which you yourself pointed out | recently: users often write abc which is intended to be read only by | human readers. In other words they are treating abc as a natural | language. In this context any variation on abc syntax is OK as

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc/little V: comment

2001-07-12 Thread John Chambers
Steve Mansfield wrote: | Can I just sincerely apologise to everyone on the list | | (especially rjp, who will probably kill me at band practise tomorrow) | | for accidentally restarting the V: wars again? No, we won't forgive you! It's about time that someone made this mistake. Maybe we

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc/little V: comment

2001-07-10 Thread Phil Taylor
John Chambers wrote: Bryan Creer hath writ: | I can see that we're going to end up having to write smart software | which can figure out the right answer from anything which looks like abc. | | Or, alternatively, we can all work to the same standard and save ourselves a | lot of trouble. Fat

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc/little V: comment

2001-07-10 Thread Bryancreer
Phil Taylor said - The standard is abc v1.6. There's also a proposed draft standard which is still under discussion. Neither of them even mentions multivoice abc. Does that mean that nobody is allowed to post tunes which use the V: field to this group, which is devoted to the discussion of the

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc sources compiling

2001-07-10 Thread Forgeot Eric
Thanks to everyone who give some good advices for displaying multible voices on one staff. The command %%staves 1 (2 3) worked well with abcm2ps. I thought I could be good to propose new features in the abc format, for example, in the brackets for the chords [], we could have symbolised

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc/little V: comment

2001-07-10 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, John Chambers wrote: Modern GUIs are very well designed, for people with three hands. The real problem has been how slow customers have been to make necessary hardware upgrades to meet the requirements of the software. Quite ;-) -- Richard Robinson The whole plan

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc/little V: comment

2001-07-09 Thread Bryancreer
Phil Taylor said - The tune will work with Muse and abcm2ps with a minimal amount of editing (just insert a return after every V:n field). Why should users have to do that? How are they going to know that's what they have to do? They may not be on this list. They may never have heard of

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc/little V: comment

2001-07-09 Thread John Chambers
Bryan Creer hath writ: | I can see that we're going to end up having to write smart software | which can figure out the right answer from anything which looks like abc. | | Or, alternatively, we can all work to the same standard and save ourselves a | lot of trouble. Fat chance. Even if we try

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc

2001-07-07 Thread Bryancreer
Phil Taylor wrote - All extensions start out as program-specific. Why? Why shouldn't they start out as proposals for discussion and feedback from other developers and even users? That way the idea might be improved on and clashes avoided and the resulting definition included in the standard

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc

2001-07-07 Thread Phil Taylor
Bryan Creer wrote: Phil Taylor wrote - All extensions start out as program-specific. Why? Why shouldn't they start out as proposals for discussion and feedback from other developers and even users? That way the idea might be improved on and clashes avoided and the resulting definition

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc

2001-07-06 Thread Markus Lutz
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 00:05:40 +0100, Phil Taylor wrote: PT PT To be honest, I don't think there is really an abc-only solution PT for this kind of thing. Dear Phil, look at http://home.t-online.de/home/Markus_Lutz/Susato26.gif Its made with abcm2ps without any further editing, after having

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc

2001-07-06 Thread Frank Nordberg
Markus Lutz wrote: On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 00:05:40 +0100, Phil Taylor wrote: PT PT To be honest, I don't think there is really an abc-only solution PT for this kind of thing. Dear Phil, look at http://home.t-online.de/home/Markus_Lutz/Susato26.gif Its made with abcm2ps without any

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc

2001-07-06 Thread Phil Taylor
Frank Nordberg wrote: To sum it up, both BarFly and abcm2ps seem to handle this particular job fairly well - slightly better than I had expected, but there are still a few problems: 1. As far as I know both programs are single platform applications: BarFly is Mac only, and from Jean-Francois'

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc

2001-07-06 Thread Markus Lutz
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001 15:04:29 +0100, Phil Taylor wrote: PT Frank Nordberg wrote: PT PT 2. The two programs require different ABC extensions, so you'll have to PT post two different versions of the file. PT PT Not necessarily. abcm2ps doesn't have the middle= directive, so the PT tune has to be

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc

2001-07-05 Thread Phil Taylor
Eric Forgeot wrote: One example X:21 T:Branle R:Branle C:Tielman Susato Z:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M:6/8 L:1/8 Q:1/4=110 K:C V:1 cde def | cde d3 :: ede cde | f2 e d3 :|] V:2 %%MIDI transpose -12 [G2e2] [ce] [B2g2] [Af] | [A2e2][ce] [G3d3] :: [C2c2] [Cc] [F2a2] [Eg] | [D2f2] [Cg] [B,3g3] :|] V:3

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc

2001-07-05 Thread Markus Lutz
On Thu, 05 Jul 2001 18:41:53 +0200, Frank Nordberg wrote: FN Hard to say. The problem of merging voices with different rhythms onto a FN single staff is a rather complex one. Both BarFly and abcm2ps has FN merge functions. BarFly's is far too simple for this particular FN exmple, and I don't

Re: [abcusers] chords writing in abc

2001-07-05 Thread Phil Taylor
Frank Nordberg wrote: For those who isn't sure what this is about, I've uploaded a pdf with something similar to what I think Eric is looking for at: http://www.musicaviva.com/temp/de-madrigale-a1gtr.pdf and a midi at: http://www.musicaviva.com/temp/de-madrigale-a1gtr.mid Here's the original