Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-19 Thread Pei Wang
Peter, I'm afraid that your question cannot be answered as it is. AI is highly fragmented, which not only means that few project is aiming at the whole field, but also that few is even covering a subfield as you listed. Instead, each project usually aims at a special problem under a set of

Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-19 Thread Matt Mahoney
- Comprehensive (common-sense) knowledge-bases and/or ontologies Cyc/OpenCyc, Wordnet, etc. but there seems to be no good way for applications to use this information and no good alternative to hand coding knowledge. - Inference engines, etc. - Adaptive expert systems A dead end. There has

Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-19 Thread BillK
On 10/19/06, Matt Mahoney wrote: - NLP components such as parsers, translators, grammar-checkers Parsing is unsolved. Translators like Babelfish have progressed little since the 1959 Russian-English project. Microsoft Word's grammar checker catches some mistakes but is clearly not AI.

Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-19 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
Hi Peter, I think in all of the categories you listed, thereshould be a lot ofprogress, but they will hit a ceiling because of the lack of an AGI architecture. It is very clear that vision requires AGI to be complete. So does NLP. In vision, many objects require reasoning to recognize.NLP also

Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-19 Thread Matt Mahoney
- Original Message From: BillK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:43:46 AM Subject: Re: [agi] SOTA On 10/19/06, Matt Mahoney wrote: - NLP components such as parsers, translators, grammar-checkers Parsing is unsolved. Translators like

Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-19 Thread Richard Loosemore
Matt Mahoney wrote: From: BillK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Parsing is unsolved. Translators like Babelfish have progressed little since the 1959 Russian-English project. Microsoft Word's grammar checker catches some mistakes but is clearly not AI. I think the problem will eventually be solved.

Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-19 Thread BillK
On 10/19/06, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but IMO large databases, fast hardware, and cheap memory ain't got nothing to do with it. Anyone who doubts this get a copy of Pim Levelt's Speaking, read and digest the whole thing, and then meditate on the fact that that book is

Re: [agi] SOTA

2006-10-19 Thread Olie Lamb
(Excellent list there, Matt)Although Pei Wang makes a good point that the fragmentation of AI does make it difficult to compare projects, it is interesting+ to note the huge differences in the movements in different narrow-AI fields. As has already been mentioned, it is interesting+ to compare the