Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-05 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 10:55:27 -0400, Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Third, UTF-8 is designed so that Latin-1 characters are encoded as-is (which also means that 7-bit ASCII characters are encoded as-is), so all existing ABC files that use either ASCII only or Latin-1 are

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-05 Thread Bert Van Vreckem
Jean-Francois Moine wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 10:55:27 -0400, Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Third, UTF-8 is designed so that Latin-1 characters are encoded as-is (which also means that 7-bit ASCII characters are encoded as-is), so all existing ABC files that use either ASCII

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-04 Thread Henrik Norbeck
John Chambers wrote: Those are a slightly-abbreviated version of the TeX notation, supported by abc2mtex and abc2ps. What other abc tools implement these? AbcMus supports a bunch of them (if you select the option for doing so). I could post a list later. (One thing I just noticed

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-04 Thread David Webber
From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or even English: The First Noël That would be French. In English it's The First Nowell. Well Chloë then. I have Spike Jones's magnificent recording somewhere and I'm sure the title is spelled like that :-) Dave David Webber Author of MOZART the music

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: The ABC standard itself should make it possible to specify the code page in which the text inside the ABC tune is coded. It is probably safe to assume iso8859-1 (Latin-1) as default, if nothing is specified by the user. This way the user could also

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Guido Gonzato wrote: In the draft, I didn't mention codepages, iso and some such. I'm sure 95% of ABC users would not understand what it's all about. Probably; but the software packages that write ABC should specify the codepage in a standardized way, unless the

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:25:46AM +0200, I. Oppenheim wrote: On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Guido Gonzato wrote: In the draft, I didn't mention codepages, iso and some such. I'm sure 95% of ABC users would not understand what it's all about. Probably; but the software packages that write ABC

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:34:03AM +0200, Guido Gonzato wrote: On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: And what about \'a style accent notation? obviously, I've added a section that deals with it! :-) Is there a list anywhere of which programs recognise which of these sequences ? --

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread John Chambers
I. Oppenheim wrote: | | All I wrote is that ABC tunes are written using | characters: A-Z, a-z, and some symbols. | | And what about \'a style accent notation? Those are a slightly-abbreviated version of the TeX notation, supported by abc2mtex and abc2ps. What other abc tools

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Umm. Even if you only write in Spanish, French, German, Danish, Richard Norwegian, Swedish ... you're going to want non-127 accented Richard characters.

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Laura Conrad
Bernard == Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Umm. Even if you only write in Spanish, French, German, Danish, Richard Norwegian, Swedish ... you're going to want non-127 accented Richard characters. If you don't write lyrics you'll want them for a tune Richard title.

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard == Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Umm. Even if you only write in Spanish, French, German, Danish, Richard Norwegian, Swedish ... you're going to want non-127 accented Richard characters. If

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Phil Taylor
John Chambers wrote: | And what about \'a style accent notation? Those are a slightly-abbreviated version of the TeX notation, supported by abc2mtex and abc2ps. What other abc tools implement these? This is the set that BarFly supports (the right hand column may not come out correct

[abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: I suspect that the only things the abc standard has to worry about, as far as applications on different platforms go, is to do with specification of text fonts The actual font type to be used is a typical issues for the stylesheet meta standard. and

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread Buddha Buck
I. Oppenheim wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: I suspect that the only things the abc standard has to worry about, as far as applications on different platforms go, is to do with specification of text fonts The actual font type to be used is a typical issues for the stylesheet

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Buddha Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I. Oppenheim wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: I suspect that the only things the abc standard has to worry about, as far as applications on different platforms go, is to do with specification of text fonts

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Buddha Buck wrote: For syntax (e.g., everything that isn't text, stick to stricty 7-bit ASCII characters. No accents, no other funny stuff. Just straight 7-bit ASCII. Agreed. Bernard Hill wrote: That's a strictly American view. There are 2 important characters on our

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Buddha Buck wrote: For syntax (e.g., everything that isn't text, stick to stricty 7-bit ASCII characters. No accents, no other funny stuff. Just straight 7-bit ASCII. Agreed. Bernard Hill wrote: