Re: LANFREE Backups - Feedback?

Tivoli has sold so few copies of this that they have no justification to develop the other options right now. I need the ESS/Solaris option. Maybe the prevalence of SAN now will change this story. I will talk to the product development manager again tomorrow about this issue. -Original

Re: LAN Free backups

Do you have ENABLELANFREE YES turned on? -Original Message- From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LAN Free backups I am having some problems with the LAN Free backups. Server is 4.2.1.12 (Windows 2000),

Re: LAN Free backups

What kind of HBA are you using in the client machine ? What is the tape library ? Has LAN-free ever worked on this node, or has it just gone wrong recently ? If you say the backups are now going to a disk pool, then the mgnt class for those files are not pointed at a tape pool. Apart from the

Client Memory usage on NT CLIENT

Hi, we are using a 4.2.1 Client on a Machine running WinNT4 SP6a. The Client is connected to an FC-Array containing approx. 1'000'000 files and 1'800'000 directories (growing). Since the TSM hangs the whole system when trying to backup these files, I took a look on the memoy usage: the software

LTO Autoloader 3581 Problem

Hi all, I have IBM LTO Autoloader 3581. I have configurred TSM Server 4.1.5 on the Sun Solaris system. I also updated the microcode to latest level which is vailable on IBM site i.e. Drive firmware Ver, 22U0 and Autoloader Firmware Ver. I106. When I start the TSM Server I am getting the following

Re: LAN Free backups

Yes, the TSM Client (4.2.1.20 windows2000) has this in the dsm.opt file. I dont believe there is an option for the storage agent to indicate LANFREE usage though. -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 3/6/2002 3:52

Re: FREEBSD + tsm client

Robert Clark and Carl Makin, Many thanks for the tips. We will stay waiting :-((( Taketoshi Ide Robert Clark wrote: It might make sense to put efforts towards an ndmp client, and abandon a TSM specifc effort entirely. (Assuming TSM will be ndmp compatible at some point.)

Re: Monitoring ADSM backups using HP OpenView

Seems like you could use TSM event logging on the TSM server to send the desired events to a FILETEXT receiver, and use Openview to monitor this plain text file the way you're used to. There is information on this in Chapter 20 of the Admin guide. Alternatively, you could monitor the

Re: Client Memory usage on NT CLIENT

The client can indeed consume a large amount of memory during the backup, as it requests backup information from the server for all active backup versions. Given your large file system, several hundred MB of memory doesn't surprise me. Try the 4.2.1.26 patch level, which includes a fix for

ANR0000E with TSM 4.1 on AIX 4.3.3

I've just installed TSM 4.1 Server on AIX 4.3.3 (IBM AIX F80) but when I tried this command: ./dsmserv runfile /usr/tivoli/tsm/server/webimages/dsmserv.idl I got the answer: ANRE Unable to open language en_US for message formatting. ANRE Unable to open message text file for message

Re: Monitoring ADSM backups using HP OpenView

Also, make sure you don't have your 'Anti-Virus' software running anytime during the incremental backup, especially **MCAFEE**! Regards, Demetrius Malbrough UNIX/TSM Administrator -Original Message- From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:41 AM

Re: Client Memory usage on NT CLIENT

Also, make sure you don't have your 'Anti-Virus' software running anytime during the incremental backup, especially **MCAFEE**! Regards, Demetrius Malbrough UNIX/TSM Administrator -Original Message- From: Sascha Askani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:42 AM

Re: Monitoring ADSM backups using HP OpenView

**DISREGARD LAST REPLY** I responded to the WRONG message SORRY! -Original Message- From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Monitoring ADSM backups using HP OpenView Seems like you could use TSM

Mirroring DB and Log

In a RAID5 environment, is there really any reason to Mirror the database and logs? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ANR0000E with TSM 4.1 on AIX 4.3.3

I had this once also. The problem is a missing symbolic link. I wish I could remember where, but I can't. It is somewhere in /usr/lib/nls, I think. I logged a support call and it didn't take long to fix. Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06-Mar-02 7:22:44 AM I've just installed TSM 4.1 Server on AIX

Re: Mirroring DB and Log

Only if you want to put two RAID5 arrays on two different adapters to prevent outage due to an adapter loss... -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 8:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mirroring DB and Log In

Re: ANR0000E with TSM 4.1 on AIX 4.3.3

Check that the NLSPATH environment variable looks like this: NLSPATH=/usr/lib/nls/msg/%L/%N:/usr/lib/nls/msg/%L/%N.cat Another application on your system may modify the NLSPATH. Mike Haskins Agway, Inc -Original Message- From: Stephan Boulinguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: ANR0000E with TSM 4.1 on AIX 4.3.3

Not sure if this is related, but it is worth a READ!!! APAR= IC28978 SER=IN INCORROUT WEB ADMINISTRATOR IS NOT UPGRADED WHEN TSM SERVER IS UPGRADED FROM 3.X-4.X OR 4.1.0.0-4.1.1.0. Status: CLOSED Closed: 07/17/01 Apar Information:

Re: Monitoring ADSM backups using HP OpenView

thanks Bill. I've just discovered the dsmsched.log. Is the admin guide a Redbook ? I currently have the TSM Concepts Redbook and the Implementation Guide. cheers Alex -Original Message- From: Bill Mansfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 06 March 2002 12:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ANR0000E with TSM 4.1 on AIX 4.3.3

Hi Stephan The problem is that you haven't installed the correct fileset for language environment. What you'll have to do is to install the fileset for language code en_US(not EN_US or en_us). This is most easily done by opening smitty mlang, selecting Add additional language Environments,

Re: ANR0000E with TSM 4.1 on AIX 4.3.3

yes it looks like this... Stephan Boulinguez - Original Message - From: Haskins, Mike To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:06 PM Subject: Re: ANRE with TSM 4.1 on AIX 4.3.3 Check that the NLSPATH environment variable looks like this:

Re: ANR0000E with TSM 4.1 on AIX 4.3.3

Also, make sure that file dsmserv.idl is in the /usr/tivoli/tsm/server/webimages directory! ls -l dsmserv.idl -r--r--r-- 1 root system379950 Aug 22 2001 dsmserv.idl -Demetrius -Original Message- From: Stephan Boulinguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06,

Re: ANR0000E with TSM 4.1 on AIX 4.3.3

Hi yes, I've installed the en_US package and I set the AIX language with smitty mlang command. It seems to have solved my problem. Thanks a lot, Stephan Boulinguez - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stephan Boulinguez Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:56 PM

Re: occupancy by date

Hi Mark, the only problem is I don't have access to the Exchange box! which is fine by me :-) thanks pc -Original Message- From: Remeta, Mark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: occupancy by date Hi Paul.

shrdynamic still skips a file

Current specs are: Server: RS/6000, TSM 4.1.4.1, AIX 4.3.3 Client: TSM 4.1.4, AIX 4.3.3 Our vendor that supports the application running on this box wanted shrdynamic for serialization to back a large comma delimited file. Even though the management class associated with the file has

AS/400 TSM

Does anyone has experience, i.e. right now, in using TSM for AS/400 backup's? Is there a simple way to do that and what is the performance? Cheers, Henk ten Have (heard bad stories about BMRS and ADSM V3 API)

Use of TSM disk storage pools volumes by clients

Greetings, Sorry if this is a newbie question, but I have not been able to find the answer in the manuals. Say a TSM server has a disk storage pool with 5 volumes. When a given client is backing up to a disk storage pool, will all his backup data go to the same disk storage pool volume?

Re: AS/400 TSM

Hi There is a API for AS/400, but it requires for example RoboSave to work. We have a AS/400 backing up to TSM (NSM) and 3583. It works perfect, but the IBM guys had to set up the AS/400. --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Bergkällavägen 31D 192 79

Re: AS/400 TSM

No experience, but there's a (fairly) recent redpiece: Backup Recovery and Media Services for OS/400 More Practical Information REDP0508. _ William Mansfield Senior Consultant Solution Technology, Inc Henk ten Have [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor

Re: Licencing. (and pricing)(and support)

Late response, I'm afraid, but nonetheless true. On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:28:16 -0500, it was written: And WHY do I have to call a DIFFERENT sales person for Tivoli software than IBM software? It's a different company. And WHY do I have to have a DIFFERENT support contract for Tivoli software

Downloading TSM Patches (was: RE: TSM 4.2.1.14 on AIX 4.3.3)

If you go to the TSM web site: http://www.tivoli.com/products/index/storage_mgr/ Click the fixes and client code link. That takes you to a page where you can select your client/server platform, and get a list of available server and client fix levels. These are the fix levels that are

reclamation question

have tape storage pools defined wth default reclamation threshold set to 60% some of these tape storage pools have been doing automatic reclamation ok but a few others are not running reclamation i cant seem to find the difference between the storasge pools Tim Brown Systems Specialist

Re: Mirroring DB and Log

I think, as usual, IT DEPENDS ON YOUR ENVIRONMENT. The RAID5 prevents outage due to a disk failure. But there is some exposure to other failures. Your RAID5 controller can fail. And there is always that traditional bugaboo of HUMAN failure - I always worry about some enthusiastic trainee or

Re: Mirroring DB and Log

excelent! -Original Message- From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mirroring DB and Log I think, as usual, IT DEPENDS ON YOUR ENVIRONMENT. The RAID5 prevents outage due to a disk failure. But there is

Re: AS/400 TSM

Henk, This past summer we added 4 AS/400s to our TSM environment. We are running TSM v 3.7.2 on AIX v4.3.3. Our Library is a SCSI connected 3575. There are redbooks out there with great information on setting up your management class, and tips for setting up BRMS on the AS/400. We

TSM Client Hangs

We have one Netware TSM client that normally takes between 2 and 3 hours. Yesterday, it indicated a normal backup of a file 2:20 and hung for almost 6 hours. The TSM Server did not show a connection. Using Q to quit did not clear the TSM session. 03/05/2002 02:29:01 Normal File--

Re: reclamation question

Maybe the storage pools don't have any tapes that meet criteria. To check run this select statement: select volume_name,pct_reclaim from volumes where stgpool_name='STG' order by pct_reclaim Put your stg pool name in place of 'STG and remember use upper case. (Put command in one line, I just

bfcreate.c(1346)

I have two TSM 3.7.4.0 servers on MVS and several other 3.7.4.0 servers on AIX getting ANRD bfcreate.c(1346): Region 1: offset=0.0, length=0.2497. in the activity logs. I can't find any information in the tivoli knowledgebase specific to bfcreate.c that mentions a message resembling this.

TSM-Client 4.2.1 for Linux x86 and https

Hi tsm'ers, does anybody know, if the tsm-(web)-client for linux (x86) can be configured for using ssl-communication and if not, is it planned for the next release??? thanks, Jens Fornfeist IDG mbh ,

Re: Mirroring DB and Log

That, Wanda, is a great explanation. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mirroring DB and Log I think, as usual, IT DEPENDS ON YOUR ENVIRONMENT. The RAID5 prevents

Re: bfcreate.c(1346)

Hi Dale! I can't find anything either! As far as I can see, you have two options: install 3.7.4.6. and iIf that doesn't solve it: run an auditdb. Good luck! Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Dale Jolliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: AS/400 TSM

Jon, thanks for your answers: 1 BRMS does all management and expiration of the files stored in TSM. 2 The backup times were extremely slow. This doesn't look something you like to deal with... In the end we removed the AS/400's from our environment. Someday when we upgrade

Re: AS/400 TSM

Daniel, We have a AS/400 backing up to TSM (NSM) and 3583. It works perfect, but the IBM guys had to set up the AS/400. Any idea what the IBM guys did set up? I don't suppose it's something magic? Cheers, Henk ten Have.

check the tape integrity

Hi I would like to know if is possible to check periodically a tape integrity. That means a procedure read a little bit of the tape without use commands like restore, retrieve, or movedata. TIA !

Re: reclamation question

This command will look for any tapes meeting a 50% reclaimable state. Sub your devclass_name in for '3590' select volume_name, pct_utilized, pct_reclaim, stgpool_name from volumes where devclass_name like '%3590%' and pct_reclaim50 order by stgpool_name Gabriel C. Wiley ADSM/TSM

Re: reclamation question

i have a particular tape in a storage pool that is not being reclamed Volume Name: A00044 Storage Pool Name: NT_TAPE Device Class Name: NT3590 Estimated Capacity (MB): 98,244.1 Pct Util: 8.2 Volume

File Name converted to Upper Case

Hello, I'm migrating from ADSM 3.1.2.50 to TSM 4.2.1.0 running on an OS/390. Windows NT clients are 3.1.0.8. I've noticed that when I restore a file it converts the file name to upper case. Does anyone know why is this done? How can I avoid this conversion Regards Angel Antsn IZFE. S.A. Plaza

Re: reclamation question

Can you cut paste the output from q stg stgpoolname f=d and also your OS version levels of TSM please??? -Demetrius -Original Message- From: Tim Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: reclamation question have tape

Re: check the tape integrity

tsm audit volume volumename fix=no,yes It will check for any inconsistencies between the db info the stgpool. Also, you can do a tsm q content volname damaged=yes Regards, Demetrius Malbrough UNIX/TSM Administrator -Original Message- From: Luciano Ariceto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: reclamation question

Tim, Occasionaly I will have a problem where a volume will show up as reclaimable and it won't reclaim.. I will try and delete the volume discard=yes(volume being a offsite tape) and it won't do it either. I do an audit volume XX fix=yes to resolve the problem.. XXX= volser number.

Re: Licencing. (and pricing)(and support)

So then, WHY do some Tivoli developers have @ibm.com in their email addresses? Robin Sharpe Berlex Labs Mark Stapleton stapleto@BER To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BEE.COM cc:(bcc: Robin Sharpe/WA/USR/SHG)

Automated schedules

I see in this message group about doing a query on the sessions/processes and if one exists then to reschedule a schedule to check again later. I have been searching the ADSM.SYS site with no luck. Could someone point me in the right direction??? Thanks Joe Here is what I would like to do:

Re: Mac files on NT server/client

Hello any SM'ers. I have a client that is NT but has mostly Macintosh users on it. It seems to back up at considerable slower speed than NT data. It is routed on a Cat 6509 with fiber Gb line and the AIX node server has a GB (10/1000) card with fiber to the Cat 6509. I am currently

Re: reclamation question

i found the answer, the dev classes for my storage pools that weren't reclaiming only had mountl=1 once i set them to mountl=2 thay started to reclaim thanks - Original Message - From: David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:15 PM

Re: Licencing. (and pricing)(and support)

NOT!! Well, so Tivoli didn't want to ADMIT they were bought by IBM; it's still an IBM comany! The emperor has no clothes here! They are just pretending! :) -Original Message- From: Mark Stapleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Licencing. (and pricing)(and support)

Probably like me... I used to work for Amoco, then British Petroleum bought Amoco and then they didn't want to have anything to do with computing (they are an oil company) so they outsourced it to SAIC but (for the time being) I still have a bp.com mail id (and an saic.com mail id) -Original

TDP for Exchange 2.2 .

I am testing for our migration to W2K and E2K. The proposal for our E2K servers is clustered system with 4 Storage Groups and 4 DBs in each, should total somewhere around 80 - 100 GB per E2K site. 4 sites in all. What I am looking for: 1) I have tested the Scheduler and utilizing the command

password reset?

We love the ADSM tape library. It saves our butts all the time. Only one small problem: we have 3 admin accounts set up in ADSM. Occasionally the passwords for an admin account will be reset, deleted, or something. Anyway, we can't logon to that account. It seems to happen once a year or so,

Re: Licencing. (and pricing)(and support)

And WHY do I have to call a DIFFERENT sales person for Tivoli software than IBM software? It's a different company. Actually, that is not true. Tivoli is NOT a different company. We are all IBM. Tivoli software is a part of IBM Software Group. As far as the issues with service... I am trying

Re: Licencing. (and pricing)(and support)

A note on ibmlink vs tivoli for problem input. It goes to the same database...just different front ends. I found and spoke with the internet strategist for tivoli support and showed him ibmlink. IBMLINK if far superior. I believe the reason for the tivoli front end is that there's no ibmlink

Upgrade server release

Hello, I want to upgrade an TSM-server version 3.1 (yeh it's old) to 4.2. Is it possible to upgrade from 3.1 to 4.2 or should I have to go to 3.7 or 4.1 first. Thanks, Brian. _ Chat on line met vrienden en probeer MSN Messenger

Re: reclamation question

Tapes can also fail to reclaim in you have RESTARTABLE RESTORES hanging around. In this case you will find in the server actlog: ANR1089W Space reclamation terminated for volume x -lock conflict. From a server command line, do Q RESTORE. You will see there are some restartable

Re: password reset?

Try: update admin passexp=days If days are blank or not set (q admin) then I believe it is 30 days. If set to 0 then do not expire password. Hope this helps -- Phillip Ford Senior Software Specialist Corporate Computer Center Schering-Plough Corp. (901) 320-4462 (901) 320-4856 FAX

Re: password reset?

If you are using a 4.1 server (at least under AIX) make sure you set it to non-null. Otherwise your nodes will pick up the server expire days as the default. I spent a few days trying to figure out why some netware nodes wouldn't authenticate after 90 days... If you want non-expiring passwords,

Re: password reset?

We love the ADSM tape library. It saves our butts all the time. Only one small problem: we have 3 admin accounts set up in ADSM. Occasionally the passwords for an admin account will be reset, deleted, or something. Anyway, we can't logon to that account. It seems to happen once a year or

Re: shrdynamic still skips a file

Current specs are: Server: RS/6000, TSM 4.1.4.1, AIX 4.3.3 Client: TSM 4.1.4, AIX 4.3.3 Our vendor that supports the application running on this box wanted shrdynamic for serialization to back a large comma delimited file. Even though the management class associated with the file has

One system, two different servers,two different ports

Hello, For some reason we have a system that have to back-up to different TSM-servers in seperate locations. Does anybody has any experience with the following: one client-installation, two stanza's in dsm.sys, per stanza following different settings: client-node-name or client IP-adres,

Re: shrdynamic still skips a file

No, it is manually kicked off via a cron job setup by the vendor. Bud Brown Information Services Systems Administrator 303-436-5986 -Original Message- From: Thomas Denier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: shrdynamic

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Re: One system, two different servers,two different ports

For some reason we have a system that have to back-up to different TSM-servers in seperate locations. Does anybody has any experience with the following: one client-installation, two stanza's in dsm.sys, per stanza following different settings: client-node-name or client IP-adres, IP-server

Re: One system, two different servers,two different ports

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Tape Library Experiences

Hello ADSMer's, We are trying to decide on which LTO tape library to purchase for our UNIX / NT environment. This library will be replacing a STK 9710 with DLT 7000 drives. Our environment is: TSM Server 4.2.1.11, on AIX 4.3.3 / Winterhawk node. Clients range from 30+NT servers,

SQL command

Looking for an SQL command that will show me nodes by management class. Can anyone help? Regards, Joe Wholey TGA Distributed Data Services Merrill Lynch Phone: 212-647-3018 Page: 888-637-7450 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tape Library Experiences

I currently have three of the L700-380 w/ 8 DLT7000 drives. In the two years we have had them I have had one robotic failure. That seemed to be due to a possible shipping issue. I have had a couple of tape drive problems but those were due to a bad lot of DLT tapes. The L700 jukebox itself seems

reclaim space from backups

One of our client nodes was set up incorrectly. A datawarehouse was backing up 130 GB nightly instead of monthly. Is there a way of deleting individual backup sets (i.e. last night's, last week's, etc.) like you can with deleting archive data, or is the only option to remove the filespace

Re: SQL command

Do you mean by domain? Nodes don't have management classes, files do -Original Message- From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SQL command Looking for an SQL command that will show me nodes

Re: SQL command

from the command select * from syscat.tables you can find a table called: TABSCHEMA: ADSM TABNAME: MGMTCLASSES CREATE_TIME: 1996-04-25 14:31:19.025065 COLCOUNT: 12 INDEX_COLCOUNT: 3 UNIQUE_INDEX: TRUE REMARKS: Management classes then you can do: tsm: ADSMselect *

TSO TSM client

Hi all, I'm starting the TSM TSO client and I get this... ANS8015E File 'DD:DSCOPT', error code 109 from options processing. What gives? Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida, Inc., and its subsidiary and affiliate companies are not responsible for errors or omissions in this e-mail message.

Re: SQL command

This actually isn't a very easy question to answer, and I'm not sure how useful this data would be. Files from a single node can be bound to multiple management classes, so you would have to check each file. If you really want to let your TSM database grind away for a while, you can try this,

Re: TSO TSM client

Either it can't find this file, or there is an error in the file (just a guess as I'm no TSO guy). Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs, CO 80949 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com (719)531-5926 Fax:

Re: TSO TSM client

I find the best way to start TSM via TSO is to create a REXX pgm and allocated the required DDs within the rexx. This is based on the belief that the that the required DD's are rarely allocated in your TSO logon proc due to the limitted number of peple requiring access to the server line command.

Re: Tape Library Experiences

HiI have experience in both L700, 3584 and 3583.Whats the reason for doing a combination of either 3584/3583 or L700/L80?The 3584 is probably the library that is easiest to install and manage. It is also the library that is most expandable(6 frames).The 3583 is as the 3584, very reliable.However,

Thanks to All That Provided Input for the Share Session on SQL Co mmands

If you want a copy of the presentation, please let me know. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180