I've reported in the past a print problem for abacus (it prints
only parts of the score (- the key, time signature, the notes but
not the tails, the bar lines but not the staves). I've tried to
print something else on an other computer with an other printer
(Canon BJC-210, the first time it was
Eric Forgeot wrote -
I've reported in the past a print problem for abacus ...
Unfortunately, I can only test with the printer I've got. I'll enquire
amongst my beta testers, but at the moment, Eric is the only person
reporting problems. Anybody else?
Bryan Creer
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Laurie Griffiths wrote:
Can someone explain why first note determines length is better than
shortest determines length. A counter example that doesn;t work the other
way would be nice, especially if it were not contrived.
Hear, hear! Can anyone find us that example?
So two of the most used*
Henrik Norbert wrote -
So two of the most used* abc programs, Muse and AbcMus, both
use the shortest determines length method, which seems to
work well. I've had no complaints so far. Have you, Laurie? Do we
really have to change it?
But a few days ago he wrote -
Now that I understand what
Well, I can think of a simple example of how one might use this:
[A4G2E2]2[F2D2]
This would have a 4-count melody note above the [G2E2][F2D2] chord
change. With L:1/8, the first chord could be drawn on a single stem,
with an open oval for the A4 note and filled ovals for the G2 and E2
There is a lot of abc that would give strange results from the
shortest-note rule. Recently someone pointed out that some of my
files have notation like [A3G] with no length for the second note.
There's a reason for this.
It doesn't matter what the reason is, there can't be so
Jack Campin wrote -
OK, I'm with you and it's growing on me. It would be necessary for
something I saw the other day which would need to be written
[d6z2]2[B2G2][B2G2] although there would still need to be intelligence
within the programme to recognise that the two Bs were not melody notes.
Jack writes:
| There is a lot of abc that would give strange results from the
| shortest-note rule. Recently someone pointed out that some of my
| files have notation like [A3G] with no length for the second note.
| There's a reason for this.
|
| It doesn't matter what the
Muse as released does *not* use the shortest note wins rule. In fact it's
pretty restrictive which can make it a pain for keyboard users. At the
moment I'm doing a major rewrite (called Muse2) which is aimed at
1. Choral singers (better control over playback - done)
2. Keyboard players (live
Laurie wrote:
| ... In fixing the restrictions on within-staff,
| within-voice polyphony - and in particular in trying to type in various
| keyboard parts (The Messiah being the biggest) I found that the rule that
| seemed to work was shortest note wins. So that is the rule used within
| the
Jack Campin wrote:
Or did I get the semantics wrong? I'd expect [d6z2]2 to mean the same
as [d12z4] (whatever *that* meant)
Sorry, you are wrong. If the ]2 is just multiplied to the length
of the notes inside the chord, there would be no benefit of the [..]2
notation.
You can write better the
John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: Starling wrote -
: is about. Look at the Subject line. The topic is abc bracketed chord
: notation. The melody note in a chord is the one that a monphonic
: player plays. There's nothing deeper than that.
Alright, I just wanted to get that clear.
Or did I get the semantics wrong? I'd expect [d6z2]2 to mean the same
as [d12z4] (whatever *that* meant)
Sorry, you are wrong. If the ]2 is just multiplied to the length
of the notes inside the chord, there would be no benefit of the [..]2
notation.
There is a considerable benefit:
I really think we're wasting a lot of time on this.
The only use for it is to notate an odd chord or brief passage
of double-stopping in a piece which is otherwise monophonic.
Anything more complex than this should always be notated using
multivoice abc, which lets you define absolutely any
Bryan wrote I know you've been away Laurie but this has been discussed at
some length for
over a week now. A variety of people have given their reasons and examples.
Perhaps if you would care to read the whole thread you could come up with
specific reasons why you disagree and why you think
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