Ben: Research grants for AGI are very hard to come by in the US, and from
what I hear, elsewhere in the world also
That sounds like - no academically convincing case has been made for
pursuing not just long-term AGI its more grandiose ambitions (which is
understandable/ obviously v.
Mike,
The lack of AGI funding can't be attributed solely to its risky nature,
because other highly costly and highly risk research has been consistently
funded.
For instance, a load of $$ has been put into building huge particle
accelerators, in the speculative hope that they might tell us
I'd like to propose two somewhat related papers:
(Graph-Based Domain Mapping for Transfer Learning in General Games
Gregory Kuhlmann, Peter Stone)
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~pstone/Papers/bib2html/b2hd-ECML07-rulegraphs.html
Intrinsically Motivated Reinforcement Learning
Nuttapong
Ben,
For the record yet again, I certainly believe *robotic* AGI is possible - I
disagree only with the particular approaches I have seen.
I disagree re the importance/attractiveness of achieving small AGI. Hey,
just about all animals are v. limited by comparison with humans in their
Well, robotics has typically been better funded than AI, a fact that I
attribute to many peoples' intuitive liking for paying for building physical
stuff rather than just software ...
I admit I'm not a professional salesman, but OTOH I've been keeping a small
business with ~20 staff afloat for 7
Mike,
I have a personal question for you
It seems to me that
a)
You think almost everyone on this list is profoundly misguided in their
research direction, and in their understanding of the deeper issues
underlying their research.
b)
You are not professionally working in the AGI domain
c)
Cognitive computing: Building a machine that can learn from experience
http://www.physorg.com/news148754667.html
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Cognitive computing: Building a machine that can learn from experience
http://www.physorg.com/news148754667.html
Neuroscience vaporware.
Richard Loosemore
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On 12/18/08, Richard Loosemore r...@lightlink.com wrote:
Rafael C.P. wrote:
Cognitive computing: Building a machine that can learn from experience
http://www.physorg.com/news148754667.html
Neuroscience vaporware.
It isn't neuroscience yet, because they haven't done any science
Ben,
Good question. Firstly, I learn a lot here, for wh. I'm v. grateful. But your
question is: why deal with people so opposed to you? Very broadly, the reason
is: the people most opposed to you, (provided they're intelligent), are just
those who force you to articulate your ideas most
thx for the reply!
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Anyway, to answer you simply - conflict is v. fruitful, if you embrace it.
(Jerry Rubin expounded this POV well in Do It! )
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I've always been more of an Abbie Hoffman guy, but ... sure...
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More specifically, AGI-ers -as I have in part explained - are almost
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Ben Goertzel b...@goertzel.org wrote:
I don't think there's any lack of creativity in the AGI world ... and I
think it's pretty clear that rationality and creativity work together in all
really good scientific work.
Creativity is about coming up with new
Ben:I don't think there's any lack of creativity in the AGI world ... and I
think it's pretty clear that rationality and creativity work together in all
really good scientific work.Creativity is about coming up with new ideas.
Rationality is about validating ideas, and deriving their natural
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Mike Tintner tint...@blueyonder.co.ukwrote:
Ben:I don't think there's any lack of creativity in the AGI world ... and
I think it's pretty clear that rationality and creativity work together in
all really good scientific work.Creativity is about coming up with
Steve Richfield wrote:
Richard,
On 12/18/08, *Richard Loosemore* r...@lightlink.com
mailto:r...@lightlink.com wrote:
Rafael C.P. wrote:
Cognitive computing: Building a machine that can learn from
experience
http://www.physorg.com/news148754667.html
DARPA buys G.Tononi for 4.9 $Million! For what amounts to little more
than vague hopes that any of us here could have dreamed up. Here I am, up to
my armpits in an actual working proposition with a real science basis...
scrounging for pennies. hmmm...maybe if I sidle up and adopt an aging
YKY (Yan King Yin) wrote:
DARPA buys G.Tononi for 4.9 $Million! For what amounts to little more
than vague hopes that any of us here could have dreamed up. Here I am, up to
my armpits in an actual working proposition with a real science basis...
scrounging for pennies. hmmm...maybe if I
On Dec 18, 2008, at 10:09 PM, Colin Hales wrote:
I think I covered this in a post a while back but FYI... I am a
little 'left-field' in the AGI circuit in that my approach involves
literal replication of the electromagnetic field structure of brain
material. This is in contrast to a
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