As of 2024-04-10, I intend to remove automatic vertical centering of
some basic binary operators for MathML. This was never implemented in
other browsers and is not described in any specification.
Bug to remove: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1890531
To understand better, here
TL;DR: I'm glad to announce that some days ago, the conversion of MathML
layout tests to WPT format has been completed. You will now find them in
two places only:
- The upstream WPT repository, for tests shared with other browsers.
- Some internal Gecko-specific tests at
/show_bug.cgi?id=1880928
Le 16/01/2024 à 15:26, Frédéric Wang a écrit :
Summary: Add support for `content-visibility` property
Bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1660384
Specification: https://drafts.csswg.org/css-contain/#content-visibility
Standards Body: CSS WG
Platform coverage: All
on by default:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1874874
On bug 1874874 you can find an overview of the remaining WPT failures
and bugs, but the TL;DR is that the performance bug 1765615 is the only
one that seems serious enough.
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I left "No Signal".
Chromium's CL is
https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/4542243/12
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Thanks. I'll upload a CL for that. BTW, MathML now has a base::Feature flag.
On 24/10/2022 10:05, Yoav Weiss wrote:
I think it makes sense to flip it on now, and turn it off if printing
NG gets reverted.
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Reading [1], I
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[1]
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/process/release_cycle.md
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On 14/10/2022 09:17, Manuel Rego Casasnovas wrote:
On 14/10/2022 07:53, Frédéric Wang wrote:
If I understand correctly [3], it is integrated in M108 (branched
yesterday) and the feature freeze for M109 will be October 27. So we
have two weeks to decide to enable MathML or not (if an issue
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, quotes are not part of MathML Core
and not implemented in other browsers and Firefox's implementation has
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elemetry analysis: N/A ; invalid MathML markup is likely to happen in
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update was more-or-less automatic, great that you detected the issue.
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ml.idl?
This is used in some generic tests for global event handlers e.g.
html/webappapis/scripting/events/event-handler-all-global-events.html
mathml/relations/html5-tree/math-global-event-handlers.tentative.html
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Just to follow-up on two points raised by Daniel:
On 25/06/2022 14:09, Frédéric Wang wrote:
You mentioned fuzzy testing. Do the fuzzing tools have support for
mathml elements? If not, you should probably add a to-do item to
teach them.
MathML has been there for several years so I do expect
2020-09-17. Most of them were
returning 0 count and only two of them were returning 1 count... to
compare with the counter for pages using MathML which was several millions!
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Hello, just to follow-up on this one, that feature will be included in
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/n4zf_3FWmAA since
as explained in the original email, MathML is the main use case.
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hopefully they will both be done by the end of
the year.
On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 4:39 AM Frédéric Wang wrote:
Hi Morten,
Thanks for raising this issue, I forgot to mention it. We
experimented
this in the past and IIRC we found issues with:
- Printing: indeed printing pages
lusterfuzz will find something interesting once
this feature is switched to "stable". :)
By the way, I just tested, and MathML inside legacy layout doesn't seem
to work. I filed
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1338882
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[3] https://frederic-wang.fr/update-on-open-type-math-fonts.html
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As mentioned in the original e-mail, we are planning to remove the
WebTransport over QUIC implementation, and we will not need the
"quic-transport" scheme in the future.
Thanks,
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 12:17 PM Frédéric Wang <mailto:fw...@igalia.com>> wrote:
Patch is under review but has not landed yet.
Le 21/12/202
Patch is under review but has not landed yet.
Le 21/12/2021 à 21:02, 'Joe Medley' via blink-dev a écrit :
Is this in 98?
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Le 25/11/2021 à 11:12, Frédéric Wang a écrit :
Thank you Yoav, Rick and Dominik,
Some random remarks/thoughts:
1. First I believe the risk is probably not to have missing characters
: At the end, we actually always do try "-webkit-standard" internally
as a fallback. Instead
port for
"-webkit-body" are out of the scope of this intent.
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[2] https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/3282157
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On 11/17/21 6:02 AM, Frédéric Wang wrote:
I started to poke through
https://github.com/search?p=5=%22-webkit-standard%22=Code
<https://github.com/search?p=5=%22-webkit-standard%22=Code>
out of curiosity and a few things stand out:
83 showed that an internal use of "-webkit-standard"
allowed to work around a Skia bug 12503. Bug again, I can't explain why
someone would need to do it explicitly...
The @font-face{ font-family:"-webkit-standard"; } in link 3 is also
weird, I'm not sure what's happening when we
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ont expert please correct me if I'm wrong) removing a generic
font family should just affect the choice, not the visibility of the symbol.
Moreover, quoting the initial message of this thread:
Le 13/08/2021 à 14:23, Frédéric Wang a écrit :
- Apple Color Emoji on macOS (and iOS/WebKit)
- Segoe
for developers if this does not work for all
events. But yes, again this is just speculation, not based on any
concrete feedback from developers. I imagine somewhat hitting the
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Web developers:
No signals
Could you gather signals? https://goo.gle/developer-signals
We were not able to find much information from
https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/3487 ; I think Sonia meant to use
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Interoperability and Compatibility
This feature was implemented by Apple in 2011 before the Blink fork
and is still implemented in WebKit. It has never been implemented in
Firefox.
A HTTPArchive search from March 2020 provided 1903
, 2021 at 9:32 AM Frédéric Wang <mailto:fw...@igalia.com>> wrote:
Dominik's request is for
-webkit-monospace, webkit-serif, -webkit-sans-serif,
-webkit-cursive, -webkit-fantasy, -webkit-pictograph,
-webkit-body, -webkit-standard
But this intent to ship is only f
nge that now
includes more response bodies.
+Rick Viscomi <mailto:rvisc...@google.com> - any changes done on the
front of response bodies in the last 18 months?
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 2:58 PM Frédéric Wang <mailto:fw...@igalia.com>> wrote:
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webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156843
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similar to what we did in [3] for "system-ui"?
Thanks,
[1] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65197
[2] https://drafts.csswg.org/css-fonts/#font-family-prop
[3] https://bugs.webkit.org/
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> As of 2020-05-05 I intend to remove the title argument of
> Navigator.registerProtocolHandler. It has been removed from the HTML5
> specification and none of the existing implementation does something
> UI-wise [1].
This change finally land
bug.cgi?id=171934#c73)
web-platform-tests:
This is covered by internal Gecko tests, but I opened
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> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 6:22 AM Frédéric Wang <mailto:fw...@igalia.com>> wrote:
>
> One thing to take into account is that WebKit's repository is big and
> public GitHub/GitLab prevent creating large repository by default.
&
ng their own instance VS relying on proprietary / third-party
instances for this kind of issue or other customizations.
In general, I personally believe it would be good if one only require to
use free software tool to contribute to WebKit. But I guess we already
made an exception by switching to
s://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/55
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(...) will be added too.
Secure contexts: Like all other CSS selectors these are not restricted
to secure contexts.
Is this feature enabled by default in sandboxed iframes?: Yes
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> Hello,
>
> Currently MathML attributes mathvariant, displaystyle and scriptlevel
> [1] [2] are implemented in WebKit using custom "style resolution" and
> "one-glyph rendering" inside the MathML layout code [3] [4]
On 19/09/2020 06:36, Frédéric Wang wrote:
> This is already possible
> with the MathML's displaystyle attribute but exposing the magic to CSS
> provides more flexibility to users.
As an example, consider the continued fraction of test 6 in
https://mdn.mozillademos.org/en-US/doc
these are not restricted
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> Hi,
>
>As of September 24, I intend to disable support for stretching MathML
> operators with the deprecated STIXGeneral fonts on non-mac platform.
> These are very old fonts that have been deprecated by the STIX
> consortium for
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> (Sorry, had this sitting in my drafts).
>
> My concern with the registerProtocolHandler() API is that it complicates an
> already the very complicated area of cust
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Or do you mean you have a patch for WebKit that is pending to land? If
so, what's the bug number?
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thout flag ;
shipped in Chromium since version 81.
Bug to turn on by default:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1623623
This feature was previously discussed in this "Intent to prototype"
thread:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.dev.platform/64nDLTAZGzY/CQMV7WqtCAAJ
quot;no" value but I opened
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208570for the remaining ones.
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something else if that's misleading.
>
> 4. If there's no negative feedback, ship (ports maintainer can
> still disable the feature if they want to).
>
>
> We should probably adopt the same 5 business day policy here.
Right, the proposal says + 1
Hi,
The idea of an "intent to" process has been raised several times in the
past(e.g. in our 2020 goals [1])and some people already use it
informally, but it does not seem that we have any agreement right now.
Such a process would help to coordinate changes internally (between port
maintainers
to consider
here. AFAIK, the proposal does not make the situation worse though. I
can't find any conclusion on the security aspect in the original
intent-to thread, so I guess someone more knowledgeable than me on this
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://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208047
W3C issue: https://github.com/w3c/IntersectionObserver/issues/372
Gecko bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1617154
(intent-to will follow)
Chromium bug:
https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/2003750
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> Hello,
>
> In [1], we will try and make WebKit rely on the width and height HTML
> attributes of the and elements in order to determine their
> aspect ratio, so that it can be used for sizing the image using CSS,
> before the conte
On 10/12/2019 17:52, Frédéric Wang wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Cathie has taken over my work on this. In order to facilitate review,
> we decided to split the patch into three parts. If there is no
> opposition, we'll probably go ahead and land (1) and (2) below. But in
> any case
/H9j3aJ20IgE/fs9Df3loCQAJ
[4]
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e already replied on the Blink
thread. Just to repeat here, I think the concerns Igalia had regarding
the lack of details to implement the algorithm have been addressed in
the latest versions of the spec. We haven't checked again if the WPT
coverage is good enough now though.
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to hear about suggestions to rely on native scroll
animations for other ports. However, this can probably be done in
follow-up patches. Web developers really requested support on iOS and it
seems very important to have (3) for that port.
Thank you,
On 14/11/2018 19:58, Frédéric Wang wrote:
> Hi
On 12/11/2019 20:06, Simon Fraser wrote:
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 4:52 AM, Frédéric Wang wrote:
>>
>> On 09/11/2019 04:02, Ryosuke Niwa wrote:
>>>>>> - Requires us modifying each port's DRT to support this format
>>>>>>
>>>>>
nds big. IIUC you are parsing
the HTML file when running each test? I thought that there is a
MANIFEST.json file which is supposed to cache that information, why
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Hi,
In bug 1587577, I intend to add a deprecation warning and use counter
for the mfenced element. The MathML Refresh CG has agreed it should not
be in core. It is redundant with mrow + mo, its implementation has bugs
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In bug 1587572, I intend to add a deprecation warning and use counter
for the bevelled attribute on the mfrac element. Although the
MathML Refresh CG has not reached a consensus about this yet, it is good
to try to determine how much this attribute is actually used.
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In bug 1587570, I intend to add a deprecation warning and use counter
for the subscriptshift and superscriptshift attributes. Although the
MathML Refresh CG has not reached a consensus yet about this, it is good
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). In
addition maction allows some interactive math. These features are better
implemented in CSS/JS.
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n one side and for mroot
on the other side).
[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1548522
[2] https://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/3
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probably not how developers would do a quick implementation for "normal"
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spec [2].
[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1548530
[2] https://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/30
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On 02/09/2019 22:12, Ryosuke Niwa wrote:
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> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 7:11 AM Frédéric Wang <mailto:fw...@igalia.com>> wrote:
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> Currently MathML attributes mathvariant, displaystyle and
> scriptlevel [1] [2] are implemented in WebKit using custom "style
ps://trac.webkit.org/browser/webkit/trunk/Source/WebCore/rendering/mathml/RenderMathMLToken.cpp#L593
[6]
https://mathml-refresh.github.io/mathml-core/#css-extensions-for-math-layout
[7] https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133845#c5
[8] https://bug-201242-attachments.webkit.org/attachment.cgi?id=
a counter of pages that contained
MathML content rendered by Gecko. This is what we plan to use as
a reference. We haven't decided about the exact threshold yet though.
[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538985
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[3] https://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/127
[4] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553917
[5] e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427990
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[3] https://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/5
[4]
https://trac.webkit.org/browser/webkit/trunk/Source/WebCore/mathml/MathMLElement.cpp#L96
[5] e.g. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1027354
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4751#c2
[6] https://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/23
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" in MathML
Core [4].
[1] https://www.w3.org/TR/MathML3/chapter2.html#fund.units
[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=553917
[3] https://www.w3.org/TR/MathML2/chapter2.html#fund.units
[4] https://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/24
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ence to disable them in Nighly build.
[1] https://www.w3.org/Math/draft-spec/chapter3.html#presm.commatt
[2] https://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/7
[3] https://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/55
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[3] https://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/55
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[3] https://github.com/mathml-refresh/mathml/issues/5
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