RE: [agi] Mounting Evidence, Massive Multi-Agent Intelligence

As a point of departure; everything that exists is quanta. Creation, in the sense of that which is, does not depend on our belief systems. In other words, the universe functions as it does, no matter what humans believe about it. We may alter the relative reality of creation, but we cannot

RE: [agi] Mounting Evidence, Massive Multi-Agent Intelligence

A new perspective, from our earth night sky. Subject: Re: [agi] Mounting Evidence, Massive Multi-Agent Intelligence From: sokratis...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 20:37:14 +0100 To: a...@listbox.com On 28.03.2015, at 18:18, Benjamin Kapp benk...@gmail.com wrote: Does this

RE: [agi] Half a Wish...

Hi everyone Unfortunately, I am restricted in how much time I get to spend on the agi forum. Therefore I'd like to ask you to please indulge my opinion this one time. It started off as a 2-paragraph opinion, but then I realized there actually was a lot more to be said that I previously

RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

Steve, here's some input. Colin stated: Because it's not using neurons it won't automatically mimic brains in structure. I have no idea what a brain will look like. Physically its a crystalline rock. No actual material growth. I think Colin is building a generic platform for generative,

RE: [agi] Re: Starting to Define Algorithms that are More Powerfulthan Narrow AI

Hi Colin You seem to be following a similar process to AI as to what was used to develop the first, nuclear bomb - various approaches were used coupled with great experimentation. Semantically, your inclusion of the term emergent in your last message undersores this approach for me. I'd like

RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

and interact? Come on. Show me something. -GJS On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies nano...@live.com wrote: Steve, here's some input. Colin stated: Because it's not using neurons it won't automatically mimic brains in structure. I have no idea what a brain

RE: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis

@Russ Thank you for the link. Most useful. Rob From: rhurl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 02:55:30 + Subject: Re: [agi] Restating Colin's Hypothesis To: a...@listbox.com @Steve, Colin The link here provides a list of papers that I pulled together from prior research in hope of

RE: [agi] Re: Starting to Define Algorithms that are More Powerful than Narrow AI

of Morpheus with a red pill and ... yeah metaphor overdose. You get the picture. cheers Colin.(This email or something like this will appear in the new book) On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies nano...@live.com wrote: Colin Fascinating thread and subject matter. Just

RE: [agi] Re: Starting to Define Algorithms that are More Powerfulthan Narrow AI

Colin Fascinating thread and subject matter. Just a general question please. How certain are you that some governmental scientists somewhere have not already done this research and constructed such bio-machines? You may be surprised, or disappointed even, to find that you're not the only

RE: [agi] Mounting Evidence, Massive Multi-Agent Intelligence

in this complex fractal duality in 8-space potential… everything boils down to a few dots. Coffee time J John From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies [mailto:nano...@live.com] Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 4:31 AM To: AGI Subject: RE: [agi] Mounting Evidence, Massive Multi-Agent Intelligence

RE: [agi] Re: At last, an intuitive, explanatory, scientific theory of consciousness

Thank you for this interesting debate. You have both managed to answer a key question on illusion I have really been battling away with. Maybe consciousness is simply being aware enough to know what is happening inside and outside the mind and in between the two, relative realities. Date:

RE: [agi] Design notes for a new parallel computing language

Yes! andwhat if the data was mutated separately-similarly (in a fractal sense) in conjunction with use contexts (in the sense of mutable states)? Would that not provide two, separate systems hierarchies for enabling dynamically-threaded processing? Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:16:30 +0800

RE: [agi] The Computational Theory of Consciousness

Ben Thank you for sharing your paper. I found it most interesting. We seem to be searching for an adaptive, superstate system. Considering Haramein's contribution on infinity and unified, quantum entanglement, I would think one would be able to approach this question a lot more pragmatically

RE: [agi] Machine faith

I will take one last try to make a connection... On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies <nano...@live.com> wrote: Steve Your points are duly noted. However, your direct implication that you alone know and understand the "real" meaning and/or validity of

RE: [agi] Machine faith

but when guidance is presented, Richard rejects it. Richard's word seem to echo many others I have talked with, who are unable to get their arms around this subject. Steve On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies <nano...@live.com> wrote: S

RE: [agi] Machine faith

Steve You addressed your opinion to Ben and Tim, but you indirectly addressed around 3 billion persons in the world in a public manner as well. I, for one, would like to respond to your words and sentiment, if I may? You seemingly equate the limited opinion of man with the possible reality of

RE: [agi] Machine faith

Steve Thank you for your message and reference material. This is a strange experience to me. I encountered your research on low-body temperature a while ago, but I did not realize it was you till I looked at your website. This, because I was looking for a reliable treatment/cure for

RE: [agi] The Computational Theory of Consciousness

Benjamin Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 11:58:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [agi] The Computational Theory of Consciousness From: ewpor...@gmail.com To: a...@listbox.com Dear Nanograte Knowledge Technologies, (Prescript: I am cutting lines short because for some reason Gmailis not word wrapping this morning.) Since

RE: [agi] Machine faith

nd I wouldn't dream of challenging that. You obviously can't handle the truth. All I ask is to stop feeding your chosen narcotic to children and others who aren't yet armed with the logical tools needed to dismiss illogical beliefs, like most of Christianity. Steve ====== On Tue

Re: [agi] AGI for President

Seems we've run out of useful discussion. Typical Americans to think all the readers on this forum care about their confused politics. But we do. We really, really do! A good friend of mine said something to the effect that when a computer would lie and bamboozle (my words = pass the

Re: [agi] AGI for President

Your form-to-content comment refers. I also stated that being able to lie and beguile humans may well constitute an effective Turing test. A point on content, th emost relevant point to my mind, you seemingly chose to ignore. Sounds like any ole president to me. No wonder Hillary-Trump (nee

Re: [agi] Re: Digest for AGI

For XAI to be possible, it requires a context manager, which could deal with pure mutation and exponential optimization within a single, coherent framework and methodology. It took me 22 years to R such a framework and methodology. Without it, I cannot see how machine decisions could ever be

Re: [agi] Re: Digest for AGI

XAI) but I just don't feel that creating recognition nets that could recognize the components of other learning nets has much potential in the short term. I've been wrong about a lot of things before so I could be wrong about this. I am not sure what Nanograte Knowledge Technologies was talking about when h

Re: [agi] IIT: Conscious Programming Structures

gmail accounts could be anybody. Even a bot. Let's see if we can tell which one is human and which one is a bot. From: Jan Matusiewicz Sent: 20 February 2017 11:19 AM To: AGI Subject: Re: [agi] IIT: Conscious Programming Structures I

Re: [agi] IIT: Conscious Programming Structures

I understand that AGI specifically pertains to machine intelligence copying human functionality. Further, I understand how XAI might be something way beyond AGI, specific to tracing and predicting highly-abstract decision making. Last, I understand that the obsession with studying the human

Re: [agi] IIT: Conscious Programming Structures

Unless manifested in the flesh as a real person, there exists a 50% possibility that any digital persona may be a bot. To be real, perhaps humans must stop messing around when communicating in the blind? Any AI machine can take human-like responses and replicate them in a particular context.

Re: [agi] Politically Incorrect AGI, the Machined Learned Racism Problem

"AGI should show us the truth. It shouldn't be deliberately biased. And this is the best weapon against racism. Racism is irrational - it comes from, built in human nature, bias against aliens." So, given that the preferred model to base AGI on - the human brain - is thus fallible, we should

Re: [agi] IIT: Conscious Programming Structures

Why give AGI the credit when it remains the work of smart people who figured out how to automate public opinion? The logic for this is at least 10 years old. This does not qualify the machine to be credited with consciousness. I think it more resembles a magic show, where it uses illusions to

Re: [agi] AI - XPrize

Well said Mike. That is chump money if you consider how many novel ideas and detailed plans they are going to be able to harvest from a possible prize. Imagine doing 20 years of self-funded research and giving it away for a chance to get noticed by the moguls of the AI empire? On the other

Re: [agi] I Still Do Not Believe That Probability Is a Good Basis for AGI

The purpose of specification is to unify the design. It is not up to programmers to re-invent the design, but to apply themselves fully to realizing the functional objectives they are assigned to. Thus, the issue should not be one of managing programmers, but specification and programming

Re: [agi] I Still Do Not Believe That Probability Is a Good Basis for AGI

signed one particular abstraction. It is a little like an exaggeration. You can use probable methods on relative knowledge (or knowledge that can be seen as relativistic), but that is not the only abstraction (abstract process) that would be needed by a would-be AGI program to 'understand'

Re: [agi] I Still Do Not Believe That Probability Is a Good Basis for AGI

Thanks Jim. That was a good read that got me thinking. What if probability graphs/nets were seamlessly integrated with computation arithmetic via a reliable translation or deabstraction schema? Meaning, each already have their own models. Within computer science, are they mutually exclusive,

Re: [agi] I Still Do Not Believe That Probability Is a Good Basis for AGI

Bromer On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:05 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies <nano...@live.com<mailto:nano...@live.com>> wrote: Thanks Jim. That was a good read that got me thinking. What if probability graphs/nets were seamlessly integrated with computation arithmetic via a re

Re: [agi] I Still Do Not Believe That Probability Is a Good Basis for AGI

proves our understanding of reality, and our projections are better. But, to get the ball rolling we need to rely on assumptions." I think this is a rather significant point you're making. A hypothesis is also an assumption. It takes research methodology to turn it into a tangible r

Re: [agi] I Still Do Not Believe That Probability Is a Good Basis for AGI

The basis for AGI should be machine consciousness. Probability, or not probability, is but one of the reasoning tools. Likewise, so are abstraction and deabstration. I think we are getting hung up on the small stuff. To progress: Here is an overview of a suggested programmable architecture for

Re: [agi] I Still Do Not Believe That Probability Is a Good Basis for AGI

00 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies wrote: The moment relationships of any functional value (associations), and any framework of hierarchy (systems) can be established and tested against all known (domain) knowledge, and even changed if the rules driving such a hierarchy should change (

Re: [agi] I Still Do Not Believe That Probability Is a Good Basis for AGI

on, then else chain reaction. The value on the "correctness" scale would provide the loop-until value . Exit. End. ____ From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies <nano...@live.com> Sent: 12 April 2017 09:29 PM To: a.

Re: [agi] The hard problem of AGI grounding

In the example cited, I think the basic error is that it still is the human being that is making sense of the robot's behavior. The controlled object does not in fact "seek refuge" at all. The program probably measures a certain parameter, which is an illusion of a "battery" and then it

Re: [agi] I Still Do Not Believe That Probability Is a Good Basis for AGI

Some further thoughts on machine consciousness. Having again read through Goertzel's "Consciousness Review", I find his view most enlightening. I would agree with all he stated in there, except for his notion of a Global Brain, which supposes to bridge the view on human consciousness with

Re: [agi] Neuroscience-Inspired AI

eeexplore.ieee.org/document/6889662/ . Ed Porter >> >> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 12:44 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies < >> nano...@live.com> wrote: >> >>> Ben >>> >>> Conceptually, I like where you are going with this. Your team's

Re: [agi] Neuroscience-Inspired AI

Ben Conceptually, I like where you are going with this. Your team's work with human-language-based robotic communication is astounding. I think your idea of a universal attractor has merit. I suppose, in the end, when matter exists, it generates an elcetro-magnetic field. In a genetic sense,

Re: [agi] Re: Is It Feasible to Run a Computation on Compressed Logical Data?

A friend pointed out to me the core of a Grape system is based on learning. This got me thinking about this logical problem you have proposed. How to learn without making it about learning? So, in my laymans language the,I think you could generate a symbolic schema, which would relate back to

Re: [agi] Re: Is It Feasible to Run a Computation on Compressed Logical Data?

ckable in the sense that it could not be understood and hacked into, it still could be hackable in the sense the data could be damaged. Jim Bromer On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies <nano...@live.com<mailto:nano...@live.com>> wrote: A friend pointed

RE: [agi] SAT and Dynamic Programs of Models

Thanks Jim Good thoughts you shared. Stuff to definitely think about. I think, at a certain quantum level, undecidability may even be a constant. The formula for Satisfiability would perhaps then have to adapt, and failing which, would be deemed unsatisfiable. It might be more a problem of

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

@ Matt Does a coma patient, which evidently responds to a familiar presence denote a state of sub consciousness, unconsciousness, consciousness, or other awareness? If consciousness, then why no apparent recall? Isn't consciousness then not more a being state of awareness? Date: Wed,

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

@ Logan Your point on diversity is well taken. We are debating using words, so semantics should be incorporated accordingly. I think any debate about intelligence, on an AGI forum, is quite relevant. However, your post seemingly raised the question whether mutation should be regarded the

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

) Processor costs Would you concur with this analysis? Rob Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:07:56 -0500 From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] Couple thoughts On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 08:21:28AM +0200, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI wrote: @ Logan Your

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

@ Aaron To my mind, thought, as distinct from reasoning, but as creative thought, relates to imagination and the spiritual connection Ben often speaks about. Perhaps then, thought is not learning so much, but more as a spark of sorts, preceding the formulation into a learning construct. Rob

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

the incorporation of the outcomes of the simulation into the model constitutes one method of learning. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI a...@listbox.com wrote: @ Aaron To my mind, thought, as distinct from reasoning, but as creative thought, relates

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

than this quasimagical explain-it-later effect? I honestly don't see the connection, nor the need. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI a...@listbox.com wrote: @ Aaron The total thought I shared is a holistic, quantum thought. Therefore, unless

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

Are Gell-Mann's intermediate AIC and Deric's criticality proper similar to C. Alexander's The void? Could this be the dynamically undecidable zone, which quantum entanglement might be associated with? Is it computable? According to classical logic and classical science, it should not be

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

faith in their interpretations, but simply treat them as possibilities to be considered. Consequently, this is not a belief system, but an attempt at understanding which is acknowledged as incomplete and quite possibly not the right answer. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:31 AM, Nanograte Knowledge

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

:42:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [agi] Couple thoughts From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI a...@listbox.com wrote: @ Matt Does a coma patient, which evidently responds to a familiar presence denote a state

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

@ Russ Exciting! Thanks for this contribution. The diagram maps closely to what Gell-Mann (1994) describes as, and diagrammatically represents to be, Large Effective Complexity and Intermediate AIC (Algorithmic Information Content). The state of largest, effective complexity matches very

RE: [agi] Daydreaming...

Hi PM This is a very interesting question. I have never thought of it before, but I'll try and share my thoughts only. I think, first it has to depend on the likely cause of the daydream, for example, is it a result of a state of autism, an absence seizure perhaps, an image that emerged from

RE: [agi] AI Protest in Texas

If I may say something pelase? To my understanding, Google would and Elon Musk would. However, AI is not the real threat. In my most-humble opinion, it is the key to the solution to a real threat. The technology would still be developed, regardless, and is probably being hastened as we speak.

RE: [agi] Knowm - Machine Learning Coprocessor

PM Thanks for the headsup. I'd appreciate a link to a logical system's model of the whole ontology. How does it handle mutation (in the narrowest sense) as an adaptive construct? From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi] Knowm - Machine Learning Coprocessor Date: Sun,

RE: [agi] Knowm - Machine Learning Coprocessor

Here is an example of a generic ontology, which is quantum ready and supports 1-step mutation. It could be flavoured for AGI purposes via content. From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi] Knowm - Machine Learning Coprocessor Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 22:31:38 +0200

RE: [agi] Knowm - Machine Learning Coprocessor

Seems there is a semantic difference here with Cyc's OWL. They do have an ontology, but what they publish is more of an ontological taxonomy, or the classification sub-component of a general, ontological component referring to Convention. This implies that somewhere, there must be a whole

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

” since it’s not transmitting data by entanglement or other means it’s using quantum encryption (QKD). So some of it is hype. John From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:30 AM To: AGI Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts @John

RE: [agi] Knowm - Machine Learning Coprocessor

Just for the record, please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Rob Benjamin. I live in Cape Town, South Africa. I have been an independent researcher and developer of a fractal-based methodology for 17 years. I am self-funded and not affiliated to any institution or company, other than

RE: [agi] Plans vs. Policies

In brief then... The example model by itself is no silver bullet. It is suggested that it be seamlessly integrated with 2, other quantum-based methodologies known to me. Recently-verified research on the potential for the 3 integration has proved successful. Thus, it forms a 3-body approach,

RE: [agi] Knowm - Machine Learning Coprocessor

Domo From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi] Knowm - Machine Learning Coprocessor Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:45:23 -0700 Irrashaimase !! ~PM From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi] Knowm - Machine Learning Coprocessor Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015

RE: [agi] AI Protest in Texas

like the one in Texas can even come about shows the pushback that such statements can attract. Do we really need to be seen as dangerous social pariahs? Steve == On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI a...@listbox.com wrote: If I may say

RE: [agi] SAT and Dynamic Programs of Models

be affected by so many conditions implies that it can be intercepted without the interception being detected.Jim Bromer On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI a...@listbox.com wrote: PS: The Chinese quantum code is hackable. Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 23:51:26 -0400

RE: [agi] SAT and Dynamic Programs of Models

PS: The Chinese quantum code is hackable. Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015 23:51:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [agi] SAT and Dynamic Programs of Models From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Jim, can you describe an algorithm where P = NP would exponentially speed up visual processing? The

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

“quantum network” since it’s not transmitting data by entanglement or other means it’s using quantum encryption (QKD). So some of it is hype. John From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:30 AM To: AGI Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

RE: [agi] Reverse Turing Test

In my view But the Turing Test already has such a test inherent in it, as antithesis. That is the point. Logically, if a human proves that it is a machine, then one proves one's own humanity. If one proves that it isn't, then one proves the same thing. The test always returns a value of 1.

RE: [agi] visual turing test

It does not matter how sophisticated the test is. Until we turn Turing on it's head, the test would still return a value of 1. The notion that a machine = human is outdated. Why try and prove it? Therefore, the machine has become but a catalyst for human development. I still contend that Turing

RE: [agi] visual turing test

and write a poem using the same general purpose algorithm(s). Does this make sense? On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI a...@listbox.com wrote: 65 years on, and we're still trying to prove the unprovable A-B. Turing never suggested a visual test. This proposal

RE: [agi] visual turing test

questions about what is in a picture to check to see if the machine understands. Their motivation is apparently that the visual testing is inadequate. (Maybe I missed something) On 3/12/15, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI a...@listbox.com wrote: It does not matter how sophisticated

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

, or is it? Mindgames! Pooey! Thankfully, I just want to build the machine. That's all. Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 19:35:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [agi] Couple thoughts From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI a...@listbox.com wrote

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

@Mike There is something unhackable, but we'll need to build it first. Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 14:22:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [agi] Couple thoughts From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com I get the feeling there is nothing left unhackable. Even a typewriter, they can plant a effing video

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

@John, Yes, the message may have come from you, but it did not only go to the recipient(s). There are layers of networked and/or lone ranger middlemen hardware and software, which intercept and decode and promote. The technologies for doing so for email and internet is already 15 years old.

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 6:58 PM To: AGI Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts @Mike There is something unhackable, but we'll need to build it first. Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 14:22:08 -0800 Subject: Re: [agi] Couple thoughts From

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

“quantum network” since it’s not transmitting data by entanglement or other means it’s using quantum encryption (QKD). So some of it is hype. John From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:30 AM To: AGI Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

://english.caixin.com/2015-02-06/100782139.html John From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 6:58 PM To: AGI Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts @Mike There is something unhackable, but we'll need to build it first. Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

Good one! Why did the Japanese GRAPE team decide to design their own processors? From a report I read, seemingly exactly this reason, only stated by them as a cost factor. Can't trust the hardware anymore, for it has become the software. Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 12:34:51 -0500 Subject: Re:

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

DNA to see if the DNA Quantum Effect transmits the cymatic changes after the light source is removed. IOW see if continued vibrational changes in the original DNA get transmitted somehow though some sort memory interlink. John From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

if continued vibrational changes in the original DNA get transmitted somehow though some sort memory interlink. John From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:46 PM To: AGI Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts Conceptually, the various

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

Okaay..I seem to have lost control over my webmail account and browser. #statusoffline From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 21:06:47 +0200 Sorry, but on the subject of security: Anyone else in this group experiencing

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

Sorry, but on the subject of security: Anyone else in this group experiencing problems with Baidu? Today, they downloaded and installed unsolicited software on my computer consuming about 600 MB. Had to take major, evasive action to get rid of it, took about 2 hours. Hope it is clean now, but

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:04:27 -0500 -Original Message- From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] To me, the internet's issue would be issues of bandwidth

RE: [agi] Watch Mario Lives! An Adaptive Learning AI Approach for Generating a Living and Conversing Mario Agent on YouTube

Most interesting. Thank you for sharing. Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 01:08:27 -0500 Subject: [agi] Watch Mario Lives! An Adaptive Learning AI Approach for Generating a Living and Conversing Mario Agent on YouTube From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

(QKD). So some of it is hype. John From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:30 AM To: AGI Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts @John Makes for very interesting, reading. Do you think the critical opinions in the article was justified

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

:22:22 -0500 -Original Message- From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] If I understood the first part of your thought correctly; agents could be collaborative-type of quanta forming some kind of generative frequency, relative to the properties

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:23:50 -0500 -Original Message- From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] The 100 billion star problem in computing, I think it is called that, may be a realistic approximation of the scale of the challenge in processing, let

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

-it-later effect? I honestly don't see the connection, nor the need. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI a...@listbox.com wrote: @ Aaron The total thought I shared is a holistic, quantum thought. Therefore, unless the bottom-line question

RE: [agi] Non Conventional Integration of Otherwise Familiar Ideas Can Help You

Thanks Jim A good reminder on subjectivity. The essence then, is that we should maybe have in our thought toolkit the widest and narrowest perspectives we could hold on relativism, and from there emerge a logical approach best suited to a particular problem. Personally, how I understand the

RE: [agi] Multiverse alternative to disambiguation

I think, you're quite correct. But do not reject disambiguity altogether, for it exists as part of the whole, which serves to enlighten us. Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 22:46:16 -0800 Subject: [agi] Multiverse alternative to disambiguation From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Hi all, It

RE: [agi] Multiverse alternative to disambiguation

Thanks for the headsup on RALA and Lakoff. Very interesting. From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi] Multiverse alternative to disambiguation Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:57:03 -0800 Lakoff's synopsis:

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

probably require both? Rob From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi] Couple thoughts Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 06:16:11 -0500 -Original Message- From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] How about we discuss how to build

RE: [agi] Daydreaming...

@ PM Thank you. What you said sounds quite sensible to me. It is an abstract notion, so we may illuminate it as we think it might be. Such topics make for helpful, mental exercises. Who knows what might emerge? Rob From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Subject: RE: [agi]

RE: [agi] Non Conventional Integration of Otherwise Familiar Ideas Can Help You

for the logical approach are well known or they are implied by many of the most commonly used features of the relevant Concepts. Jim Bromer On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:27 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI a...@listbox.com wrote: Thanks Jim A good reminder on subjectivity. The essence

RE: [agi] Couple thoughts

- From: Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI [mailto:a...@listbox.com] If I understood the first part of your thought correctly; agents could be collaborative-type of quanta forming some kind of generative frequency, relative to the properties of the agent form? Well, yes having many

RE: [agi] AI Protest in Texas

By estimates there are more than 2 billion cattle in this world, proving how bullshit is real. As reality dictates then, give each cow and bull a smart phone with a cat(tle) call AGI app on it to help its organic lifestyle and optimize metabolic function for a reduction in the production of

RE: [agi] SAT and Dynamic Programs of Models

and then there is the constant of relative visual perception of general reality? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 22:01:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [agi] SAT and Dynamic Programs of Models From: a...@listbox.com To: a...@listbox.com Matt said: Vision is a pattern recognition problem. You input a picture