On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 11:34:09AM +0200, Shane Legg wrote:
The wiring is not determined by the genome, it's only a facility
envelope.
Some wiring is genetic, and some is not. On a large scale genes
No, the wiring is not genetically determined. There is no specific gene
On 4/4/07, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how do you reconcile the fact that babies are very stupid compared to
adults? Babies have no less genetic hardware than adults but the
difference
The wiring is not determined by the genome, it's only a facility envelope.
Some wiring is
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 12:20:54PM +0200, Shane Legg wrote:
That two specific neurons are not wired together due to genetics does
not mean
that there is not wiring that is genetically determined. The brain
contains a huge
about of wiring information that comes from the genes.
On 4/5/07, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I forget the exact number, but I think something like 20% of the
human
genome describes the brain. If somebody is interested in building a
No, it codes for the brain tissue. That's something very different from
describing the brain. See
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 02:03:32PM +0200, Shane Legg wrote:
I didn't mean to imply that all this was for wiring, just that there
is a sizable
about of information used to construct the brain that comes from the
genes.
No disagreement. Apart from sizable. A few gigabases doesn't
Unless I am much mistaken, this is what Eugen is trying to say:
If we were aliens, trying to understand a bunch of chess-playing IBM
supercomputers that we had just discovered on an expedition to Earth, we
might start by noticing that they all had very similar gross wiring
patterns, where
- Original Message -
From: Shane Legg
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [agi] Growing a Brain in Switzerland
Yes, I agree, it's in the data rather than the code. But I don't accept
that you can say that their model is simple
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 03:24:16PM -0700, Matt Mahoney wrote:
Kind of like modeling a microprocessor using finite element analysis. It's
good for studying transistor design but not for studying database design.
The brain, unlike the computer, is a machine which is built on
emergence and
On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 08:23:37AM -0700, David Clark wrote:
Although some emergent and self-organization surely occurs in our brains,
I meant is that the trouble with biology is that it's difficult to
analyse without having access to the whole picture. Unlike human designs,
which can be
Thanks for the detailed response.
- Original Message -
From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [agi] Growing a Brain in Switzerland
The learning part is not really relevant, because typically you would
plug
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