Re: AW: [agi] I Can't Be In Two Places At Once.

2008-10-11 Thread Brad Paulsen
Hart wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, it has, in fact, been tried before. It has, in fact, always failed. Your comments about the quality of Ben's approach are noted. Maybe you're right. But, it's not germane

Re: [agi] It is more important how AGI works than what it can do.

2008-10-11 Thread Brad Paulsen
Dave, Well, I thought I'd described how pretty well. Even why. See my recent conversation with Dr. Heger on this list. I'll be happy to answer specific questions based on those explanations but I'm not going to repeat them here. Simply haven't got the time. Although I have not been

Re: AW: [agi] I Can't Be In Two Places At Once.

2008-10-11 Thread Brad Paulsen
the existing collective-psychology and practical-economic obstacles that hold us back from creating AGI together, and build a beneficial AGI ASAP ... -- Ben G On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:34 AM, David Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Brad

Re: [agi] NARS and probability

2008-10-10 Thread Brad Paulsen
Pei, Ben G. and Abram, Oh, man, is this stuff GOOD! This is the real nitty-gritty of the AGI matter. How does your approach handle counter-evidence? How does your approach deal with insufficient evidence? (Those are rhetorical questions, by the way -- I don't want to influence the course

Re: [agi] It is more important how AGI works than what it can do.

2008-10-06 Thread Brad Paulsen
Dr. Matthias Heger wrote: Brad Pausen wrote The question I'm raising in this thread is more one of priorities and allocation of scarce resources. Engineers and scientists comprise only about 1% of the world's population. Is human-level NLU worth the resources it has consumed, and will

Re: AW: AW: [agi] I Can't Be In Two Places At Once.

2008-10-05 Thread Brad Paulsen
Dr. Matthias Heger wrote: Brad Paulson wrote More generally, as long as AGI designers and developers insist on simulating human intelligence, they will have to deal with the AI-complete problem of natural language understanding. Looking for new approaches to this problem, many researches

Re: AW: AW: AW: [agi] I Can't Be In Two Places At Once.

2008-10-05 Thread Brad Paulsen
Dr. Matthias Heger wrote: Brad Paulson wrote Fortunately, as I argued above, we do have other choices. We don't have to settle for human-like. I do not see so far other choices. Chess is AI but not AGI. Yes, I agree but IFF by AGI you mean human-level AGI. As you point out below, a lot

Re: AW: [agi] I Can't Be In Two Places At Once.

2008-10-05 Thread Brad Paulsen
David Hart wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Unfortunately, as long as the mainstream AGI community continue to hang on to what should, by now, be a thoroughly-discredited strategy, we will never (or too

Re: AW: [agi] I Can't Be In Two Places At Once.

2008-10-04 Thread Brad Paulsen
Dr. Heger, Point #3 is brilliantly stated. I couldn't have expressed it better. And I know this because I've been trying to do so, in slightly broader terms, for months on this list. Insofar as providing an AGI with a human-biased sense of space and time is required to create a human-like AGI

Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-03 Thread Brad Paulsen
PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb. To: agi@v2.listbox.com Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 6:21 AM 2008/10/2 Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It boasts a 50% recognition accuracy rate +/-5 years and an 80% recognition

[agi] Let's face it, this is just dumb.

2008-10-01 Thread Brad Paulsen
This is probably a tad off-topic, but I couldn't help myself. From the Technology-We-Could-Probably-Do-Without files: STEP RIGHT UP, LET THE COMPUTER LOOK AT YOUR FACE AND TELL YOU YOUR AGE http://www.physorg.com/news141394850.html From the article: ...age-recognition algorithms could ...

Re: [agi] NARS vs. PLN [Was: NARS probability]

2008-10-01 Thread Brad Paulsen
Ben wrote: I remain convinced that probability theory is a proper foundation for uncertain inference in an AGI context, whereas Pei remains convinced of the oppositeSo, this is really the essential issue, rather than the particularities of the algebra... But, please, don't stop discussing

[agi] Dangerous Knowledge - A Correction

2008-09-29 Thread Brad Paulsen
Oops! The William Blake poem recited in the Dangerous Knowledge BBC program was not Infinity (that's what Cantor was so concerned about). It was Auguries of Innocence. The passage used in the program (and the one borrowed by Sting) was: To see a world in a grain of sand And a heaven in a

[agi] Dangerous Knowledge

2008-09-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
Recently, someone on this list (I apologize for not making a note of this person's name) raised the question whether we might find a shortcut to AGI. The author went on to opine that, because the problems associated with achieving AGI had been considered by some of the world's most brilliant

[agi] Dangerous Knowledge - Update

2008-09-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
Sorry, but in my drug-addled state I gave the wrong URI for the Dangerous Knowledge videos on YouTube. The one I gave was just to the first part of the Cantor segment. All of the segments can be reached from the link below. You can recreate this link by searching, in YouTube, on the key

[agi] NLP? Nope. NLU? Yep!

2008-09-20 Thread Brad Paulsen
I believe the company mentioned in this article was referenced in an active thread here recently. They claim to have semantically enabled Wikipedia. Their stuff is supposed to have a vocabulary 10x that of the typical U.S. college graduate. Currently being licensed to software developers

[agi] 3D CPU PTO's Peer-to-Peer Patent Review Study

2008-09-16 Thread Brad Paulsen
FIRST 3-D PROCESSOR RUNS AT 1.4 GHZ ON NEW ARCHITECTURE http://www.physorg.com/news140692629.html PROGRAM TURNS TO ONLINE MASSES TO IMPROVE PATENTS http://www.physorg.com/news140672870.html Enjoy, Brad --- agi Archives:

[agi] Will AGI Be Stillborn?

2008-09-08 Thread Brad Paulsen
From the article: A team of biologists and chemists [lab led by Jack Szostak, a molecular biologist at Harvard Medical School] is closing in on bringing non-living matter to life. It's not as Frankensteinian as it sounds. Instead, a lab led by Jack Szostak, a molecular biologist at Harvard

[agi] Remembering Caught in the Act

2008-09-05 Thread Brad Paulsen
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/science/05brain.html?_r=3partner=rssnytemc=rssoref=sloginoref=sloginoref=slogin or, indirectly, http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/05/0138237from=rss --- agi Archives:

[agi] What Time Is It? No. What clock is it?

2008-09-03 Thread Brad Paulsen
Hey gang... It’s Likely That Times Are Changing http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/35992/title/It%E2%80%99s_Likely_That_Times_Are_Changing A century ago, mathematician Hermann Minkowski famously merged space with time, establishing a new foundation for physics; today physicists are

Re: [agi] How Would You Design a Play Machine?

2008-08-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
Eric, It was a real-life near-death experience (auto accident). I'm aware of the tryptamine compound and its presence in hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD. According to Wikipedia, it is not related to the NDE drug of choice which is Ketamine (Ketalar or ketamine HCL -- street name back in

[agi] To sleep, perchance to dream...

2008-08-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
EXPLORING THE FUNCTION OF SLEEP http://www.physorg.com/news138941239.html From the article: Because it is universal, tightly regulated, and cannot be lost without serious harm, Cirelli argues that sleep must have an important core function. But what?

Re: [agi] How Would You Design a Play Machine?

2008-08-27 Thread Brad Paulsen
Terren, OK, you hooked me. A virgin is something I haven't been called (or even been associated with) in about forty-five years. So, I feel compelled to defend my non-virginity at all costs. I'm 58 now. You do the math (don't forget to subtract for the 30 years I was married). ;-) My

Re: [agi] How Would You Design a Play Machine?

2008-08-26 Thread Brad Paulsen
Mike, So you feel that my disagreement with your proposal is sad? That's quite an ego you have there, my friend. You asked for input and you got it. The fact that you didn't like my input doesn't make me or the effort I spent composing it sad. I haven't read all of the replies to your

Re: [agi] How Would You Design a Play Machine?

2008-08-26 Thread Brad Paulsen
of which I'm unaware. (Note that, e.g., shrews don't have much play capability, but they have SOME.) Brad Paulsen wrote: Mike Tintner wrote: ...how would you design a play machine - a machine that can play around as a child does? I wouldn't. IMHO that's just another waste of time and effort

Re: [agi] How Would You Design a Play Machine?

2008-08-25 Thread Brad Paulsen
Mike Tintner wrote: ...how would you design a play machine - a machine that can play around as a child does? I wouldn't. IMHO that's just another waste of time and effort (unless it's being done purely for research purposes). It's a diversion of intellectual and financial resources that

Re: [agi] rpi.edu

2008-08-25 Thread Brad Paulsen
Eric, http://www.cogsci.rpi.edu/research/rair/asc_rca/ Sorry, couldn't answer your question based on quick read. Cheers, Brad Eric Burton wrote: Does anyone know if Rensselaer Institute is still on track to crack the Turing Test by 2009? There was a Slashdot article or two about their

Re: [agi] AGI's Philosophy of Learning

2008-08-19 Thread Brad Paulsen
Abram, Just FYI... When I attempted to access the Web page in your message, http://www.learnartificialneuralnetworks.com/ (that's without the backpropagation.html part), my virus checker, AVG, blocked the attempt with a message similar to the following: Threat detected! Virus found:

[agi] Brains + Sleep, Bird Brains, Brain Rules

2008-08-15 Thread Brad Paulsen
(1) STUDY FINDS THAT SLEEP SELECTIVELY PRESERVES EMOTIONAL MEMORIES http://www.physorg.com/news137908693.html (2) BIG-BRAINED ANIMALS [BIRDS] EVOLVE FASTER http://www.physorg.com/news138003096.html (3) BRAIN RULES Here's a guy selling a book/DVD (Brain Rules) about how to improve your mental

[agi] The results of disembodiment

2008-08-13 Thread Brad Paulsen
Pieces of rat brain controls small robo platform. How's *that* for an out-of-body experience! There's video even!! http://technology.newscientist.com/channel/tech/mg19926696.100-rise-of-the-ratbrained-robots.html Cheers, Brad P.S. Sorry I haven't been participating on the list that much

Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment

2008-08-10 Thread Brad Paulsen
. It will be better at many things beneficial to humanity, it will do those things faster and it will be able to create its own, improved, replacement. I believe this so much that I am betting the rest of my life on it. Cheers, Brad Charles Hixson wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: ... Sigh. Your point

Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment

2008-08-09 Thread Brad Paulsen
Mike Tintner wrote: Bob: As a roboticist I can say that a physical body resembling that of a human isn't really all that important. You can build the most sophisticated humanoid possible, but the problems still boil down to how such a machine should be intelligently directed by its

Re: FWIW: Re: [agi] Groundless reasoning

2008-08-07 Thread Brad Paulsen
as this may be, I think it's getting pretty far off-topic, so I'll stop now. Cheers, Brad Charles Hixson wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: ... Nope. Wrong again. At least you're consistent. That line actually comes from a Cheech and Chong skit (or a movie -- can't remember which at the moment) where

Re: [agi] Groundless reasoning

2008-08-06 Thread Brad Paulsen
Terren Suydam wrote: Brad, I'm not entirely certain this was directed to me, since it seems to be a response to both things I said and things Mike Tintner said. My comments below, where (hopefully) appropriate. --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, excuse me

Re: [agi] Groundless reasoning

2008-08-06 Thread Brad Paulsen
Ben Goertzel wrote: Well, having an intuitive understanding of human language will be useful for an AGI even if its architecture is profoundly nonhumanlike. And, human language is intended to be interpreted based on social, spatiotemporal experience. So the easiest way to make an AGI

Re: [agi] Groundless reasoning

2008-08-06 Thread Brad Paulsen
Jiri, I'd really like to hear more about your approach. Sounds bang-on! Have you written a paper (or worked from papers written by others) to which you could point us? Cheers, Brad Jiri Jelinek wrote: Ben, My perspective on grounding is partially summarized here

Re: [agi] Groundless reasoning

2008-08-06 Thread Brad Paulsen
Mike Tintner wrote: Brad;We don't need no stinkin' grounding. Your intention, I take it, is partly humorous. You are self-consciously assuming the persona of an angry child/adolescent. How do I know that without being grounded in real world conversations? How can you understand the prosody

Re: [agi] Groundless reasoning

2008-08-04 Thread Brad Paulsen
Terren Suydam wrote: I don't know, how do you do it? :-] A human baby that grows up with virtual reality hardware surgically implanted (never to experience anything but a virtual reality) will have the same issues, right? There is no difference in principle between real reality and virtual

Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger politeness code on this list?

2008-08-03 Thread Brad Paulsen
statistics can be. But what really gets me cheezed-off is that Loosemore got first place! :-) Jim Bromer wrote: I seriously meant it to be a friendly statement. Obviously I expressed myself poorly. Jim Bromer On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This from

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-31 Thread Brad Paulsen
Mike, Valentina was referring to a remark I made (and shouldn't have -- just on general principles) about her making my *personal* kill-list thanks to the LOL she left regarding Richard Loosemore's original reply to the post that started this thread. I should have taken a time out before I

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-30 Thread Brad Paulsen
, there are either zero associations or none with the potential to count as an answer. --Abram On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt, I confess, I'm not sure I understand your response. It seems to be a variant of the critique made by three people early-on in this thread

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-30 Thread Brad Paulsen
Richard Loosemore wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: Richard Loosemore wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: All, Here's a question for you: What does fomlepung mean? If your immediate (mental) response was I don't know. it means you're not a slang-slinging Norwegian. But, how did your brain

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-30 Thread Brad Paulsen
cheerleader, she's just made my kill-list. The only thing worse than someone who slings unsupported opinions around like they're facts, is someone who slings someone else's unsupported opinions around like they're facts. Who is Mark Waser? Cheers, Brad Richard Loosemore wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-30 Thread Brad Paulsen
, if you feel that I insulted you I am quite willing to apologize for what (from my point of view) was an accident of prose style. Richard Loosemore Brad Paulsen wrote: Richard, Someone who can throw comments like Isn't this a bit of a no-brainer? and Keeping lists of 'things not known

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-30 Thread Brad Paulsen
Richard Loosemore wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: James, Someone ventured the *opinion* that keeping such a list of things I don't know was nonsensical, but I have yet to see any evidence or well-reasoned argument backing that opinion. So, it's just an opinion. One with which I, obviously

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Brad Paulsen
Richard Loosemore wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: All, Here's a question for you: What does fomlepung mean? If your immediate (mental) response was I don't know. it means you're not a slang-slinging Norwegian. But, how did your brain produce that feeling of not knowing? And, how did

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Brad Paulsen
in our mindset. And for the other one, it would just be a strait term match. James Ratcliff ___ James Ratcliff - http://falazar.com Looking for something... --- On *Mon, 7/28/08, Brad Paulsen /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: From: Brad Paulsen [EMAIL

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Brad Paulsen
Valentina, Well, the LOL is on you. Richard failed to add anything new to the two previous responses that each posited linguistic surface feature analysis as being responsible for generate the feeling of not knowing with that *particular* (and, admittedly poorly-chosen) example query. This

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-29 Thread Brad Paulsen
28, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Here's a question for you: What does fomlepung mean? If your immediate (mental) response was I don't know. it means you're not a slang-slinging Norwegian. But, how did your brain produce that feeling of not knowing? And, how

[agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
All, Here's a question for you: What does fomlepung mean? If your immediate (mental) response was I don't know. it means you're not a slang-slinging Norwegian. But, how did your brain produce that feeling of not knowing? And, how did it produce that feeling so fast? Your brain may

Re: [agi] How do we know we don't know?

2008-07-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
Jim Bromer wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, What does fomlepung mean? If your immediate (mental) response was I don't know. it means you're not a slang-slinging Norwegian. But, how did your brain produce that feeling of not knowing

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Brad Paulsen
http://www.forebrain.org http://www.charactervalues.com http://www.charactervalues.org http://www.charactervalues.net - Original Message - From: Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL

[agi] Pretty soon, there will be nowhere to hide!

2008-07-22 Thread Brad Paulsen
All, DUTCH RESEARCHERS TAKE FLIGHT WITH THREE-GRAM 'DRAGONFLY' http://www.physorg.com/news135936047.html Some may consider this a bit off-topic, but it has an undeniable way cool factor. Be sure to watch the video (YouTube link in the article). Come to think of it, since everything has

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Brad Paulsen
Ah... And just what the hell is your problem? And I mean that in the friendliest way possible. Just what the HELL is your problem? Brad Jim Bromer wrote: Brad Paulsen Said: Mr. LaMuth, You are correct, sir. I should not have called you a patent troll. It was not only harsh

Re: FW: [agi] WHAT PORTION OF CORTICAL PROCESSES ARE BOUND BY THE BINDING PROBLEM?

2008-07-17 Thread Brad Paulsen
Mike, If memory serves, this thread started out as a discussion about binding in an AGI context. At some point, the terms forward-chaining and backward-chaining were brought up and, then, got used in a weird way (I thought) as the discussion turned to temporal dependencies and hierarchical

Re: FW: [agi] WHAT PORTION OF CORTICAL PROCESSES ARE BOUND BY THE BINDING PROBLEM?

2008-07-16 Thread Brad Paulsen
Richard Loosemore wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: I've been following this thread pretty much since the beginning. I hope I didn't miss anything subtle. You'll let me know if I have, I'm sure. ;=) It appears the need for temporal dependencies or different levels of reasoning has been

Re: FW: [agi] WHAT PORTION OF CORTICAL PROCESSES ARE BOUND BY THE BINDING PROBLEM?

2008-07-15 Thread Brad Paulsen
I've been following this thread pretty much since the beginning. I hope I didn't miss anything subtle. You'll let me know if I have, I'm sure. ;=) It appears the need for temporal dependencies or different levels of reasoning has been conflated with the terms forward-chaining (FWC) and

Re: [agi] Interesting article about EU's open source AGI robot program

2008-07-12 Thread Brad Paulsen
Below is a short list of robot kits available from some on-line resellers. I have no connection to any of the companies or Web sites mentioned nor have I used and of the kits listed here.

[agi] More Brain Matter(s)...

2008-07-12 Thread Brad Paulsen
All, RESEARCH IDENTIFIES BRAIN CELLS RELATED TO FEAR http://www.physorg.com/news134969685.html Cheers, Brad --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your

[agi] And, now, from the newsroom...

2008-07-09 Thread Brad Paulsen
WHY MUSICIANS MAKE US WEEP AND COMPUTERS DON'T http://www.physorg.com/news134795617.html DO WE THINK THAT MACHINES CAN THINK? http://www.physorg.com/news134797615.html Cheers, Brad --- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS

[agi] Larrabee - Intel's Response to Nvidia's GPU Platform

2008-07-07 Thread Brad Paulsen
Hi Kids! http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/602910/rumour-control-larrabee-based-on-32-original-pentium-cores.html# Cheers, Brad --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/

Re: [agi] need some help with loopy Bayes net

2008-07-04 Thread Brad Paulsen
YKY, I'm not certain this applies directly to your issue, but it's an interesting paper nonetheless: http://web.mit.edu/cocosci/Papers/nips00.ps. Cheers, Brad YKY (Yan King Yin) wrote: I'm considering nonmonotonic reasoning using Bayes net, and got stuck. There is an example on p483 of J

Re: Savants and user-interfaces [was Re: [agi] WHAT SORT OF HARDWARE $33K AND $850K BUYS TODAY FOR USE IN AGI

2008-07-01 Thread Brad Paulsen
I was nearly kicked out of school in seventh grade for coming up with a method of manipulating (multiplying, dividing) large numbers in my head using what I later learned was a shift-reduce method. It was similar to this: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/742717/human_calculator/ My seventh

[agi] You Say Po-tay-toe, I Sign Po-toe-tay...

2008-07-01 Thread Brad Paulsen
Greetings Fellow Knowledge Workers... WHEN USING GESTURES, RULES OF GRAMMAR REMAIN THE SAME http://www.physorg.com/news134065200.html The link title is a bit misleading. You'll see what I mean when you read it. Enjoy, Brad --- agi Archives:

Re: [agi] Approximations of Knowledge

2008-06-30 Thread Brad Paulsen
Richard, Thanks for your comments. Very interesting. I'm looking forward to reading the introductory book by Waldrop. Thanks again! Cheers, Brad Richard Loosemore wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: Richard, I think I'll get the older Waldrop book now because I want to learn more about

Re: [agi] Approximations of Knowledge

2008-06-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
Richard, I presume this is the Waldrop Complexity book to which you referred: Complexity: The Emerging Science at the Edge of Order and Chaos M. Mitchell Waldrop, 1992, $10.20 (new, paperback) from Amazon (used copies also available)

Re: [agi] Approximations of Knowledge

2008-06-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
Or, maybe... Complexity: Life at the Edge of Chaos Roger Lewin, 2000 $10.88 (new, paperback) from Amazon (no used copies) Complexity: Life at the Edge of Chaos by Roger Lewin (Paperback - Feb 15, 2000) Brad Richard Loosemore wrote: Jim Bromer wrote: From: Richard Loosemore Jim, I'm sorry:

Re: [agi] Approximations of Knowledge

2008-06-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
a lookout for the new book in 2009. Thanks very much for the information! Cheers, Brad Richard Loosemore wrote: Brad Paulsen wrote: Or, maybe... Complexity: Life at the Edge of Chaos Roger Lewin, 2000 $10.88 (new, paperback) from Amazon (no used copies) Complexity: Life at the Edge of Chaos

Re: [agi] WHAT SORT OF HARDWARE $33K AND $850K BUYS TODAY FOR USE IN AGI

2008-06-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
Richard and Ed, Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein Prelude to insanity: unintentionally doing the same thing over and over again and getting the same results. - Me Cheers, Brad Richard Loosemore wrote: Ed Porter wrote:

[agi] As we inch closer to The Singularity...

2008-06-24 Thread Brad Paulsen
Hey Gang... RESEARCHERS DEVELOP NEURAL IMPLANT THAT LEARNS WITH THE BRAIN http://www.physorg.com/news133535377.html I wonder what *that* software looks like! Cheers, Brad --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed:

[agi] Have you hugged a cephalopod today?

2008-06-17 Thread Brad Paulsen
From The More stuff we already know department... NEW RESEARCH ON OCTOPUSES SHEDS LIGHT ON MEMORY http://www.physorg.com/news132920831.html Cheers, Brad --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed:

[agi] Learning without Understanding?

2008-06-16 Thread Brad Paulsen
Hear Ye, Hear Ye... CHILDREN LEARN SMART BEHAVIORS WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEY KNOW http://www.physorg.com/news132839991.html Cheers, Brad And, remember: think twice, code once! --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed:

[agi] RoboSex?

2008-06-15 Thread Brad Paulsen
Fellow AGIers, Every once in a while this list could use a bit of intentional humor. Unfortunately, I think these guys are serious: IN 2050, YOUR LOVER MAY BE A ... ROBOT http://www.physorg.com/news132727834.html Pacis progredior, Brad --- agi

Re: [agi] IBM, Los Alamos scientists claim fastest computer

2008-06-12 Thread Brad Paulsen
If anyone is interested, I have some additional information on the C870 NVIDIA Tesla card. I'll be happy to send it to you off-list. Just contact me directly. Cheers, Brad --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed:

[agi] How the brain separates audio signals from noise

2008-06-11 Thread Brad Paulsen
Hi Kids! Article summary: http://www.physorg.com/news132290651.html Article text: http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-documentdoi=10.1371/journal.pbio.0060138ct=1 Enjoy! --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now

[agi] Forget talk to the animals. Talk directly to their cells.

2008-06-06 Thread Brad Paulsen
All, Not specifically AGI-related, but too interesting not to pass along, so: SWEET NOTHINGS: ARTIFICIAL VESICLES AND BACTERIAL CELLS COMMUNICATE BY WAY OF SUGAR COMPONENTS http://www.physorg.com/news131883741.html Cheers, Brad --- agi Archives:

Re: Are rocks conscious? (was RE: [agi] Did this message get completely lost?)

2008-06-04 Thread Brad Paulsen
J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote: Actually, the nuclear spins in the rock encode a single state of an ongoing computation (which is conscious). Successive states occur in the rock's counterparts in adjacent branes of the metauniverse, so that the rock is conscious not of unfolding time, as we see

Re: [agi] Did this message get completely lost?

2008-06-04 Thread Brad Paulsen
John G. Rose wrote: From: Brad Paulsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Not exactly (to start with, you can *never* be 100% sure, try though you might :-) ). Take all of the investigations into rockness since the dawn of homo sapiens and we still only have a 0.9995 probability that rocks

Re: Are rocks conscious? (was RE: [agi] Did this message get completely lost?)

2008-06-04 Thread Brad Paulsen
But, without us droids, how would you verify/validate your consciousness? And, think about what you'd be taking over. As Sting says, What good's a world that's all used up? Rhetorical questions, both. When I start quoting Sting lyrics, I *know* it's time for me to get off a thread. Ta!

Re: [agi] Did this message get completely lost?

2008-06-03 Thread Brad Paulsen
in the definition of that word? I smell a project! Let's build a dictionary that contains nothing but circular definitions. For example: definition - Of or relating to or characteristic of defining something. From: Brad Paulsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John wrote: A rock is either

Re: [agi] Ideological Interactions Need to be Studied

2008-06-02 Thread Brad Paulsen
Richard Loosemore wrote: Anyone at the time who knew that Isaac Newton was trying to do could have dismissed his efforts and said Idiot! Planetary motion is simple. Ptolemy explained it in a simple way. I use simplicity-preferring prior, so epicycles are good enough for me. Which is why

Re: [agi] Did this message get completely lost?

2008-06-02 Thread Brad Paulsen
John wrote: A rock is either conscious or not conscious. Excluding the middle, are we? I don't want to put words into Ben company's mouths, but I think what they are trying to do with PLN is to implement a system that expressly *includes the middle*. In theory (but not necessarily

[agi] More brain scanning and language

2008-06-02 Thread Brad Paulsen
Hey kids: A COMPUTER THAT CAN 'READ' YOUR MIND http://www.physorg.com/news131623779.html Cheers, Brad --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your

[agi] U.S. Plan for 'Thinking Machines' Repository

2008-05-28 Thread Brad Paulsen
Fellow AGI-ers, At the risk of being labeled the list's newsboy... U.S. Plan for 'Thinking Machines' Repository Posted by samzenpus on Wednesday May 28, @07:19PM from the save-those-ideas-for-later dept. An anonymous reader writes Information scientists organized by the U.S.'s NIST say

[agi] Phoenix has Landed

2008-05-25 Thread Brad Paulsen
Hi Gang! The first Phoenix Lander pix from Mars: http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=315cID=7 Cheers, Brad --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your

[agi] More Phoenix Info...

2008-05-25 Thread Brad Paulsen
Hi again... As I write this I'm watching the post-landing NASA press conference live on NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html). One of the NASA people was talking about what a difficult navigation problem they'd successfully overcome. His analogy was, It was like golfing

Re: [agi] Porting MindForth AI into JavaScript Mind.html

2008-05-18 Thread Brad Paulsen
John, Yeah. And look how well that worked. It didn't. Most people who post drivel to lists like this honestly don't think they're posting drivel. Their ignorance runs very, very deep (in many cases to the point of clinical self-delusion). It is as deep as their conviction that they are

[agi] WikiMining with Java

2008-05-18 Thread Brad Paulsen
Some of you may be interesting in this WikiMining Java API: http://www.ukp.tu-darmstadt.de/software/JWPL. JWPL is the acronym for Java WikiPedia Library. The license isn't open source. But, it is available at no charge for non-commercial use in research. It's from an academic project in

[agi] Re: Accidental Genius

2008-05-09 Thread Brad Paulsen
, May 7, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I happened to catch a program on National Geographic Channel today entitled Accidental Genius. It was quite interesting from an AGI standpoint. One of the researchers profiled has invented a device that, by sending electromagnetic

[agi] Accidental Genius

2008-05-07 Thread Brad Paulsen
I happened to catch a program on National Geographic Channel today entitled Accidental Genius. It was quite interesting from an AGI standpoint. One of the researchers profiled has invented a device that, by sending electromagnetic pulses through a person's skull to the appropriate spot in the

[agi] Panda: a pattern-based programming system

2008-05-02 Thread Brad Paulsen
Readers of these lists might enjoy the refereed paper Overview of the Panda Programming System (http://www.jot.fm:80/issues/issue_2008_05/article1/) described in the following abstract: This article provides an overview of a pattern-based programming system, named Panda, for automatic

Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-16 Thread Brad Paulsen
Steve Josh, You guys ought to get a kick out of this: http://www.physorg.com:80/news127452360.html. We don't need no stinking gigahertz circuits when we can have terahertz guided-wave circuits. That's 1000 times faster than gigahertz (but, of course, you know that). Based on the terahertz

[agi] Posting Strategies - A Gentle Reminder

2008-04-14 Thread Brad Paulsen
Dear Fellow AGI List Members: Just thought I'd remind the good members of this list about some strategies for dealing with certain types of postings. Unfortunately, the field of AI/AGI is one of those areas where anybody with a pulse and a brain thinks they can design a program that thinks.

Re: [agi] Big Dog

2008-04-11 Thread Brad Paulsen
What's really impressive is how natural the leg movements are. I was flashing to images of young horses navigating rough terrain. - Original Message - From: Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: [agi] Big Dog Peruse