RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-21 Thread Sakari Kouti
Joe wrote: Cool Sakari, if you don't mind I made some small mods to it. I have it preload the attributes and then the lookups go much faster. No, I don't mind. I made the original to be able to investigate things for our book, and I only needed to run the script a couple of times. Therefore,

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-21 Thread joe
Absolutely. Knock yourself out Sakari. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sakari Kouti Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 1:07 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness Joe

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-14 Thread joe
@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness The interesting thing is that the permissions of the newly created GP Objects are not inherited neither from the System\Policies container in the default NC, nor from the Policies folder in the SYSVOL. The permissions

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-14 Thread joe
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:01 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness Right. And joe thinks I asked this question because I didn't know. ;o) There are interesting idiosyncrasies with the built-in and default groups

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-14 Thread joe
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 10:23 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness Now that Joe brought this up, I uploaded a script that does this enumeration on http://www.kouti.com/scripts.htm (at the bottom of the page). You need only

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-14 Thread joe
@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness joe wrote: Another mistake with the property sets in the base OEM setup is the property set called Phone and Mail Options (E45795B2-9455-11d1-AEBD-F80367C1) - no attributes in this property set at all

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-14 Thread joe
Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness I do understand - that's what documentation is for... But I tend to agree that documentation lacks in many places. However, you don't only

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-12 Thread Rick Kingslan
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:40 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness Let's take, for example Group Policy Creator Owner. How is this built

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-12 Thread Sakari Kouti
How many consultants on this list actually could enumerate the property set attributes in a given forest in any reasonable time? I can do it pretty quickly with adfind and little perl script. Not sure of any other easy ways of doing it due to the funky GUID handling. Now that Joe

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-12 Thread Sakari Kouti
joe wrote: Another mistake with the property sets in the base OEM setup is the property set called Phone and Mail Options (E45795B2-9455-11d1-AEBD-F80367C1) - no attributes in this property set at all... Must not have any phone or mail attributes in AD. I actually reported this to

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-12 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
to the default if the default is unacceptable to you. /Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Mai 2005 02:32 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness Yep

Re: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-11 Thread Brett Shirley
IIRC and ... I should say, I'm only like 37% sure of this, as AD schema stuff is one of my poor suits, it is NOT one ACE when you grant access to a property set, it is access to each individual attribute. Property sets are a lie told to you by the UI. I feel like I was told this once, but I

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-11 Thread Sakari Kouti
: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness IIRC and ... I should say, I'm only like 37% sure of this, as AD schema stuff is one of my poor suits, it is NOT one ACE when you grant access to a property set, it is access to each individual attribute. Property sets

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-11 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sakari Kouti Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2005 13:12 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness Hi Brett (and joe), Actually, granting (or denying) permission to one property set takes only one ACE. Each property

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-11 Thread Kingslan, Rick T.
GPOs? -rtk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:03 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness Hey joe

RE: [ActiveDir] [OnTopic] Active Directory Property Set Madness

2005-05-11 Thread joe
I feel like I was told this once, but I could be making it up in a sleepy haze ... Yep, I can confirm, a property set gets one ACE in the ACL. To show it, I simplified an ACL on an OU to SYSTEM FC, ADMINS FC, and joe\joe Public Information. Here is the dsacls and raw SDDL output[Wed