Shane Legg wrote:
Funding is certainly a problem. I'd like to work on my own AGI ideas
after my PhD is over next year... but can I get money to do that?
Probably not. So as a compromise I'll have to work on something else
in AI during the day, and spend my weekends doing the stuff I'd
really
Thanks, all, for those insightful answers. In combination with the published discussion of the topic, this thread is enlightening. Still, to push the point, I am fantasizing a conversation with a Hypothetical Open-Minded World-Renowned Eloquent Cognitive Scientist (Howecs). Surely there must be a
Eliezer,Shane, what would you do if you had your headway?Say, you won the
lottery tomorrow (ignoring the fact that no rational person would buy aticket).Not just AGI - what specifically would you sit down and doall day?I've got a list of things I'd like to be working on. For example, I'd like to
Joshua Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to raise a FAQ: Why is so little AGI research and development being
done?
Perhaps it's just a matter of faith -- some believe in it, and some don't ;-)
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I'd like to raise a FAQ: Why is so little AGI research and development being done?The answers of Goertzel, Moravec, Kurzweil, Voss, and others all agree on this (no need to repeat them here), and I've read
Are We Spiritual Machines, but I come away unsatisfied. (Still, if there is nothing more
Joshua Fox wrote:
I'd like to raise a FAQ: Why is so little AGI research and development
being done?
The answers of Goertzel, Moravec, Kurzweil, Voss, and others all agree
on this (no need to repeat them here), and I've read Are We Spiritual
Machines, but I come away unsatisfied. (Still, if
I considered and researched this issue thoroughly
a few years ago.
For a summary: http://adaptiveai.com/faq/index.htm#few_researchers
For detail: http://adaptiveai.com/research/index.htm
(section 8)
In addition to asking researchers you also
need to look at psychological and hidden
Yes, an important point. For our project
we invented a new profession: AI psychologist.
It is very hard to find computer
scientists who are comfortable thinking about a program (AGI) in terms of teaching,
training and psychology. Conversely, developmental and cognitive psychologists
Good question.
I and Ben are drafting an introductory chapter for the AGIRI Workshop
Proceedings, and in it we want to list the major objections to AGI
research, then reject them one by one. Now the list includes the
following:
1. AGI is impossible --- such as the opinions from Lucas, Dreyfus,
Hi.
the establishment are not on board. I just can't believe that , for
example, almost all leading
computer-science/cognitive-science professors are
herd-following closed-minded stuck-in-the-muds. The leading universities do
have their share of creative, free-thinking, inquisitive people, and
On 9/13/06, Joshua Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to raise a FAQ: Why is so little AGI research and development being done?
Time and money. AGI takes too long. When people spend several years on
something for no result whatsoever, they quite reasonably find
something more productive to do
I would add that previous more-or-less general AI
projects have not greatly exceeded their modest
expectations. So given this experience perhaps there
is a tendency among potential sponsors to classify new
AGI projects as crackpot schemes.
-Steve
--- Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good
On 9/13/06, Stephen Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would add that previous more-or-less general AIprojects have not greatly exceeded their modestexpectations.So given this experience perhaps thereis a tendency among potential sponsors to classify newAGI projects as crackpot schemes.
And let's be
Joshua Fox wrote:
I'd like to raise a FAQ: Why is so little AGI research and development
being done?
...
Thanks,
Joshua
What proportion of the work that is being done do you believe you are
aware of? On what basis?
My suspicion is that most people on the track of something new tend to
be
PS. http://adaptiveai.com/company/opportunities.htm
This also reminds me of something, and I know it's true of myself, and I think
it might be generally true. It seems like people tend to have their own ideas
of what they want to be done, and they are just not very interested in working
on
Why in other fields of AI, or CS in general, do many people work on
other people's ideas?
I guess the AGI ideas are still not convincing and attractive enough
to other people.
Pei
On 9/13/06, Andrew Babian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS. http://adaptiveai.com/company/opportunities.htm
This
I recall a recruiter from a CS PhD program (maybe UW?) citing that AI
students take one year longer on average to complete their PhD because
they spend the first year convinced that they've struck upon an idea
which is going to be the solution to general AI. I agree with this
assessment -- I
AGI ideas that are well developed can be quite concrete, as well as having
payoffs in the near future. Our project's business plan aims to do both.
Peter
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From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Additional factor: AGI ideas are often vague or
This is a question that I've thought about from time to time. The conclusionI've come to is that there isn't really one or two reasons, there are many.Surprisingly, most people in academic AI aren't really all that into AI.
It's a job. It's more interesting than doing database programming ina
I think that's an insightful summary which really matches very well my
experience of people doing academic research on AI. There are
really exceptionally few of the hard core people who are just
relentlessly persuing it year after year. Many people doing
computer science courses take an interest
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