Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment

2008-08-24 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Terren Suydam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- On Sat, 8/23/08, Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you can have an AI that has a bootstrapping mechanism that tells it where to look for goal content, tells it to absorb it and embrace it. Yes, but in

Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment

2008-08-24 Thread Terren Suydam
--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean by does not structure? What do you mean by fully or not fully embodied? I've already discussed what I mean by embodiment in a previous post, the one that immediately preceded the post you initially responded to.

[agi] Re: I Made a Mistake

2008-08-24 Thread Jim Bromer
Unfortunately, I didn't make a mistake last November after all.. However, I do believe that a solution is feasible although it's solution may involve something like an advanced multiple-level greatest common divisors theorem. The problem looks to me like it may be related to the problem of a

Re: [agi] I Made a Mistake

2008-08-24 Thread Jim Bromer
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Eric Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stupid fundamentalist troll garbage List box has rules about using abusive language. And technically you could be sued for that as well although I doubt if a case like that could be won. Jim Bromer

Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment

2008-08-24 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Terren Suydam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you read CFAI? At least it dispels the mystique and ridicule of provable Friendliness and shows what kind of things are relevant for its implementation. You don't really want to fill the universe with paperclips,

[agi] How Would You Design a Play Machine?

2008-08-24 Thread Mike Tintner
Just a v. rough, first thought. An essential requirement of an AGI is surely that it must be able to play - so how would you design a play machine - a machine that can play around as a child does? You can rewrite the brief as you choose, but my first thoughts are - it should be able to play

[agi] Re: I Made a Mistake

2008-08-24 Thread Jim Bromer
Intolerance of another person's ideas through intimidation or ridicule is intellectual repression. You won't elevate a discussion by promoting a program anti-intellectual repression. Intolerance of a person for his religious beliefs is a form of intellectual intolerance. There are times when we

Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment

2008-08-24 Thread wannabe
Valentina wrote: Sorry if I'm commenting a little late to this: just read the thread. Here is a question. I assume we all agree that intelligence can be defined as the ability to achieve goals. My question concerns the establishment of those goals. As human beings we move in a world of limitations

Re: Information theoretic approaches to AGI (was Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment)

2008-08-24 Thread Matt Mahoney
Eric Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These have profound impacts on AGI design. First, AIXI is (provably) not computable, which means there is no easy shortcut to AGI. Second, universal intelligence is not computable because it requires testing in an infinite number of environments. Since

Re: Information theoretic approaches to AGI (was Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment)

2008-08-24 Thread John LaMuth
- Original Message - From: Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:46 PM Subject: Re: Information theoretic approaches to AGI (was Re: [agi] The Necessity of Embodiment) I have challenged this list as well as the singularity and SL4 lists