Re: [gentoo-user] Show ebuild date/time in emerge --pretend output

2014-04-12 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/11/2014 4:37 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:30:43 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: One of the things I do to minimize getting bit by newly released buggy ebuilds is to wait a few days after a new update is available before updating... Isn't that what

[gentoo-user] Show ebuild date/time in emerge --pretend output

2014-04-11 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I'm wondering if this is even feasible before I go open a bug/enhancement request for portage for this... One of the things I do to minimize getting bit by newly released buggy ebuilds is to wait a few days after a new update is available before updating... This works well, and

[gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I rarely do this (I know, I should do it periodically at least), so I'd like someone to check these... These are the packages that would be unmerged: dev-python/python-exec selected: 1.1 1.2 protected: none omitted: none perl-core/ExtUtils-Command

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ---p --depclean - check me...

2014-04-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 4/10/2014 7:21 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Everything else in that list is routine except maybe pciutils and gpm. Add them to world manually if you use those apps Thanks Alan/Tom... Hmmm... what is pciutils used for? From a little googling, it seems like it is a tool

Re: [gentoo-user] Script to tar.tgz /etc, works run manually, broken when run from cron

2014-04-01 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/31/2014 10:43 AM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: You need to use the full path to commands in your script or set an environment variable. In my case using full paths to executables was enough. Bingo... thanks Daniel! Now to figure out why one of my remote systems is sending the

[gentoo-user] Script to tar.tgz /etc, works run manually, broken when run from cron

2014-03-31 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, Ok, this is really irritating me... I have a script that simply performs some backups. The commands are like this: # perform tar.tgz backup of /etc tar -czpvf $BKUP_DIR_etc/$BKUP_DateTime-dev-ecat-etc.tgz /etc When I run this script manually, it does what it is supposed to, and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Script to tar.tgz /etc, works run manually, broken when run from cron

2014-03-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/31/2014 7:13 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 07:01:48 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: I have a script that simply performs some backups. The commands are like this: # perform tar.tgz backup of /etc tar -czpvf $BKUP_DIR_etc/$BKUP_DateTime-dev-ecat-etc.tgz /etc When

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - conditional cell formatting - recently modified?

2014-03-31 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/26/2014 9:07 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hello all, I'd like to be able to apply a background color to some cells based on whether or not they were modified within the last x days... Anyone know if this is possible? I have a feeling not, but you never know... Guess

Re: [SOGo] GetOut - fork of the Funambol Outlook connector

2014-03-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/28/2014 7:13 AM, Martin Simovic mar...@netson.sk wrote: Still don’t get it. My understanding is: - Openchange and Outlook Anywhere setup should be used for Outlook 2010 - SOGo built-in ActiveSync for Outlook 2013 - SOGo built-in ActiveSync for Android and iOS devices - IMAP/CalDav/CardDav

[libreoffice-users] Calc - conditional cell formatting - recently modified?

2014-03-26 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, I'd like to be able to apply a background color to some cells based on whether or not they were modified within the last x days... Anyone know if this is possible? I have a feeling not, but you never know... thx -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Document

2014-03-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/24/2014 8:34 PM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I would think that would take away the benefit of a master document. By having the style controlled by one master document, you get consistent formatting throughout. If that could be disabled, you could have different chapters

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/25/2014 8:23 AM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I suppose having options is generally a good thing, but I'd much rather create and change formatting in one master document than have to change and synchronize 20 or 30 subdocuments to make sure they all work together. Is it

Re: [libreoffice-users] Master Documents, Office Suites, and the Underwood

2014-03-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/25/2014 8:51 AM, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I suppose people can still build spreadsheets by inserting numbers into cells and then pulling out their pocket calculators to add up the column of numbers (I've seen my students do that). This is so not even remotely

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/23/2014 12:06 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/03/2014 12:11, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:52:47 -0500 Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: It's my sincere hope that someone's persistence hammered some common sense and email etiquette into

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/21/2014 5:57 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: How does one send email to*THIS* list, without being subscribed in the first place? A bugzilla mailing list is a different matter. I think that is the main and primary point. I loathe lists that allow posts from non subscribers

Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***

2014-03-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/22/2014 5:06 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Helmut Jarausch wrote: Please don't use this list for personal quarrels of any kind! If someone says something you don't like - just ignore it/him. If someone insults you, reply by personal mail only. If someone says something which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2014 5:48 PM, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: Why should Gentoo have a default? Defaults are always a good idea - as long as they are reasonable and rational. ISTM the only good reason is that not having a default would make the documentation a lot more complicated. Documentation,

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/21/2014 7:13 AM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:25:18 -0400 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 3/20/2014 4:14 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Tom - please STOP CC'ing me on these emails. I am on the list and don't need two copies. Use

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Clarification about ODF Extended

2014-03-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2014 5:28 PM, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. It is a worry that 17 out of 24 features are in fact devoted to interoperability with m$. Nope, not a worry at all. Compatibility with the office product that holds the vast majority of the market share is a decent objective.

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2014 4:14 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Tom - please STOP CC'ing me on these emails. I am on the list and don't need two copies. Use 'Reply-To-List' function (or equivalent - or worst case, delete my direct email manually yourself) in your email program.

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/20/2014 4:00 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:53:51 +0400 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: OpenRC is default in Gentoo now, and it is my best hope it will be. Do you have a source that backs up this claim? Are you seriously challenging the FACT

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO compatibility

2014-03-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/16/2014 12:24 PM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: I don't think the OP's original question silly. I think he or she wanted to know if LibréOffice's support for MS Office formats was compatible with those of MS Office's. A reasonable question, in my view. If the question was is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO compatibility

2014-03-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/16/2014 12:07 PM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: Once again: Putting the cart before the horse. LO does not define the standard. OASIS or ISO (depending upon one's perspective, I suppose) defines the standard. LO's responsibility is to faithfully *implement* the standard. As

[libreoffice-users] OT: Windows, sort text file, can I use LibO maybe?

2014-03-17 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I'm working on a little problem that I'd really like to resolve. It doesn't really have anything to do with Libreoffice, other than I thought I might be able to use Calc to do the sort... I have a text file. Each line is one record. I can use the raw windows Sort command to sort the

Re: [libreoffice-users] OT: Windows, sort text file, can I use LibO maybe?

2014-03-17 Thread Tanstaafl
, 17 Mar 2014 14:32:15 -0400 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi all, I'm working on a little problem that I'd really like to resolve. It doesn't really have anything to do with Libreoffice, other than I thought I might be able to use Calc to do the sort... I have a text file. Each line

Re: [libreoffice-users] OT: Windows, sort text file, can I use LibO maybe?

2014-03-17 Thread Tanstaafl
PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi Paul, Actually, I *think* that will work perfectly, thanks! If anyone cares, what this if for is... I use a really cool little free PortableApp called 'RemoteControl' (based on the old 'GenControl' app), that allows me to connect to and remotely

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thunderbird - too many Address Books

2014-03-15 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/14/2014 11:20 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: I found some excellent advice from one of the moderators there. Someone with a very familiar name! http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=39t=366405sid=f6c8f025bc5fff3f5f634d2a9e4b076f [tips hat to tanstaafi]. Just to be clear,

[libreoffice-users] ODF 1.x vs 1.2

2014-03-14 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, Ok, I was wondering about this. How do I tell what version of the ODF standard any of my individual files are? I tried opening a spreadsheet (.ods) and checked File Properties, but nothing in there about the PDF version... Follow-up question would be, how do I convert the old to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc worksheet stalls when opening

2014-03-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/12/2014 11:11 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Also wondering what the memory setting are like Tools - Options - Memory On most machines you can bump al those values right up. the defaults are for very low spec machines. I've always meant to open a bug to add an option to allow

[SOGo] Paying for New Features - please comment in support of bug 2642

2014-03-13 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I would very much like to see Inverse implement this bug. What it is is simply to provide a way for Inverse customers (those who have purchased block hours of support from Inverse) to vote with their pocketbooks for new features (or bug fixes). Details at:

Re: [Rkhunter-users] Trojaned SSHD

2014-03-11 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/11/2014 11:34 AM, Wally wnow...@gmail.com wrote: Warning: Checking for possible rootkit strings[ Warning ]Found string 'aion' in file '/usr/sbin/sshd'. Possible rootkit: Trojaned SSH daemon $ strings sshd | grep aion Vector Permutaion AES for x86_64/SSSE3, Mike Hamburg (Stanford

Re: [Maria-discuss] postfixadmin and mariadb, want to add support for user 'groups'

2014-03-10 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/10/2014 10:38 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: So, I need an SQL schema that allows for the creation of 'Groups', that the email 'accounts' can be made members of, that can then be queried to test if any given email user is a member of any given group. Hopefully that was a

[Maria-discuss] postfixadmin and mariadb, want to add support for user 'groups'

2014-03-09 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, We have a postfixadmin+mariadb sql database we have been using for many, many years (well, only recently migrated from mysql to mariadb, and it was totally transparent, so thanks for that!). This system is rock solid, and we have no desire to change it. We are in the process of

[gentoo-user] World update and dev-lang/python-exec weirdness...

2014-03-08 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, I don't understand this... If I do an emerge -pvuDN world, it tells me I only need to update (among a few other things) ONE version of dev-lang/python-exec: (2.0.1 to -r1). I then tried to selectively update just the kernel, and it complains about python-exec-2.0.1 being masked, so I add

Re: [gentoo-user] World update and dev-lang/python-exec weirdness...

2014-03-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/8/2014 10:12 AM, Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net wrote: * Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org [140308 09:46]: If I do an emerge -pvuDN world, it tells me I only need to update (among a few other things) ONE version of dev-lang/python-exec: (2.0.1 to -r1). I then tried to selectively

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-05 Thread Tanstaafl
/2014 10:37 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Also, you have to manually add it (right-click in the header Customize), I always remove the normal Reply button and add the Smart Reply button. Sometimes you have to actually read emails to grok their content... ;) -- To unsubscribe e

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/4/2014 3:01 PM, Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net wrote: So I had the Reply Lists (or Smart Reply?) button on individual email windows all along (whether showing all headers or not). NO. There is a separate 'Reply List' button. There is a 'Smart Reply' button. Two different buttons.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/4/2014 7:37 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: I'm using Thunderbird latest rev (24.3.0) in PCLOS, and customize only shows the usual reply stuff --reply, reply all, reply list. Are you customizing the MAIN Menu Toolbar (at the very top), or the MAIL HEADER Toolbar (that contains

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/5/2014 11:02 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Again, the 'Smart Reply' button is ONLY available in the HEADER toolbar. And more importantly, can only be ADDED TO the EMail Header Toolbar, NOT the main Menu toolbar up top. If you are trying to drag it to the top one

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/3/2014 9:12 PM, Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net wrote: Tanstaafl, where is the smart reply button? I'm running T-Bird 24.3.0 (latest update for me) and see no such button. I have either Reply or Reply to List, but no smart button and no preference or option for such a button that I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/4/2014 10:37 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 3/3/2014 9:12 PM, Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net wrote: Tanstaafl, where is the smart reply button? I'm running T-Bird 24.3.0 (latest update for me) and see no such button. I have either Reply or Reply to List

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/4/2014 1:51 PM, Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net wrote: I still see no Smart Reply but in the email window itself Like I said... YOU HAVE TO ADD IT. Right-click (CMD-Click on a Mac) in the email Header pane, and click 'Customize'. Then you should be able to drag-remove the plain

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - Button clic saves and sends email

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/2/2014 10:34 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi:) Please use Reply to all when replying to mails from this mailing list. sigh Please do NOT do that blindly. Why? Many reasons, but one of the best examples can be found here:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - how to move (drag-n-drop using mouse) or cut/insert rows/columns

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
Tom - please STOP blindly clicking Reply All on every single message - and see my next reply about your stupid advice to everyone else to do the same stupid thing.. I do NOT need to see your messages TWICE - I'm on the list, dammit. On 3/2/2014 4:08 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

[libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/2/2014 1:53 PM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: In fact: Because some people, for some reason, feel the need to set Reply-to to their own email address: I've a procmail rule that resets those to the mailing list. That is rude and arrogant and you should *never* do that. Some

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/3/2014 7:56 AM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 07:25:36 -0500 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 3/2/2014 1:53 PM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: In fact: Because some people, for some reason, feel the need to set Reply-to to their own

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/3/2014 9:58 AM, Jim Seymour jseym...@linxnet.com wrote: On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 09:46:06 -0500 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: [snip] If you cannot see the difference then I guess we have nothing more to discuss, because I don't (try to) discuss things with stupid people. [snip

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reply-To?

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
I'm not Jim, but probably know far more than he does about Thunderbird. On 3/3/2014 3:14 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it wrote: dear jim, I'm using thunderbird, and I have the same problem, if I press ctrlR the reply is to the sender non to the list, and I would like to reply to

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/3/2014 7:30 AM, Fred Wilson fredw...@mail.ru wrote: Please look at what technical superiority of systemd consists of and then tell us if an ordinary user needs it. What systemd brings is something usefull only for companies that has money to pay for high-end servers, clusters,

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 3/3/2014 7:28 AM, Fred Wilson fredw...@mail.ru wrote: I really don't see how 10 seconds or a minute more can hurt anyone. If you reboot more often, then it's different. But boot time is minor issue. My understanding about the fast boot times argument is that it was driven by Redhat and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - how to move (drag-n-drop using mouse) or cut/insert rows/columns

2014-03-02 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/28/2014 9:37 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi:) I just tried out the various options (Ctrl, Alt, Shift combos) in Excel 2010 and there really doesn't seem to be a way of dragging a column into a new position. It seems you have to cut or copy first. Glad you were wrong - being

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - how to move (drag-n-drop using mouse) or cut/insert rows/columns

2014-02-28 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/27/2014 3:44 PM, Mark Bourne libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: On 2/27/2014 1:25 PM, Tim Deaton t...@timdeaton.org wrote: Some time ago I created bug 39936 asking asking for an enhancement that would work the way Excel does. Maybe some more encouragement

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/27/2014 12:24 PM, Dan Johansson d...@dmj.nu wrote: On 26.02.2014 22:24, Poison BL. wrote: When I search FHANDLE in menuconfig I get: │ Symbol: FHANDLE [=y] │ Type : boolean │ Prompt: open by fhandle syscalls │ Location: │ (1) - General setup │ Defined at

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/27/2014 2:59 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 27/02/14 21:49, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 27/02/14 19:24, Dan Johansson wrote: On 26.02.2014 22:24, Poison BL. wrote: When I search FHANDLE in menuconfig I get: │ Symbol: FHANDLE [=y] │ Type : boolean │ Prompt:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - how to move (drag-n-drop using mouse) or cut/insert rows/columns

2014-02-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/26/2014 9:40 AM, Dries Feys dries.f...@tvh.com wrote: I select the part of the spreadsheet I want to move. Then I click in the middle of that area and drag the selection to the new position. I hope my brief explanation is clear enough. I know you can drag-n-drop cells. But you only have

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc - how to move (drag-n-drop using mouse) or cut/insert rows/columns

2014-02-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/26/2014 10:00 AM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Tanstaafl wrote In Calc it takes 6: 1. Right-click a row/column header, 2. Click CUT, 3. Right-click the row/column header above/to-the-right-of the row/column you want the one you CUT to go, 4. Click 'Paste Special', 5. Change

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc - how to move (drag-n-drop using mouse) or cut/insert rows/columns

2014-02-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/26/2014 2:05 PM, Mark Bourne libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Although not particularly obvious, all these options are documented in the help - from the index, look up moving cells by drag-and-drop. It is, and I even found that once, but it doesn't mention rows or columns,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - how to move (drag-n-drop using mouse) or cut/insert rows/columns

2014-02-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/27/2014 1:25 PM, Tim Deaton t...@timdeaton.org wrote: Some time ago I created bug 39936 asking asking for an enhancement that would work the way Excel does. Maybe some more encouragement on that issue might move it up in terms of priority. Did you miss my request for anyone who knows how

Re: [SOGo] Reply All to a message in the Sent folder

2014-02-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/25/2014 7:23 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2014-02-24 8:19 PM, Laz C. Peterson l...@paravis.net wrote: It would be great to see a feature similar to Apple’s Mail application, where clicking “Reply All” to a message sent by the user actually opens up a new email

[gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Tanstaafl
Hello all, This is for those of use who to choose to roll our kernels by hand... So, am I missing something? Given the most recent gentoo news item: # eselect news read 10 2014-02-25-udev-upgrade Title Upgrade to =sys-fs/udev-210 AuthorSamuli

Re: [gentoo-user] Peeve - finding kernel config options

2014-02-26 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2/26/2014 3:05 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Run make menuconfig Press / Type FHANDLE Then you can see it is enabled by switching on systemd support in the Gentoo specific options. I did say that I know how to search - that is how I was able to find it. But... I don't

Gentoo+Gnome requires systemd, but Gnome itself does not? Why? - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-25 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-24 4:48 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: In Gentoo you need systemd, but that's a decision from the Gentoo maintainers. They do the job, they make the choices. Interesting. Now I have to spin off a new thread as to why this decision was made if it isn't forced by

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

2014-02-24 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-24 1:10 PM, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: You are unaware of the numbers of m$ fans that pollute this list demanding that the priority of LO is not to produce high quality native odf output, Never ever seen anyone say anything like that... but instead to produce perfect m$

Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances ..... Help me understand this emerge error, please.

2014-02-23 Thread Tanstaafl
Mick, You do realize that blind bottom posting is far WORSE than blind top-posting (done here intentionally to make a point), don't you? Please trim your posts. On 2014-02-22 6:32 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 22 Feb 2014 22:06:15 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 22/02/2014

Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances ..... Help me understand this emerge error, please.

2014-02-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-23 12:42 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 23 Feb 2014 17:25:18 Tanstaafl wrote: You do realize that blind bottom posting is far WORSE than blind top-posting (done here intentionally to make a point), don't you? Please trim your posts. Sorry for this, I wasn't

Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm bug 75376

2014-02-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-22 6:25 PM, upscope upsc...@nwi.net wrote: On Saturday, February 22, 2014 07:45:34 PM M Henri Day wrote: 2014-02-22 19:23 GMT+01:00 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org: Would someone please confirm this bug for 4.2.1.1 I just opened? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id

Re: [libreoffice-users] HOW CAN I CONVERT A NUMBER IN LibreOffice CALC TO TEXT IN LibreOffice CALC?

2014-02-23 Thread Tanstaafl
Tom, please do NOT CC me directly, I am on the list and certainly don't need to see your messages twice. On 2014-02-22 7:01 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: As the User Support mailing list for a gateway project i think it's fairly good that we help people to learn that there are

Re: [libreoffice-users] HOW CAN I CONVERT A NUMBER IN LibreOffice CALC TO TEXT IN LibreOffice CALC?

2014-02-23 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-23 10:40 AM, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: I don't use an email client, but the Gmail web interface also hides lines from previous posts. Lol! Thanks for the laugh Johnny... In case you are wondering, the funny bit is how quickly you disproved your very first

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: EFI-based bootloader for BIOS-based computers (?)

2014-02-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-22 8:00 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, has anyone tried hackintosh in a VM? I am thinking of using AppleMac's Mail program, when I can no longer run the legacy kmail application. A bit drastic to have to load a whole VM just for mail, but I can't find another client

Re: Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-21 4:58 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:32:07 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, so, since it really is so simple, wouldn't it be easier to implement this as an eselect module then, as opposed to creating a bunch of separate profiles? profiles handle

[libreoffice-users] Please confirm bug 75376

2014-02-22 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi everyone, Would someone please confirm this bug for 4.2.1.1 I just opened? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75376 Sample document exhibiting the problem is attached to the bug. Thanks, Charles -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm bug 75376

2014-02-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-22 1:33 PM, Don C. Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote: Hi Charles The attachment displayed fine for me in 4.2.1.1 from The Document Foundation running in Ubuntu 13.10. Guess I should have been clear. I'm on Windows 7, 64 bit... Henri? What OS are you running? Thx guys... -- To

Re: [libreoffice-users] HOW CAN I CONVERT A NUMBER IN LibreOffice CALC TO TEXT IN LibreOffice CALC?

2014-02-22 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-22 4:28 PM, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm subscribed to a few groups myself, maybe I confused this one with the Apache OpenOffice one, but most of them seems to prefer everything but top posting. Personally I prefer this way, I'm not sure what to call it, but I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-20 9:39 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote: Indeed, Greg doesn't work for Red Hat. Prior to working for LF, however, he worked for Novell, another for-profit Linux company. Good god, is that the best you can do? What is your aversion to 'profit', anyway? You do realize

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-21 8:34 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote: On 02/21/2014 07:24 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-02-20 9:39 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote: Indeed, Greg doesn't work for Red Hat. Prior to working for LF, however, he worked for Novell, another for-profit Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-20 7:08 PM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote: By striking the weakest part of the stack (sysv probably*did* need a good replacement, but not one as ambitious as systemd) and digging down into the kernel level (kdbus), Red Hat devs will now have a very influential role in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-20 8:03 PM, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote: Fsacundo impolitely omitted attribution, so I have to add it back... I said: That is such total FUD I just can't even say anything else about it without using some unsavory words. You no need to be disrespectfull... How was

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-20 10:36 PM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Sorry, Canek, no offense was intended, but if you go back and re-read your 'extremely overly enthusiastic' post (this plus the content is why I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote: If you think all profit is the same, then we are talking on two different wavelengths. I didn't say that. I said that *everyone* operates under the profit motive.

Providing a path for systemd on gentoo - 'profiles', or 'eselect module'? - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-20 4:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate profile may just be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like, for example, using eselect... Something like

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-21 9:28 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: It is one thing entirely to say you don't like some software, and another thing entirely to obligate everyone else in the world to never depend on it. All myself and others have been insisting on is that systemd proponents be

OT: 'profit motive' - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-21 10:28 AM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Feb 2014 09:03:47 -0500 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2014-02-21 8:54 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote: If you think all profit is the same, then we are talking on two different wavelengths. I

Re: OT: 'profit motive' - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-21 11:23 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Even someone who volunteers in the local soup kitchen feeding the homeless is doing so under the profit motive. The things is, the 'profit' involved (may) only involve(s) a 'warm fuzzy good feeling'. If you read my previous words, I

Re: OT: 'profit motive' - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common thing in this world. It can even be intentional, causing no emotional, financial, social or intellectual profit. Maybe you have never met such a person or have never been in

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-21 12:33 PM, thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: On 02/20/2014 08:06 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Thinking about this more, since apparently using a separate profile may just be 'overkill', how about something simpler, like, for example, using eselect... Something like: # eselect

Re: OT: 'profit motive' - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-21 2:35 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Tanstaafl: On 2014-02-21 12:17 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Then you ignore self-destructive behaviour which is a common thing in this world. It can even be intentional, causing no emotional, financial, social

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-19 7:53 PM, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote: This is true, but gentoo is a little unstable to use on production. The system must be on 365 days/year. ¿and when you need to update the system? This will use all the processor and the system will be overloaded. This means users

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: How about the gentoo server or cluster in production environment?

2014-02-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-20 7:04 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2014-02-19 7:53 PM, Facundo Curti facu.cu...@gmail.com wrote: This is true, but gentoo is a little unstable to use on production. The system must be on 365 days/year. ¿and when you need to update the system? This will use all

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-20 Thread Tanstaafl
. Ridiculous. Forget about Canek's rant... This is about *choice*. Also, I would argue the *opposite of what Canek is saying in this last rant... Tanstaafl, can we please not use terms like rants? I'm just giving my opinion, trying to be respectful and civil to the others participants

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-20 10:55 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: while I agree with most everything you said, your primary point - that it should be the people who *don't* want systemd doing all of the work

[gentoo-user] OT: bootable CD/DVD/USB that can boot any ISO images on the disk?

2014-02-20 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, Does anyone know of any software that can create a bootable CD/DVD or USB stick, that has a customizable menu that will let you boot pretty much any ISO file you copy to the disk and point to with the menu? It seems like I've seen something like this before, but all I can find are

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-19 2:04 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote: For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen as the default. Ridiculous. Forget about Canek's rant... This is about *choice*. Also, I would argue the *opposite of what Canek is saying in this last rant...

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-18 4:05 PM, Sebastian Beßler sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote: First I thought that with systemd I have to use all the things shipped with systemd like journald (which I don't like because I think that a binary file for syslogs is just broken) so I looked into the config files of

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-17 3:17 PM, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: OK, my choice of words was not appropriate. I mean that not every kernel dev is happy that kdbus is in the kernel now. Noted... Also, please don't CC me, I'm on the list...

[gentoo-user] systemd as a Profile - practical or not?

2014-02-18 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, Ok, before I go and open up a bug requesting this... I know there have to be a lot of people on this list who can answer this question... Is making the use of systemd or not based on a selected Profile, as opposed to manually trying to do it via USE flags etc, a practical request,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd as a Profile - practical or not?

2014-02-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-18 11:39 AM, eroen er...@falcon.eroen.eu wrote: On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:24:05 -0500, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi all, Ok, before I go and open up a bug requesting this... I know there have to be a lot of people on this list who can answer this question

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-18 1:14 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Yet again, I respect ones right to use whatever one wants, but I ask to respect mine as

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-18 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-18 1:54 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I'm curious as to the extent of these programs, and to what extent they *truly* require systemd. I don't understand what you mean by the extent

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Tanstaafl
Thanks to all who chimed in... On 2014-02-16 3:27 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] You may have lost it in the link that Volker posted (thanks Volker), but this comment from HaakonKL probably sums it

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

2014-02-17 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-02-17 12:52 PM, Andrew Savchenko birc...@gmail.com wrote: And this is a very, very bad idea. Looks like you don't know matter at all: to begin with kdbus protocol is NOT compatible dbus and special converter daemon will be needed to enable dbus to talk to kdbus. The whole kdbus

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