Re: [agi] Re: [singularity] Help get the SIAI video on Digg Videos right now

2007-05-21 Thread Bob Mottram
The SIAI videos which are up on google so far look ok. I didn't know that they were actually trying to *build* an AI, as opposed to just raising the generally relevant issues. To the layman this will just look like bunk, since many of these issues aren't yet within the popular zeitgeist. If I

Re: [agi] Intelligence vs Efficient Intelligence

2007-05-21 Thread Shane Legg
Matt, Shane Legg's definition of universal intelligence requires (I believe) complexity but not adaptability. In a universal intelligence test the agent never knows what the environment it is facing is. It can only try to learn from experience and adapt in order to perform well. This means

There is no definition of intelligence [WAS Re: [agi] Intelligence vs Efficient Intelligence]

2007-05-21 Thread Richard Loosemore
Matt Mahoney wrote: --- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Mahoney wrote: I think there is a different role for chaos theory. Richard Loosemore describes a system as intelligent if it is complex and adaptive. NO, no no no no! I already denied this. Misunderstanding: I do

Re: There is no definition of intelligence [WAS Re: [agi] Intelligence vs Efficient Intelligence]

2007-05-21 Thread Pei Wang
Richard, I agree with you that intelligence currently has no classical/objective/true/formal definition. However, I hope your opinion (given the title of the post) won't be understood as you can take intelligence to mean whatever you want, and since the term has no definition, all attempts

Re: There is no definition of intelligence [WAS Re: [agi] Intelligence vs Efficient Intelligence]

2007-05-21 Thread Richard Loosemore
Pei Wang wrote: Richard, I agree with you that intelligence currently has no classical/objective/true/formal definition. However, I hope your opinion (given the title of the post) won't be understood as you can take intelligence to mean whatever you want, and since the term has no definition,

Re: There is no definition of intelligence [WAS Re: [agi] Intelligence vs Efficient Intelligence]

2007-05-21 Thread Pei Wang
Richard, It seems that the major difference between you and me is not on the definition of intelligence, but on the definition of definition. :) Pei On 5/21/07, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pei Wang wrote: Richard, I agree with you that intelligence currently has no

RE: There is no definition of intelligence [WAS Re: [agi] Intelligence vs Efficient Intelligence]

2007-05-21 Thread John G. Rose
So the first AGI gets built and is running for a few months and absorbs copies of all the bits on the internet. Then the AGI designer poses a question to the AGI: What is the definition of intelligence? AGI: Listen pop, I'm just doing my job and minding my own business. Designer: so.. you're

[agi] Re: There is no definition of intelligence

2007-05-21 Thread J Storrs Hall, PhD
The best definition of intelligence comes from (of all people) Hugh Loebner: It's like pornography -- I can't define it exactly, but I like it when I see it. - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to:

[agi] TeXmacs plugin for Mizar

2007-05-21 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
Attention Mizar users: As I think some people on this list are interested in Mizar, http://www.ags.uni-sb.de/~cebrown/mizar-texmacs/mizar-texmacs-tutorial.html Well, TeXmacs vs. Emacs is still an open problem for me. I am all for WYSIWYM, it is essential to look at structural mathematical

[agi] Re: TeXmacs plugin for Mizar

2007-05-21 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
On 5/22/07, Lukasz Stafiniak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: more collective wisdom. But at the level of principles, TeXmacs is [wisdom == knowledge] - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to:

[agi] Parsing theories

2007-05-21 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Any opinions on Operator Grammar vs. Link Grammar? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operator_Grammar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_grammar Link Grammar seems to have spawned practical software, but Operator Grammar has some compelling ideas including coherent selection, information content and

Re: [agi] Parsing theories

2007-05-21 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Handling syntax separately from semantics and pragmatics is hacky and non-AGI-ish ... but, makes it easier to get NLP systems working at a primitive level in a non-embodied context Operator grammar mixes syntax and semantics which is philosophically correct, but makes things harder Link grammar

Re: [agi] Parsing theories

2007-05-21 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
On 5/22/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any opinions on Operator Grammar vs. Link Grammar? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operator_Grammar If you are intrested in Operator Grammar, perhaps you would also want to take a look at Grammatical Framework: